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There are issues, subtle ones i admit, with the UK signs, they are just not quite correct. The images can be downloaded free of charge from the Department of Transport at this link http://www.dft.gov.uk/trafficsignsimages/index.php . They are free to use, provided that a statement is made saying they are crown copyright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.157.251 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 19 October 2010
Where can I download this file EU-section-with-GB.svg ? I would like to add some UK images. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Transportuk (talk • contribs) 10:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
The "derestriction" sign in the UK is Diagram 671. The graphic that was here does not exist in TSRGD, looks like 622.2 with the HGV symbol removed. This is IIRC the only sign of such a design, the only other restrictions that end in this fashion are zonal restrictions, and thus are contained within square panels (618.4, 640.5, 664, 666 for examples). The French sign is not a 100% perfect match, but it's close enough - there is no black outline on the actual sign (other than for illustrative purposes), but it's otherwise good. 92.27.136.232 (talk) 16:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Road signs comparison cannot be viewed at 1280 px width display. It'd be good to reduce size of sign pictures.VORON SPb (talk) 06:46, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to know what all these signs mean, but listing their meanings in the native languages only is somewhat counterproductive on the English Wikipedia. Can we get translations? I like the fact the native language is there to help facilitate learning, but the basic German and smattering of Italian I have isn't enough to decode all of these. RandyKaelber (talk) 19:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
If the intent is to compare the road signs side-by-side, they need to be done as 6 countries per row, not 7. It's throwing it off so it doesn't work. Fry1989 eh? 00:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
This is the same issue as above at Too wide page. I agree that it is a problem, but don't know what the best technical solution is. --JBH23 (talk) 16:10, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
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Two problems have already been noted above:
Also the signs are larger than they need to be. My radical redesign to address all these issues is illustrated below, for the first few rows.
Germany |
France |
United Kingdom |
Italy |
Spain |
Netherlands |
Belgium | |
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Stop and give way | |||||||
Give way to traffic on major road (yield) |
If there are some signs where the meaning differs significantly in some countries this could be noted using reference footnotes. With this design I think we could fit all the countries into a single table.
What do others think? Do you approve? -- Dr Greg talk 00:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
The UK pedestrian crossing sign in this table looks very different to its European counterparts - I argue this is because they are not representing the same thing. The blue European signs mark the crossing place, as done in the UK with Belisha beacons. The red warning sign shown in this table represents a warning that a crossing is coming up. Thoughts? GoldenTie (talk) 11:08, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
First of all, good work on the redesign. It is much better than the old one, and this actually looks like a decent article now.
Regarding the Norwegian border sign: it is not included in the free use signs provided by the Norwegian Public Roads Administration (here), nor is it provided on the site for Norwegian laws. Images do exist via Google, a good one currently here. There are different versions (e.g. Finnmark (Russia-Norway) and Pasvik (Russia-Finland-Norway), but the first one is the most typical/official version for comparison.
The image provided is generic, and I doubt the paper produced it or licensed it, although there is no information on that. There is an email address on the top of the site where you can inquire about it if needed. I believe it, as a public road sign and non-personal image, is liable to fair use in this article. Here is a Google search for “Norwegian border sign” if you want to look at alternatives. If anyone can upload and add the sign or any variation: thanks! --83.243.251.108 (talk) 19:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Some editors are trying to increase the size of the images from 40 pixels to 70 pixels. This makes the whole article far too wide, and unless you are viewing on a large screen means you have to scroll the image horizontally to see all the images. I believe 40 pixels is adequate to compare most signs. Some of the most recently added signs e.g. motorway direction signs may be difficult to view at 40 pixels, but I suggest the solution to that would be to remove them from the main table and display them separately in a different table. -- Dr Greg talk 14:39, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Almost all "Greek" warning signs and a couple of the regulatory ones are simply the... Swedish ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.202.58.123 (talk) 22:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Or it just represent artist/typography approximations from the sources? I'm from Russia and in the real life, for example, the "no left turn" sign has wider arrow, circular signs with red borders also have wider borders, blue signs use more saturated color etc. I guess any country uses only limited number of colors -- one red, one blue, one green. It's not such in this table. 88.147.212.106 (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
The sign shown in this row for the Russia really means "End of restrictions". It also cancels "No overtaking" and few other signs. There is specific "End of maximum speed limit" sign in the Russia looks like shown here for Norway or Finland. 88.147.212.106 (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
I have completed an overhaul of the comparisons table. I have maintained the previous style, however I have made several improvements.
