Hi, I made my first wikipedia posting few months ago and wish to clarify one factual issue related to its rejection. I don't care anymore at this point whether the draft gets rejected or not, but I wish to resolve one misunderstanding which was stated about the reason of rejection. I cannot accept your argument until this issue is clearly understood and accepted by the reviewer. A clarification is needed on the misunderstanding which you had on me as a writer. How do I prove that I have zero affiliation with the person I wrote about? Do I need to create a sandbox page about my identity? Why did you assume that I must have prepared the article for the sake of commercial interest or promotional activities?
I have no idea how you could pre-assume (without even asking the writer) that I may have personal relations with the person I wrote about. This can even sound like a personal insult to a writer who just wanted to make attempt on writing the article for the first time. I apologize if my citations were not good enough, but you cannot assume that I may have a personal relation with the person I wrote about. I don't even personally know him. Of course I don't work for the media company and there is no way he can pay me when he doesn't even know me. Besides, I am an outsider who once took a course and studied Hallyu industry and someone who was curious about writing wikipedia article drafts and just wanted to give it a try through trials and errors. My personal goal was to increase English wikipedia pages for the existing Korean wikipedia pages. In that way, more English readers can have access to Asian wikipedia pages (perhaps if the English draft is available, then the English writers can also find ways together to fix the reference issue which Korean wikipedia articles hold).
All I tried to do was create an English version of his already-existing Korean wikipedia page. I do not get paid by anyone for this matter, and this is almost a personal insult to me when I have pure interest to contribute as a writer as well, but all I get is a pre-assumed comments filled with injustice.
I am not asking the reviewer to accept the draft because the draft already has a reference issue. I also accept that the submission can be rejected only if it's because of citation issues or because you consider that the person is "not notable", but I can never accept the reviewer's assumption about my purpose and intent of preparing the draft. I have no relation with a person I wrote about. I cannot emphasize enough that I want to know why the reviewer would pre-assume about something that isn't even true at all. What made you think that I must have written about someone I know or for commercial interest?
Please reconsider this issue; I want you to take back what you said about my intent of draft and I hope to cooperate in the most peaceful way and resolve this matter together. Thanks for reviewing and considering this message in advance. Uideyield (talk) 15:41, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
... for improving article quality in November! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
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Some remarks after having skimmed, occasionally raising a quizzical eyebrow, through the extensive (though doubtless and therefore unfortunately not comprehensive) examples on your Main Page. It isn't only Wehrmacht fans and Nazi apologists. Lots of people prefer rattling good stories and sanitised descriptions over hard facts.
(1) I've just watched an American documentary (date uncertain, but narrated by Charlton Heston), according to which "Rommel [in North Africa] had taken a high-velocity 88 anti-aircraft gun and adapted it to anti-tank service, where it was a deadly destructive surprise". It was clearly part of Rommel's genius to realise, as no-one had done before, that 88 AA shells would work equally well as if not better as AP rounds </sarcasm>.
Rommel is an interesting example. He is bigged up, perhaps uniquely, by people with several different agendas to push. The Desert Fox, only defeated in North Africa by Monty's superior generalship. Far-sighted defender of the Atlantic Wall, who would have thrown the Allies back into the sea if only he'd been listened to. Opponent of Hitler, a simple soldier, quiet supporter (or perhaps unaware) of the 20 July plot, forced to commit suicide by Nazi grandees. (Oh, and one-time commander of Hitler's bodyguard.)
(2) Robert Henry Cain, VC citation: "On 20th September [1944] a Tiger tank approached the area held by his company and Major Cain went out alone to deal with it armed with a Piat. Taking up a position he held his fire until the tank was only 20 yards away when he opened up. The tank immediately halted and turned its guns on him, shooting away a corner of the house near where this officer was lying. Although wounded by machine gun bullets and falling masonry, Major Cain continued firing until he had scored several direct hits, immobilised the tank and supervised the bringing up of a 75 mm. howitzer which completely destroyed it".
One of the very best VCs, but that citation lies like a bulletin. (1) He didn't start out alone (the PIAT needed two men to work it; his second had been killed early in the action), (2) not every Nazi vehicle with tracks on it in 1944 was a Tiger or even a tank (it was actually a StuG III), and (3) direct hits from a PIAT, a misbegotten idea of a weapon, usually just bounced off (what Cain managed to do was to shoot off a track).
