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Subject is a non-notable amateur filmmaker. Cleduc 00:31, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was speedy deleted. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:03, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Not sure if this is actually speediable, so I'm bringing it here. Vanity, unverifiable. Author has previously removed cleanup-importance tag. -- Jonel | Speak 00:51, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Antares33712 added ((vfd)) to this article on June 8th, but didn't complete the process. I am doing so now. --Canderson7 00:58, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
Definition of 'Cruft' (from Wikipedia:List of really, really, really stupid article ideas that you really, really, really should not create)
Keep. This article can be considered part of one of our WikiProjects. I believe there is a whole project devoted to pokemon. There are also many other types of pokemon animal articles. It would be unusual to delete this one and have all the others still on our database. I believe that you could have only deleted this article if there were no other articles about pokemon animals. Rentastrawberry 17:31, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
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Neologism, which appears to have been coined by the article creator. This is part of the article creator's campaign to remove all uses of the term "American" to refer to residents of the United States. He has made such stylistic changes to numerous articles, despite lack of consensus and repeated requests to desist. Firebug 01:23, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Not notable. Complete article reads: "A man from Kent, Washington who claims to have been assaulted by the on-stage entourage of rapper Snoop Doggy Dog" DS1953 01:42, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was SPEEDY DELETE as admitted neologism and possible attack. - Mgm|(talk) 08:27, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
Non-notable vanity page with dubious information. Hmib 02:18, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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I couldn't find any significant evidence that this site is important enough to justify our consideration. The redirect at IceKeyHunter is also within the purview of this VfD, but since it's a redirect I'm not going to list it in the VfD itself. Kelly Martin 02:27, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
If popularity and the overall need of the article, and not the information that is presented itself, is what matters, what happens if DHC becomes very popular? It's entirely possible for it to happen in the very near future.
If you must delete it, allow me to recreate it in the future when and if it meets your criteria. But, for now, I think keeping benefits me, as I won't have to recreate it in the future, and I can explain what DHC is simply by linking them to the article (I've had trouble with this in the past, as it is an unusual webcomic) and it's just easier in general.
You really have me beat with those Guidelines, I had no idea they existed. But I really hope you consider the work that was put in. You can't deny that Doghouse Comics has more information than some other webcomic pages, and that the site itself has potential.
In conclusion, while I don't think there is need to delete it, if you HAVE TO, allow me to create it again in the future when it meets your criteria. Keep in mind, if that's the case, why delete it in the first place? If the whole thing fails, I'll ask you to delete it now. For now, keep it.
(Sorry for the length, I tend to rant and repeat myself a lot when I argue). --IceKeyHunter 20:26, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
delete doghouse comics because they get 60 hits on google Yuckfoo 22:03, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Article reads: "This company is specialized in retrofitting Yakovlev Yak-18 aircraft." A Google search on the terms "Technovia and Yakovlev" yielded 119 results but as far as I could tell every single one was a Wikipedia mirror. I may be sticking my neck out here, but I say delete. DS1953 03:03, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Non-encyclopedic fan listing of toys. Better suited for a a fan page like the one linked to at the bottom, not here. Really detailed list, but... Found this page when looking at recent vandalism by the likely author of this page in eBay. Chairboy 03:05, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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an obvious vanity page... WB 03:18, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
Don't delete. This page was created for a little fun. Read for more information. Not a personal attack.
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Speedy Delete None notable person, only characterized by the fact that she was married to somebody famous.
