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What, you haven't splurged your two Gulden (or anyway two Batzen) on this? -- Hoary (talk) 01:09, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps we just differ on the man's, um, notority. -- Hoary (talk) 01:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey, you deleted stub Davide Marocco on July 4th, it was speedy deleted under section A7 criteria for speedy deletion. Apparently there's some question of his notability. Davide Marocco and another researcher Stefano Nolfi are currently doing research in AI, from a unique angle dealing with language development. I had added some material to the main AI article in which I referenced work done by Marocco... which you can find here [1].
The material was later deleted from the main AI article because of it's specific nature and the fact that the AI article is already very long and needs to be cut back. The research is important and if I find a good place for it, I will reintroduce the research.. in which case I will want the Davide Marocco stub again.... So right now the stub is not really important but I would like a copy of it, if in case, I find a good place to add how language evolution is currently being tested in AI cognisance.--Sparkygravity (talk) 04:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Only one of them got a decent girlfriend, tho. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
In acknowledgement of your reputation to call things as you see em, Gwen, I anticipate what would be sure to be inciteful commentary if you were to be so kind as to provide administrative input re a set of compound mergers I just proposed over at (well, of course) Wikipedia:Proposed mergers#Current listings. (You're the only admin I asked, btw.) Justmeherenow ( ) 18:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Gwen,
Since you were so kind at helping to moderate Hummus, I was wondering if you could lend an ear to a discussion at Za'atar regarding inclusion of photos. Thanks! --Nsaum75 (talk) 02:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I re-wrote the UFO Phil page. It was deleted, allegedly, because there were no citations. I did not have time last month to read/learn the process for creating citations. So, the page got deleted. I re-created the page with the valid citations in place. Therefore the article (which was MUCH shorter and contained completely different text) was completely re-written from scratch to conform to Wiki policies.
Yet, you deleted it anyway. It seems a tad unfair.
I was not the creator of the original UFO Phil page, but had done several edits to it to ensure the facts (as I understand them) were correct.
Please replace the UFO Phil page. Thanks.
Oh, and I guess I'm a sock-puppet because I could not remember my login when I was at work, so I created a new one. Yeah, I had two accounts. No intentional deception. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.54.119 (talk) 07:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the reason given prior to deletion was most certainly "lack of citations". The question on notability was only mentioned after the fact by one of the editors that voted to delete, of which there were only two.
As the rewritten page demonstrates, notability is not an issue since the included citations are from reliable sources.
In short, you may not be familiar with the subject, but that does not make it any less notable.
Your editor apparently did a Google search, didn't see anything he recognized and therefore decided the subject was not notable. Does this editor know who Doctor Demento is? Is this editor familiar with Coast to Coast AM which is one of the highest rated radio talk shows in the world? What about XM Radio? How about The Tom Green Show. UFO Phil has appeared and/or regularly appears on all of these programs and more. The list of credits is long.
Besides, since when did Wikipedia need outside sources to validate it's own articles? If everything in Wikipedia needed to be matched up and compared with another "reliable reference source" to test it's validity, then that would make Wikipedia itself redundant and obsolete. Do the editors of Encyclopedia Brittanica need to flip through Funk and Wagnall's in order to validate their own entries? Hardly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.54.119 (talk) 10:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. No hurry on this, but if you get a chance, can you check out Stranger_in_a_Strange_Land#Homosexuality_and_gender_roles and take a look at Talk:Stranger_in_a_Strange_Land#Original_research_in_Homosexuality_section.3F. I'm trying to cleanup the article and I wanted to get some extra eyes on this section before I remove it to the talk page. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 16:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. I just undeleted List of sustainability topics (U) and List of sustainability topics (V), as User:Yamakiri had merged that to List of sustainability topics without crediting User:Granitethighs. To preserve the GFDL and allow correct attribution, I undeleted. It was all a bit of a mess, and different admins treated the various speedy and PROD requests differently. I've been tidying up to make things consistent. Please don't take offence, but could you possibly check things out a bit more before deleting in future? Thanks. Any problems, please ask. (I would normally be more polite, but it has been a lot of tidying up). See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of sustainability topics (0-9) and here. Carcharoth (talk) 12:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The consensus was to put "Israeli Government banned it" only without "under an anti-terrorism law passed three days after Lehi assassinated Folke Bernadotte." - even Shabazz offered it.
The only argument was about weather to put in second paragraph, (since it already apear in Count Folke Bernadotte chapter)which even Amoruso disagreed, an
If you decide on the consensus by Shabazz, then atlist put it this way.
--Shevashalosh (talk) 18:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey Gwen,
I'm new to creating an article on wiki, and I understand now the importance of referencing as a validity check. I have reliable sources documenting the content of my article and I will tag them properly (to the best of my ability).
Could I have a copy of it to work on?
Thanks so much.
VanguardMetal (talk) 18:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Gwen,
My name is Janet Cheeseman. I have been trying to write an article on Wikipedia about Keyscript Shorthand. You have deleted it twice because of blatant advertising. I am asking for another opportunity to rewrite the article. In the re-write, I intend to use only the first paragraph of the second attempt, which contains only factual information. But if you think that this first paragraph contains advertising, please inform me before the re-write.
Thanks
Janet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassyjanek (talk • contribs) 09:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen,
I wrote to you about half an hour ago. Do you think the article on Keyscript Shorthand would survive the deletion process if I wrote the first paragraph only, PLUS catalogued the percentages of writing saved in the exercise passages in 'The Lightning Guide to Keyscript' which is the beginners guide, published this year? I can include this publication in the references. The results are as follows: 96 passages. 21 save less than 60% of the writing, 15 save 60% & 60 save more than 60%.
I am sorry to take up your time like this, but such feedback from you may save the article from deletion again. It is very time-consuming to compose an article, only to have it deleted. I know such articles cannot contain any advertising, but it is sometimes hard to tell whether it does or doesn't when one is after all, only stating the facts.
Thanks again,
Kind regards,
Janet Cheeseman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.132.8 (talk) 10:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC) aka Cassyjanek —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassyjanek (talk • contribs) 12:52, 13 July 2008 (UTC) Cassyjanek (talk) 12:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Aarghh. -- Hoary (talk) 14:48, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
No problem, always fun to edit something on the main page! BencherliteTalk 07:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Might this be up your street? -- Hoary (talk) 15:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! grep would show me what it was that needed to be fixed, but it wouldn't fix it (unless grep has advanced far beyond the state with which I'm fairly familiar). I'd forgotten about ancient but serviceable sed, I'm ashamed to say. Other stuff to do over the next few days, but I hope to get down to this in the weekend. -- Hoary (talk) 15:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, right, yes -- but all the files are stiff with links.
The wonderful thing is how tiny this website is, and how, um, hyperlightning fast sed (etc) will be, running on hardware designed to do whatever it is that teens do these days (download and play porn movies I suppose). I wonder how many dozen mirrors of the entire website I can get on what's now the least capacious and cheapest USB flash memory available. -- Hoary (talk) 16:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
The deleted contents of Suzanne olsson might be interesting. Sigh. Regards, BencherliteTalk 16:59, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I notice that you deleted Portal:RTÉ but forgot to delete its talk page Portal talk:RTÉ. It still appears in the assessment statistics. TIA ww2censor (talk) 13:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Your further help at Talk:Lehi_(group)#Category:_Jewish_Terrorism is needed. Sorry. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 16:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Gwen, I am a long-time reader and first-time poster on Wikipedia. As a hobby historian, I have spent years researching Kubizek. I have also been in contact with August Kubizek's son Rudolf, who kindly provided me with copies of photographs, a family tree, and various other materials which I think could fill in a few gaps on Kubizek's bio. I have already begun to fill in the basic information, names and dates, but know practically nothing about how to go about editing the article properly.
So I thought I would contact you, hoping you could kindly keep an eye on my progress and perhaps provide me with some tips. I am hesitant to submit the photographs I was given, as I cannot rightfully claim to own the copyright, but will submit a photograph I took of his grave.
Thanks in advance for your help, Anna wilder (talk) 15:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Anna wilder
Good idea - I don't think she's going to listen, and if she really is ten years old, it would not be very surprising. Acroterion (talk) 22:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
You have got to be kidding me. Sure you can have some tongue-in-cheek, but at least cite some policies/guidelines to show some semblance of process has taken place instead of treating the whole thing as a joke. Please reopen and relist the AFD as the 4 weak opinions were not adequate enough to conclude anything. -- Netsnipe ► 04:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Why you deleted deleted "Interactive Data Extraction and Analysis" 00:28, 12 June 2008 and removed all discussion about it. No information in any log. What is this arbitrariness? Why marticle of ACL (ad) still on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by F2s (talk • contribs)
I misunderstood. I thought that when you declined speedy deletion for Robert K. Hall (nationl guard officer), I would get more time. It was just deleted by another. The Americal Museum archives are open only a few hours a week, and I have not been able to get there yet. I wonder if I should bother to try again. He may just not be famous enough. Just because I wanted to know more about him does not mean that anyone else cares. Best regards Todd Jtmilesmmr (talk) 19:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Ms. Gale, After reading many inputs you've made to Wikipedia (and being very impressed by them), I would like to ask for your assistance on a matter.
