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This page seems to have taken the content from Tollywood. Don't quite seem to understand the reason! Maybe the admin/mods can do something Mspraveen 12:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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According to the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) figures, the following data for the top three Film Industries in India is as in the table below
Year | Hindi Movies | Telugu Movies | Tamil Movies | 1st Position |
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2005 | 248 | 268 | 136 | Telugu |
2006 | 223 | 245 | 162 | Telugu |
2007 | 257 | 241 | 149 | Hindi |
2008 | 286 | 175 | Telugu | |
2009 | 235 | 218 | 190 | Hindi |
2010 | 215 | 181 | 202 | Hindi |
2011 | 206 | 192 | 185 | Hindi |
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I removed a lot of stuff claiming the Guinness records. They must be cited using the Guinness site as reference. But here except for the film studios no fact was cited using that. --Commander (Ping Me) 15:12, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
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The Andhra Pradesh Film Chamber has decided to crack down on dubbed films in the state. The Chamber has passed a few resolutions and the most important among them is the ban on dubbed films during festivals. Another key resolution is the increase in surcharge from 20% to 50% on dubbed films.Could anyone mention it with proper reference in article.14.96.81.197 (talk) 09:46, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
I think you can provide this info with published source, If i found out one I will include, thankz Nandhakishore (talk) 13:18, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
The whole dubbed films section is biased. This article is using words like Overtaking and Dominated, in violation of Wikipedia's Neutral point of view There is no need to mention the dubbed film information and it should seriously be considered removing of the whole section, expecially because it is in such a biased tone.
The film Enthiran is mentioned to have grossed 60 crore and the authenticity of the source provided is dubious, moreover there are several sources which mention that Enthiran grossed only 30 Crore, see below:
http://cinemitra.com/endhiran-the-robot-breaks-all-box-office-records
http://www.teluguone.com/tmdb/news/Tollywood-Top-5-Films-Collections-en-15128c1.html
12pavan34 (talk) 09:19, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Usage of the word regularly in the first sentence is in violation of Wikipedia's Neutral point of view .
The whole section needs to be deleted from the article.
12pavan34 (talk) 23:48, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
This section is a POV-section and should be deleted.
Sonofrichard (talk) 02:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Please note that using terms like dominate, overtaking, regularly are in violation of Wikipedia's Neutral point of view RTPking (talk) 01:05, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Please initiate Afd if you feel the necessity RTPking (talk) 20:52, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
I cannot understand why do you have this anti Telugu feeling and pro-tamil attitude, it is clear that Telugu Cinema is larger than Tamil, which you claim as second in country and the edit you gave is not done by me it si done by some User:Sreekar akkineni why are you saying I did it ?? It is so clear someone else edited it, It is very dissappointing that editors like you are not blocked and allowed to do all the false editing on wikipedia. You are writing on the talk page some stuff which does not make sense.
Tollywood has produced more films than Bollywood a few times in the past but Bollywood has been consistently producing more films than Telugu cinema lot more times hence Tollywood is second and bollywood is first, please dont argue for the sake of arguing, You are scared of initiating AFD as you also know that Tollywood is greater than Kollywood(tamil) and second in the country, I request you not to vandalise the article like this and hide the truth, You are driving you point of view as truth which is very wrong. RTPking (talk) 23:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
User:Vensatry I dare you to initiate an RFC for both second largest film industry and dubbing films issue, we can speak of facts over there. It is painful to see your vandalism not being noticed by Administrators, an established user like you indulging in exclusive POV edits is a very poor choice to make. RTPking (talk) 23:28, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
User:Vensatry Why are you not replying and talking something else? I want you to initiate an RFC and the truth shall prevail. Are you worried that the truth shall come out ? RTPking (talk) 06:52, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
The question was your nuetrality and your answer was a question posed about mine, and that does not prove your nuetrality. You are missing simple logic here. RTPking (talk) 06:56, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
User:Vensatry It is really worrying and dissappointing how you use your experience to manipulate the truth, I hope some administrator some day realizes this and takes the right action. RTPking (talk) 07:00, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
ragupathi venkataratnam naidu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.134.119.164 (talk) 10:58, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
I have checked every line, unable to see any problems with lay out and grammar, no redundancy also, kindly check it once again Nandhakishore (talk) 19:48, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
I added information stating Telugu industry is second largest and I added the following citations:
173.39.121.43 (talk) 06:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Adding to the above sources which Say Telugu Film industry is Second largest in India:
RTPking (talk) 07:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
The Telugu Films have much more fan base than Tamil films overseas, It is not true to say Tamil has more than Telugu. As an example I am I am posting information of the film Dookudu As of 2012, Dookudu had one of the largest worldwide opening for a Telugu film, releasing globally in 1,600 screens, The film was released even in remote country like Botswana Telugu project to release in Botswana by the Telugu Association of Botswana. Dookudu was released over 79 theaters in the United States; the Los Angeles Times quoted Dookudu as "the biggest hit you've never heard of. Please see here to verify my informaton Cinema_of_Andhra_Pradesh
Please see the below information and decide whether Telugu cinema is second or Tamil is ?