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I'm actually rather sympathetic to the article, quite well documented/NPOV, but I just wanted to see what the community thinks, as it might as well be done now, not later. I'm actually voting Weak Keep. People voting here might want to look at A.S. Williams. -- Natalinasmpf 03:53, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Vanity, seems non-notable, although it seems encylopedic, so I'm slightly sympathetic to it. People voting here might want to look at Vindibudd. -- Natalinasmpf 03:58, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Non-notable. Delete. Hmib 04:07, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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nn forumcruft NatusRoma 04:10, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Vanity/non-notable/nonsense. -- Natalinasmpf 04:14, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was speedy deleted as recreation of "Anarchism (anti-state)" --cesarb 11:40, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yet another fork from User:Hogeye. See also Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anarchism (anti-state) and Anarchism (socialist) and Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anarchism (theory) --Xcali 05:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was speedy deleted as recreation of "Anarchism (socialist)" --cesarb 11:40, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yet another fork from User:Hogeye. See also Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anarchism (anti-state) and Anarchism (socialist) and Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anarchism (theory) --Xcali 05:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Only three Google hits for this term, and two of these both reference the book "Greek Wonder Tales" by Lucy M. J. Garnett. RickK 05:23, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Seems like a hoax. -- Natalinasmpf 14:03, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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After weeding out its own hits and what I believe are unrelated items (the original author's site and a Sega game), I've got about 1000 hits. Alexa says it's got a rank around 450,000. I'd say it's just another web site. --Xcali 05:32, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The result of the debate was keep. -- BD2412 talk July 4, 2005 01:03 (UTC)
~300 Google hits. Alexa rank 5,000,000+. I'd say it isn't notable. --Xcali 05:52, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Entry appears to meet definition of a "vanity page", given tone and content. Mostly anonymous edits, probably being maintained by the person in question. 24.91.173.75 05:50, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Two Google hits (both unrelated) for "Atlanta Torment", [9]. Unverifiable, Delete. JamesBurns 06:07, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Zero Google hits for "B.C. Navajo Nation" [11] and "Basketball Club Navajo Nation" [12]. Unverifiable, Delete. JamesBurns 06:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Redundant with Category:Exploding animals. Note that this was speedied and VFU'ed because it was considered an improper speedy. See the talk page for old discussion thereon. Radiant_>|< 09:16, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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With apologies to the anonymous author, I have doubts about the veracity of this article, as the statement that the barony was created in 1927 conflicts with the date given at http://hereditarytitles.com/Page67.htm.
It is also unclear to me what encyclopaedic value the names of 4 (3 presumably deceased) Englishmen who happened at different times to hold an hereditary title have, especially as the present policy of the British New Labour (Socialist) government is to abolish all such titles. Simon Cursitor 09:38, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Given the above, I am content to withdraw the nomination. On two points of philosophical contention, that a man's ancestor has done something notable does not, IMHO, render his descendants till the end of time notable. Indeed, I can see an argument that, unless they do something notable, they devalue their ancestor to the point where his/her notability may be smirched. The instance of the 7th earl of Lucan springs to mind. Secondly, anent Splash's point, I would recommend that he wait and see before being so certain that the titles will still be passed down. Once the House of Lords has been "reformed" (read abolished and replaced by a Senate), the hereditary titles will cease to have any function. Moreover it is a moot point as to whether English titles will be recognised in teh new United States of Europe (once Sr.Blair has had it explained to him that Prime Minister is elective not hereditary). --Simon Cursitor 06:25, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia is not a military slang database. sɪzlæk [ +t, +c ] 09:50, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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This seems like an advertisement. NymphadoraTonks 06:33, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Incorrect information, 'Gung Ho' is from the Chinese for "to work together". Dictionary.com proves this. This user has tampered with other pages including writing a full "biography" in my user page. Speedy deletion? Kinger414 06:39, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Tagged as a speedy as advertising, and granted the article does read like advertising. However, I'm submitting this to VFD instead because hospitals are often kept, and there does seem to be information here from which a proper article may be extracted. No vote. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:47, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Tagged for a speedy but appears to be a real place, so I'm listing it on VFD. Usually I would say "keep" without hesitation, but contained in the article is "Teens in Lawncrest spend their time hanging out and doing drugs." I am therefore a bit suspicious of the remaining content as well. No vote. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:55, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Tagged for a speedy as recreation of previously VFDed content. However the content of the original article was
Revision3 Studios is the company behind the videozines Systm (http://www.systm.org) and thebroken (http://www.thebroken.org). Kevin Rose, a former personality of TechTV (now G4 (television)) is one of the members of this company. Jay Adelson, former Chief Technology Officer (CTO) of Equinix, Inc. (http://www.equinix.com), was recently named chairman and CEO of Revision3 Studios.
