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Any knowledge of who holds the most number of effective nationalities? What would be the burocratically feasible limit of nationalities? If someone can solve this questions and proof they are solved... They would make a nice addendum to this page... Undead Herle King (talk) 05:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed the following dubious assertion:
The Republic of Ireland is a unitary state permitting dual citizenship; Germany is Federal republic not permitting it. Joestynes
Whilt what JAJ says is undoubtedly true, that doesn't negate the comment made above about the fact that the assertion in the article about unitary states and federal states being dubious.
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Germany: Current German nationality law (1999, eff. 2000) revised Germany's stance on dual nationality. It is anyway affected by Allied Control Council (Kommandatura), by its Law No. 1 of 20 September 1945 abrogating Nazi racial laws. To this day, Jews with German grandparents, given the right facts, can obtain a German (or, for that matter, an Austrian) passport. Also: one can keep German nationality upon naturalization in the USA if one can show an economic advantage: typically the discriminatory effect of estate taxation where there is a foreign spouse (QDOT, etc.) It is in such cases that "permission" is granted. There remains a "racial" connection to German law on dual nationality since with a German parent rights seem to be greater. German nationality law#Dual citizenship
Spain: The relationship between Spanish nationality and PR citizenship (before the reader contests that word, read on) is (or was, everybody impacted is now dead) was controlled by the Treaty of Paris under which PR was ceded to the USA. Certain persons could and did retain Spanish, and did not get American, citizenship by election. There is an interesting question on the difference between Constitutional (i.e. 14th Amendment citizenship -- reflecting the fact that "citizenship" in the USA is not after all "nationality" but "allegiance" (as in Pledge of) because taken from English Common Law). Persons born or naturalized in US territories or born abroad to US citizens (assuming in the latter case relevant US residence/presence as the case may be) are "statutory" and not "constitutional" citizens. The significance is this: if Puerto Rico gains independence, can they be deprived of US citizenship? We could look to the Philippines except that Filipinos were never citizens, they were protégés; or the status of Native Americans before they were made citizens (but their status was different and supposedly protected by the Jay Treaty and other laws). But PR citizens are still different from the rest. Under the Organic Act and other law, if resident in PR they are not subject to US income tax or estate duty on PR income/assets. They pay a mirror tax. That is different from VI and other territorial citizens and noncitizen nationals. (I have checked this point with the IRS PR specialist in Washington DC.)
The cases of individuals resident on US territory in a situation of cession is subject to treaty protection. See: Treaty to Resolve Pending Boundary Differences and Maintain the Rio Grande and Colorado River as the International Boundary, 23 Nov. 1970, TIAS 7313, 23 UST 371, Art. VI, § B. A discussion of treaties ceding U.S. territory appears in the dissenting opinion of MacKinnon, J. in Edwards v. Carter, 580 F.2d 1055; 189 U.S. App. D.C. 1 (1978).
I'm too slothful to change Wiki articles written by others, but editors may find the above useful. Andygx (talk) 08:58, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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Some of this page seemse to be a copyright infringement from Multiple citizenship. That site explicitly says it's for Non Commercial use, which I think excludes its being here unless the copyright owner says otherwise. Could someone else please do what you're meant to? Felix the Cassowary 11:30, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
--- I deleted some information that I felt was irrelevant and redundant, namely the subjective statements about restrictive citizenship policies in Australia. Since the 2002 overhaul, Australia explicitly allows and recognizes plural citizenship. Also the middle section appears lifted and one paragraph was a near copy of another paragraph. I hope I don't offend the original author in my edits. I think this article needs furthur clean up. Also, there should be sources to the "Incidence" section. K 14:30 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It's also worth noting that in various circumstances, dual/multiple citizenship was perfectly legal and accepted under Australian law even before the 2002 overhaul referred to above, so these subjective statements about restrictive citizenship policies in Australia are well removed. 2 April 2006
PLEASE remove or reformulate? I doubt that: "Spain has dual citizenship treaties with [...] Puerto Rico[not in citation given]", since Puerto Rico, due to its political status regarding the US has no soverignity in such matters and there is no such thing as a Puertorican citizenship, Puertoricans are holders of Us citizenship. 89.247.39.171 (talk) 18:56, 8 September 2012 (UTC)Luna
According to this article: Greek nationality law Greece has dual citizenship. The map needs to be updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.74.243.172 (talk • contribs)
Please, change the first map. Greece is wrongly painted red, since the law has been changed and dual citizenship is permitted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.74.243.172 (talk • contribs)
"Example 17: A Jewish person, or a person with at least one Jewish grandparent, or a person who converts to Judaism, who makes aliyah to Israel will be an Israeli citizen in addition to their original citizenship, by operation of the Law of Return. For example, a Jewish person born in South Africa to British parents will be South African by birth, British by descent and Israeli on aliyah. Israeli citizenship is bestowed three months after aliyah and a full Israeli passport is issued after one year's residency."
