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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 19, 2016.

Canadia (thing)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Redirect of no value at all - ambiguous, and appropriate to none of the entries on the DAB page. Narky Blert (talk) 23:43, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Jihyangmountaininfo

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The result of the discussion was delete. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The page was created when the article was originally translated from Korean. It is meaningless and can only cause confusion. It has not been around for very long. My Gussie (talk) 22:10, 19 September 2016 (UTC) (added) My Gussie (talk) 15:03, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List field

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 15:01, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This term seems to be referring to a subject called a "List Field" as referenced in this revision of Lists (jousting). However, this information seems to be absent from the target article, making these redirects misleading in their current state due to failing to lead the reader to information about the subject. Steel1943 (talk) 22:00, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Lists about Mr. Burns

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:00, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No such list of lists exists at the target article. However, this redirect has history as an article, but it doesn't look like it would survive an WP:AFD if it were an article. So, delete or restore article, then send to WP:AFD. Steel1943 (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Evry1 & Ery1

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:00, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These variations of the word are not listed at the target (a disambiguation page), so readers looking up these terms to find subjects with titles with these unique stylizations will be misled due to not finding any applicable subjects. Steel1943 (talk) 21:47, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is incorrect, MOS:ABBR applies to text in articles, not to redirects. Redirects can, but they do NOT need to be notable, they just need to be helpful in some way. (NB. In some cases, redirects which happen to be notable as well may be tagged with ((R with possibilities)).) Please review WP:REDIR for the purposes of redirects, and when they should be deleted or kept.
--Matthiaspaul (talk) 12:12, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding "Ery1" I'm not sure. If this really refers to a chemical compound, as pointed out above, we should retarget this to the corresponding article. If this is also used in SMS style short communication we might even need to disambiguate this abbreviation.
--Matthiaspaul (talk) 12:12, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Every man jack

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Since the redirect's target is a disambiguation page that isn't a match or a punctuation variation of the redirect, the redirect pointing there is misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 21:43, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is not my job to regurgitate stuff and would be CC-VIO if I did and OR and whatnot. My job is to take people where they want to go. "jack" is an interesting word that means pretty much anything, as you can see from the DAB at jack which is hardly complete. You have a bootjack, a steeplejack, a chimneyjack, a jackboot, a jack-of-all-trades, who ain't worth jack split, Jack Horner over there in the corner, a trolley jack, a lumberjack,, Monterey Jack, jack of diamonds, and every man jack. What other kinda jack you want? you have Jack Lemmon, Jack shit, Jack the bloke who played in those films sometimes, you remember, it was late and in black and white, Jack-o'-lantern (one of the best members of the O'Lantern family, would light the room up just by coming in).
Not to put too fine a point on it, before you want "every man jack", start to try to enumerate all the "jacks" you might mean. Once you have that infinte set, try to pare it down. When you have done so, add them to the DAB at Jack. Si Trew (talk) 21:01, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome back, Si. Sounds like you've got a good start on the everybody primary-topic article. ;-) I wanted to tell you that the new page-stats tool excludes bots by default, so whatever hits you see are from Real Users®. — Gorthian (talk) 08:26, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Kathak Dancing

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The result of the discussion was retarget. --BDD (talk) 14:59, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

retarget to Kathak - Prisencolin (talk) 21:24, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Annie Bonar Law

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 September 27#Annie Bonar Law

All About the Celebrity World

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:57, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article, so the connection is unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 19:19, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a book or film? I don't see it in the searches. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 03:14, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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All by Myself(Grey's Anatomy)

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:56, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely typo due to the lack of a space between the title and the disambiguator. Also, the version of this title with a space, All by Myself (Grey's Anatomy), already exists. Steel1943 (talk) 18:55, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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All about ... redirects

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:56, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading redirects since they are not alternate titles for their respective targets and since Wikipedia is a work in progress. Steel1943 (talk) 18:26, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All About Hawaii is a 1960s-later used alternate title for Thrum's Hawaiian Annual, no idea why I didn't capitalize the a. It's just a redirect so I'm not losing sleep either way.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:55, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kintetsubuffalo: Fair enough. I was a bit confused regarding that redirect anyways since it didn't target Hawaii. I'm going to withdraw that one and add the alternative title to the target. If I somehow fail to get around to that, feel free to update the target article with that information. (In other news, I'm having a bit of an issue finding a reference to prove this is an alternate title, though I would believe the connection to be true.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:01, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Kintetsubuffalo: Ah, it's on the image used on the article to identify the subject. I'll be adding the information to the article shortly. Steel1943 (talk) 19:11, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a book series called All About? It's a weird selection of topics. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 00:06, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There seems to be a Children's science DVD series called "All About". See, e.g., [5]. That means these shouldn't redirect to general topics, but should be redlinks waiting for someone to write an article about the DVDs. —hike395 (talk) 15:36, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
These mostly seem to be mistakes. Just delete them please. W Nowicki (talk) 22:54, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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All=Ireland Senior Hurling Final

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The result of the discussion was delete. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The "=" makes this an unlikely typo. Steel1943 (talk) 18:20, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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S truman

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a WP:PTM (with president precedent) since Harry S. Truman is never referred to by his middle + last name. -- Tavix (talk) 17:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:QXZ