Overall, this is a great improvement. Over time, I intend to add at least two new countries, as well as many more signs. My cleanup of the tables will make doing that easier for everyone. Fry1989 eh? 02:24, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
I've added some Danish signs, and in the process I read the legislation on the subject. I found it quite interesting, but don't know where in the article it would fit.
The regulation allows the use of other symbols, as long as the deviation is minor, and the sign conveys the same message.Bekendtgørelse om vejafmærkning § 1, sect. 2. The signs for wild and domestic animals (A 26 & A 27) are specifically allowed to feature other animals.Bekendtgørelse om vejafmærkning § 12, sect. A 26-27.
Thus most of the other red/white/black European signs could legally be used in Denmark.
Re references I noted the article is marked as being lacking in references/inline citations. Most of the Danish legislation is contained in the regulation cited above. What is the Wikipedia policy on multiple citations of the same source? Where is the best place for it?
Re low-flying aircraft I changed the use of File:Denmark_road_sign_A97.svg, which signals low-flying helicopters, as I thought it would be more appropriate to use File:Danish_warning_road_sign_low-flying_aircraft.svg, which conforms with the signs of other countries. I do appreciate the correction by Fry1989, who re-added the former, as “aircraft” also could be helicopters. I had only removed it, as I was unsure of the formatting. I apologise.
PeterMeyr (talk) 09:18, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
I read in the Finnish Red Cross magazine some months ago that the Red Cross Movement had made representation to the relevant authorities that they consider the use of the Red Cross symbol in hospital and first aid road signs to be a mistake and should be replaced with the white cross on green background (as in Ukraine). – Kaihsu (talk) 14:48, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
If I recall the article correctly: The emblems are actually protected with special meaning under the Geneva Conventions. It has been realized that the road sign conventions were a mistake. It just takes a long time to correct it. – Kaihsu (talk) 19:06, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
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Can we do Luxembourg? Jermbollano (talk) 23:52, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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@Fry1989: here is a "single instance" of the old style Irish no entry sign - admittedly in the Wild West. And I could supply another example, also near Cobh. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
I misread the edit history. The Euro standard no entry sign is in use. Use Google Streetview of Dublin to look at the junction of Church Lane, St Andrews St and Suffolk St also trying to enter Fade Street from South Great George's Street. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:10, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
i made some recent changes to traffic signs in Belguim and Ireland but they keep on being reverted as someone believes theyvare incorrect.
Here are my references for the changes:
Belgian traffic sign B15: official page of Belgian road Authority gives this sign and mentions the sign can be adjusted (in Dutch): http://www.wegcode.be/wetteksten/secties/kb/wegcode/250-art67
No entry sign in Ireland: http://www.dttas.ie/sites/default/files/publications/roads/english/traffic-signs-manual-2010/traffic-signs-manual-2010-chapter-5-regulatory-signs.pdf p17
Priority on Right in Ireland: http://www.rotr.ie/rules-of-the-road-eng.pdf: P122 If you are at a junction where the roads are of equal importance, the traffic on your right has right of way. You must let that traffic pass before moving on.
This the most recent revision (2013) the rule is still in effect.
If you have references to prove me wrong, pleas provide them in response Bigar (talk) 17:36, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Um... should the UK "flag" at the top of the list be changed because brexit? 152.26.197.32 (talk) 15:26, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
this was originally posted on 82.11.72.220's talk page and my own talk page, and refers to this edit
@82.11.72.220: I've just reverted your edit at Comparison of European road signs where you added the alternate spelling "kerb" in several places, by writing "kerb/curb". Our guideline on regional differences in English specifies that an article should choose one variety of English and use it consistently throughout, but not use several within the same article nor insert alternate spellings in the way that you did within the article's prose. If you think that the spelling in the article should be changed throughout, you should start a discussion on that article's talk page. Cheers. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
The Belgian border speed limit sign will need to be replaced by the new one. Since the 1st of january 2017 the standard maximum speed outside of the built-up-area in Flanders is now 70 km/h (in Wallonia it's still 90 km/h). I haven't seen the new road sign yet, nor in real life nor on the internet but I'm quite sure they will soon be replaced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frostpunk (talk • contribs) 11:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Servus, I removed File:Vorschriftszeichen 21a.svg because it's not a official sign according to Austrian law. The sign was created by a user. Austria uses this sign to warn about a roundabout.--213.47.191.75 (talk) 13:18, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
@ZH8000:, you need to explain why you are putting the wrong signs in wrong tables, not I for removing them. I have explained this in edit histories, and on my talk page, and you will not respond. File:CH-Hinweissignal-Vorwegweiser bei Kreisverkehrsplatz.svg IS NOT a warning sign. It indicates a roundabout is ahead and shows the available exits. That does not make it a warning sign. Other countries have indication signs like this, it does not make them warning signs. You are vandalising this article. Fry1989 eh? 17:15, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Any objection against a new section with end-of-prohibition signs?