(3) The death of Giovanni Fornasini.
Source 1 (translated from the Italian): "While giving burial (forbidden by the Nazis), to the dead of Casaglia di Caprara, Don Fornasini faced a German officer, openly accusing him of the crimes committed in the area of Marzabotto; the priest was immediately shot down."
Source 2 (translated from the Italian): "For this massacre, he confronted the responsible officer, scolding him bitterly. The German replied: 'Those are lies. Come with me, let us go for an inspection'. Then, having arrived at the place, in the presence of all those corpses, he killed him with a revolver shot to the head."
Source 3 (in English): "The German soldiers grabbed another priest, Father Giovanni Fornasini, and cut off his head."
Source 4 (in English): "When it seemed that the bloody fury of the Germans was placated, the pastor of Sperticano, Don Giovanni Fornasini, went to the San Martino Cemetery on October 13th to give Christian burial to the corpses that has been burned. The stench of decomposing bodies that had been covered with gasoline and set on fire filled the air. At the sight of the terrible spectacle, unaware that he was being observed by an SS captain, Don Fornasini commented 'These were not partisans; only the elderly, women, and children'. The Captain responded, 'Pastor kaput'. The blast of a machine gun ended his life."
Sources 5, 6, and 7 (all in Italian, and clearly independent of each other): "The circumstances of his death are shrouded in mystery."
I prefer even one source, let alone three, saying "no-one knows" over four irreconcilable pieces of fiction. (As if Waffen-SS officers were accustomed to record, or afterwards to regale people with, details of incidents like the Marzabotto massacre.)
There's a perennial tendency to make events look more heroic/splendid/spectacular/pitiable/etc. than they were. Sticking to the facts isn't easy. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Dear,
My topic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Saeed_Jafarian rejected by you because of notability I think. But he is a Palme D'ore nominee at Festival de Cannes and many other grade-A festivals like TIFF and AFI Fest, aren't these reasons enough? Losthighway1990 (talk) 16:17, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Hey K.e.coffman, take a peek at - diff1, diff2, and diff on commons. A higher resolution of the same photo + comments by a museum can be seen - here. If you know a bit of Yiddish/German - it is verifiable by self reading - the first line is "דער טאג וואלן" or "Der Tag Wahlen" - election day. The museum's loose translation (won't dicker with them too much - but seems to me a bit loose) is "The Election of / Delegates / For the people's council / of Western Belarus", and they say this was taken in 1941 right after the German conquest. This was presented on Wikipedia "Banner in Yiddish welcoming the Soviet forces in 1939. In the background the Catholic Church of St. Roch in Białystok (Soviet photo)"
- which seems like Żydokomuna/Jewish Bolshevism. The file was added to Commons (and I presume to Wikipedia on around the same date) in December 2015 - and remained on Wikipedia for nearly 3 years. Icewhiz (talk) 17:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
"following mock elections conducted in the atmosphere of coercion and terror."- in wikivoice, which sort of made the caption make sense (as the image is actually an election notice for the People's Council..... However if we view the elections themselves (yes, sham elections as everywhere in the Soviet Union) as an instrumemt of terror - with a little bit of SYNTH and OR one could get to that caption).Icewhiz (talk) 04:14, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Jewish welcoming banner for the Soviet forces invading Poland. In the background the Catholic Church of St. Roch in Białystok (Soviet photo). It even got the source of the photo wrong, claiming that it was a "Soviet photo". In general, I suspect that 99.5% of Wikipedia's readers and editors would not know what the banner said. I changed the pejorative-sounding "Jewish banner" to "banner in Yiddish" based on my readings on the topic of Bialystock, from which I knew that the city's Jewish population was almost exclusively Yiddish-speaking, to the point that Zionist organisations there published their newspapers in Yiddish, not Hebrew. If you see any more creative captions, please let me know. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:08, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