Topic is about A. Hitler's death in the Berlin bunker. Specifically, photos of the couch that he and Eva killed themselves on. My father is a combat vetran of WWII and I thought for his 88th birthday, I would print off a few pictures I had run across on this topic. And obviously, didn't bookmark the website and now, naturally, can't find them.
I know I had gotten to them (the link) via links from Wikipedia and I seem to recall they redirected perhaps to a Russian site (.ru), maybe(?). The link to the photo of the couch showed a Soviet soldier standing in front of the couch as another peered from behind it. The photo link wasn't directly from a main Wikipedia page, but indirectly from photos that were marked as being available for public use (or some such wording to that affect).
Is there any assistance or recommendations you could offer to locate this website again? (I have done all kinds of searches Yahoo, Goggle, Clusty, etc. etc. - all to no avail). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.240.168 (talk) 19:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I dont understand who you are to decide who is a notable person...Roger Stoller worked with Buckminster Fuller. Just because you don't know about him, doesnt mean he isnt notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.171.107 (talk) 02:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi I saw that you put a speedy declined on Raw Spirit Festival. No major issue but maybe you can help me understand the correct process as I patrol all the time and usually what I see and tag does get deleted (self praise is no praise) so this is just to educate me a little :-)
I don't mind either way to be honest but it annoyed me when they removed my tag (say this to someone outside the WP world and they will look for the Vodka bottle). --BustOut (talk) 08:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Deletions:
Deleting Skull & Serpent was incorrect. >>>A two year old deletion discussion is not relevant. For example, one of those posts stated that there were too few Google hits on the name--but that was two years ago, and there are many more hits now.
>>>It makes a perfectly legitimate stub as it was left. Henry Bacon is a noted architect. It can be expanded if left alone for a bit.>>>The article does fit in with the series on college secret societies. So its part of a set.>>>I read your page, it doesn't apply don't tell me to read it.>>>Any Wikipedia policy that states that a two year old deletion discussion created by ten posters must be preserved inviolate is ridiculous.OoooooNaaNaNaOoooNana (talk) 01:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I read the link at the top of the page as I had already said. Wandering around wikipedia doing whatever you like to other people's articles and then telling them to drudge through your own prose for clues to why you do what you do is not endearing behavior. If you read your page, you would find there is nothing there about "G4". As a matter of fact, talking to people in code is not especially useful, either. Nothing you have said addresses any of the points I have raised. it's still a valid stub, it's still a part of a larger set of articles. OoooooNaaNaNaOoooNana (talk) 01:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for deleting a legitimate article. Thank you for responding in a dismissive fashion. Thank you for not addressing any of the points I raised. Thank you for doing both things a second time. It's so rewarding having this discussion. Your comments are so constructive. I only hope my poor efforts at communication haven't slowed you in your efforts to delete whatever you see fit to by whatever criteria you think you are applying. It's things like this that make wikipedia such a wonderful place. OoooooNaaNaNaOoooNana (talk) 02:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Here we have a red-linked user with an empty talk page, limited SPA contribs and a borderline disruptive user name saying I read your page, it doesn't apply don't tell me to read it. If this user doesn't think the link at the top of this page applies to them, there is nothing I can do to help them. Gwen Gale (talk) 02:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Meanwhile, I do read and heed what folks post here: I've added a section on previously AfD'd content (CSD G4). Gwen Gale (talk) 14:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Look, I'm not going to get in an argument with you. I will note "...a red-linked user with an empty talk page, limited SPA contribs and a borderline disruptive user name..." In other words, you are resorting to a personal attack. That phrase mentions four elements about me as a poster, and nothing about content of what I have posted, or the content of the article. Please try observing wikipedia policies in the future. "there is nothing I can do to help them" I can tell you this, if I deleted something you wrote, and you asked me about it, I would expect that out of common courtesy, I would owe you some explanation, not reference to some obscure FAQ I had tucked away somewhere. You have done NOTHING to explain why you deleted anything except three or four references to some boilerplate you have. That is rude, in any country on the globe. And my user name is NOT borderline disruptive, it just happens to be a good deal more creative than yours. Try WP:Civil, and Wikipedia:Assume good faith. OoooooNaaNaNaOoooNana (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Just for the record, "I read your page, it doesn't apply, don't tell me to read it." OoooooNaaNaNaOoooNana (talk) 01:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC) "I read the link at the top of the page as I had already said." OoooooNaaNaNaOoooNana (talk) 01:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC) Otherwise, this is not getting anywhere, and I am not going follow along after it.OoooooNaaNaNaOoooNana (talk) 23:46, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello Gale, hope you are well.
I reverted a series of edits by Special:Contributions/Javaeu. They've invented something really special, and feel the world should know here and here and he does not think he's breaking WP:EL. I feel our conversation has reached an impasse. Could you provide a third opinion/ Thanks. Dlohcierekim 17:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I ask you to post the link and a article page for me since you and the other guy deleated my contribution, I guess there are many rules and to get through all of them I do not have the resources what can I do to get my links back on the relevant pages ? signing -> Javaeu (talk) 17:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
You deleted the Nethercutt Foundation article before time for sufficient discussion. This is an organization headed by a very prominent American politition. The foundation recruits applicants from many college campuses and has taken students to Washinton to meet with senior members of the House of Representative, US Senate, and the armed forces.--Counsel (talk) 17:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
When you deleted the copied article, you apparently forgot to delete the talk page. Talk:Novi Zagreb - istok (the talk page of the deleted copy) does not contain any useful information apart from some banners. On the other hand, Talk:Novi Zagreb-istok (the talk page of the original article with page history) does contain both these banners and some discussions and also has page history, but I can't move it together with the article. Thanks for your help. Admiral Norton (talk) 18:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of The George Nethercutt Foundation. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. RMHED (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't indicate importance or significance of a real person
First of all, he is a Real person. Secondly he is a well-known artist from Holland and is becoming a great artist in the world of WildLife Art. Especially in countries like Holland, Germany, England and even Oman. So is it possible to make an article of this person?
With kind regards,
Remco Band The Netherland —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rempierules (talk • contribs) 10:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Enjoy the work of a pro! -- Hoary (talk) 11:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I based my article on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taltopia, which is a similar website to Skillwho in size and notability. Why is that article allowed to remain, but mine was deleted? What makes the Taltopia article "notable"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Surfermac (talk • contribs) 02:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Just a friendly reminder to undo autoblocks when you unblock someone - Edtrash (talk · contribs) in this instance. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
← Well, from the history at WP:AUTOBLOCK, all of that verbiage is very old - maybe too old. —Wknight94 (talk) 14:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, can you please keep an eye out for this page. It has been created and speedily deleted at least 4 times and it's back again. It's a vandal piece. Thanks!! Setwisohi (talk) 12:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Sure, the page has just been Speedied, Justin G. Davis, it was also speedied as Justin Graham Davis and it was speedied in another format. The user seems to be both an anon. IP and User:Justinjenga - also in different guises I think. Until he/she gets bored recreating this, I think it could use some wise monitoring. Setwisohi (talk) 12:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I provided some diffs on the AN thread. WOuld appreciate your comments.pschemp | talk 16:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
What objections do you have to my behaviour? 86.44.28.16 (talk) 00:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
(OD)Well, you certainly have Abtract's gift for talking a subject to death. Dayewalker (talk) 01:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Err Daye, my editing is being used against an indef-blocked editor, and the isssue has wider implications with regard to how IPs are treated here. 86.44.28.16 (talk) 05:10, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
(OD) No one has treated you with bad faith. You haven't been blocked, and your comments haven't been removed. More than one (actually every) editor who's looked at your contributions, edits, style, etc. has reasoned you might be Abstract, but you're not blocked. This IP hasn't even been tagged with a sock notice yet.
Indeed, you are the one who keeps coming up and making complaint after complaint about being labeled a sockpuppet. As an IP address, your privacy is probably important to you, right? So why are you concerned about someone being wrong about your identity, especially when you have no identity on wikipedia other than an IP address (which is subject to change)? Dayewalker (talk) 06:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not interested in considering that you aren't or are "Abtract", a username I'd never heard of till recently and which I haven't investigated. To me, your most salient characteristic is that of a bore. Since you are so boring, and since what I've seen in your edit history suggests that your positive contributions are few and small, and since you are demonstrably a waste of people's time, I'm uninterested in the putative injustice of any penalty given you. This may seem unfair, but you've brought it upon yourself. And you can easily dispel it: either (a) run along and edit an article, or (b) devote your valuable time to something away from Wikipedia. Or of course (c) say how long a block you want. -- Hoary (talk) 06:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Rather, if an article starts out with, "Naomi Ellen Watts (born 28 September 1968) is an English-Australian actress. She is known for her roles in Mulholland Drive, the film remakes of The Ring, King Kong and most recently Funny Games along with her Academy Award-nominated role in the film 21 Grams" this is much more likely to give a reader something helpful!