(with some links which I have not added here) This article is much larger. However, I don't really think the company is notable, so I will say delete. The original VFD discussion is here. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:07, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Tagged for speedy deletion by an anonymous user with "fancruft" as the reason. That is not a speedy deletion criterion (and some would argue that it's not even a deletion criterion...) Unsure of whether this expression is notable enough to be included or maybe merged in to Ranma 1/2. No vote. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:11, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Tagged for speedy but not a candidate. I have done no research as to whether this passes WP:MUSIC, but there are several google hits, and I suspect that he may do. No vote for now. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Easily meets the standards outlined in WP:MUSIC -- Keep
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Tagged for a speedy with the reason "this is not an article or even a stub. Please try again with something that we can understand.". I think the article is about some trainyard in Toronto. Unsure of whether that is encyclopedic. No vote. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:20, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Tagged for speedy by an anon, but not a candidate. Some sort of scouting association. Unsure of notability. No vote. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:24, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Another page about another student. Googling suggests that this one really exists. He has deep thoughts, as carefully analyzed by one Ross Otto. Funnily enough, Google gives a grand number of zero hits for "Hector leano" "Ross Otto". Unverifiable. Let's wait till he's published some papers. -- Hoary 08:46, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)
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Was tagged as speedy, but found some google hits to suggest he might warrant inclusion at Asela Indika. May be notable blogger. Abstain. Mgm|(talk) 11:20, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Author offers no detail about the novels: Badlands redirects to the geological feature, and Badlands (movie) has a completely different storyline. Article is badly written, probably a hoax. Physchim62 12:38, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Unencyclopedic list. the wub "?/!" 13:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Vanity page. Page history contains some more useful material, but still borderline non-notable. Firien 13:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Also pointing out that the first two keep votes are from IPs who have provided the material for the page in question. --Firien 17:06, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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This isn't so much a Vote for Deletion as a request for euthanasia. This article serves no purpose, it has no context, if anyone wants to keep it they should clean it up themselves. Physchim62 13:07, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Made up holiday with a spam link. After patiently waiting for anything to refute this view, now it's time to delete this. Awolf002 13:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Is this absolutely necessary? Apart from being well over 200kb in size, it's just a (very long) table of the position of Mercury at various times over ten years. At best it's source material. Francs2000 | Talk 13:43, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Neologism, external link is to a student's BSc Computer Science project. the wub "?/!" 14:40, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Not notable. r3m0t talk 15:14, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Original research. Also, very much not maintainable. FuriousFreddy 15:26, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Non notable advertizing. Physchim62 15:29, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The best variation ("William Kephart") only gets about 300 hits on Google, and most of the top results are unrelated. I don't see how he is more notable than most other solders. Wikipedia is not a memorial. --Xcali 16:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia is not a memorial. Physchim62 16:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Obviously not a speedy. If it's related to Jango Fett, it's about Star Wars, but the name and contents don't help in determining if it's canon. Abstain. - Mgm|(talk) 16:41, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Inconsistent history; text from a previous vandal. Suspected junk. Firien 16:44, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Vanity. Well, unless a precocious teenage prodigy really has solved the Palestinian situation and I've just missed it. — P Ingerson (talk) 17:18, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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An article in Italian about the guitarist of a local band. The article, the website of the band and a Google search do not establish notability, in my opinion. Sietse 17:23, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Not notable, vanity. KFP 17:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Useless Iuy 17:32, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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copyvio of ISBN 0761120165. Straight deletion since this recipe should be in wikibooks if it was not using copyright material. Theo (Talk) 17:58, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Was tagged as speedy and sounds like vanity but no one is deleting it. They do have an entry at Allmusic guide. What should I do? (Abstain) - Mgm|(talk) 18:17, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Was tagged as speedy, but no one seems to delete it. I'd like to have some input from the general public to see what to do. I abstain. Mgm|(talk) 18:15, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
Comment. I moved the page as per correct name. Please respect actual and reputable sources, unless something happened overnight I don't know about, suddenly it has to be documented by a server in the West in order to qualify. -- Natalinasmpf 22:02, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Delete. Non-notable, malformed title, written partly in first person. Jyril 18:21, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Assistant location movie on an obscure movie. NN. silsor 18:45, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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One of User:Hogeye's 27 fork pages so that he could get his bias into wikipedia somewhere. It's a copy of another useless page, Anarchism vs. anarcho-capitalism. Can something be done about this user? --Tothebarricades 18:58, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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rebundant with Use of death penalty worldwide unsigned nomination by 500LL (talk · contribs)
The result was No Consensus. CitiCat ♫ 17:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
neologism - only sources UD Will (talk) 07:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Two three four articles on a tiny religion based in the San Fernando Valley and its founder. Not notable/promotion/vanity. silsor 19:12, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
This is B. Mcfarlane, a disciple of S.W.M.. It is correct, this is the computer from which myself and other followers often use. Before considering deletion, please contact me at {removed because of unprecedented exposure to this page} There are other followers who can testify in its defense. unsigned edit by 24.126.43.134 (talk · contribs)
This is S. Halifax, another follower. Please do not delete. We are a small but growing sect that desires exposure. unsigned edit by 24.126.43.134 (talk · contribs)
This is Halifax. I have taken back my previous assertion. We do not wish to advertise, but understand that Wikipedia is place to come for answers. If one hears talk of Sanjan on the street, this is a wonderful place to come for answers. More defense is on its way. Give us a chance, we are not looking for money, or even followers.