I always admired how you cut through bull-stuff in some contexts (re: your inspiring c/e of various Nazi-whitewashing, etc.). Which is why I am surprised we seem to disagree on the 'Jewish Paradise' issue. The 1606 poem was undeniably xenophoic (including being antisemitic). But the poem is fringe, it is forgotten, and all that remains is the proverb (and its shorter 'Jewish Paradise') section. I've cited plenty of sources, and the use of either is generally neutral, as in, non-malicious and referring to the Golden Age of Jews in Poland. Of course, we can find some instances of those terms being abused by antisemites, but 1) I cannot find any academic source discussing the use of those constructs by antisemites, so all we have are some primary refs to hate speech and 2) those constructs are reasonably often used by academics, who clearly use them in a neutral way (if not, in fact, a way that's positive towards the Jews, as in, referring to their Golden Age). There's the bit about the saying being an exaggeration/hyperbole, which the article notes as well, but I'd really appreciated it if you tell me what I am missing here? I explained this issue on talk in more detail, but IMHO the vast majority of reliable (academic) sources uses the proverb/two word construct neutrally. How such a construct can be considered antisemitic? (Again, I am sure it is abused in some hate speech, but so can be everything else, and hate speech is not a reliable source, not until it is analyzed by academics). A single minor scholar is grinding an ax because she has issues with a POLIN Museum and criticized the title of their exhibition; no other scholar seems to support her claim about those constructs (through some, rightly, agree re the original 1606 poem, as do I, and as the article clearly states). Seriously, one of the world's largest museums of Jewish history wouldn't use an anti-semitic phrase, without any explanation, on its pages/exhibitions: [7]. And it's not like POLIN is not aware of Janicka's criticism (or criticisms, she effectivelly called it an antisemitic museum, she really has an issue with that institution...); they have generated a few more academic papers, replies from POLIN director/staff, which essentially boils down to 'criticism of this phrase is incorrect and out of context', which is why the museum has retained this phrase, and nobody else has repeated this criticism (Polin won a prestigious Europen-wide museum award, the European Museum of the Year Award, since: [8]). Ditto for media, no media, Polish or international, have deemed this criticism to be justified. Just recently a Jewish-American newspaper ([9]) run a nice report on the museum, and guess what? They even explicitly refer to the Jewish Paradise construct in a positive way: "The 'Paradisus Iudaeorum' gallery, part of the core exhibition at Warsaw's POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews, examines a 'golden age' for Jews in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in the 16th and 17th centuries." in the image caption, and they don't even bother to mention any criticism of that phrase. So, are you going to say that the AJP is using anti-semitic language now? PS. BBC used it a way back: [10], so did the Jewish Telegraphic Agency ([11]). Hardly anti-semitic venues (if it was really an anti-semitic slur, you'd think someone would point it out to them and they'd revise their articles...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:02, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
@Piotrus: You have asked for my opinion; I responded on my Talk page as well as at DYK. It's apparently not what you expected to hear, so let me be more direct in how I convey this. Accusations of "ranting" [12] in response to good-faith concerns are not appropriate. Likewise, continued advocacy [13] with the aim of getting an antisemitic-sounding saying onto the mainpage comes across as off. Other editors said as much, i.e. here: [14].
Re: your comment that "the academic debate about this topic, as well as whether this phrase is anti-semitic, or much more nuanced, is ongoing, and any attempt to simply it is not helpful" [15]. I agree with this point, but it also underlies the issue with the hook. The available word count does not offer sufficient space for nuance, which the topic requires. It also seems that the positive connotations apply to the two-word phrase. Attempts to "simplify" the article into a hook & use the entire saying evince responses such as: "Who the hell is responsible for this potential P.R. clusterfuck?". It would not be a good look for Wikipedia if more people come away with this impression.
Perhaps you are simply too invested in the article to be able to hear the feedback you are getting. That said, I grant that there's a chance that I'm wrong in how I perceived the hook. A discussion at NPOVN may be benefitial to get wider perspectives. K.e.coffman (talk) 22:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
(EC):::@Piotrus: I would just like to amplify and clarify my original concerns with this DYK nomination. Before I begin, I must say that I have often agreed with your editing and have never had issues with you. For clarification, I edited until September with the user name 'Irondome' so, this is me. Her are some points;
These were my main concerns, and I wished to clarify them here. Your colleague, Simon Adler (talk) 05:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Piotrus: what are the two academic sources that discuss this topic [the entire saying] in depth? K.e.coffman (talk) 05:02, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Piotrus: If you are confident that Kot would pass RS muster, I would suggest raising the issue at RSN. The way the AfD is trending, I don't think the editors there share your conviction. It just looks like WP:ILIKEIT, to be honest. For example, I would not use a 1930's source from Nazi Germany to discuss an antisemitic-sounding saying (or United States, or Russia, for that matter). It's just common sense.
