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Template:Cycling data KGB

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:07, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No transclusions. Intended use appears to be to link to a team that does not have an article. Created in January 2023. It is possible that this is a valid template and that I simply misunderstand how it is supposed to be used. There are about a dozen of these unused Clycling data templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:53, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete. A template to link to a non-existent page? Seriously, we need to stop with these templates. These are simple links. Gonnym (talk) 08:29, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Then go ahead and change every cycling team link on all pages, making sure to use the correct name depending on the year. Seacactus 13 (talk) 20:38, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You'll be surprised, but that's how every other link works. Gonnym (talk) 22:25, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You'll be surprised at how bad people are at correctly linking to articles using the correct title and characters, especially for cycling teams that change names over time. Unless for some odd reason you don't want to have consistency between articles, these templates are very helpful. Seacactus 13 (talk) 20:29, 6 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For the record, I still support deletion, even after it's been used on a single article. Gonnym (talk) 22:25, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Template:Raw backlog status

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:07, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No transclusions or documentation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:48, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:WikiProject Organized crime/status box

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:06, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused. Replaced by ((WikiProject status)) at the only page where it was likely to have been used, Wikipedia:WikiProject Organized crime. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:48, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:DKP systems

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:06, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused game table. Not used at Dragon kill points. Gonnym (talk) 21:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:NeuroCollabs

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:05, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused and the process has been inactive for over 13 years. Gonnym (talk) 21:42, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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2014 Winter Olympics curling standings templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution and transcluding articles converted to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 17:04, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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2014 Winter Olympics men's curling game reference templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution and transcluding articles converted to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 17:04, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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2014 Winter Olympics women's curling game reference templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution and transcluding articles converted to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 17:04, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:Global warming sidebar

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Climate change sidebar. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Propose merging Template:Global warming sidebar with Template:Climate change sidebar.
Duplication. "Global warming" is also used less frequently than climate change more recently. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 16:49, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If we needed such a side bar then yes, they should be merged and the new name should be climate change sidebar. However, I object to even having such a sidebar at all, see discussion here at WikiPRoject Climate Change talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Climate_change#Do_we_really_need_a_climate_change_sidebar? (in a nutshell, my opinion repeated: as we don't have a "series" of climate change articles, a side bar for a huge topic complex with 4000 articles is not useful; same reason why we also don't have a "Medicine sidebar"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by EMsmile (talk • contribs) 13:15, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Template:Pakistani wedding

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:03, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template is nothing but links to a bunch of sections of a single article. Not what navboxes are for. ★Trekker (talk) 15:51, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:NYCS Platform Layout BMT Jamaica Line/Z express/next

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The result of the discussion was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:34, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused NYCS platform layout templates. Gonnym (talk) 13:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete per nom. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete per nom. Cards84664 19:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Template:Empty section

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The result of the discussion was keep. This template seems to be a case of improper usage getting in the way of usefulness. There is an overwhelming consensus to keep the template but fix the "bad" transclusions such as those indicated by the nominator (e.g. 14-year-old empty sections). There is no prejudice against renomination in the (near?) future if such old/improper uses are cleared out and someone still finds this template to be problematic. Primefac (talk) 17:45, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's been 10 years since the previous TfD and our approach to building articles as works in progress has changed a lot in that time, with heavier use of draft space for that purpose, so I think we should revisit whether or not this template is necessary.

I propose we delete this template along with all 30,000 odd sections it's used in. There is no reason for articles in mainspace to have "empty sections" which are just a heading - they should be removed and should not be encouraged. Some of these sections have been empty for as long as 14 years. This is an artefact of the earlier days of Wikipedia when work in progress articles were created directly in mainspace, rather than in draft space, and should be deprecated for further use.

If we are to keep this to fix the outstanding backlog, then IMO we at least need to a) discourage further use of this template and b) make it easier for us to start doing that. The cleanup categories are pretty useless as they aren't sorted by topic (which I'm aware is a broader issue)