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Cross-namespace redirect that has gone almost entirely unused since its creation in 2012 and does little but pollute the Wikipedia namespace. "QXZ" derives from Qxz, an alt account in 2007 of Gurch, who created the ad template images. The redirect came up for discussion in a poorly-attended RfD in 2013. In that its creator noted that it was little-used, which continues to be true, because the template has two more logical shortcuts. (Which are also both CNRs, but it seems too late to do anything about those.) I've pinged him/her for this but it seems unlikely we'll hear anything as he/she's not edited in 9 months.  — Scott talk 22:42, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 16:59, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Municipal Electricity Authority

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:54, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Suggesting deletion, since redirect was a result of the target page being created at the wrong title, which is pretty much an implausible misnomer. Paul_012 (talk) 19:12, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Interstate 13 in California

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 September 26#Interstate 13 in California

Scottish and Irish ale

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The result of the discussion was delete. WJBscribe (talk) 18:36, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XY. These topics are discussed in different places, at the target section and at Scotch ale. They aren't discussed together, and there's no clear reason why they should be. --BDD (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Scottish ale and Irish ale aren't the same thing. But neither are Scottish ale and Scotch ale. The Scottish and Irish ale article was originally like this. At 10 years distance I can't exactly recall why I made the move I did, unless at that time I didn't consider that a redirect would be left behind, and I thought I was replacing Scottish and Irish ale with Irish ale. There are two possible ways forward - one is that Scottish and Irish ale is restored to a disambiguation page, or it is deleted. There are so few pageviews (Scottish and Irish ale is such an unlikely search term) that I would support delete, but I wouldn't be averse to a disamb page with the targets being Beer in Scotland, Beer in Ireland. SilkTork ✔Tea time 16:56, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Probably they were discussed in the same place when you made it. What would be the difference between Scottish and Scotch ale? Is it that Scotch ale is a distinct style, whereas "Scottish ale" would be any ale from Scotland? --BDD (talk) 18:35, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Raymond Chen (Microsoft)

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Hit on

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 14:50, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As a Brit I was not even aware of the use of "hit on" in the sense of "flirting", and would only have recognised the first two senses here in the area of "have an idea" or "find out". Thus it certainly isn't an unambiguous synonym and probably doesn't need a redirect at all. : Noyster (talk), 15:40, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a common word. It's a common phrasal verb. WP:NOUN, if you please. I know in English there is no noun that cannot be verbed, but don't push it. We don't have put on or go over or get under or go through. Si Trew (talk) 21:46, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We do apparently have put on. My success rate so far is three out of four. give over, mind yourself, hang out, hang up, hang to, hang down, hang by, hang fire? Si Trew (talk) 21:48, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
put over, put up with, put out, put in, put again, WP:NOTDIC. Geddit? Come to? Come again? Come by? Come over? Si Trew (talk)
It does work if you believe as I do that since redirect titles are indistinguishable from article titles for a user searching, they should generally follow the same rules. Numerous exceptions, of course, to help people search, but when you type in a title in whatever way you search, you don't know straight away whether it's a redirect or the article proper, so they should if they can follow the same naming conventions. Si Trew (talk) 04:51, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:Association of International Wikipedians

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't linked from a lot of places, not sure what it is supposed to mean, there was never a "party" by such name to my knowledge. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 12:38, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Intermittent Inductive Automatic Train Stop From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Redirect page

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thanks to Tavix for the history merge. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible search term. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 10:03, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, I messed up the title when I first saved the page. There is no history worth saving. It should be obvious what happened so please don't go around leaving passive aggressive robo notes on my talk page.Sturmovik (talk) 14:13, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Google Germany

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:48, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Per the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_June_22#Google_Spain. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 08:22, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ouch. Delete as per the previous discussion, and at random I checked whether we had Google France, Google Hungary, Google Spain, Google Japan, which we don't, I agree with Gorthian that this is probably leading people up the wrong garten path. Si Trew (talk) 04:56, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Mongolian studies

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 September 26#Mongolian studies

Physical firewall

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Firewall. --BDD (talk) 14:47, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is unclear what "physical" refers to as it won't be physical if it refers to computer software anyway. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:19, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My argument is that many people have forgotten or never knew the etymology of the word, why it is called a "firewall" in the first place. That we have "virtual firewall" emphasises that, beause in the real world you actually have to build a wall with noncombustible materials (preferably not asbestos, thanks) and so the metaphorical sense is just now totally detached from the real one. I was initially with User:SilkTork about creating a DAB but the existing one is just fine, R it there. Si Trew (talk) 05:09, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To add salt to the fire, we don't have a computing metaphor for a fire safe (-> Safe#Fire-resistant safes), for example. That seems always to be a physical object that is there to stop fires getting at all your white fivers etc. Si Trew (talk) 05:24, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Physical firewall" is a term of art in computing, "fire safe" is not. Readers are served well by the hatnotes.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:56, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To add to why I think "delete" over "retarget" would probably be more helpful: at the present time, there is no section on Firewall dedicated to firewalls as a physical medium. If this redirect were retargeted there, readers would be unclear which subjects in the page are considered "physical" since they were not redirected to a section pointing them to that specific information. To compare this to a redirect that forwards the reader to a section on a disambiguation page where they would find the information they are looking for, see Law violation (err... See what it used to be: it previously targeted a section on Violation named "Law", but it seems that situation was changed back in May by BD2412.) Steel1943 (talk) 18:44, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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