Do you think it might be a good idea to omit "most recently" from the above example, which would seem to be a violation of a WP policy or two? Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Hm. That's only because most contributors are not editors and just don't think about things like that. (I found two of the policies at WP:Words_to_avoid and WP:Avoid statements that will date quickly. I'm sure there are more.) Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC) Updated by GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't see anything procedurally wrong with the nomination, and I think it was made in good faith (I made a comment in support of deletion, actually). So I don't think it was a candidate for speedy closure. — Carl (CBM · talk) 18:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
in the form of Vice-vive-vice (talk · contribs). --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 20:05, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
we have pages at VH1
www.vh1.com/artists/az/hogan_s_heroes/albums.jhtml
and Rolling Stone
Billboards Magazines' Phonolog Pop artists Beginning with"HOD"
i am trying to help fill out this page.
maybe ill be able to figure out and i thought i would be able to constantly add week by week for a small time and get it to be as Professional as KISS or any Professional group.
G B
Hi Gwen! thank you for your Very Quick Response. I very much appreciate it. I will analyze the page that teaches how to effectively supply the proper information. Hopefully, the understanding of this, so far, complex task will be revealed to me. its really the first creative thing i ever did that was not good enough in years and i am going to correct that. When i am done i will have supplied a comprehensive and proper entry. i might give it a little time for me to re-group and gather all sources needed to make this a successful part of the wikipedia online encyclopedia.
thank you for your time G B
I shouldnt have signed my name i erased it ,it was showing up on a google search. And I will ask you if i run into something i cant handle.CombatMarshmallow (talk) 19:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Please move this back to my user space and at least explain what else is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by D453g (talk • contribs) 20:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
When you deleted the copied article, you apparently forgot to delete the talk page. Talk:Novi Zagreb - istok (the talk page of the deleted copy) does not contain any useful information apart from some banners. On the other hand, Talk:Novi Zagreb-istok (the talk page of the original article with page history) does contain both these banners and some discussions and also has page history, but I can't move it together with the article. Thanks for your help. Admiral Norton (talk) 18:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for bringing this out of the archive, but I forgot to check your page after I posted the notice. Talk:Novi Zagreb-istok should belong to the Novi Zagreb - istok article (note the spaces between "Zagreb" and "istok", but there is a Talk:Novi Zagreb - istok, which has only some WikiProject banners and lacks the text. I moved it to Talk:Novi Zagreb - istok/Temp, but I still can't do the move. Could you delete Talk:Novi Zagreb - istok and Talk:Novi Zagreb - istok/Temp so that I can move Talk:Novi Zagreb-istok to Talk:Novi Zagreb - istok. Admiral Norton (talk) 17:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Mikel San Jose Dominguez hasn't played a senior professional game yet - but - he was an unused substitute for a premiership match against Chelsea - BBC Football Murray conor (talk) 19:59, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen! Could I trouble you to take an objective look at a user's recent contributions and some of the discussions they have been involved in? I don't want to specify what I'm concerned about lest I bias your opinion, so I'll just define it broadly as concerns about the editor's adherence to certain core WP policies, and let you see if there's anything that concerns you. Please let me know if you're willing to spend a bit of time and effort doing this. If so, I'll point you to the user; if not, I won't trouble you further. Thanks, alanyst /talk/ 04:05, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Never mind Joe Smith was more than likely a skilled scammer mostly after teenaged girls and gold which is the same, tired old tale we've often seen long before and since but the pith is, those waves of women who were later drawn and born into LDS have since wrought it into altogether something else from what he, BY and their cronies meant it to be back in the 1840s and 50s after he'd woven things together from a mix of the KJ Bible, Freemasonry and early 19th century European-American popular culture. From the outlook of faith, who is anyone to say why the angels flocked about him, flaws and all and who doesn't have them?
There are reasons why LDS spun into the most successful new religion to come along since Islam and much of this has to do with how the believers themselves have tended to feel about family, community, health and work ever since (along with, I dare say, their demographic backgrounds and north American geopolitics). For all the theological and historical faults (and crimes) one may find whilst digging into the history of Mormonism, if the only thing I'd ever wanted to do with my life had been to raise a flock of happy, healthy and smart kids, I'd have thought long and hard about doing it in a small town nestled by the dappled hills of southern Utah (even given what I've long known about what happened at Mountain Meadows). Science is one thing, spirituality's another and how folks go about their lives in the meantime is what's meaningful.
Now, overall, User:Écrasez l'infâme seems to have made a mistake wontedly seen on Wikipedia: Like it or not, the sources show a gaping lack of any meaningful link between human spiritual belief systems and (the much newer) human scientific method. Put another way, most folks (even more so the clever ones) go along with science for stuff like having lights in the house at night, putting food on the table, even helping get the kids through their bouts of sickness and so on, all of which makes life much easier and longer but when it comes to dealing with the inner life most (but not all) of us were born with, religion is still wildly, sometimes startlingly popular and there are very long standing survival benefits to this, stretching back at least thousands of years and likely much further.
Since religions are belief systems with deep anthropological trends of their own there is no need (or pith) to debunk them through a scientific outlook (very sad and failed outcomes may be had in trying, though). I would even glark, when and if the day ever comes that we can describe any human religion only in scientific, wholly repeatable terms, it'll be clear there's nothing there to debunk, the sundry fibs and lies of religion and politics being more or less but spin-offs of the highly narrowed takes on life we each cling upon to get us through our tougher days and nights, which any self-aware political marketer will tell you can still be played and swayed to the hilt.
As an aside, having grown up in the city of Calvin speaking both French and English, I can tell you Écrasez l'infâme sounds even stronger and more PoV in French than does its English translation but there's no need to go on about it since these days, the Wikipedia community as a whole puts up with mildly disruptive usernames.
This said, Book of Mormon should cite critical takes on its history along perhaps, with a bit more on Smith's treasure hunting background (after all, from an outlook of faith, maybe that's why the angels settled on Smith to begin with). The pith is, it's not for the article to say the book is codswallop, which is what Écrasez l'infâme is trying to make happen: This strays from both the sources and NPoV. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Gwen, I take exception to your previous deletion of my effort to create a Wiki site for Camp Wabanaki, a camp I attended as both a camper during my childhood, and later as a staff member. I wanted to create it for legacy purposes, not for blatant advertising as you suggested. I have not attended the camp since 1983, and have no personal stake in its promotion, but do consider it a worthy dictionary item. I'd appreciate your respect of that when I try to recreate it again in the near future. Thanks. Jmr007 (talk) 23:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Subst:DRVNote Joseph Armitage Robinson---Clive Sweeting
Joseph Armitage Robinson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I'm sorry but I do not understand this deletion review. The deleted article was about Joseph Armitage Robinson, "...successively Dean of Westminster (1902-1911) and of Wells (1911- )" Gwen Gale (talk) 16:54, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to thank you for deleting my KEV 2008 KS page. I put it up there by accident and didn't know what to do to get it down. I was trying to create a profile or practice page something but I am still new and learning. Obviously, I didn't learn enough. I wasn't advertising because I have nothing to sell. But I appreciate you fixing my dumbo error and apologize for the inconvenience it may have caused you. Thank you very much. :-)
Have a great day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by KEV 2008 KS (talk • contribs) 19:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
When you have a minute, would you please review your decision to speedy-delete the Joseph Armitage Robinson page? I'm not sure that the biography would survive an AfD discussion but being "Dean of Westminster" and "a renowned scholar" with an actual biography is at least an assertion of notability. This page didn't really qualify under case A7. I suspect that it's going to land at Deletion review if it stays speedied. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 20:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello
We posted an entry for American designer Donna Ricco. We work for her company and this entry was reviewed, edited and approved by her and all of the information is accurate. Could you please advise as to why it was deleted? And what we need to do to get it re-posted? Many thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnaricco (talk • contribs) 15:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
New difficulties arose, with your exprience needed.
Thank you.
--Shevashalosh (talk) 18:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
As Gwen points out, the easiest way to avoid any POV issue with the designation of terrorist is to represent what the sources term them. Beam 03:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thank you for the prompt response to the CSD. Please see the AN/I report here about that editor, if you could? ThuranX (talk) 03:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to thank you sooo much for understanding me and my purposes, unlike veryone else who has just blocked me instead of listening. I am now off to help the wiki!!!! Love isNoobish 19:13, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
See my talk page, i dont feel like typing it again. Thanks.Love isNoobish 02:47, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
SEE MY TALK PAGE Love isNoobish 03:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Read my talk page please, i need you to read it immediatly otherwise i wont be happy. Thanks. Love isNoobish 03:17, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I tried to write the article as objectively as possible, but I do see some areas were something could be considered blatant advertising (such as where I said campers learn skills 'from top to bottom'). With your permission, I would like to write it again and make sure to be extra careful. I am also open to suggestion about ways to change the article. If I were you I would also look in the category of 'summer camps in maryland', as I attempted to emulate my article from these. Thanks for your time. Callevacamp (talk) 13:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
How many more times are you going to block me without ever taking action against those who commit personal attacks against me? How many more times? Wfgh66 (talk) 16:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I will not tolerate receiving warnings from editors that have been blocked themselves for breaking WP:NPA Wfgh66 (talk) 16:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Blow it off, both of you. Begin anew now. Gwen Gale (talk) 17:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
You are being beckoned =) –xeno (talk) 03:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'd like to request you reevaluate and reconsider your speedy deletion of Yardbarker. You appear to have deleted it under CSD A7 web as the previous two deletions were done. However the most recent edit to the page was significantly different from the previous versions and in fact did meet the criterion for at least going to a consensus discussion for deletion if nothing else. The most recent edit did assert the subject's importance and relevance for inclusion as well as notability. Admittedly the previous two deletions did not, but this most recent one did. Your deletion log also states "blog ad", however if you read the most recent version of the page the page is not an ad, nor is it a blog. The page actually refers to a corporation based in Emeryville California, and the page meets WP:CORP if I'm not mistaken. Gateman1997 (talk) 17:38, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen,
Chris "Daddy" Dave is considered one of the most influential drummers in the world of this era in Jazz and or Hip Hop. He is the most requested drummer for session gigs and tours from the most legendary artists in the Jazz, Gospel, Pop and Hip Hop worlds. He does university clinic tours and is about to release an instructional Drum DVD. He is drummer's favorite drummer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee.Turley (talk • contribs) 03:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I believe I accidentally requested speedy deletion of User:Oni Ookami Alfador/Userboxes/noyou in my userspace, a request that you fulfilled. I had intended to tag another image and mistakenly tagged this one, would you please be so kind as to restore it if you have a spare moment? Thank you.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 15:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd appreciate your comments here. Thanks, TheMightyQuill (talk) 18:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Thoughts in search of a thinker, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thoughts in search of a thinker. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice?
