Isaguge (talk) 21:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
To not merge, given that the dishes and cultural factors are sufficiently different that separate coverage is of benefit to readers. Klbrain (talk) 14:57, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I propose merging Feijoada (à brasileira) into Feijoada. The articles cover the same topic, some of this newly translated content would improve the existing primary topic. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 10:09, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not actually sure they're the same topic. Valereee (talk) 16:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What makes you uncertain? Mooonswimmer 17:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Feijoada à brasileira is a sub-type and the current article is quite poor 2A04:EE41:3:D360:EC48:B642:E43B:FCC7 (talk) 20:32, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. There are several versions of feijoada. I think that by not merging the articles we give undue weight to the one in the main article "Feijoada" by turning it into the primary topic, which is not fair. All of them can be talked about in a single article. Torimem (talk) 20:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 27 February 2024[edit]

– Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC Brazilian feijoada is the national dish of a country with a population of over 214 million people; Portuguese feijoada is but a dish among dishes prepared in a country with a population of about 10 million people. إيان (talk) 16:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 14:26, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also frankly quite appalled by attempted reasoning based on population size. Large countries are not "more important" than small countries on Wikipedia. That is a terrible bias. Walrasiad (talk) 09:55, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Feijoada page is not about Portuguese Feijoada at all!
Why don't you read the article, not just the introduction that doesn't match the article body, and see if that actually checks out.
According to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC:
A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term.
Large countries are not 'more important' than small countries on Wikipedia. What's this? Nobody said so. The discussion is about feijoada, not countries. If we think logically, the status of one dish as the national dish of a country with a population that dwarfs the population of the country for the second dish, which has no national cultural status, it's going to generate *substantially* more usage for the first. And this is reflected in the Google Trends stats cited above. إيان (talk) 02:32, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I read the article. There's only one sentence on Portuguese feijoada. The rest is about origins and dissemination in the Portuguese-speaking countries, including pictures of the various dishes from other parts of the world (including Brazil, Timor, etc.). It is a dish of Portuguese origin, which is why there are many variations in former Portuguese colonies. But this is not an article about the Portuguese dish itself. It is a parent article for all feijoadas. The Brazilian section was originally here, and spun off into a separate article recently to give more details. That's all.
"Usage" refers to usage in English-language sources. Country population has nothing to do with that. Walrasiad (talk) 18:51, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's your "usage in English-language sources". Obvious primary topic. إيان (talk) 00:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, here's an ngram Not sure what you think you're showing. "Portuguese feijoada" is not a term that's used. It is referred to simply as "feijoada". Just as the Brazilian dish is also commonly called simply "feijoada". And the Angolan dish is "feijoada". And the Mozambican dish is "feijoada". And the Goese dish is "feijoada". And the Timorese dish is "feijoada". They're all just varieties of a dish of Portuguese origin.
This is not an article on a particular sub-variety, this is the parent article covering all varieties. A child article should not supersede the parent article. Have you even read this article at all? Walrasiad (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd agree with that. Certainly in its current state. Walrasiad (talk) 19:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please see above the merge discussion closed 6 days ago. إيان (talk) 00:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given how confused this RM is, it is a probably a good indicator it should be merged. Walrasiad (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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