The history has to be taken into account; Second spot just because Tamil has produced more films than Telugu in 2010 is silly. Never except 2010 did Tamil industry produce more films than telugu, while Telugu produces more films than Tamil consistently every year, moreover Infrastructure wise Telugu industry is the best in the country,
The Popularity of Cinema of Andhra Pradesh is evident on Wikipedia also, just type cinema in the wikipedia search bar at the top of your page and you will see suggestions of Cinema of Andhra Pradesh a regional cinema among the top suggestions of wherein international country cinemas like cinema's those of india, usa and uk.
Telugu is definitely second largest and Tamil has the Third position
I have not generated this data for the annual film production, I have provided valid citations to speak of the data. In terms of revenue, films produced annually, infrastructure and past record it is clearly evident that Telugu film industry is the second largest. And since this information is not original research, I suggest this information regarding Telugu industry's second position be mentioned in the article.
Telugu enjoys and affords films dubbed from various languages; unlike Tamil which has very few dubbed films and has small choice of films made mostly in original Tamil. All this speaks of market capacity. Providing all these valid data and valid citations backing the data it can be concluded that Telugu is second in the country and Tamil third. One needs valid citations to back his data and based on it one may derive to logical conclusions, I can provide all the citations for the data I provide and I will conclude accordingly.
I must add that TN govt. levied very high Taxes on dubbed films, to save the Tamil industry, while AP Govt. does not levy such high taxes because The Telugu industry is larger in size and can afford to have dubbed films coming in and still have its own Film industry surviving and running without any problems.
RTPking (talk) 07:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
RTPking (talk) 01:11, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
If only the Govt. of TN had not levied such high taxes to save the TN film industry, Tamil film industry would be no where close to second place both in revenues and Annual Film production. Govt. of TN levies taxes close to 50% on dubbed films where as Govt. of Andhra Pradesh being the more unbiased levies the same taxes on all the films equally. This move of Govt. Of TN was only to save the TN film industry, which could not survive dubs coming from Telugu Film industry in early 1990s.
The Govt. of AP also decided to levy high Taxes on dubbed films to the tune of 30 - 40% in year 2012 but later took back its move, due to agitations from lot of languages which are dubbed into Telugu, and all of the different film industries protested stating their concern. And now Vensatry claims Tamil industry has higher revenue which comes from including Telugu industry. RTPking (talk) 01:22, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
User:Vensatry can you give me a list of movies from Tamil film industry with record revenue collections which were not dubbed in Telugu ? You may really have work hard, only invain. RTPking (talk) 01:26, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
It is a clearly established fact that Telugu film industry is the second largest Film industry in term of Annual film production, so why is this fact being stopped from presented on the Article ? RTPking (talk) 19:10, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should this article state that the Telugu film industry is the "second largest film industry in India"? (see this diff for the original proposed addition). The section above discusses the concerns of currently involved editors in detail, which mainly revolve around the definition of "largest" and the fact that sources present varying (sometimes contradictory) opinions on the matter. A variety of solutions have been proposed:
Alternative suggestions are welcome as well. Please note that I have no personal opinion on the matter, and am drafting this RfC as a neutral party on behalf of the main disputants. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:39, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
The Tamil Nadu Govt. has levied very high taxes to the tune of 40% - 50% on films dubbed into Tamil to save the Tamil industry.
It is simple logic that larger number of films have to be supported by larger revenue; more films cost more money.
Telugu film industry is the second largest. I have got good sound knowledge on this matter.
RTPking (talk) 00:09, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
How can consistent past record of little less than a decade be discarded as disputed fact ? Please see Annual Film Production, it must be mentioned with all information included. Things do not change every year, the positions are attaining constancy, the number of films produced fluctuates marginally in small number (~10) which does not alter which industry comes second each year except rarely, hence a past record of multiple years has to be considered. By the way the dispute is about which is second largest Telugu or Tamil and not for the first position. RTPking (talk) 07:38, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
All my claims are recorded with proper citation above in this same page.