This means signs like these:
If not, I'll start it with those signs that are already available in the country-specific articles (there are a lot). Sigur (talk) 19:10, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Sigur (talk) 23:27, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
yes I think this section needs to be brought back, the loading issue is not a big enough reason for it to be removed (and then why is it that this section had to be removed and not some other one instead?) LICA98 (talk) 04:12, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
I've now added a new section. I didn't put the signs concerning overtaking by lorries there, because they come down to an evident analogy in all countries. But I think that both the end-of-speed-limit sign and the general derestriction sign are need, even if it is only to point out the difference in meaning between the UK end-of-speed-limit ("national speed limit") sign and the (e.g.) Swiss general derestriction sign (which look exactly the same). There also are some differences between and-of-zone signs, which make that comparison worthwile. Sigur (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
I would like to reiterate my suggestion above: Shouldn't we have a much shorter page with the most important signs and then specific pages for various categories of signs with as many signs as possible? Sigur (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
The description of this sign says "This sign is not official but is used at the entries to the Dublin Port Tunnel". Does anybody know whether it is used elsewhere in Ireland? At the entry of the Dublin Port Tunnel, it's an illustration of a prohibition that is also spelled out in plain English (I checked on Google Street View). If the sign can't be found elsewhere, I would tend towards deleting it. Sigur (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
This article is ridiculously large making it slow to load and even slower to edit.
How would people feel if the various sections of this article were hived off into sub-articles, with this providing an overview and linking the sub-articles for those that wish to look at the pictures? DocFergus (talk) 12:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Currently the footnote states that the No Entry sign may only be used if there are no exceptions. That appears to no longer be the case. Fry1989 eh? 00:53, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Currently, the page makes no distinction between Bike only and bike lane mandatory. In some places the signs are indeed the same (e.g. Switzerland) but in others (particularly France and the Netherlands) they are not. Generally a square sign indicates bikes only while a circular one indicates bikes must use that lane as seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikeway_and_legislation Swissnetizen (talk) 17:12, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
If there are no objections, I’ll make the following changes:
--Swissnetizen (talk) 15:05, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
As per the new national norm "VL6" from May 2018 the Slovak Republic has changed its national road signs. This is a Slovak Wikipedia page with pictures of the new road signs: https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoznam_dopravn%C3%BDch_zna%C4%8Diek_na_Slovensku#Zvisl%C3%A9_dopravn%C3%A9_zna%C4%8Dky_(pod%C4%BEa_nov%C3%BDch_VL6.1_-_M%C3%A1j.2018) Signs have the new TERN typeface as the ones in this comparison still have the old Universal Grotesk typeface. They closely resemble German road signs. Thankyou for your co-operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Outererror (talk • contribs) 15:52, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Some countries like czech republic, sweden, germany, have in sections Checkpoints shown that they use customs sign, because these countries are in Schengen Area, they should have at least some note, or marked "NOT USED" (In red.) instead of showing a sign. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luky0805 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I propose:
I believe 'Shared bicycles and pedestrians only' signs normally look like the following:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_the_United_Kingdom#/media/File:UK_traffic_sign_956.svg
And 'Segregated bicycles and pedestrians only' signs look like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_the_United_Kingdom#/media/File:UK_traffic_sign_957.svg
--Wkmdjay (talk) 15:17, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm the validity of the edit [1] regarding the use of Verdana on signs in Hungary and in Bosnia and Herzegovina? The changes cite no sources, among others. I have not been able to confirm the contents of the change, but am not much of an expert in the field.