As you suggested AfD, I'd appreciate your input here. Thanks Mvjs (talk) 05:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Gwen,
Something you said on Bedford's talk page confused me. I thnk you know this, but just to be safe: The stuf in my sandbox is there because I put it there, not Bedford. It's a copy of his blog post, which i put there as a permanent record in case he deleted the blog post. So if you're insisting on an on-wiki response because the post was on-wiki, that isn't the case. --barneca (talk) 21:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I created that page for discussion for a WP:THIRD complaint... it wasn't orphaned, that was the process I was told to use both in DRV and WP:THIRD. I'm trying to follow the process here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma866 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I know you have a "job" to do (no offense meant, but I realize that most people handle Wiki as a hobby), but the deletions of Central Kentucky topics pertaining to Punk subculture like Eugene Records and the Infected seemed a bit hasty. I noticed the tags for speedy deletion and added my own comments in order to help stave off deletion, but I am not the originator of the articles and I doubt that the creator of the articles had a chance to respond to the call for deletion. The original author was only notified about five hours ago and while the speed at which Wiki can and does move is fast, I think it behooves us to make considerations for the everyday lives of those people who contribute.
I really wish that more people had gotten a chance to chime in on the importance of the deleted articles before they got the axe. I don't know if you've ever lived in or visited Central Kentucky, but there's not a lot of variety in local events and entertainment so for those folks in the Central KY Punk scene, there's little else but Eugene Records and the associated articles. That makes the cultural significance, at least to them, pretty high.
Any article on Wikipedia has some element of advertisement, even if it's to simply acknowledge that something exists. If you read the deleted articles, you may note that they were for informative purposes, not solicitation. There's not a lot of articles about the culture of the area beyond horse racing, college sports, churches, and the University of Kentucky, so adding to that should be a help for the region.
If you still have access to the history of the many of the articles, you may see that I have slowly been working on some of them. On the Talk page for Lexington, Kentucky I have suggested making a section for Music, musicians, and popular bands in the area for the Culture section. My intention was to help combine all the elements of local color and culture so that the readers may get an idea of what Lexington and Central Kentucky have to offer any visitor or resident.
I don't know if you can do this, but if it is possible to restore the pages but add stub tags to them, I'd be very appreciative for the chance to refine them and add to them. I admit that the amount of effort that I put into this response could have gone to making those pages more "Wikifiable", so if you could please give that opportunity, I will make sure that I take it.
Thank you,
Team4Technologies (talk) 23:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
You have deleted BarracudaDrive
The article you deleted was carefully designed to be similar to articles you find links to from the following section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_server_software
You should also delete *ALL* similar pages, or are you giving preferences to certain products?
You have two options. Delete all similar pages to BarracudaDrive (there are many) Restore BarracudaDrive —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilfrednilsen (talk • contribs) 03:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you restore this version by deleting the later reversions. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Please, when fulfilling or declining CSD requests, make sure that you take a proper look at the article's history. Here, you changed a CSD tag to a PROD tag, when in fact the same user who added the CSD tag had earlier added a PROD tag, which was then immediatley contested. It therefore baffles me why on Earth you'd re-add the PROD tag, when clearly it's not suitable here. The only logical explaination that I can come up with is that you didn't check the history, which is poor form. TalkIslander 19:15, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.
Cheers!
J.delanoygabsadds 20:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Gwen,
When I asked for feedback on my talk page, I was and am still open to feedback about working within wikipedia. Seeing one's article on which over an hour was spent, is a bit discouraging. However, if I may explain to you why it was written.
I am the author of the original Contagious Leadership. There are three other authors of this topic, as a speech, workbook, or other work, and I have the only license to use it from the original trade mark holder. This type of Leadership, Contagious Leadership, has been added to the wikipedia page "leadership" and thus in my opinion warranted an explanation. I looked up other authors and noted the style in which an article for them was written and followed suit. I do not believe that my article was blatant advertising as it merely stated fact and no superlatives (i.e. world's greatest, blah, blah, blah). The intent is to inform and provide other content, thus why I provided numerous other links (both internal and external). Short of hiring someone else or asking someone else to write the article for me, I am not clear how to proceed. Please advise and thank you. mlw (talk) 20:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC) Monica
Gwen,
Again I am struck by the Undo. clearly I am a bit confused as to how this works and have a few questions...
- what body provides you with the authority to decide what is notable and what is not - when one has authored multiple works widely accepted by thousands in audiences, amazon, multiple websites and blogs, what governing body gets to decide when information from that expert is not worth being listed in the appropriate category. - what is the purpose of allowing for credible editing of an article when someone such as yourself who knows little or nothing of the contributor has the enormous power to merely delete valuable and informative content with a few key strokes.
I look forward to your feedback in as timely a fashion as you were able to suggest that my article "Might get tagged" followed by your tag, your deletion, and your undo. Thank you very much.
mlw (talk) 21:02, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Got the page you sent and it was helpful. Perhaps having won Emmys is where I stand. I believe this is the type (see below) of article that was placed and perhaps it helps if I mention that I hold a designation that less than 10% of the speakers in the world have achieved, though I have not arrived to such stardom as being on people magazine. (nor am I certain that I want to). Simply, the point seems to remain that I am not encouraged to write an article about myself and must wait until someone takes it upon themselves. yes?
Naomi Ellen Watts (born 28 September 1968) is an English-Australian actress. She is known for her roles in Mulholland Drive, the film remakes of The Ring, King Kong, Funny Games and her Academy Award-nominated role in the film 21 Grams.
Thanks for your time and for your assistance. mlw (talk) 21:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Alright. One last question. Can you help me understand why the Contagious Leadership notation under Types of Leaders was undone? And how I might use myself as a reference? Also, forgive my reference to you as having made the original tag. I see now that this is not the case.
mlw (talk) 21:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your input and I am struggling with this on so many levels, but I am sure you hear that frequently. Not your fault, merely imposing guidelines that have been set. I get it and am rapidly trying to figure it out. To that end,is there is a list of reliable sources that I might take a peak at? thanks for your time in discussion and perhaps I can give a few examples of said reliable sources: is Jack Canfield (chicken soup for the soul co-author) a reliable resource if he mentions something on success? is a mention in the USA TODAY of my book a reliable source? if a book is published by a McGraw Hill or a Random House consider automatically a reliable source? and who makes such decisions?
I realize that these guidelines keep individuals who believe they are famous - yet this is only true in their own head - from blatant self promotion, yet am trying to find that happy medium between mere journalistic fact reporting and marketing for a business that the whole world does not yet know about.
Thank you again! mlw (talk) 21:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Wow - All I think I should say is maybe one day I will be worthy. Until then, all the best to you, too. mlw (talk) 21:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Gwen, The article I wrote on BnBStar.com has just been deleted while a very similar article about a very similar directory is presented on Wikipedia. Could you explain to me what the difference is? Both sites are popular in the industry and highly regarded. What should have I done differently to keep the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travelegia (talk • contribs) 23:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I was curious why you deleted the Henkei redirect page. I provided a (hangon) take and explained in the talk page that Henkei is the Japanese name for a toy line which DOES have have an article on the Wikipedia. I even gave it a talk page and a references. Was there anything else I needed? Thanks Mathewignash (talk) 00:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
... that the editor wanted deleted.
Please forgive taking your time for this frivolous gesture, but while patrolling recent changes today I happened to notice a page creator who wanted their page deleted ... and I wondered to myself: "How many dragons will they have to slay to get their page deleted?"
Then comes the Lady of Shallot ... waving a graceful hand ... and poof. My applause, Milady. Proofreader77 (talk) 00:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi I am not sure why my page was deleted "Miles Wydall"
I only added it as my name appeared on this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damon_Kelly
and i thought people would like to know a bit about me
I also coach this guy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Alexander_Turner
Anyhow maybe that is notible enough - which is fine - just trying to help
Thanks Miles Mileswydall (talk) 03:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi - thanks for your quick reply - which bit do i fail on it it notible ? or another reason Miles Mileswydall (talk) 05:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi - oh i see - Thanks for the help Mileswydall (talk) 09:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
I have created that article assuming that i could help Young Entrepreneurs, In saying so i am not doing that for any official cause. I have seen my friends started a new company and could not come on top on Search Engines as they dont have much to spen on SEO. Being a Softare Engineer - i thought i could explore SEO and Google Page Rankings and can help every New Entrepreneur to come forward.