Further, please excuse earlier vandalism by this IP. Teenagers have access to this computer and have been reckless.
The exact pillars of thought are known only to followers, though we understand the concern and have and can continue to adjust the articles accordingly. We dont desire publicity. Halifax has access to this computer as well.
do not delete these pages. i am a follower of the religion of sanjan, it is real. do not be ignorant. please do not delete.
SANJAN IS REAL!!!! I BELIEVE!!!! DONT DELETE!!!!! unsigned edit by 64.60.54.131 (talk · contribs)
I find the comment about "check[ing] back with Wikipedia in 3900 years, 2010 years, and 1490 years" to be offensive and an insult to my intelligence, considering that, as far as I know, no human could possibly live this long. Perhaps you should save your jokes and sarcasm for amateur night at your local comedy club, or maybe even to impress some ladies at the pub. Otherwise, your apparently witty comments have no place in this serious discussion. In addition to this, I fail to see how the articles are non-encyclopedic, POV or advertorial. However, the articles are informational, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Wiki has any policy prohibiting information. unsigned edit by 69.231.58.181 (talk · contribs)
Alright, so far we know that Wikipedia is not a) a soapbox and b) a crystal ball. I might also point out that it is not c) a state of mind or d) a toaster. The list of what Wikipedia isn't could go on and on. Unfortunatley, what Wikipedia is not, is also not relevant to this conversation. Please define "noteworthy," because I know a great deal of people who consider Sanjan to be very noteworthy indeed. unsigned comment from 69.231.58.181 (talk · contribs)
i recieved this message in support from a user: "User talk:24.126.43.134 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
please save. i believe. i really believe." --Bndr McFarlane 22:28, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
it is this very animosity that christ recieved at the hands of the Pharisees. do some self-realization before making assumptions. Sanjan is spreading fast; even established underground hip hop artist McTimbo now looks to the skies. --24.126.43.134 23:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Delete vanity verging on nonsense (I will go their hell if I must). The point made about Christ not qualifying for an entry at the time he was preaching in the temple is an insightful one here. -Splash 02:13, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
Disagree with our posts, but to mock us on the order of a cartoon show is humiliating and a sacrilege. We are deeply offended by this disrespect.--24.126.43.134 02:59, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Non-notable band. "The Spores"+Biribauer gets 14 Google hits. Their website is pretty impenetrable, but it seems they've only played regionally, mostly in California, and their recordings seem to be self-produced.—Wahoofive (talk) 19:19, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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This is an advertisement for a likely non-notable band. As a quick googling shows, the text is lifted straight from the band's promotional biography. Since this is not noted in either the text or the talk, this probably a copyright violation as well. NTK 19:24, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Slang dictdef, bad title. This article has nothing to do with music; the only connection is its use in hip-hop and rap. Incidentally, the term is not rap-specific the way, say, "phat" or "bling" is: the use of the word "beef" as a slang term for "hostility" or "grudge" is pretty old (the OED gives a citation from 1889, and a Damon Runyon quote from 1932). The slang definition is already found at wiktionary:beef — Gwalla | Talk 19:30, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Non-notable team (6 Google hits for the string) in a (amateur?) league that I can't verify exists. --Xcali 19:58, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Seems like a test page to eventually create St Andrew's College. Mindmatrix 20:03, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Someone else marked this for VfD but it was never posted over here. Looks like teachercruft. No reason given, no vote. Kelly Martin 20:21, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Dictionary definition, short, orphan — Frecklefoot | Talk 20:32, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
Yorkshire, UK, slang adjective word for someone who feels the cold.