The only argument I can see for keeping this is on articles which have highly consistent formats, like year articles (with headings for births and deaths), but still there's no reason every such article has to have the exact same set of headings, especially if there's no sourceable content to put under some of them. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 12:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As an ATD, we could merge this with ((expand section)) and remove empty sections containing the template redirect. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 12:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DePiep (talk) 13:43, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Re Siddharthist, and 9/10 of the Opposing !votes below: this completely ignores the fact that an unknown number of ((Empty section)) placements is not based on this presumption. There is no reasion to assume placement occurred for such a good reason. (See also my comment below) -DePiep (talk) 16:27, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
oppose the template is useful for those who are expanding articles to plan out the sections prior to writing new information NotOrrio (talk) 22:10, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Strong Oppose/Strong Keep The elimination of many empty sections erases any awareness of the existence of omitted information. Empty sections are useful for bookmarking major/key areas that are missing from articles in need of expansion. This template is useful in marking empty sections in need of content. SecretName101 (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Strong Keep Hard agree with SecretName101. The template is very useful for the development of articles; it can indicate where editors should add content. Timothytyy (talk) 00:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Although I oppose (above) there is a qualitative difference between the "development placeholder" usage and the "as long as 14 years" statistic. Is there an argument for removing entire sections if they have been flagged for, I don't know what number to stab at, 3 years? David Brooks (talk) 02:04, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Agree. At some point it's just clutter and not useful. Hidden message or talk page message would be more helpful and amateurish. Gonnym (talk) 08:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose per above. Very useful when beginning to completely rebuild an entire article. HoHo3143 (talk) 09:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment- Many people use the template for the intended purpose. The correct course of action for places where this template is missused is to remove the template from the article, the incorrect course of action is to delete the template all together NotOrrio (talk) 05:21, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... and then remove the section title. DePiep (talk) 06:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Came upon this AfD after leaving the template in East Dulwich#Local government elections which does have a ((see also)) link but no other material. Wasn't 100% certain if that's the right template to use but I don't know of/didn't find any other options. At the very least, I don't think deleting every empty section is necessarily the best most because I'd imagine there are more examples like this.
However, I'm also opposed to deletion. I don't think the claim that WP is no longer tolerant of its work-in-progress nature is mistaken. I've seen so many bare articles made in mainspace in my time and I've only been editing for six years. Personally I think draftspace is underutilized, but I don't have the power to convey that to every editor I encounter, let alone convince them. And in that case, the utility of this template is still apparent to me. QuietHere (talk) 23:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Template:Periodic table (noble gases)/doc

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 13:42, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Periodic table (noble gases) uses a different doc page. Gonnym (talk) 10:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete, unused. (btw Gonnym, why not asked a speedy in some useful talkpage?) -DePiep (talk) 10:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Template:Periodic table (halogens)/doc

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 13:40, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Periodic table (halogens) uses a different doc page. Gonnym (talk) 10:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete, unused. (btw Gonnym, why not asked a speedy in some useful talkpage?) -DePiep (talk) 10:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Template:On-former browse

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:39, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused. Seems Template:ON former is the one being used. Gonnym (talk) 10:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:NOC in 2009 Asian Youth Para Games

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:38, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused since none of the countries have links. Gonnym (talk) 10:03, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:Large/TemplateData

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:38, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused since the TemplateData is on the /doc page. Gonnym (talk) 09:58, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:Interim Cabinet of Fiji

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:40, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unclear what article this should be used on, but if found, this should be subst there instead of transcluded. Gonnym (talk) 09:53, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:Infraspeciesbox/italic check

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:37, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused and marked as replaced. Gonnym (talk) 09:49, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:Infobox station/Header OASA/icon

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:37, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No longer used in Template:Infobox station/Header OASA. Gonnym (talk) 09:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:S-line/DB-ICE left/13

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:37, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused s-line templates. Gonnym (talk) 09:43, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:2017 Atlantic hurricane season ACE

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:44, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused template. If it should be used at 2017 Atlantic hurricane season or another place, it should be subst there instead of transcluded. Gonnym (talk) 09:42, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:WP LoCE

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:31, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Similar temlate to Template:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors which is used in the body of an article (which breaks the WP:Reply tool). There should be one consistent style used. Usages of this template should be converted to ((WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors)). Gonnym (talk) 07:26, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:LOCEcomplete

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:31, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Templates were deprecated over 8 years ago. Template:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors should be used instead. Gonnym (talk) 07:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:LOCEproof

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:31, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This template was tagged as deprecated over 8 years ago with the note that Template:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors should be used instead. Note that the template is currently placed in the body of talk pages instead of at the header like the newer template. This also causes the WP:Reply tool to break as it thinks it's a regular comment you can reply to. Gonnym (talk) 07:13, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:Persecution with skin color

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:26, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(1) The name sounds strange. What is "persecution with" supposed to mean ? I'd expect something like "persecution based on". (2) To me it makes little sense to create a grouping which includes non-ethnic forms of discrimination (like that against albinos), but excludes ethnic discrimination if the victims happen to have the same kind of skin (like Antisemitism or the Rwandan genocide). There doesn't seem to be scholarly sources that use such a grouping. Rsk6400 (talk) 10:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep. Moving the title to "Template:Skin color and persecution" may improve the question raised on having "with" in the current title. Considering skin color is one of the markers and motivations for persecution, the template provides information on various related factors and existence among classes, cultural, geographical, religious, and institutional spaces. There is no antisemitism in the Template except the examples included related to the case of Ethiopian Jews who are black and Semitic themselves and other similar groups in Israel. For the case of Tutsi versus Hutu, here is what the Montreal Holocaust museum specified on the aspect of skin color Based on measurements such as height, the shape of the nose, and skin color, colonial authorities designated Tutsi as superior to Hutu. Petra0922 (talk) 14:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 05:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tagging Jarble since the editor already suggested merging this and the ((Racism topics)). Petra0922 (talk) 02:37, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Template:PI featured article

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused and this sort of thing is now clearly against consensus. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:14, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:PPASAC-instructions

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This was used in one place: Portal:Punjab/Selected article candidates. I BLARed that page since it had no activity or content whatsoever, so now this is unused. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:14, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:Featured portal log

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:22, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template no longer needed now that Wikipedia:Featured portals is defunct. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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