The same user (contributions: [2]) also changed the Template:Traffic signs for the same countries (as well as for Slovenia and Serbia), also without citing sources ([3]).
Thank you! Pepicek (talk) 09:46, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Any objections to a new section with chevron signs? I know these signs are common in Ireland and the UK used to indicate a sharp bend in the road. I found similar signs in other countries pages, although I thought these signs were more common throughout Europe than Wikipedia would suggest. I've included the signs I could find in a table below. Please let me know if you aware of examples from other countries.
Austria |
Belgium |
Czechia |
Denmark |
Estonia |
Finland |
France |
Germany |
Greece |
Hungary |
Iceland |
Ireland |
Italy |
Luxembourg |
Moldova |
Netherlands |
Norway |
Poland |
Portugal |
Romania |
Russia Belarus |
Slovakia |
Slovenia |
Spain |
Sweden |
Switzerland Liechtenstein |
Turkey |
Ukraine |
UK | |
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Chevron yada yada | or |
or |
Boardwalk.Koi (talk) 17:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Updated Boardwalk.Koi (talk) 15:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
So apparently some bonehead removed Åland road signs, despite it being an informative column. I tried to revert the edit, but wikipedia stated "it must be done manually". Does any one know how to retrieve the Åland column in a more convenient way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unofficialwikicorrector (talk • contribs) 03:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
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A note refering to Belgian motorway signs claimed that "signs to motorways are green on white, whereas the directional signs on motorways are blue on white". However the table itself showed the opposite (white on green, not green on white), so I changed the note to match the table. But I also couldn't find a source or even an example that shows a difference between on and to motorway signs, and wasn't sure if I should've removed the note altogether, so I've added a request for citation. Feel free to revert my edit or delete the note entirely if neccesary. Thanks! NeutronStop (talk) 20:25, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I have redone the tables (except for built-up areas and checkpoint control), and made it easier to edit. Where countries do not use a sign, the box has been greyed out (instead of the hundreds of red "Not Used"). Where a sign is used but missing, the box has been left blank. It is also no longer necessary to insert <br> between multiple images to keep them vertically aligned. I have also attempted to group like-signs together, therefore the order of some signs has changed. For example the "Stop ahead" and "Give way ahead" signs have been moved to the priority section, since a majority of countries consider them to be a form of priority sign instead of warning sign. If there are any questions or feedback, that will be welcome. Fry1989 eh? 20:10, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
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@Llama jim. Clapped: There really is only a need to show one, maybe two examples with a nearly identical message. The point of the derestriction section is to show how various countries sign the end of various restrictions. Derestricting the overtaking ban, overtaking ban for goods vehicles, and the ban on honking are all essentially the same. Take the Czech Republic for example, with File:B21bcr.jpg, File:B22bcr.jpg, and File:B23bcr.jpg. There is no difference in design, in essence "if you've seen one, you've seen them all", and the silhouettes for the goods vehicles version and the honking version can be discerned from their red circle equivalents. The other issue is that as the page becomes more and more bloated, it is more and more difficult for readers around the world to load the page and read it. This is why I consider those two sections as unnecessary. Fry1989 eh? 21:09, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Under the Different typefaces in texts section, Cyprus is said to use the Transport font. However, I see no evidence that that is the case? The vast majority of signs I have seen use Arial and Helvetica (bold, narrow and light variants used inconsistently). EthanL13 (talk) 14:01, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. No rationale provided by the nominator to move against consistency. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 05:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Comparison of European road signs → Comparison of European traffic signs – Unlike the other two pages the word traffic sign shall be needed and NOT: road sign. 2600:1700:6180:6290:60CB:CA76:257F:41DC (talk) 01:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Some of the pictures are just links to the .pngs rather than showing the image on the screen. 132.170.34.224 (talk) 11:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
There are some very rare roads in the UK that qualify as what this article calls "expressways" or "limited-access roads"; non-motorway special roads like:
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The colour, shape and text style of expressways in France is the exact same than on primary routes ; while the article shows them like it was the same as motorways. Must be corrected, but I don't know how to do that. Luna Lyons (talk) 14:53, 22 September 2023 (UTC)