Per the Rufeisen decision, this may not apply to someone who has converted from Judaism to another religion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.10.198.120 (talk) 23:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Can we add a list of countries which don't allow multiple citizenship? I know of China, Japan, Belarus. What others are there?
I agree with the original poster that we should create a list of those countries that do and do not support dual or multi citizenship. Any other takers?--Saintlink 03:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Pardon me, I should have clarified a bit better. I meant to say "create a list of all the countries and their various dual citizenship policies." As the list would get to be quite long, I suggest we categorize it on another page. We would just list all the countries in alphabetical order and then create each article as we go. Does that sound agreeable?--Saintlink 14:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
This doesn't make sense. A country cannot by itself "not permit" multiple citizenship, because multiple citizenship arises as a result of the laws of multiple countries. A country can only control whether someone is that country's citizen; it has no control over who is another country's citizen. Therefore, if a country wishes for it to not be possible that a person holds that country's citizenship at the same time as another country's, it must write the rules for its nationality law such that, when a person has another country's citizenship, they cannot have that country's citizenship. It must cover all the cases, e.g. even for babies at birth. --24.130.148.132 (talk) 08:52, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
This issue ("permitting" or not multiple nationality) and indeed the causes of multiple nationality are so complex that "listing" is almost irrelevant. A number of countries make it difficult, virtually impossible, to retain their nationality along with another after majority. Japan and the Baltic states come to mind. (But see http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/analytics/?doc=86849 , anything can change in a few minutes.) A number of others have racial or religious issues: Liberia and Israel come to mind. Many make it possible for descendants at least to the third (grandchild) generation to acquire the nationality of the grandparent: Switzerland, Ireland perhaps Italy. Spain has just produced a bill to allow Sephardic Jews expedited naturalisation. Greece's notorious (and now abrogated) Article 19 used to facilitate denaturalisation of Muslims and Slavs. Otherwise Greek nationality was difficult to renounce (and during the Vietnam war not a few Greek-Americans went there, got drafted, and avoided the US draft (although I've never been able to find a NATO treaty or legal provision preventing the two countries from drafting the same person). For what it's worth, my PhD dissertation was on this subject. And it's hard for me to imagine anyone doing a fair job of explaining it in just a few pages. Andygx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:37, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
I reverted the link addition again, because I feel it is more in line with Wikipedia policy. I think this is getting close to the "excessive lists can dwarf articles" point. When do we stop adding countries? This is not the place for this list IMHO. Some of these links don't even talk about dual citizenship per se. Of course information is good, but Wikipedia is not set up as a search engine. If someone wants information on a particular country, they can then go the country's website directly.
This is my feeling anyway. If the community thinks these links should be here, that's fine with me. They were only added recently. --PhilipO 16:24, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
This section states that 'state citizenship' is obtained by becomeing resident of the state. Does this apply to non-US citizens? Ie. Is a Mexican who is legally resident in Texas a citizen of Texas, but not a US citizen? Or should we qualify the statement by saying that "A US citizen obtains a state citizenship by becoming resident there." Seabhcán 09:45, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
"State citizenship" of a US state equates to "domicile". Domicile under US state law is not the same as that under English (or other legal systems derived from English law). In re Estate of Jones (a man who died aboard the Lusitania) is the classical comparison studied in American conflict-of-law courses http://www.uniset.ca/other/css/182NW227.html There are issues about who can acquire domicile and it seems that legal residence in accordance with US immigration law is not required. Andygx (talk) 17:28, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Brazil does allow dual citizenship; the map says it does not. Anyone mind changing it?
Some sources: http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/CIB/2000-01/01cib05.htm (table 1) http://www.capriotti.com/dual.htm http://www.uscitizenship.info/citizenship-library-dual.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan1113 (talk • contribs)
Netherlands allows multiple citizenship as well...