If you think - that i have highlighted myself in the article, You please delete that part and keep other text in the article - like steps to increase page ranks - which could help people to get Page Ranks and I would also like to publish that there are 1000s of companies that they can claim SEO but they even dont know what is that. In saying so they dont have their own PRs and they claim that they could get you PR.
So its upto you, If you think that i am doing something wrong and not for the public use you can block my articles.
Regards, Pranav Gupta —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pranavsaloni (talk • contribs) 03:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen I posted an article on Esoteric Online Radio yesterday and you deleted it. The note on there was regarding its link to persons/organisation/band etc that are still alive! Well that is very true they are. I double checked the most haunted link as they do exactly the same as Esoteric Online Radio but on the celestial channels. In fact Esoteric does far more than Most haunted,such as documentaries,debates,bring fraudulent mediums and dangerous cults to light, yet you deleted the article.
Most haunted mention their team and celeb guests they have on their show,so did I. The people Esoteric has on its shows may not be flashy mediums and superstars,but noted authors such as Phil Gardiner and Tim Wallace Murphy, I checked to see if there were links to these authors and there were none and so added outside web links to there personal webpage.
On Most haunted they also list there home pages, so did I,yet my article was deleted.
I went back into the article and deleted and changed the links,text and so on. Esoteric Online Radio is noted for its work within the Esoteric Community and its channels that are accessible online worldwide.
I would like that article back please,but I am not sure what else to do with it to NOT mention anyone alive etc as of course Esoteric,the team,its guests are very much alive. It is extremely ufair in my opinion to allow pages such as most haunted who just show paranormal investigations on TV,and delete Esoterics article when as well as paranormal investigations they do so much more than most haunted could ever do! And yes I know this can be daunting, and yes I have looked at various pages on wiki, and I simply checked your most haunted link to get a good idea of exactly what to do, infact there page is basically a huge advert! Please advise (not with the "I I know this is daunting" link etc) not being funny or sarcastic,its juts that will do me no good what so ever. I just want plain advice on what to change on that page!Wiki is confusing enough as it is... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esotericonline (talk • contribs) 08:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you
Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esotericonline (talk • contribs) 08:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
All the best, Gwen Gale (talk) 11:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
One fingerpopping thing after another. It's late here, I'm going to bed. Tomorrow, will I be visiting "Deletion review"? -- Hoary (talk) 15:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I was checking out this article and immediately thought of you [5]. Hope you're doing well, take care. Postoak (talk) 23:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
There was already a hyperlink for Perry's Secret Hideout there so I just decided to create the page. Don't blame me.
-Poptarts12
Hello! =) I removed that sentence because the article nowhere says that the representative claimed "not a crash". The article implies the architecture does not crash. So it is misleading and the mention of difficulties is redundant. Thanks. --Sracl (talk) 05:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
It's still incorrect. The company spokes person did not say "not with a crash", Cnet says that. --Sracl (talk) 05:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Anyway its nice working with you =) --Sracl (talk) 05:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I would like to protest the deletion of the above article as an A7 - group speedy deletion. This was an article for a team in an apparently notable video game league. There are at least 12 other teams in the league with articles. I do not know if they would in general survive a mass AFD on them, and I'm running in my mind whether to file such an AFD myself. But I do think that membership in such a league is at least an assertion of notability, and thus a disqualifier for A7 speedy. The page was recreated after your deletion, and showed up on the short pages list, which is where I found it. After I cleaned up the new stub a bit, I noticed the deleted history, and thus here I am. So I'm asking that the deleted history be restored so that the nicer older version can be restored instead of the current bare bones stub. After that, I will need to come to a descision on whether to mass-AFD the whole lot of teams. - TexasAndroid (talk) 15:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Quoting a forum discussing you:
I think a lot of the people who edit Wikipedia, is like a lot of the people who edit DMOZ, are the kind of people who basically don't like commercial use of the internet. I have just seen comments from time to time and get the feeling that some people who volunteer to do that kind of job have a thing against those who are trying to make a living. So they will treat any commercial link as a kind of advert, to be removed.
In the case of Wikipedia, the editors are self-appointed. Anyone with a keyboard can edit the text. Moreover I think many Wikipedia pages have acquired 'protectors.' (Again, self-appointed.) In some cases they may be your competitors. It's often informative to read the Discussion and History pages associated with each entry.
Here is one example of your deletion galore:
Comparison_of_web_servers
All links to the open source software work, but only a few of the proprietary versions are working. Looking in the history, most of the proprietary versions have been deleted.
I can give you more examples.
I am not talking about the above article: Comparison_of_web_servers, but the links going to non existing articles from this page.
Fairness would be good. If open source software is included then other software should be included as well. It is important to educate the consumer to allow them to have choices. Just because a product is commercial, does not mean that it is advertisement if included in Wikipedia.
I have just joined the Anarchist Task Force, and I have had some problems with publishing of my Anarchist International Wikipedia page, see my sandbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anna_Quist/Anarchist_International for the present version/proposal. This page needs improvements to reach Wiki-consensus, and this should be a somewhat collective project to avoid a "COI"-template. As I am new to editing here on Wikipedia I need help with the page, I hope for your cooperation with this improvement. As an introduction to this cooperation, feel free to read this note on my talk page:
Any contribution, matter of fact criticism, to give input and advice, or even contribute to new sections, will be helpful, and is much appreciated. Please join in the project...
(Anna Quist (talk) 17:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC))
Hi Gwen,
Could you take a look at last edits on Deir Yassin massacre, Deir Yassin Battle, Deir Yassin massacre, Deir Yassin Battle, ...
Thank you. Ceedjee (talk) 06:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen. Thanks for your repeated help with vandalism of the Joe Kleon article. I appreciate your help in rewriting the article I originally worked on and have learned a lot about WIkipedia from watching experienced editors such as yourself. I am still at the beginning of the learning curve, but am enjoying WIkipedia, thanks partly to editors such as you.
My questsions concern someone who continues to put a notability tag on the article, even though you rewrote the article and removed the tag, stating that it is notable. Is there a way to solve this problem? This person is also adding an additional tag that I think was discussed and solved, during the article's deletion discussion page. Experienced editor Hoary said, in the deletion review, that anyone is allowed to edit this article. A month goes by, a simple addition was added, and again these tages are placed on the article. There is nothing malicious going on with my recent edit, just a recent addition of information, along with a few sources, from daily newspapers and magazines with wide circulation. The article does meet notability guidelines. I would suspect that it meets notability guidelines not only as a whole, but seperately, as a radio personality, recording engineer, and photographer. Are the few new sources added not acceptable? They are newspapers and magazines with extensive circulation. Please provide your thoughts on this. Thanks a lot! Clevelandmusic24 (talk) 12:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
That's interesting, because the last time I checked, I was not Joe Kleon. So, is Hoary wrong for saying ANYONE could edit the article? With all due respect, you should not accuse someone of something, without incontrovertible proof. What proof do you have that I am Joe Kleon? We share the same IP? Where are IPs used exclusively, by one person? I happen to know that Kleon was miles away, when my edits were made, working at a concert. Do I need to have him send this proof to someone? The fact that we share an IP does not make us the same person. We do not even live in the same house.
Before doing the recent edit on the Joe Kleon article, I read carefully Wikipedia pages on editing.
"Closeness to a subject does not mean you're incapable of being neutral." My edit was as neutral as the rest of the article, written by you, Ms. Gale. I made sure of that. Do you disagree? There are quite a few daily city newspapers and widely circulated magazines, which I used as sources, in my additions. The article contains sources are both primary and secondary, again meeting notability rules.
"Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment." I think this applies, as his work in many areas, fits this criteria. This is subjective. If you, as a sysop, say Kleon is notable, and duffbeerforme says he is not, what can happen to reach a conclusion on this matter, without resorting to an edit war?
"Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, and other productions." Kleon's recording production house and work with major rock artists satisfies that criteria. His photography has also been published in several notable newspapers, magazines, and music releases. He has had hundreds of articles published in Cleveland. His work in radio, both as an announcer and network announcer has been broadcast in more than half the U.S. Yes, that makes him notable as a photographer, journalist, recording engineer, and radio announcer.
Wikipedia says to recriut and help new members and to try to make improvements to an article, rather than just tag it, try to delete it, and more on. The two who have tagged it have not done this, or even tried to inquire about making the article better. There are no links to Kleon's studio, or any advertising whatsoever, for any of his services, in my edits, or in the article you wrote, Ms. Gale. I included a MySpace link, only because I have seen many Wikipedia pages where such a link is included and not contested. Both indebiz and duffbeerforme have written articles with far less sources and notability than Kleon. I find it hypocritical that they both want this article to be deleted and seem to have it in for tagging notability, when the subject clearly meets many criteria for notability.