I don't agree with the Reductio ad Hitlerum / ad Antisemitismum analogy either: [17]. You would be surprised at how many times I had to say: this is literally a neo-Nazi / Nazi-apologist source and would get "meh" responses from MILHIST. Some highlights from the ArbCom case here:
In general, I would be very cautious about using dated sources in a contentitious area such as this. K.e.coffman (talk) 18:53, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
I don't understand, why are you think that article about Draft:2018 Men's World Floorball Championships appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. There are some more articles like this, for example, 2016 Men's World Floorball Championships or 2014 Men's World Floorball Championships. --Treisijs (talk) 19:37, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I see that the Draft:HBUS has been deleted. Is there a way to get a copy of the source? The instructions on the page were to add better and/or newsworthy references which I was accumulating. The outright deletion of the page without notice is extremely off-putting. I am dismayed at the editors here. I was threatened to be blocked permanently for adjusting the description the leaves of an orchid that I have been cultivating for 20 years.. Geesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seedan (talk • contribs) 19:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for taking your time to check the draft. After your review I tried to make that article more neutral. It also shortened. Could you look again? Thank you! --Rukkostan (talk) 21:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
How do you feel about the current state or condition of Draft:Christine Mitchell? There's more to be found, but I think that the set of issues to be explored here includes:
What would you think ought to be improved about its current state? MaynardClark (talk) 05:35, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Below are the comments I put forward to DGG, who was responsible for the Speedy Deletion of this draft. The deletion was so speedy that I was unable to lodge an appeal. I am therefore requesting re-consideration of this decision as being inconsistent with existing Wikipedia entries and also in demonstrating an apparent lack of understanding of the sector and the historical and legislative significance of this particular organisation/product.
"The entry was justifiable as an organisation which pioneered a product/service that led to a direct change in UK Primary Legislation. The entry itself was significantly amended following comments from the original reviewer to enhance the balance. The historical context and generic explanation of how a funding portal works was also amended to provide an even stronger encyclopedic element to this content. I ensured these elements were educational and balanced. The citations were all from independent, national publications or directly from UK Government sources. The G11 decision states: "because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic" and yet there are numerous live Wikipedia entries in this specific sector to which this ruling would apply - not least Funding Options, the second of the three UK Government designated portals (NOTE: it is absolutely not my intention to see this page removed). The same could be said for the Wiki entries of products and services such as Funding Circle, CrowdCube, Zopa, and MarketInvoice (which has been flagged as having significant issues but remains live). Also, every UK bank listed in Wikipedia. Again, my intention here is not to have these pages removed but to demonstrate the inconsistency in this deletion decision. I would be grateful for your comments and an opportunity to review your decision and reinstate the page."
KEC, I would be equally grateful for your comments on the above and request that you discuss this appeal with DGG with a view to reinstating the page. Many thanks. Casius12 (talk) 14:40, 6 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Casius12 (talk • contribs) 13:06, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
KEC - thank you for your speedy response. I will continue the dialoge with the deleting admin as adivsed. However, for the record, I had read your talk feedback in October and, while I took steps to amend the content, my detailed response above demonstrates why your comment is inappropriate and entirely inconsistent with exisiting live Wikipedia entries. Thanks for your time. Casius12 (talk) 14:40, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
@K.e.coffman:, the draft i submitted has recently been declined, and i would just like a couple of pointers, so please feel free to be frank with me. Manal has become a pretty big celebrity here in Bulgaria since she appeared in the finals of X-Factor, and is now famous for producing and starring in musical theatre shows and performances. I wanted to create this page for her as a way of saying thankyou for inspiring our country to delve into something new and outside the normal box. Any pointers would be most welcome. Thanks, Santoro888. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santoro888 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
I would like some further explanation on why the page Salina Vortex Corporation was rejected. Though it is a company, it has been written by a third-party, unassociated author using information from externally credited and reliable sources. The submission discusses third-party supported accomplishments and historical information - not company promotional messaging. I am wondering is there a double standard to privately owned companies versus publically traded companies? For example, Coca-Cola product names are mentioned throughout their Wiki page, yet they have not been flagged. Any recommendations you may have on how this page can be revised in order for it to be published would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Ltc1993 (talk) 16:33, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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Wanted to beat you to the punch this year. Happy Holidays and a big thank-you to all you do around here. Day-in and day-out I find you plowing through AfD providing a voice of reason. Ifnord (talk) 18:24, 7 December 2018 (UTC) |