Could I please get a source on the part about is a US citizen living in the UK 5 yrs automatically gets dual citizenship.Jim Bart 21:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
The term "recognise" is potentially ambiguous in a discussion of multiple citizenship. Some (probably most) people will be thinking of whether a given country allows its citizens to hold additional citizenships — but others will assume the term refers to whether a given country acknowledges (or cares about) the fact that one of its citizens might also have another citizenship (i.e., whether or not a country gives any different status to one of its citizens if he/she also has citizenship in some other country).
In order to sidestep this potential for confusion, I would recommend that most (possibly all) uses of "recognize" in this article should be replaced with "allow" or "permit" — since that's what is really being discussed (does a given country allow one of its citizens to also be a citizen of another country?).
Admittedly, I have read of a few cases where the other kind of "recognition" of multiple citizenship exists — e.g., treaties where Country X agrees not to assert its own citizenship claims against one of its expatriates who enters on a passport from Country Y — but that's a very different matter.
Richwales 18:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
This whole area of countries "recognizing" foreign citizenships or "allowing" their citizens to hold foreign citizenships needs a look. I don't have legal training, but my understanding is that countries may be able (1) to administratively strip their citizenship from someone who holds it and/or (2) to punish persons (e.g., citizenship restriction violators) who they feel need punishment where they have the ability to impose punishment (e.g., the person has local assets which can be seized, is physically accessible for imprisonment, etc.), but not much else. Also, (unrelated) this article seems to use the terms citizen and national somewhat interchangeably. My understanding is that these terms are not interchangeable, and that their definitions may vary from country to country. -- Boracay Bill 02:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I have reinstated slightly modified text that was objected to on the basis of the para containing a tautology. I disagree with the assertion that "permitting" and "not forbidding" constitutes a tautology; this is not a core tenet in some legal systems, and they are separate concepts. To give a specific example, parking may be permitted but regulated. That said, I've substituted the word recognized to make clear the distinction. The issue remains because in many cases (including this page), in popular discourse discussion of multiple citizenship often refers to "Country X allows/permits/recognizes" multiple citizenship where there may be no such legal concept.--Gregalton 07:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with many of the comments, which reflect the complexity of the issue. Indeed there seems to be a gradient of how another citizenship is treated; on a descending scale of permissiveness: recognize (the citizen can be treated as a citizen of another country if they so desire), allow =~ tolerate =~ ignore, and forbid. 'Forbid' may also mean a number of things. Similar ideas were expressed below under "Edit the map", and some of this could be elaborated upon in the text if the senior contributors don't object. I've tried to clarify a few points by editing the introductory paragraphs. I replaced the example of Singapore and Japan, from which it is not clear of what exactly those countries do, with more specific illustrations. I am new here, and I hope that I am not stepping on anyone's toes. Dr.007 01:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Removed a bracket explaing that Michaelle Jean renounced citizenship, but could reclaim it at the end of her term in 2008 due to her "diplomatic immunity". This was incorrect for many reasons:
1) She is not a diplomat.
2) She was appointed in 2005. A five year term would end in 2010, not 2008, but see below.
3) She does not have a term. GGs serve, to quote the Letters Patent 1947, "at His Majesty's pleasure". Five years is traditional, but it is not a term.
4) That bracketed comment was nonsensical. How does diplomatic immunity allow someone to recover citizenship?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.1.218.17 (talk • contribs)
Could someone with the necessary skill level please edit the map by changing Taiwan from red to yellow?
How about editing the map so that the countries are classified into 6 categories, with countries classified under different categories highlighted in different colours:
--- In the image in this article, Spain is shown in red, indicating that they do not allow dual citizenship. However I am a dual citizen of Spain and the United States so I know this to not be true. Please fix this! --- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.136.22.4 (talk • contribs)
Section 11
1. Spanish nationality shall be acquired, retained and lost in accordance with the provisions of the law.
2.No person of Spanish birth may be deprived of his or her nationality.
3.The State may negotiate dual nationality treaties with Latin-American countries or with those which have had or which have special links with Spain. In these countries Spaniards may become naturalized without losing their nationality of origin, even if those countries do not grant a reciprocal right to their own citizens.
The above is confusing, but it does appear from 11(3) that Spain should not be colored red on the map. I think that the map should be removed, as the question Does this or that country "permit" multiple citizenships? more often than not does not have a black & white answer which can be accurately shown in red vs. yellow. -- Boracay Bill 22:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
It is clear that the map is wrong in several instances. I believe the data for Venezuela is also wrong. It is clear from points 11(1) to 11(3) that Spain does accept dual citzenship in certain cases. Should an extra color be added on the map to indicate those countries that have partial dual citizenship treaties? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.80.106.135 (talk) 13:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm that Argentina does not allow multiple citizenship? It is common in people with european ancestors to have argentinian citizenship (by being born there) and one european nationality (obtained for being a child of a foreigner). If there is such a law, it is completely ineffective.