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Vanity page? Gibberish? Who knows?! 84.92.39.130 20:43, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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No point in disambiguating to pages which don't exist.—Wahoofive (talk) 20:45, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Incomprehensible gibberish. I gather she's an academic who likes researching Aristotle. Lovely. Notability is not even remotely indicated here. Scimitar 20:45, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Was tagged as speedy. 440 google hits ("Jason Newstead" Echobrain). No vote at this time. Wikibofh 20:56, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Speedy nominator said; "Patent Nonsense--looked this up on Google and can find nothing on this". I found several links on Active Worlds, but doubt it's notability. Please advise. Abstain. - Mgm|(talk) 21:26, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Primary source material. Apart from being badly titled and badly Wikified, this article is just an excerpt from the text of the Treaty of Versailles. The full text of the Treaty is already available elsewhere, but it could be posted to Wikisource if someone wanted to do it; it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. Russ Blau (talk) 21:29, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Notability, notability, notability. Also unverifiable. No Google hits for a political party generally indicates that we don't need an article on it. Scimitar 21:32, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Someone tagged this as a speedy because it's got the same name as recent vfd deleted content, but this text is IMO significantly different. I'm bringing it here to see what the community opinion is before acting. Please be sure to read the text and not just vote based on the previous VFD. - Mgm|(talk) 21:37, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
‘Human Thermodynamics’ - name choice antecedents:
1. Physical Chemistry – Gibbs [1876]
2. Non-Equilibrium Thermodynamics – Prigogine [1977]
3. Complex Systems Thermodynamics– Sychev [1986]
4. Ecosystem Thermodynamics – Schneider & Kay [1995]
5. Open Systems Thermodynamics – Schneider & Kay [1995]
6. Economic Behaviors Thermodynamics – Nordholm [1997]
7. Biophysical Chemistry – Cantor & Schimmel [1997]
8. Thermodynamic Evolutionary Theory – Gladyshev [1997]
9. Modern Thermodynamics – Prigogine [1998]
10. Equilibrium Supramolecular Thermodynamics – Gladyshev [2002]
11. Equilibrium Hierarchical Thermodynamics – Gladyshev [2002]
12. Local Supramolecular Thermodynamics – Gladyshev [2002]
13. Chemical Thermodynamics – Gladyshev [2002]
14. Macro Thermodynamics – Gladyshev [2002]
15. Hierarchical Thermodynamics of Heterogeneous Systems – Gladyshev [2002]
16. The Thermodynamics of Life – Schneider & Kay [2005]
17. The Thermodynamics of Biology – Schneider & Kay [2005]
18. Gradient-Based Thermodynamics – Schneider & Kay [2005]
19. The New Thermodynamics – Schneider & Kay [2005]
20. Human Thermodynamics – Thims [2002-2005]
Such semblance is needed so to bring unison and exactness to this barrage of present-day randomly-used verbiage and terminology (as shown above). Thank-you: BD2412. And I suppose all of the above researchers are duck-scientists? Regarding ‘duplication of material’, you are confusing ‘reproduction’ with honest efforts to conform with Wikipedia’s style protocol. Regarding ‘original research’, do twenty variations on the applications of thermodynamics to human life, as above, count as original or a branch? I feel like I’m battling a stream of robots in ‘attack’ mode? Is this true? --Wavesmikey 21:52, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The law that entropy always increases—the Second Law of Thermodynamics—holds, I think, the supreme position among the laws of Nature. If someone points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is in disagreement with Maxwell’s equation—then so much the worse for Maxwell’s equation. If it is found to be contradicted by observation—well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes. But if your theory is found to be against the Second Law of Thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation. Sir Arthur Eddington - English Astronomer [1882-1944]
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Non-notable webcomic, started this year. — Gwalla | Talk 21:37, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Non-notable webcomic. Started this year, has only 49 strips, Alexa rank 4,759,608, no other claims to notability made. — Gwalla | Talk 21:49, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Non-notable clip-art webcomic. Has only been in operation since April. — Gwalla | Talk 21:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Apparently a reference to a song of very limited notability. I would normally speedy this, but it has already been speedied and recreated by User:Kmweber before. Kmweber has also been vandalizing the articles for Michael J. Fox, Joan Rivers, and Elvis Presley, treating the contents of this song as if it were fact; he labels these edits as "spelling corrections": [21], [22], and [23]. Delete. DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:59, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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Not encyclopedic. And far, far too long. Probably a copyvio from a publication. — P Ingerson (talk) 22:01, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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I was about to edit this when I realized that "Yaguarete" seems to be Spanish for "Jaguar", and the article confirms this. In other words, it's duplicate of jaguar and I doubt it has any mergable information. Golbez 22:29, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