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Hi. I've been doing some work on this today following the AfD-move. Some interesting finds, such as Szymon Starowolski 1636 (whose work we call a "poem" in the "Uses in literature" as well as cite as reference) being covered in secondary sources as an example of the Catholic church finding the relationship between Jews and nobles as offensive. The use of "Paradisus Judaeorum" by the Polish anti-semitic National Democracy to describe the situation of Jews in ghettos in 1940 was also an interesting find - and if you recall Ewa Kurek's claims of "Jews had fun in the ghettos"[19] - seems this has a 1940 antecedent. Going back on-point, it seems to me from reviewing the secondary sources that cover this term is that this is essentially used as a WP:POVFORK of History of the Jews in Poland - being one extreme end of the spectrum (Poles as a tolerant nation - the other side of the spectrum (held per multiple sources by many Jews, quite possibly wrongly) is that Pole and anti-Semite are synonymous terms) ... In your AfD !vote - diff - you advocated a re-title then merge to History of the Jews in Poland - I agree - we could perhaps have a section there on public perception or range of historical discourse. Icewhiz (talk) 09:18, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Latest instalments in this far-reaching debate:
Now also at:
--K.e.coffman (talk) 05:48, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
(sent out exact copy to all AfD participants - apologize if you are aware) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heaven for the nobles, Purgatory for the townspeople, Hell for the peasants, and Paradise for the Jews which you were involved in, is in discussion at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2018 December. Input there is welcome.Icewhiz (talk) 07:15, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
I was thinking that if you were looking for an article to work on, this would be a good one. I recall you have Danny Parker's book. I did some ce back in September, but it could use some more ce work and cites. Kierzek (talk) 19:05, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, thank you taking the time to look at my draft entry for Jeremy Zimmer. I have read your comments and made proposed changes to address your concerns. As a COI editor, I cannot make direct changes to the page. Would you be willing to take another look and see if this is ready to post? You can view my revised draft here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jeremy_Zimmer EWChristine (talk) 20:02, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
On 11 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Panzer Aces, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Panzer Aces, a book series about World War II widely read in the US, was described as portraying "an almost heroic version of the German soldier, guiltless of any war crimes"? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, ), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi, K.e.coffman! Thank you for reviewing my article. What do I have to do, to get the topic [20] sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Is it the topic itself or is it the company, which is not famous enough? Greetings, --Naitsabes117 (talk) 21:18, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Naitsabes117 (talk) 12:20, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, at Draft:Lidia Vianu the issue „The article is creation protected” was solved, and the article improved. Now I should to press the "Resubmit" button? Does "creation protected" comment remain there, or can it be removed? Thanks. --Turbojet (talk) 08:04, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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On 14 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ernst Klink, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a member of a Waffen-SS lobby group contributed to Germany's official history of World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ernst Klink. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, ), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC) |
I've started opening RfCs for Wehrmachtbericht mentions at RSN; you might be interested in doing the same. My idea is that using tightly-focused groups of sources (similar works from the same series or author) and obtaining a closing statement will help us reach a clear consensus that we can use to move forward. –dlthewave ☎ 23:30, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your informstion, i do not have any connection to my article I have been an admirer of his work for many years and would have posted a page much earlier but only just leant how to use a computer. Hopefully my amendments will be wothin the guidelines ive read and read them over amd over
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pin3appl385 (talk • contribs) 18:09, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I have included information and links to additional notable sources including for New York Public Radio (WQXR and The Jerome L. Greene Performance Space), The Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C., as well as two for the Seattle Symphony. Thanks for your consideration and I hope you will approve the page.
Ambrose46 (talk) 21:25, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
May the coming new year grant us all opportunities to help Wikipedia enlighten the world!
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Thank-you for taking the time to read the draft article.
I wonder if you could clarify where the article is and is not going in he right direction. Since the comment of a previous editor that it required secondary sources and evidence of notability, I have added the Ear and Hearing editorial, the BMJ editorial and the article in ENT and Audiology News that commended his work and explained its influence. These editorials are secondary, independent sources and they are referenced and/or hyper-linked correctly. Special mentions in editorials are rather rare, so I imagined that they addressed the issue, but it appears that there is now added criticism of self-promotion Are they helpful?