Let me take the first entry in this section bit by bit:
Perhaps this first subsection should read simply:
I invite all of you to read the excellent article on the German nationality law before deliberating on Germany's multiple citizenship policy. The age limitation provision applies to those who became German by birth, and not citizenship by descent. In other words, a person born in the USA to non-naturalized German parents remains a German citizen for the duration of their life, while a child born to foreigners in Germany must choose at the age of 23 or lose German citizenship. 69.151.233.215 02:07, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
What purpose does the Examples section serve? There are countless possible scenarios where persons may acquire multiple citizenships, and those provided are not particularly instructive and presented in a haphazard fashion. I find that it is sufficiently clear in the opening section how multiple citizenship comes about. Readers wishing to find out more about specific countries can easily follow the links to articles about their nationality laws. Kraikk 12:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
The map is plain wrong. I'm a dual citizen. I was born in Fort Collins, CO and I live in Valencia, Spain. I hold a spanish ID card and a US passport. Never had a problem and none of the two countries challenged me.
--81.202.158.49 10:39, 15 April 2007 (UTC) I reiterate my cxomments from the Edit the map section above: I think that the map should be removed, as the question Does this or that country "permit" multiple citizenships? more often than not does not have a black & white answer which can be accurately shown in red vs. yellow. -- Boracay Bill 12:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
The whole number of passports for dual/multiple citizens is still a problem for me to understand. Let's say you have a number of four different kind of citizenships: American, French, Italian, and Israeli. Do you have a passport from every one of those countries? If so, then which one do you use when traveling? If someone could take the time to help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Cariis1989 05:59, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
After all that theorizing, a practical example. I hold both Canadian and Hungarian citizenships and have both passports. When entering Canada I use my Canadian passport. When entering Hungary (well actually now when entering anywhere in the EU) I use my Hungarian passport. Actually, I don't really need the Hungarian passport at all, my Hungarian ID card would serve just as well to get me into any EU country.kovesp (talk) 17:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I have moved a para recently added at the end of the lead section of this article over here, feeling that discussion is needed. The para which I moved reads as follows:
Even in cases where a country's law forbids dual citizenship and automatically revokes citizenship when one of its people acquires another country's citizenship, enforcement of such laws may be inconsistent. China, for example, has refused to acknowledge the Canadian naturalization of prisoner Huseyincan Celil and has rebuffed attempts by Canadian diplomats to intervene in his case, insisting that Celil is a citizen of China despite his having previously moved to Canada and become a citizen of that country.
Firstly (and this point applies to other parts of the lead section as well), this material does not belong in the lead section. WP:GTL says:
Normally, the first paragraph summarizes the most important points of the article. It should clearly explain the subject so that the reader is prepared for the greater level of detail and the qualifications and nuances that follow. If further introductory material is needed before the first section, this can be covered in subsequent paragraphs.
This material (and some other material currently in the lead section) does not fit that description.
Secondly, and more specifically about this material, it makes assertions which, IMO, need to be supported by cited sources:
Those assertions may be supportable, but a quick search by me failed to turn up sources supporting them. I did find this requote of a Hamilton Spectator article in which the writer reports "... raising fears China still regards him as a Chinese national and is ignoring Canadian requests to see him and check on his wellbeing." Another article says "... said Foreign Minister Peter MacKay, complaining Beijing repeatedly refused to let Canadian officials visit the man.", which might go to point #2 above except for the question of whether attempting to visit the man is equivalent to attempting to intervene in the man's case (I think not). Other articles ([8], [9], etc.) throw interesting sidelights on this case.
Thirdly, I think that this is too specifically about this one case to be appropriately presented in this article. If it goes anywhere, it should probably go in the Huseyincan Celil article. Once the point is made in that article, that article might be mentioned here (note that contentious assertions from that article repeated in this one would need to be supported by source citations here).