So, to sum up, the article meets many facets of notability and has reliable sources. It's time those who just like to tag and degrade articles move on, or take steps to help the article. That is my opinion. I am not going to edit this article daily, or even monthly. I am not going to be abusive in my editing. Weeks ago, Indebiz tried to have a checkuser run and did not post any evidence I was using this account abusively, so the request was closed. Why bother requesting a checkuser, if there was no abuse? If I see something that fits this article and is within the rules of WIkipedia, I should be allowed to add it, as long as it fits WIkipedia rules. My only edit to this article does. Clevelandmusic24 (talk) 17:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I am asking you, as an experienced sysop, what can be done to stop what could become an edit war. You rewrote the article and removed a notability tag. I trust your opinion, being an experienced sysop. Should I just revert it every time a tag is added, because I do not agree with it? I do not want this to become an edit war and am asking your advice, since you obviously thought the subject was notable. How is a "verdict" reached, with an issue like this? Clevelandmusic24 (talk) 18:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I must have been mistaken when I concluded that when you rewrote the article and removed a notability tag, that you thought there was notability. Just so I understand you correctly, you rewrote an article and removed a notability tag on an article you thought was not notable? Clevelandmusic24 (talk) 18:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Five additional lines, supported by sources, including daily newspspers in Toledo, Canton, and Alliance, along with Cleveland Magazine, make the subject less notable? All these sources have their own Wikipedia pages and have extensive circulation. Another source added was Sport Karate Magazine, the officially sanctioned magazine from the National Blackbelt League, which has competitors around the world. Another was msn. I feil to see how these sources do anything but add notability. Can you please explain? I just do not understand.
The subject has multiple mentions in the Canton Repository. They wrote an article on him as a radio personality and have published his photography. The Blabbermouth website source, according to it's Wikipedia article, gets over a million hits a month. Brave Words Magazine is distributed in 23 countries, according to it's Wiki article. Kleon's mentions, both as a photographer and radio DJ are many, in both of these sources. Do a search and see. Just from these sources, his accomplishments have reached millions of people. FMQB is a radio trade publication and is distributed to stations across the United States. Add daily newspapers in Toledo (one of the country's top 100 newspapers, by circulation - 126,000), Alliance (circulation 14,000), Scene Magazine, (with a weekly distribution of over 100,000 copies), Cleveland Free Times, with a circulation of over 75,000 weekly), and Classic Rock Magazine, with a circulation of almost 70,000. I mean really. With all this, the subject STILL does not meet notability guidelines? I have seen so many articles without a percentage of these notable sources. Why are these articles allowed? I have read the notability guidelines over and over and this subject meets them. Can you please explain why you feel it does not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clevelandmusic24 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Can you please exaplin, using Wikipedia notability guidelines, why it is so "clear" that the topic is not notable? You must be basing your opinion on Wiki guidelines for notability, right?? The "same old worries" are from two people (not a large number, by any means), who IMO are upset that their votes for delete didn't result in the article being removed. They have both written articles with far less sources, on far less notable topics. Other, more experienced editors, like yourself and Hoary, changed your mind on this toppic's notability, during the AFD. Now that more reliable sources are added and the article is expanded a little, you are going to put it back in AfD? I wish I could say I understand. Can you at least explain why, in your opinion, this subject doesn't meet Wikipedia notability? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clevelandmusic24 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
There are much more than 'industry' blurbs, in this article. You know that. I am of the belief that you should not threaten to do something, just do it. Threatening is nothing but a sad attempt to try to assert power. Therefore, I have acted on your threat and nominated this article for deletion. Please vote to delete. I must say that your abuse of power, at least to me, is sickening. Radioinfoguy (talk) 04:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello Gwen- Just a note to tell you that as I know little about the above subject, I changed the caption only to improve its wording while maintaining the tone and meaning. I had the impression that the astronauts were having fun with the picture, and I presume they were in fact, though that may not be the case. There is another WP article which makes a reference to a source for the context in which the photo was taken and/or given, but I haven't read the source: Joseph_Francis_Shea#cite_ref-27. In any case, if we are not presenting the photo as having been taken in a humorous vein, I wouldn't have used the words strike a pose to describe them praying. I first saw the Apollo 1 article today, but you seem to be fairly active on it, so I'll defer to you on any further change to that caption. -Eric talk 17:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in f'ya; yes, the ogre Gwen Gale is written up here. -- Hoary (talk) 01:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I might have misread the date, GMA Philippines report states[6]: "Ex-Google employees to launch search engine ...The end result is Cuil, pronounced “cool." Backed by $33 million in venture capital, the search engine plans to begin processing requests for the first time Monday. For starters, Cuil’s search index spans 120 billion Web pages. Hence, Monday = August 5...." Apology if I misread or misinterpreted the GMA link. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 14:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
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--Florentino floro (talk) 15:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Gwen,
The article concerning energy healer Barbara Ann Brennan was deleted under the G11: Blatant Advertising policy.
I honestly do not recall in full detail the content of the article nor whether it was written in a style that seemed more like advertising than encyclopedic. Personally, I only made rather minor contributions to that page such as providing Barbara Brennan's birthdate and updating the geographical location of the Barbara Brennan School of Healing in Europe. However, I do feel that it is important for there to be an article on Barbara Brennan and her work in the field of energy medicine. Whence, I feel inclined to volunteer some of my time to re-write that article in a more professional style that is worthy of an encyclopedia. However, I would prefer not to have to do this from scratch. Despite the style in which the deleted article was, there was some useful information there that I would like to salvage, rewrite and then use for a new and improved article on Barbara Brennan. Would it be possible for you to provide me with an archive of the page as it existed just before you deleted it?
Kind regards, Henrik L Nordmark. --Henriknordmark (talk) 09:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Henrik L Nordmark.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Henriknordmark (talk • contribs) 08:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Wonderful, thank you for your help!--Henriknordmark (talk) 09:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Henrik L Nordmark
There is an ANI thread about you. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Stop removing valid sources from the Joe Kleon article. It is an abuse of power. Radioinfoguy (talk) 11:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I see you recently reverted an edit by User:Florentino floro. I thought you might be interested to know that there is an open RFC (here[7]) about his editing. It seems to me that many editors don't notice that there is a pattern of his not paying attention to the rest of the article he happens to be editing, your experience and comments would be welcome. maxsch (talk) 21:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen Gale. How's things going? I came across a very important site the goes into further detail of an article I watch over. It would help improve the article even more if the information is added and used to back up statements that need citation already in the article. see here Mcelite (talk) 23:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Gwen. Have a good day.Mcelite (talk) 22:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
When someone gets banned, they get listed at WP:BANNED. I've gone ahead and listed him there. — Rlevse • Talk • 08:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
No problem. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Yo Gwen, I happened across the above linked article at AfD and did a little sleuthing for sources. I turned up quite a bit, more than enough to write a decent verifiable article, but it's outside my sphere of competence and interest. I've added the references to the article but haven't attempted to tackle the OR. Judging from your comment in the AfD you seem to know a little more about the subject than I, so I was wondering if you'd care to take a second look at the article and see if it can be referenced. Mahalo, Skomorokh 13:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Why did you revert my edit? XxJoshuaxX (talk) 18:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Why you removed the lesbian image added by me? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 05:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi there! Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Constantian Society (2nd nomination) has just been relisted for a second time due to a lack of people offering an opinion. I listed Constantian Society for deletion after it was mentioned in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The George Nethercutt Foundation, which you commented on. It would be great if you could cast an eye over the Constantian Society article and deletion discussion, and offer an opinion, since it is in some ways a similar case. Cheers! --Stormie (talk) 00:04, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen, I noted that the University Christian Outreach article has been deleted. I'm not entirely sure about the "statement of notability" requirement - it's an established organization, and there were sources cited. Any thoughts? (I'm asking because I'm genuinely curious and want to do it correctly!) Also, is the deleted article archived anywhere? Because multiple users edited it, I don't have article as it was written when it was deleted. Thanks for your help- Paperclip123 (talk) 00:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
You are correct that the use of rollback then was not appropriate, and should have been done using undo or regular revert, but these edits hopefully show that Otolemur crassicaudatus realizes this. I see no cause for alarm for now. Acalamari 16:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Could I please have the contents of the article for a sandbox so when he does play in the Guinness Premiership then I can roll out the article.Londo06 17:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Gwen, would you mind taking another look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Leslie which you closed as no consensus. It may not be immediately clear, but I believe that all comments for keeping come from the same user having signed themselves a couple of different ways (as "Christa Driscoll" or User:Avestriel) or not at all (all IP comments). I'm not suggesting sockpuppetry, just a lack of understanding of process. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
You forgot the talk page. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 21:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I speedied this as an A7, then undid that as, if he has an MBE, doesn't that count as "The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for them." in WP:BIO and therefore notable ? I admit the article lacks any encyclopedic content, so if it's being deleted, wouldn't another category - such as lack of content be more appropriate ? I'm not questioning that this article is of dubious value, just interested in your reasoning on this sort of article :-) ..... CultureDrone (talk) 21:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