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delete - Not notable, low google count, most of the very few links into this site are from blogs(also according to google), low rank on alexa, wikipedia is not an index of the web, the site that this is a parody of is not on wikipedia so even a merge isn't viable -- pcrtalk 22:35, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Vanity, non-notable, appears to be a college student, see also Hector leano. --Etacar11 22:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Registered users whose history began significantly before this article's creation:
Attempt to count by Dragons flight June 28, 2005 21:33 (UTC)
Advertising, pseudoscience, and a hoax. Its certainly not notable either. It undermines the professionalism of Wikipedia, and would contribute to the ignorance of the masses by corporate propagation of snake oil material.Also, notice how half the terms it links to are red, probably signifying it doesn't have any empirical scientific concepts whatsoever? Its also not NPOV, and the presentation likes to present all its allegations as truth, rather than alleged evidence, even the most respected articles on quantum mechanics don't go to that extent (by noting paradoxes, and admitting their own flaws with the current model), which this article doesn't do. Very misleading presentation, and the introduction is skewed as well. Also, discounting entries marked as irrelevant by google itself, it only has 196 google hits. [24] If we let it stay on Wikipedia any longer its going to be extremely counter-productive and detrimental to Wikipedia and the world as a whole. Delete. Natalinasmpf 23:29, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ah yes, the noble mission... those restless children "at the head of the columns come to purify the future with the arrogance of youth. Nothing is as foolish as the righteousness of innocents With automatic weapons and a gospel of truth" - Justin Sullivan
Then you vote delete. Ironically, although you termed it fascism, you realise it seems the other way round. It has become a belief system, unless you back it up with unverifiable sources. You take things for granted, you realise that even Encylopedia Britannica would not accept your article, so who are you to condemn us? Idiocy? Is that a personal attack? Just because the original author wanted the article to be that way, doesn't mean the article is going to stay that way. The original article was so full of POV and unsupported statements, the text had to go - we may put it back when you help us NPOV it. Furthermore, no one "owns" an article", and how an article is shaped is decided by the community, not one person. Ironically, "accurate and cogent" information is not what your article is, considering how it conflicts with a whole host of accepted scientific theories, which I am sure most Wikipedians and scientists (such as WMC) will agree with me on this point. I'd advise you not to credit Wikipedia for that article you have on your own server - that's Helicoid's "brilliant prose", which has been rejected by the community unless its NPOV'ed. Not what any "Tom Dick and Harry" thinks it is? Well, we're a wiki, and by standard deviation we thus shape it into a good article, and not the word by ONE user, but by a community. -- Natalinasmpf 22:05, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
A final suppression of Aetherometry by five administrators at least, all admittedly ignorant of Aetherometry, all highly biased (the bias of power??). Interesting how they deconstructed Helicoid's text. There was nothing left of it in a click. Same with Helicoid who has been muzzled until the vote is over. Nothing left. What is the vote for? To give the appearance of democracy? What you call a vote on a submission that half-way through the vote is trashed and replaced? The triumph of the barbarians. Vote to Delete. And vote to Delete the 5 administrators for sheer POVness (or is it POVerty?). Where's the page for that? 209.29.93.57 23:12, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I was not aware that the Britannica was the Wikipedia standard. But is the standard of Britannica to declare something into a belief system "unless you back it up with unverifiable sources", as you wrote above? Kinda doubt it. Fishy, no? How much of a community encyclopedia is Wikipedia when 5 admins and a Chihuahua become judges of what is or not (1) factual (is the original submission factual? which is different from:is its content factual?), (2) peer-reviewed or peer-tested or not, (3) worthy of mention, (4) worthy of study, (5) a science, a quasi-science, or a falsification, intentional or not? A little humility on the part of admins in dealing with the situation would have been the smart move. Suppression, falsification of records (as in Talk), addition of scurrilous pages, muzzling ("each Wikipedian is supposed to act like an Administrator..." - a good joke when power is stacked by a very visible policy of suppression), destruction of texts, rush to judgement: not very smart. Not to mention the Wikipedia policy of removing gratuitous slander of third parties.209.29.93.57 23:51, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Its obviously impossible to have an intelligent article when every single pro-aetherometry fanatic and his or her acquaintances thinks he or she can substantiate a questionable theory about physics without having the slightest piece of evidence to cite....just look at the web pages of these "scientists". What a calamity! Its a brave new knowledge of the era founded by the Correas and all their snake oil vending! -- Natalinasmpf 09:19, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Of course its POV. Its a talk page comment. As to be on a "campaign to slander the Correas from the get go", I never heard of them until five days ago, and I simply question their credentials because of my OPINION that this theory is bunk. Oh, I'm afraid that by addressing me, you severely jumped to conclusions. Its not that I "don't have the slightest idea of what aetherometry is", because aetherometry is nonsense, as much nonsense as Sollog is. That is my opinion. I'm not producing it in the article, but I deserve the right to make such an opinion known on this talk page. Fanatic to be on a noble mission, I consider that a good thing. A religious devotion to an unsubstantiated theory, no. Criticise me because my attitude, but not because of my nationality, race or age, you bigot.