In passing, I noted that Article 9 of the Nationality Law of the People's Republic of China says: "Any Chinese national who has settled abroad and who has been naturalized as a foreign national or has acquired foreign nationality of his own free will shall automatically lose Chinese nationality." If that is to be mentioned, it needs to be supported by a reliable source outside of wikipedia. This would probably do. In connection with this, I suspect that status as a foreign national does not confer immunity from prosecution on terrorism charges in China (or in Canada, or in the U.S.)-- Boracay Bill 01:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Rich. I've looked at the article on Huseyincan Celil, and I noted some cite problems in it. I was able to fix some of the problems I saw, but had to mark some for attention by others. I didn't find a working citation on that page supporting the assertion that Chinese authorities are claiming that he is a Chinese citizen (I'm not arguing that they're not, just saying that I've seen no support for this assertion). It does appear to my layman's eye that Chinese authorities are not honoring the China/Canada Consular agreement (see Article 8 -- I'll mention of that and provide a cite over on the Huseyincan Celil page), but that concerns Canadian citizenship and, AFAICT, does not concern Chinese citizenship. One source cited on the Huseyincan Celil page says "Li Wei, director of the Center of Counter-Terrorism, Chinese Institute of Contemporary International Relations, emphasized that because Celil was on Interpol's Red List before being admitted into Canada, the Consulate Agreement signed by the two states doesn't apply to this case.", which sounds bogus to me but, again, doesn't assert that Huseyincan Celil is a Chinese citizen. I don't think that mention of this case belongs on this page unless it is clear that multiple-nationality status is a central issue in his situation.
This article documents a current event. The Huseyincan Celil article is tagged with ((current)), saying, "This article documents a current event. Information may change rapidly as the event progresses." I think that it's best to wait for the dust to settle a bit here. Once it is clear what the situation is, and once that situation has been made clear on the Huseyincan Celil page, with key points supported by good cites of supporting sources, it might be useful to mention the situation there. Of course, if/when that is done, assertions made on this page need to be supported by citations located on this page.
Remember, WP:NPOV, WP:SOAP. -- Boracay Bill 06:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC) copyedited 11:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC) (sigh)
The comment which I deleted from Example 11 was: "A similar clause in the Oath of citizenship (United States) is never enforced."
I have reinstated some text regarding Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI) that was previously deleted. It is indeed the case, as the person making the deletion noted, that Overseas Citizenship of India does not confer regular dual or multiple citizenship. However, it was never my intention to claim that. I merely claim that there is a trend, in recent years and in some nations, in the direction of allowing dual/multiple citizenship. I merely claim that India has taken a step in that direction with OCI, not that India has or will go all the way to permitting full dual/multiple citizenship. Clearly, from the reference cited, OCI conveys some rights that an ordinary non-Indian citizen does not enjoy, although also OCI stops well short of conveying full citizenship rights. I therefore claim it is a step towards dual/multiple citizenship. I would also add that relying on a given country's own documents as to what is/is not dual/multiple citizenship can be unreliable, as many countries are reluctant to acknowledge that they permit dual/multiple citizenship even if they do--to avoid the impression of double loyalties. I have reworded the text a bit to try to make my meaning clearer--feel free to rework it some more but clearly OCI is an important data point in this discussion and should not simply be removed from the article.--Dash77 21:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't initially see the new section on OCI when I wrote what I wrote above. I've left in the new section on OCI but reworked my text some more to reference the section on OCI.--Dash77 21:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Interestingly a document online with the Indian Government's Ministry of Home Affairs does refer to overseas citizenship of India as a form of dual citizenship, as do other documents on the same Indian government site. However, I still agree that overseas citizenship stops well short of being true dual citizenship as the term is normally understood, so I will hold off on making any further changes to the main page--I am simply making note of this on this talk page to see how others react/change the main page.--Dash77 01:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I've moved Example 14 here for discussion because I have problems with it. It reads:
Example 14: A person born to in the U.S. to Filipino parents immediately become a U.S. citizen then a Filipino citizen but even before the child becomes a Filipino citizen as well he/she may live in the Philippines until then because he/she`s parents are Filipino. Since the childs parents are Filipino the child is eligible for a Filipino citizenship.