The easiest way to measure an industry's size is annual film output. RTPking (talk) 01:37, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
RTPking (talk) 07:24, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
It is clear that Tamil Film industry is smaller than Telugu Film industry in terms of Annual Film production. It is clear that Telugu Film Industry is second largest in terms of Annual Film production in India, why is this fact being prevented from represented on the article ? Please provide some sources which say that Telugu is not the Second in the country in terms of Revenue and Film distribution. RTPking (talk) 21:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
User:Vensatry:As far as dubbed film section on the article is considered, yes you yourself agreed that your edits were violating WP:NPOV and stopped adding the content further, I had given you multiple Vandalism warnings, but now you say you want to add that content again? Please see your [diff] wherein you used terms like Overtaking, Dominated among others which clearly violate WP:NPOV.
Now coming to my violation of WP:OR, are you accusing me - I am in violation of WP:OR then I would suggest you go read the article again, it is not considered violation of WP:OR with my providing of sources like:
RTPking (talk) 18:16, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Vensatry, imho this section belongs in the Tamil cinema section, since this is about Tamil films, not Telugu? -- Dravidian Hero 22:02, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
I will provide proper sources which speak of that speific information.RTPking (talk) 23:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Please discuss here before making any changes. RTPking (talk) 20:12, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Either remove all information in relation to Tamil film industry from the dubbing films section or allow all information in the dubbing film section allowing partial information in regards to Tamil film industry here gives wrong idea.
RTPking (talk) 18:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Just to clarify why those links were removed. First, you cannot add a category in "Further info" template. This is because, quite simply, a category doesn't provide any further information--it just lists a bunch of WP articles. If we had a "list" article of AP cinema crew, we could certainly link to that in the See Also section.
As for the Music, it simply doesn't belong here. That is an article about music that is commonly found in AP. However, I would be willing to have a link to the specific section of that article in the See Also, and I'll add it now as a compromise. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:15, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
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I have not yet checked the whole article, but from what I saw, here are a few suggestions for improvement. More will be arriving later:
Comment This article is nowhere close to GA stuff and needs a lot of work. —Vensatry (Ping me) 10:49, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
what do I respond??? when ever I find time, I will respond,
my goal of life is not to deal or argue with u whether to nominate some article as good or bad.
no one is paying me money, if the article gets nominated or not nominated.
as far as I am concerned, I am interested in history of this particular cinematic culture.
but i will not respond to non sense and deliberate attempt to fail an article based on pont of view, favoritism, nativity, culture etc, and illogical arguments like not included nagarjuna, or mahesh babu.
example: user kailash's review sounds
Raghupathi venkaih naidu is father of telugu cinema is not metaphorical??? It is the same as the statement dada saheb phalke is father of indian cinema in the cinema of india article.
the article has almost covered the important events or issues Murrallli (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
both how many? Guinness records
if u find u add, I did not add that section guinness book of records,
dont give blanket terms, as If I am responsible, think before u write,
ur my colleague not my boss or my reviewer or professor or head and I am not ur employee Murrallli (talk) 12:20, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Bcoz the nominator did not behave well with me and does not look ready for improvements, I have to fail this article. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:40, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Senior editor, has not discussed anything with me. On the other hand, user Kailash29792, has posted on user: Vensatry's talk page, and is conspiring against me, and has guided me to Vensatry's talk page. I am not interested in failing an article good or bad. It is not the job of the nominator to fail or pass an article. I am only interested in going through fellow editor's non abusive suggestions. It is not the job of User:Vensatry, to abuse edtors, also stop rubbing all other competent editors the wrong way, by conspiring with other editors.Murrallli (talk) 08:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Kindly stop your blanket terms, who is that senior editor??? let him provide his views in this review, so that which would allow for improvements in the article, I understand the concept of GA article, better than you, what u knew is only stating baselsss blanket terms, stop representing your self as a wikipedia owner, I am here to include appropriate suggestions to improve the articleMurrallli (talk) 05:37, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
also kindly stop getting aggravated, and abusing fellow editors is a very bad approach, provide time for the editors to expand on the article, also it appears that u do not want wish the article to be nominated, based on nativity and Pov reasons, wikipedia is not a place for this, u please be patient, while the article is being improved Murrallli (talk) 05:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
User:Muralli raised concerns about my recent clean-up (more still needs to be done, but I went as far as I had the energy for last night) on my talk page. I'll respond to those here.