-- Natalinasmpf 10:02, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In five days a young zealot mind was formed? No, it took at least 14 years for its unconscious to form, is that not so? Is Wikipedia the place for fanatics with a noble mission? I guess so.209.29.93.65 10:19, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What did you think Wikipedia was for? Profit? No. Its to provide an encylopedia to the world. A noble mission. Zealotry? Ironic, considering your lack of verifiable sources. To this date none of you (Helicoid, Patrick, you and all the people who registered and "arrived" days ago not to contribute to Wikipedia, but to push POV) - has provided a verifiable source. Unless you provide a verifiable source, all my statements are valid. Do you brand me with those who type in AOLer? Is that it? Talk about an open mind. -- Natalinasmpf 10:24, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Unfortunately, just because I have a POV on the issue doesn't mean I can't contribute. Nearly all Wikipedians have POV's with similar zealotry, probably even you, on any case, concerning any subject. I am not making a personal attack against any other Wikipedian: I reserve the right to criticise the theory if I wish, its perfectly legitimate. Its a point of view. That's the whole point. Everyone has a POV - but that's on the talk page. I did not bring this into the article space. As for "unwilligness to inform oneself" - I have duly informed myself, and I have viewed the advocacy websites. You can't assume "I haven't read the material" just because I disagree with you. It appears this is out of spite. Funny, "I have no place", but you want me to vote delete? Do make your mind. I am not changing my vote unless you provide me good reason to. -- Natalinasmpf 10:35, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Why are you so arrogant to presume I don't know the "ABC's of relativity"? As for closing the vote, it takes an entire week to decide. AS for "whether the entry stays or goes", that only happens if I happen to be a vote swinger (ie. its a close count), not because I commnand the votes. Who do you think YOU are fooling when you assert aetherometry has been substantiated? Obsessive character? Ironic. -- Natalinasmpf 11:00, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Woops - forgot the 4 tildas in the previous post. Please forgive me. 69.17.136.204 21:55, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Freudian slip? Do tell me - a book written by the Correas is not a third party source. Its a reference no doubt, but its part of the aetherometry advocates in itself, not checked by third party scientists. As for "producing energy from nothing" that's ironic, although it doesn't explicitly say so, by claiming your "philosophy from Tesla", you are indeed looking for some alternative new free energy source, that is dubious at best. A book isn't a scientific paper, either. Unless other scientists took it upon themselves to peer review it. And for the umpteenth time, you address me wrongly, but I guess lack of common sense and a sense of what science is leaves you perplexed. Experimental Aetherometry Volume 1, unless you can cite me page number, line number, and reviews by other scientific journals, page number and line number included - its not verifiable. You can't say, "oh, I have a source at so and so, so I don't need to cite" - ISDN number, page number, line number - and oh, a bookw written by the Correas does not count, because they do not cite third party sources. Do provide me with an experiment of something reproducible. In fact, instead of filling the article with nonsense on how you think the universe works, give us the outline of detailed, reproducible experiments, and then tell us how that is evidence. It would be most appreciated. The best thing about you aetherometry proponents is that you claim, "I have sources, do you really want me to cite them to you"? And then we request, yes, we want those sources cited, page number/line number - and you don't provide. You evade the question, and rather continue attacking us. Logical fallacy - maybe you don't have anything to provide. Of course, I want to say its nonsense. I'm not saying its nonsense on the article, so I am not violating anything. But since you're so uncivil, I see no reason why I should exercise caution either. -- Natalinasmpf 18:38, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Senseless drivel? Self-appointed editors? Oh you mean people like Helicoid right, who think they "own" and have "authority" over the article? Oh, see what a wiki is. Its "self-appointed", but given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow. Of course Helicoid and friends want to be the sole contributors to the article. -- Natalinasmpf 23:12, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Accomplishments? The problem is that whether they are accomplishments are not are contested in the first place. If you want to explain the accomplishments of the Correas, then do it neutrally. Do it with referenced sources. The original submission can still be found in the first revision of this article. How can it be "suppressed"? If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, do not submit it. The concept is that an article is never in a "static" state. It wasn't suppressed, it was improved. And sometimes improvement requires removal of unsubstantiated claims until they can be supported. As for "ha and shut up", it very much shows your desperation and sheer helplessness. -- Natalinasmpf 23:29, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The article itself has disappeared as of the following entry in its history log:
23:24, 24 Jun 2005 Karada (trimming right back to what, I hope, we can all agree on)
The page, however, continues to exist as 3 paragraphs. Now that the article has been disposed of (2 days ago) without the completed vote, I strongly recommend removing the page itself.