Article IV of the Philippine constitution reads {see here):
“ | Article IV
Citizenship Section 1. The following are citizens of the Philippines: (1) Those who are citizens of the Philippines at the time of the adoption of this Constitution; (2) Those whose fathers or mothers are citizens of the Philippines; (3) Those born before January 17, 1973, of Filipino mothers, who elect Philippine Citizenship upon reaching the age of majority; and (4) Those who are naturalized in the accordance with law. Section 2. Natural-born citizens are those who are citizens of the Philippines from birth without having to perform any act to acquire or perfect their Philippine citizenship. Those who elect Philippine citizenship in accordance with paragraph (3), Section 1 hereof shall be deemed natural-born citizens. Section 3. Philippine citizenship may be lost or reacquired in the manner provided by law. Section 4. Citizens of the Philippines who marry aliens shall retain their citizenship, unless by their act or omission they are deemed, under the law to have renounced it. Section 5. Dual allegiance of citizens is inimical to the national interest and shall be dealt with by law. |
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As I read this, the child is a Philippine citizen at birth. Given this, the example might more correctly read:
Example 14: A person born in the U.S. and having at least one Filipino parent is a citizen of both the U.S. and of the Philippines at birth.
However, I'd question whether this example would add enough to the article to justify its appearance. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 03:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it not the case that a large number of people in the Bush administration hold dual US/Israeli citizenship? Obviously, that's because (as discussed elsewhere in the article), the Israeli concept of citizenship is unique, but it still makes the above statement questionable.
I'm aware Israel and Zionism are contentious subjects(!), so any mention of this needs to be discreet :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcgazz (talk • contribs) 12:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
No, you're right - being Jewish does not confer Israeli Citizenship automatically. But I'd been led to believe that a number of US Government figures (Richard Perle, John Bolton, Scooter Libby) actually held Israeli passports, having presumably applied via the Law of Return. It could be that people are confusing the two - I'm not convinced that the USA would be keen on allowing a number dual-nationality citizens to hold senior government posts, even if they are citizens of an ally. More rearch needed I think. McGazz (talk) 09:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
A table (either on this page, or another page) may be useful in demonstrating which countries allow dual citizenship (through either permission by law or omission of any law making it illegal) and with what countries they may allow it, as well as any restrictions they place on that. For example a child born to a Korean parent and a foreign parent can be allowed to have dual citizenship until they are 21 years of age, but at 21 under korean law they must choose one of the them. I'm not sure if a country may for example allow dual citizenship with any country, but then state, countries x, y, z are not permitted.--Crossmr (talk) 02:39, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
first sentence says father's nationality (US) is automatically acquired. second sentence says US citizenship may be acquired. someone please fix this.
According to Wikipedia's article on the French Foreign Legion, any non-Frenchman who serves a six-year term as a legionnaire is entitled to French citizenship after being honorably discharged from the Legion. I know some Americans have served. So I ask: if an American is honorably discharged from the French Foreign Legion after six years, and opts to accept the offer of French citizenship, does he automatically lose his US citizenship? Or does he become a dual citizen of the US and France? Tom129.93.65.41 (talk) 02:40, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Military service in foreign countries usually does not cause loss of citizenship since an intention to relinquish citizenship normally is lacking. In adjudicating loss of nationality cases, the Department has established an administrative presumption that a person serving in the armed forces of a foreign state not engaged in hostilities against the United States does not have the intention to relinquish citizenship. Voluntary service in the armed forces of a state engaged in hostilities against the United States could be viewed as indicative of an intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship.
Pursuant to Section 351(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, a person who served in foreign armed forces while under the age of eighteen is not considered subject to the provisions of Section 349(a)(3) if, within six months of attaining the age of eighteen, he or she asserts a claim to United States citizenship in the manner prescribed by the Secretary of State.
I'm adding Congress's CRS reports to their relevant pages, since they're so thorough and you can just copy-and-paste the content ... here's yours: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/CRS:_DUAL_CITIZENSHIP%2C_October_1%2C_1998
By the way, this page is going to need a split for dual citizenship (United States), IMHO. That sounds a tad silly, but maybe we'll have an infobox/template with all the countries in it, appearing on the page of every country's "dual citizenship" article. (eventually.) Agradman talk/contribs 08:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE: The link to Wikileaks above now forwards to a Wikileaks mirror's main page, where the search function does not work, so this CRS report is no longer locable. I found a serviceable if somewhat ugly HTMLized copy at [10]. TJRC (talk) 18:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
"Colloquial speech refers to humans "holding" multiple citizenship but technically each nation is making a claim that this person be considered its national. For this reason it is possible that a person be a citizen of one, none or many countries."