First, Muralli was concerned about the change to the lead. The purpose of the lead is to summarize the article and provide introductory material. Before, the lead included some broad info like how "big" the industry it is--that's good. It also established when the industry started--that's also good. But then, there were just discussions of 3 or 4 random movies--that's bad. So, I moved the list of movies into the History section. The lead could be expanded, but it should be expanded based on a what is in the rest of the article.
Second, Muralli was concerned about the times that I removed individual movies or people. I did this because the Cinema of Andhra Pradesh article should not contain a large list of movies and how they performed. It should note only those that are particularly important for the broad, historical picture of the industry. In this case, we should really be using books or academic journals or other long-term reference works to decide what belongs in the History section. This helps ensure that we're getting an accurate picture of the history, instead of just picking out movies we like. We should not be mentioning each monetary milestone, and every movie included there has to be justified (first X, biggest Y, caused lasting change Z, etc.). It's possible that some of the movies/people I removed are somehow important, but it wasn't explained well; if so, feel free to reintroduce them and we can discuss.
And this gets to teh more general point. Some of the edits I made are actually mandatory per policy--moving the specific details out of the lead, removing sources that don't meet WP:RS, removing puffery, removing unsourced information, and fixing grammar problems. Some of them, though, are discretionary. I'm more than happy to discuss the details, and I don't even mind if you re-add the things you think I took out unreasonably. But if you do so, don't re-add the problems. That means that a blanket revert of my work is a bad plan, because it leaves the article in a much worse state. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:43, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
@Qwyrxian I would like to add that idlebrain is a reliable source, this is not a blog website and it is the most popular Tollywood website followed by couple of millions of people. RTPking (talk) 18:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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Could an admin (I mean, and admin not involved in the content dispute) please make "1915 to 2013" a level three heading? It's clearly intended to be part of the broader "History" section. I doubt there's anything controversial about this request. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:11, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
While the article is protected, let's have some discussion on some of the specific edits I made. One example: The end of the "early development" section has the following:
They established a long-lasting precedent of focusing exclusively on religious themes; Nandanar, Gajendra Moksham, and Matsyavatar, three of their most noted productions, centred on religious figures, parables, and morals. Good film industry.
The last three pretty obviously need to go, because they're grammatically incorrect, and if I guess at the meaning, POV. But I actually think the rest should go because it isn't sourced; I mean, yes, it's self-evident (doesn't need a source) to state that those three movies centre on religious figures, etc., as that can be determined simply by watching the movies. But the half setence before it is an interpretive one that requires a source. We could just tag it as needing a citation, but my preference is usually to remove any sort of interpretation first, and then if someone later finds a citation, they can re-add it. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
An abandoned Articles for creation draft for Pathi Bhakti has just been deleted. Pathi Bhakti is listed at List of Telugu films of the 1940s as a 1943 film. A 1958 Tamil film with the same title also exists: http://www.nthwall.com/ta/8321903055
If you think that either or both are notable, you may want to create articles for them. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 12:58, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Cinema of Andhra Pradesh → Telugu cinema – Now that the state of AP is being divided into 2 states, it makes sense to rename the article to Telugu cinema. Cheers, --Relisted. — Amakuru (talk) 12:43, 16 December 2013 (UTC) ƬheStrikeΣagle sorties 08:53, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Hardly any participation from others and the move is already made ? Thats unfortunate. Marchoctober (talk) 18:09, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
I have started creating the article List of Indian film series. I need your help in adding the film series in Telugu language (if any). Since there might be a lot of them consisting of 2 films, my opinion is that only those film series with 3 or more films should be added (all of which have been released only). Please feel free to come and add more and do the required corrections. Once fully created, this list will be highly informative. All future opinions and comments should be posted here or on my talk page only please since I would not be watching this talk page. - Jayadevp13 17:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
The distribution section needs to be rewritten. It needs to be written as: what is distribution structure in Telugu films? Currently it says some film has been collected highest openings. This information will change frequently, today one film in the future other films. It needs to be written in historical perspective and finally add the records if you think they are important.
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We need to add more Templates such as "Indian Cinema" where all the other film industries are based so that navigation from this Page to those pages would be easier and maintainable. We also need to add History, Budget, Rankings and Influences from this Film Industry to others. JayadevK (talk) 14:18, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
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Annapurna pictures is not a distributor of Telugu cinema. Annapurna pictures is a movie distributor in the USA. The name and link needs to be changed to Annapurna Studios Kirrugot (talk) 17:56, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
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