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This mass edit warring should stop, anything furher on should be discussed here, one editor even breached 3RR.(KIENGIR (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2020 (UTC))
Yes totally agreed; this insanity needs to stop. The problem started when some users started to place Turkey and Kazakhstan in the area of "considered Asian countries". Turkey is a member of SEVERAL European organizations, the most important of which is the Council of Europe. Whereas Kazakhstan isn't a member of a single European organization and its history, culture is heavily tied to Central Asia. The two are simply incomparable in terms of Euoropeannes. Sweetkind5 (talk) 20:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Almost all sources regard Kazakhstan an Asian country, despite a tiny bit of its area in northwest being in Europe. Sweetkind5 (talk) 20:46, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
I, honestly, don't care to take part in this discussion, since the only that's talked about here is pure antiTUrkish propaganda with no basis in reality. Until that changes, don't expect me to stop my war on propaganda edits. Sweetkind5 (talk) 23:51, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Being European has nothing to do with language or history (as in "But the Turks only came here in 1494 and they are invaders!"). This is not how you evaluate a country's Europeannes. You instead look at their current geopolitical stance. Turkey is a transcontinental country, just like Russia. And JUST like Russia, it is a member of sevral European organizations and even went as far as applying for EU membership, which even Russia didn't do. Clearly, it is considered a European country by many countries, otherwise none of it would be possible for Turkey. So I hope you all now have and understanding of why we can't include Turkey in the Asian list. Sweetkind5 (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
If I see anymore comments of "but Turkey is simply not a European country! Why? I donno, it just isn't! The turks are invaders! They only came here in 15th century! F*** the Turks!", I will simply not take part in this discussion. Period. Sweetkind5 (talk) 00:08, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
The same aforementioned reasons were used to include Armenia and Cyprus in the European list, even though they are completely located in Western Asia. So, the same will be true for Turkey. Sweetkind5 (talk) 00:13, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Just a thought, why don't we not engage in speculative takes on weather something is more "Asian" or more "European" on this article. Turkey for instance as aforementioned is apart of countless European orginaztions, is covered by news organizations like the BBC as a European nation, but is geographically almost entirely in Asia. Sometimes a country is complicated geopolically, culturally, lingustically, historically, etc - but why do we need fight over something that could just be omitted. My understanding is that an editor does not want a transcontinental nation to be labeled strictly "Asian" on this country list page, then couldn't we just state its a transcontinental nation and move on? And also just to state this clearly - opinions are not meant to be on wikipedia and neither are ad hominem attacks.QeeGeeBee (talk) 05:37, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
With respect, QeeGeeBee. First of all, you mentioned that Turkey "is almost entirely in Asia". While it is true that geographically only a little over 3 percent of its area is in Europe, it needs to be taken into account that around 20 percent of its population actually live in that European area. Now, regarding your question. It is already mentioned in the article that Turkey, along with Georgia, Kazakhstan,Russia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan, are transcontinential countries. However, politically and culturally countries cannot be affiliated with "transcontinentialism". It has to be mentioned with which continent those countries are often affiliated. Sweetkind5 (talk) 11:21, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
I restored the sentence to the previous status quo, pending outcome of this discussion and a consensus about what statement to make, if any, about Kazakhstan. I would suggest that a statement that any particular transcontinental country is "generally associated with" Europe or Asia is likely to be too simplistic and vague to be verifiable in the reliable sources on the subject. If there is to be a statement, I'd also suggest it not be done by hijacking an existing sentence about Russia, though in any case, I also removed that sentence, see below. --IamNotU (talk) 16:38, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Scotland and Wales are class both classed as countries, they have their own national parliaments but are not sovereign and so should be included under a heading such as "Non-sovereign devolved countries" or something similar. Looking to attain consensus for this or an alternative suggestion. Thanks!Titus Gold (talk) 21:04, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Cyprus and Armenia are not geographically located in Europe. They are only associated with Europe, and thus should be removed from the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A44E:FA4A:0:70B8:89BD:B14C:13B1 (talk) 01:06, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
like other continents have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Africa_(orthographic_projection).svg 177.86.22.177 (talk) 21:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)