The first sentence (above) doesn't make much sense to me. What's the distinction? Agradman talk/contribs 06:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
It's way too long and full of obscure corner cases. Since Wikipedia is not a guide book or an indiscriminate collection of information it should be trimmed down or removed. Someidiot (talk) 22:26, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
This edit, with an edit summary saying that you cannot buy an US Citizenship, popped up on my watchlist. Correct, AFAICT, and the assertion that this can be done is not supported by the source cited in the article. However, a path to U.S. citizenship can be purchased — through participation in the EB-5 visa program. That is US-specific, though, and not directly/immediately related to the article topic. It may or may not be appropriate to mention that info in this article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:09, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
In contrast to what is mentioned in the beginning of the article, Germany DOES allow dual citizens (I am one, with US citizenship as well) in certain situations. In my case, it is because of a law in Germany that allows descendants of those who lost citizenship in the Third Reich to recover citizenship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.142.79.254 (talk) 17:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
"A 2007 US study confirmed the negative effect of dual citizenship in the United States on assimilation and political connectedness for first generation Latino immigrants finding that dual nationals are: 32% less likely to be fluent in English, [...]" -- Wouldn't correlation does not imply causation be applicable here? I'm not sure why this article was cited here, because it seems to me that it has confirmed squat... - 219.79.122.178 (talk) 18:52, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps: "A 2007 US study concluded that dual citizenship in the United States had a negative effect on assimilation and political connectedness for first generation Latino immigrants..." Patapsco913 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:48, 6 August 2011 (UTC).
Why was the map removed.graphical representation would be much easier to understand — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.44.161 (talk) 09:15, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I've moved the following text here from the article:
A breaking controversy in the Irish Presidential Elections 2011 surrounds the citizenship of one of the candidates, Ms Dana Rosemary Scallon, who is a naturalised US citizen and therefore may be disqualified from her canddidacy on grounds that the Irish Constitution requires the President of Ireland to be an Irish citizen, something a naturalised US citizen cannot legally be under US law.
It is unsupported, and appears to be at least partially erroneous. My understanding is that there is no problem in U.S. law with a naturalized U.S. citizen holding other citizenships. The U.S. naturalization process requires the taking of an oath renouncing other allegiences; however, the effect of taking such an oath on other citizenships held is not determined by U.S. law. Rather, it would be determined by the law of the countries where other citizenships are held. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 11:40, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
I wonder if another category is needed. I believe Malaysia and Singapore are fairly similar. A child is allowed to hold dual citizenship up to a certain age (21 in Malaysia, 22 in Singapore). An adult cannot hold dual citizenship and if the authorities find out policy is either you renounce your other citizenship/s or it will be removed (although in Malaysia I believe they sometimes don't really give you the option of renouncing it). However it isn't automatic. The constitution of Malaysia simply says your citizenship may be removed if you have dual citizenship and so the government does need to go thru a process to revoke your citizenship. Not an RS but see [12]. I considered moving this to 'possible' but IMO possible isn't strong enough. It seems to suggest it may happen but it's not guaranteed, whereas with Malaysia and I believe Singapore it's pretty much guaranteed you will lose your citizenship if it's found you have multiple citizenship, it's simply that it's not automatic under law. Oh and Malaysia also has subnational citizenship with migration to East Malaysia limited [13]. (I'm lazy to add sources and I dislike adding something without sources so won't be adding it for now.) Nil Einne (talk) 01:37, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
I have amended this section to read 'Conversely, that such a person has not acted in this way does not necessarily mean that they are not *entitled to be* an Irish citizen.' See Irish nationality law - at birth and sources cited therein.
Alekksandr (talk) 19:56, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I have a friend which was born in US and than moved to Kuwait. His father is Turkish and his mother is Turkish Cypriot. So he is eligible to hold USA, Kuwait, Turkey, Cyprus and North Cyprus citizenships. But he only holds Turkey and USA passports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.142.141.25 (talk) 08:36, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that in the section detailing exceptions to the automatic loss of Czech citizenship, the relevant date is listed as "September 31, 1992". September only has 30 days. Is the correct date September 30 or December 31 or something else? 1.127.255.247 (talk) 12:44, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, Australian or otherwise, nor have I ever played one on TV (small joke there).