why did you deleted the article "DWYG"? Actually it's just a new radio station here in the Philippines! It's not a hoax, it's true! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ampkabayan06 (talk • contribs) 00:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
can i re-write the article "DWYG" w/out being deleted? please tell me, what will be the requirements for an article so it will not be considered a hoax. thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ampkabayan06 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
is it ok for you if you give me some examples? 'coz still i can't understand... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ampkabayan06 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
So sad to see angry band members making edits like this and this, instead of reading this and asking for a copy of the article for their userspace. Gwen Gale (talk) 03:36, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, it's me again, the editor of the article "DWYG" that was deleted recently. I'm here 'coz I just wanna ask you something. While I re-write the said article, I saw a notice above which indicates that I'm re-writing a deleted article which is said to be a hoax! Is this mean that i'm banned from re-writing it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.219.167 (talk) 09:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I didn't create the above article, but when you do NPP, you should at least take 2 seconds to do a quick Google Search .. the article sure shouldn't be PROD'd ... sure, it needed work, but a good editor TAGS it for improvement, and does NOT simply delete. BMW(drive) 23:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
It's funny. Because of an ameri-euro-centricity, most editors tend to focus on what defines "success" by western standards. I know, I was one of them for a long time. Deleting then PROTECTING an article based on Western Standards when it could not be looked at from that POV, then failing to allow a neutral editor who was 100% willing to CORRECT the article was truly the act of either a bad editor or at least an editor that was having bad moment. My statement above was very clearly not a personal attack - it was based on the old adage that things look different after a good night's sleep, and that by giving you the benefit of the doubt that you ARE a good editor, it was a recommendation to back away for a bit and look at things with a fresh set of eyes. Plus, check the emoticon. Don't get all persnickety on Wikipedia, you'll start taking it personally. BMW(drive) 10:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Please restore Federazione Italiana Carrom to User:Hpt lucky/Federazione Italiana Carrom (Hpt lucky being the principal author of most of the carrom articles) or to its original location. As you can probably tell from what's going on on his user page, a bunch of articles on verifiable information about national International Carrom Federation affiliates are subject to merge discussion (and one AFD, which should conclude with a "merge" result, and some prods which I've replaced with merge tags). The FIC article probably does not need to be an article by itself, but the information in it is easily verifiable, and the article should absolutely not have been speedied on the notability grounds that you cited, since a national-level sports governing body is notable by definition. I strongly suspect that the eventual consensus will be to merge all of this stuff in to the ICF article, and that's what I'm pushing for myself. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 00:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen i'm still a little puzzled as to why my article on the institute for advanced technology was deleted. I understand that you believe it to be advertising but it is no more advertising than the many other articles about research institutes, listed in Wikipedia. Some other research institutes are actually blatantly for-profit organisations who make mega-bucks through private research contracts. I should know. I've worked for several of them. It was my experiences with other NGOs etc which led me to find the Institute for Advanced Technology. They are a really good bunch of concerned scientists and engineers who actually love researching their fields and try to keep their institute afloat. How can i convince you?
Aeromantis (talk) 13:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)Aero
Its nothing to feel sorry about, and if I had not been a bigmouth two months ago there would have been no issue at all.
Although I intend to keep away from editing the Jesus myth hypothesis article, as I said, I extend you you the same request I made to Vassyana previously [8], because I think the poor condition of the article reflects the editorial problems that can be seen on the talk page. Be well. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 16:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I hadn't been directly that at you (or anybody) in particular. But it's a short line from labelling activities "disruptive" to somebody going "Where's my banhammer at?"
For what it's worth, I agree that edit summaries are helpful. But forced ones aren't. It's not worth an AN/I thread condemning someone over. Just let them fail an RfA and clew into it a bit better. WilyD 18:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. Yes, please do unprotect it now that there are "many eys" on it. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 18:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello Gwen
Can you state why you deleted this page - I'd hardly begun - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheriffspayne (talk • contribs) 21:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I could have used your logic during this fiasco. Thanks for weighing in on Joji Obara. Toddst1 (talk) 21:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure there's a reason to do this but could you let me know why a photo of a celebrity in the lede was removed. Banjeboi 04:01, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
This "Wikipedia" think has been around longer than I'd realized. -- Hoary (talk) 15:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Would you mind explaining why you indef blocked this user? Reading their unblock requests and the response to them it seems that they tweaked their signature a lot, but I assume there is more to it than that. Cheers TigerShark (talk) 22:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I mean, please take this to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#WP_seemingly_used_as_a_social_network. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen, you blocked User:207.194.108.93 for edit warring this morning. FYI, that user also edits from User:207.232.97.13 and continued warring from that IP for several hours after your block. Thanks. Mr Miles (talk) 22:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Great image on your User page BTW, I love the pre-raffs and their influences :) Mr Miles (talk) 23:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
For taking care of this. Enigma message 05:52, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Your blocks of S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R., Talon, Person, and SAMF show that, rather than help new members, you would rather push your power around and block them. Again and again, you throw Wiki policy out the window, just to suit your own need for power. Does it make you feel good? Thank God, other editors, with more common sense than you, have unblocked S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. You ned to have your admin status reviewed and revoked. You are becoming more of a detriment to the project every day. Maybe you need to take some time away from the project and reflect on how you have treated people lately. I am disgusted. 66.197.38.153 (talk) 17:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Why don't you just let it go, Joe Kleon. For Christ sake, aren't you embarrassed? You are in your 40's and you act like a 4-year-old. From what I can tell, the lady helped you out by creating a page for you even though you aren't particularly notable. Attempting to bombard Wiki, Youtube, Myspace, and any other available mediums in order to make yourself seem important, doesn't make you important. Stop stalking the lady and others for refusing to feed your narcissism. Get over it.Divided We Fall (talk) 23:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for blocking and removing wasteful and useless MySpace entries from various user pages. It has become a compounding issue that no one wants to take up -- although there is consensus towards blocking or removing userpages on accounts that are being used for mostly chatting or for non-article maintenance. I recalled a case where I removed a lot of images from one's userpage -- six images of yourself in various MySpace-y poses for someone who is underage was a little too much, yet I received flack from a variety of unexperienced editors.
Kudos for taking a stand, then defending your actions even as one administrator wheel warred and removed the blocks without consensus or discussion (discussion while people sleep is not what I call conductive). seicer | talk | contribs 02:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm wondering if you can explain this block in a little more detail. On its face, the idea of blocking users for "hogging the servers" by posting to talk, etc bothers me anyway. Of the user's ~400 edits, ~200 are to article space. This ratio isn't so terrible, even if the vast majority of these articles are related to Sega and other such video games. Looking at random edits he has made, he seems to be adding content and copyediting these articles, both of which are functions that are useful to the encyclopedia. I'm curious what harm you believe this editor is doing to warrant an indef block. Is there something in this user's history I'm missing? Oren0 (talk) 19:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
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I won't be watching your articles at all and hadn't planned on it. I don't think I made any mistakes, but as a group we admins canny botched how this was handled. Happily, we've also cleaned it all up fast as we could. I'm happy to see you may be taking something meaningful from all this, please try to source your contributions whenever/wherever you can though, your edits will stick hard if you do ;) Likewise with image policy, you can't put copyrighted images in your user space and there are tight bounds as to how they can be used in articles (never mind the Sonic images tend to be so cute). Please feel free to ask me for help whenever you like. All the best, Gwen Gale (talk) 21:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
"We've also cleaned it all up fast as we could?" WE? You had nothing to do with it, Gwen. Let's be honest. You were barely civil in the matter. Trying to take credit for the work of other editors (who cleaned up YOUR mess) is not so ethical. You think these kids don't know what went on? Looking at your edit history, you really do need to take some time away from the project. Your judgement has been clouded lately and other editors are wasting time, cleaning up your messes. 66.197.38.153 (talk) 00:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree with DividedWeFall; this behaviour is approaching stalking. From all I have seen and read of both the Kleon and "using Wikipedia as MySpace" issues, Gwen has acted properly according to both the policy and spirit of Wikipedia; she has been more than fair toward users guilty of vandalism, flagrant and repeated attempts to circumvent blocks and other disciplinary methods, and self-aggrandizement at the expense of Wikipedia's integrity. Those attacking her appear to be doing so as a form of spiteful "payback" because they either don't understand, or won't admit to, their culpability in terms of their harmful actions to the project. Rachel Summers (talk) 01:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi
I dont know why the Real Player Manager page was delete was for having a link i think is a good info can you please give me the details of what was wrong.
Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Filipeen99 (talk • contribs) 00:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Do you think there is anything that can be done? Or should I just go hide back under my rock?
Kww (talk) 01:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I am the original author of several articles on Wikipedia relating to music and art topics.
It has come to my attention that my article about the noted Bay Area a cappella group the EDLOS was deleted on June 7 of this year. As the article was truthful and accurate, and this group meets standards 1, 7, 9, and 12 for "notability," as mentioned in the article, I'm a little puzzled as to why it was tagged for deletion.