Natalinasmpf - Since you didn't get the Freudian slip, I'll give you your long-sought-after unverifiable source: If you go to the main library in the city of Tashkanapor on the planet Kandalor, you'll find all the sources you could dream of. How's that for 'unverifiable'? Just take my word. Guess you haven't yet figured out the function of peer review in our anarchistic world. Now, DELETE the whole page. 69.17.136.204 23:36, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Good reasons to keep? Well, since you all voted keep at the start, and have proven me how notably dangerous and how false, this kind of "science" is, I vote to keep to inform readers of the truth about aetherometry, and include scientific critique of it when I have time. Unless of course, you want to cooperate, make aetherometry look better, and generally treat other editors with respect, I could change all of that. I bet the millions of others that hit this site each day are "fools" as well, I guess. Fascism is the secretion of leftism? Pardon me, but it's rather the opposite, Bolsheivks and Mao - and all of them - they were "right-wingers" who purposely hijacked the communist ideology for their state capitalist gain. Mao Maos? That's your kind, not mine. Its the kind aetherometrists seem to be made out of, to denounce constructive edits as "suppression", while masking their own suppression of their opposition as "vandalism and ignorance". Truly platonic, I can see. Majories of administrators? Are you insinuating that the hundreds of thousands of contributors, millions if you count legitimate anonymous contributors are all part of a grand conspiracy? Unfortunately, it seems that's what aetherometry is in fact, how ironic. A plot and a scam to try to suck the unwitting reader into its plutocratic grasp. "Underage"? Unfortunately, age does not define validity of contribution. As for asserting your authority over the article, how fascist as well, you want it to be deleted, simply because YOU, as an individual, can't stand it, and you want to assert your pro-fascist ideology over everyone else, and condemn constructive editing, and project that would undermine your power based on ignorance. -- Natalinasmpf 23:58, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'd also advise you to know what "fascism" is. Fascism is when the corporations control the state, and wealth rules everything - a plutocracy - and seeing how your scamming of a corporation of aetherometry runs, and your attempts to silence valid opposition on a free encylopedia to your claims, you aetherometrists are hypocrites. State-capitalism like Bolshevism and Maoism which appears aetherometrists love so much, and tute as their "philosophy", and tries to poison the meaning of what anarchism and libertarian socialism is, is a form of fascism. Libertarian socialism is the antithesis of fascism. But then again, you people base your success on fanatical devotion and ignorance, don't you? -- Natalinasmpf 00:05, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Irony++, considering that I'm staunchly opposed to the authoritarian PAP. "Future dictator of Singapore"? As for you, "future successful snake oil vendor", I suppose? If anything, I discourage absolute human rule. -- Natalinasmpf 00:05, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• DELETE, DELETE, DELETE, DELETE. Natalinasmpf - this is the most shameful behavior I've ever seen on any forum. Disgraceful. Did someone say that the hope for this planet lies in its youth? Well then. Abandon hope all ye who enter here. 4.224.210.129
Its hardly disgraceful. Ironically - your behaviour, discriminating on the basis nothing having to do with character or the actual suject is sheer bigotry. Is it "shameful" if I reject something because its credibility has not been proven? -- Natalinasmpf 01:32, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
For all you peer-review worshippers
Abstract: "A recent U.S. Supreme Court decision and an analysis of the peer review system substantiate complaints about this fundamental aspect of scientific research. Far from filtering out junk science, peer review may be blocking the flow of innovation and corrupting public support of science."
Talk about fascism. Peer review is a way to regulate bias and prevent an abusive "authority" (ie. like the Church in the past) from springing up and taking assertion. What do you have to regulate bias then? Meditate on the manner? Appoint a dictator over science? Hmm? Note, I'm sure even aetherometrists agree that peer review is generally a good thing, since when was it not? I mean, you do share papers with each other, no? - Natalinasmpf 05:20, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)