This edit, adding some detail re the Sue v Hill case in Australia, caught my eye. The edit relied on this previously cited source. The added content seems entirely reasonable, but I am unable to find support for it in the cited source. Am I missing something? Is this WP:original research? Does this need clarification and/or another supporting cite? Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:55, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I've removed an assertion saying "Only two countries base taxation on citizenship: the United States and Eritrea" from the article. this source was cited in support, and tagged ((verify credibility)). I don't know about the reliability of that source, but (1) I was unable to confirm support of that assertion at the cited URL, and (2) The Philippines taxes its overseas citizens (see [14]). Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
As a US born citizen I worked for a local company in the Republic of South Africa and knew I should file my US tax forms. When I contacted the US Embassy for the papers they asked how much I was earning. It was so little they said it would cost more to process the forms then I'd have to pay so do not bother filing. 2601:645:300:9C74:F455:9B0D:287A:4AEB (talk) 02:05, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
The entire overseas taxation issue is, as far as I can tell, entirely irrelevant to multiple citizenship, as it applies equally to any overseas citizen, regardless of whether the person has citizenship in another country. Paul Richter (talk) 00:45, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
"Multiple citizenship, also called dual citizenship ..." begins the article but this isn't right, dual is two but multiple can be more. Jimp 08:59, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I have added "United States of America" to list of "very difficult/humiliating/expensive renunciation processes". Reasons: 1) Fee for renunciation is now $2350 per person, easily $10,000 or more for a family, and 2) the US has ambushed several million "US persons" living outside the US who are "accidental" Americans. That is, they are citizens of another country who have acquired US citizenship inadvertently, e.g. when their parents were temporarily living in the US. Some Canadians have been born in US border hospitals due to medical emergency. The US is demanding that these individuals, mostly people who had no idea they were "Americans", pay minimum 28% of their (criminal) "foreign" financial assets or face penalties in excess of 100%. In order to renounce US citizenship, they must file taxes and pay all penalties assessed by the IRS and US Treasury. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.192.149 (talk) 14:27, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
The article text should be improved where it uses the terms 'state', 'country' and 'nation' interchangeably. They refer to separate and different notions. --62.16.186.44 (talk) 08:08, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
The arrangements surrounding Norfolk Island have completely changed recently, though I am unsure to what effect. Can someone double check that a separate NI 'citizenship' still exists? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.48.18 (talk) 06:58, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
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I've edited the list item Possible (but not automatic) loss of citizenship as follows:
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Apart that this version of the map does not include disputed European territories (e.g. Kosovo, Northern Cyprus etc) and new countries (e.g. South Sudan), it’s incomplete (e.g. Serbia (Serbian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, II Acquiring of citizenship by admission, C)), Albania (Article 3), Macedonia (Article 2) allow dual citizenship), it’s inaccurate (e.g. Germany allows dual citizenship on conditions (Germany ([15], [16], [17], [18]), and the map does not correspond with the text (e.g. appears Greece, Austria, and Germany as not allowing it, while text says –rightly–otherwise).
But the major problem is that while most of the (at least European) countries do allow a future citizen to retain the old citizenship, or allow own citizens to acquire a new citizenship ex lege, some of them do not allow own citizens to obtain another citizenship by will, before they renounce their citizenship (or automatically lose it).
In order for this map to be accurate, it must include more legends, e.g.:
Or something like that. Actually, because only few countries (I don’t know, if any?) allow only the country’s citizenship NO MATTER WHAT, we can start by finding them and add them to the map as red. Then, find the countries that (again I don’t know if any) allows dual citizenship again no matter what (except of course of fraud, law violation etc), and add them with green. And stop there, because all the other countries in world would allow dual citizenship one way or another. Wolfymoza (talk) 06:42, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
I find that this article is difficult to extract country-specific information from, because the text is not laid out in a clear manner, the information provided is not consistent between countries, and much of it is ambiguous and/or written in a 'chatty' style. I would suggest that the entire article needs to be re-written as well as laid out differently. There should also be included a table summarising the situation (multiple citizenship allowed vs. not) by country, for ease of reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.89.131.57 (talk) 12:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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There must be a specific year linked to the recognition of dual citizenship in the USA, because it did not exist in the 1950's or 60's or 70's, in other words, for the first approximate 200 years of the country's existence. This would have required a specific act of Congress to change the existing law, which could be cited in this article.Starhistory22 (talk) 07:25, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:07, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Also, regarding the loss of U.S. citizenship status properly acquired, see e.g., http://www.americanlaw.com/dualcit.html. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill)
A marker has been placed on the "National cohesiveness" section of "Effects and potential issues" questioning its neutrality. However I can't seem to find any significant discussion on this here.
In my view at least this section isn't written neutrally and I am unsure why it needs to exist at all.
108.50.198.68 (talk) 20:40, 22 March 2020 (UTC)