Perhaps you could enlighten me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigor (talk • contribs) 05:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I think Fclass decided to edit as an IP. Note the comments about Indian heritage and the edits to articles about racing. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 16:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I'm seeking the assistance of an administrator. User:Joyson Noel keeps inserting false information in Naguib Mahfouz and List of former Muslims using sources that do not back his allegations about Mahfouz being born into a Muslim family. He placed a vandalism warning on my talk page and I replied with my own warning asking him not to insert unsourced material. He replied here saying, among other things, "The fact that you decided to concentrate on deleting properly referenced facts such as these shows me as to what a biased and POV oriented person that you actually are." and "Also, please stop sending spiteful and outright ridiculous warnings of vandalism to me, if you dont know what the hell you are talking about. What you basically did was just copy and paste my warning. You are instead better off just sending them to yourself. At least, that would be something useful. On the other hand, if you have Obsessive-compulsive disorder, then i do sympathize. Please, continue sending me more nonsensical messages, although consulting a trained mental health professional might be advisable." 77.42.183.110 (talk) 17:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
For info, he wasn't reverting unsourced POV, he was repeatedly inserting a redlink to the See also section to make some kind of point. пﮟოьεԻ 57 18:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Here's what I saw on my watchlist today. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, ANI 'n AN. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
A later diff, yes. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your help and quick action... - Adolphus79 (talk) 23:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
There's an obvious sock of multiply blocked user TyrusThomas4lyf at 99.145.217.208 (talk · contribs · logs) and making the exact same edits as his previous socks, no talk page edits, no justifications, just edit warring across multiple articles to put in his POV (and false allegations of sockpuppetry [9]).
I bring it to you off-ANI because he's removing the ANI threads about him, as seen here [10] and 5-6 other times. I appreciate your help. Thanks! Dayewalker (talk) 03:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
See also: User talk:Kanabekobaton/Archive 1#April 2008
Not using edit summaries is not a blockable offense. Please unblock. -- Ned Scott 04:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
How does one inflame the situation when the party involved makes no reaction of any sort? There was no reply in the months headed into my opening of the AN. There was no reply during the several hours of discussion prior to the block, although hundreds of edits were made in that time. There has been no reply after the block was imposed, even though one of the usual editing periods has come and gone. That should say something in and of itself. DarkAudit (talk) 15:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I still don't agree with what has happened, but that's no excuse for how I acted. I should have stepped away from the situation sooner. My apologies. -- Ned Scott 03:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Looking for a logged on admin to help with Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Soccermeko(10th). He's gotten pretty active, reverting the rollbacks of his edits, and editing the sockpuppet report to try to remove his current IP from the notice.
Kww (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Oxymoron83 beat me to it, blocked. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I've lengthened it to 3 days. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Please do not delete the Federal Reporter articles. There truly hasn't been any consensus reached one way or the other whether Wikipedia should have the content. There's an ongoing AfD. And, the articles can be transwiki'd, which is different from Special:Export. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Gwen,
you wrote: "I'm planning on deleting these A7 as a batch in a few hours unless... Gwen Gale (talk) 18:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Openjurist
About the F.2d and F.3d articles that OpenJurist wrote.
Before you delete them , I wanted to propose that we move them to wikisource as you yourself have suggested and MZMcBride has as well.
"I do agree this content likely doesn't belong on Wikipedia (WP:NOT, WP:N) but would be so helpful on Wikisource. Gwen Gale (talk) 17:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)"
MZMcBride: "All of this is to say that perhaps Wikisource is the best place to contribute what you want to contribute."
Openjurist (talk) 19:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
---
I reviewed Wikisource and found that there are several thousand F.2d opinions: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=f.2d&go=Go
and several more thousand F.3d opinions http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=f.3d&go=Go
Openjurist (talk) 19:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
---Gwen, What do you think of this... There seems to be lots of discussion about noteworthyness... and you seem to be of the opinion that they should go to Wikisource. How about a compromise: Making it so the List of opinions from the Federal Reporter, Second Series (and Third Series - not yet created) stays on Wikipedia so that there will be ready access to the volumes through Wikiepdia's system and then - the Pages of Case names will be moved/redone on Wikisource. This way the cases are easy to access and easily found but they don't take up Wikipedia's resources. I could set up the pages onto Wikisource and then each of the pages that have been created already could get forwarded to Wikisource in the appropriate manner. Openjurist (talk) 20:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
---If you give us a little time ... we are working on making F.2d and F.3d the way you want it - please let us get our templates formatted for Wikisource and get the information up on their system and then I/we can make the appropriate changes here. I plan on working on it this weekend and early next week. Openjurist (talk) 20:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Seeing his comment made about half an hour after you made your comment, I doubt that GRC has plans to take the ANI thread to hearth: "(..) I am going to ignore this thread and any other nonsense they start (..)" [11]. I guess that we will see him again on ANI on a few months, with a very similar problem. --Enric Naval (talk) 02:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen this user LAUGH90 purposely lied about a source and changed the birthdate of Lil' Kim and a number of other details. This is the 2nd time this has occurred. It's not like he got information from an unreliable source he got the information from an unreliable source and put it down twice. Trying to make it seem like there were two different sources when it was the same source.Mcelite (talk) 03:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen. He did it again today...This time change the sources which are not reliable and has been consistent on doing this.Mcelite (talk) 01:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Well it's not the first time NNDB has messed up before. They also don't have an authorship. It's more of a fan website for celebrities.
Gwen - can you take a look at my talk page and Tobacco and render some advice? I've not ever done a CSD redirect move, but this looks like a potential candidate. In point of fact, I've avoided them because they seem like voodoo. I don't want to do the wrong thing here. Any advice is appreciated. I'm OK with doing it myself if I just know for sure what I'm doing; any reading matter you can point me to would be appreciated. (I'm not necessarily asking you to do anything other than teach me what I should be doing...or directing me at someone who can.) Thanks! Frank | talk 21:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Tobacco (disambiguation) is already where it should be so after the move. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Heh, I wasn't done with that last post. Ok then, 5 easy steps :)
How does that look? Gwen Gale (talk) 22:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gwen Gale at one point you blocked me. I understand why. I do try to make articles, but with school and everything it is hard. I don’t think I can make much articles on Wikipedia. I thank you for blocking me I understand blocking someone can be hard, and Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. Soul just is trying to make sure I am not blocked if he says anything mean he probable does not mean it. Is there some way do delete me from Wikipedia? If so please do.--Talon (talk) 21:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Your contribution to MuLinux article gave me new hope. Recently Wikipedia changed to battlefield. The editors today simply delete articles without trying to improve them. Keep up that good work. Megaribi (talk) 22:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Ta! Gwen Gale (talk) 22:13, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps if the article had been given a chance to assert the band's notability, which is, as far as I remember, quite adequately sourceable? --Rodhullandemu 22:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I've now spent a half hour looking into this topic, hoping to write an encyclopedic article for them myself. According to them (and I believe this), they were signed to Virgin records in about 1976 but didn't sell many records and were very unhappy with the oucome overall. Ever since, the band has had a somewhat shifting membership under a rather steadfast leader and seem to have done a couple of thousand (?) live shows mostly in the UK and western Europe as an R&B act. Through it all, one member has become notable through other projects. So far I've seen no reliable sources which assert they ever defined a local sound (in Liverpool or anywhere else). R&B is highly recognizeable and popular with live acts in many countries. Supercharge didn't "invent" R&B and making a living whilst playing live R&B is not notable. Meanwhile the article was wholly overtaken by IPs who clearly had a COI. I deleted the topic as an A7 because after skiving away the empty marketing jargon and all the bolded names of non-encyclopedic members, there were no assertions of importance or significance to be had. Lastly, most if not all of the sources I can find online are websites trying to sell the band or its recordings, or user-posting social networking and music sites. I would like to help but I have yet to find independent, meaningful coverage on them. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
[[:Image:Vase2r 800.jpg|thumb|left|I like this, sort of Celtic by the Mediterranean!]] Hi Gwen Gale, I was hoping to figure out for myself how to add the license information, and descriptions, to the images I down loaded on my user page [12], but have no idea. A little help would be much appreciated. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 17:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, since I'm not a admin, can you block i.p. address 75.60.226.37. So far, all this user has done is blank a page and replace content with vulgar language. thanks, --Master of Pies (talk) 17:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Think we are the point where talk page semi-protection for a few weeks is in order? Talk:Nicole Wray (edit | article | history | links | watch | logs) You'd have to hit the talk page for Nicole Wray discography, too.
Kww (talk) 21:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. 75.142.140.153 (talk) 02:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
For unblocking Malleus Faturom you must have balls of steel. I was sorely tempted to do the same myself. People will disagree, but I won't be one of them. Well done. Nev1 (talk) 18:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I have to say your page about CSD is one of the most informative and humorous pages about policy I have read on Wikipedia. I think I'm going to have to point people to your page when they get mad that I suggested their article for an speedy deletion. Whispering 05:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Bah, humbug!
Ahem, I mentersay: (i) A "topic" might mean "lepidoptery in the Malayan peninsula" and an editor exploring such a topic but not venturing beyond it would I think be welcome and anyway wouldn't be regarded as an "SPA". (ii) Whatever "topic" means -- even "the band me and my brother formed last night, with his girlfriend playing triangle" -- it's not the topic but the article that gets deleted. -- Hoary (talk) 03:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't know who Fclass is. I'm not related to him (or her) in any way. Auto Racing Fan (talk) 17:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Could you please take the sockpuppet thing off the userpage? I'm not Fclass and I have no idea who Fclass is. I've never met the person. Auto Racing Fan (talk) 20:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)