His work is extensively cited in the academic literature (as evidenced by the linked Google scholar profile), and the vast majority of the 12,000 or so citations will be secondary sources (i.e. not self-citations), but they will mostly be instances of his work being mentioned. I am not sure how I might use them. Would doing so potentially be helpful?
John — Preceding unsigned comment added by CullingJ (talk • contribs) 22:00, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
On 20 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ruth Bettina Birn, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Daniel Goldhagen threatened to sue Ruth Bettina Birn for libel for her critique of his work Hitler's Willing Executioners? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ruth Bettina Birn. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, ), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Alex Shih (talk) 12:02, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Please don't tell people that topics just "aren't notable" unless it's really really blatant. Rather, tell them that they haven't shown that the topic is notable. DS (talk) 02:28, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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Questions and comments about the rejection.
I now understand what Robert McClenon stated that I write in a 19th Century style when I saw this:
The sentence "The honesty and diligence of John Ferrar saved the enterprise" should not be in the voice of Wikipedia. If someone wrote this, quote them. Has this language been copied from another source? (It appears to be written in a nineteenth-century style.) Robert McClenon (talk) 02:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
That was not a quote, that was my language, I was not aware that I write in a 19th Century style. I asked for an example was not provided one. One can not correct that which one does not know needs correcting. I can correct that.
As regards the quote from the Fortnightly Club. I mention up front that it is a quote, and I even provided a citation at the end. I encapsulated it with apostrophes, I thought I did every thing right as partial quotes are acceptable and that was a partial quote. I notice that mentions of the Virginia Company of London were flagged as copyvio's? The Virginia Company of Lonndon is a common reference to the company. There was the Virginia Company of London as distinguished from the Virginia Company of Plymouth (full name actually Company of Knights, Merchants, Gents, Adventurers of the City of Bristol, Exeter and town of Plymouth. Mentioning the Virginia company of London is hardly a copyvio.
That leaves he long quote of the Fortnightly magazine. Even though partial quotes are acceptable. I can rework and paraphrase. Would that be acceptable? I prefer to leave the partial quote as is. If partial quotes are unacceptable copyvio's could you point me to such in WP policy.I would like to understand it so I don't violate the policy. ? ThanksOldperson (talk) 16:53, 23 December 2018 (UTC) @Robert McClenon: After taking a breath and reading the article as it stands. I noticed that I had already removed the 19th Century and emotive language. All that is left is the quote from the Fortnightly magazine, which as I explained was (so I thought) within the parameters of acceptability of WP;. If not could you gentlemen please explain and provide an example. I am not a seasoned editor and help is appreciated.Oldperson (talk) 17:36, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Limited close paraphrasing is appropriate within reason, as is quoting, so long as the material is clearly attributed in the text – for example, by adding "John Smith wrote ...", together with a footnote containing the citation at the end of the clause, sentence or paragraph. Limited close paraphrasing is also appropriate if there are only a limited number of ways to say the same thing.
The quotation that is faulted in my article falls specifically within those guidelines and was tailored to meet them. !.The quote was CLEARLY ATTRIBUTED WITHIN THE TEXT: E.G."Following is a long quote from the Fortnightly Club:", it also had a citation at the end of the quote, and the quote was enclosed in apostrophes, all of this meets and mets the WP policy. I do not wish to be rude, but I posted this on K.e.coffmans page for a reason, I wanted to discuss it with him and get his rationale and explanation but he has not responded. Unless you are an alter ego for K.e..Is that the case? K.e. is reading their talk pagee as there is response to subsequent posts. I ask these questions with trepidation, I am well schooled in human behavior, and do know that some persons when feel "challenged" or perceived to be disrespected will set out on a vendetta or be extremely critical in futuree. I do not charge K.e.coffman with these attributes, but I do no they exist and have encountered or seen them by others on and off WP. I do AGF, but am never the less cautiousOldperson (talk) 19:34, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
@K.e.coffman: Understood apology accepted and likewise I apologize for my behavior. I was confused, in some ways still am,overquoting is one "sin" and an inappropriate topic is another "sin". Oldperson (talk) 21:53, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Wolfram Wette you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 10:22, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Could You explain me about notability of this article? I think this "person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors" in his country in 2000 - 2015. He was one of top-3 Ukrainian musical producers of that age. That is why I wrote his bio and tryed to use independent sources. So how can I improve it for publication in en.wikipedia.org? SavonarolaK (talk) 10:20, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for reviewing the article. Can you suggest what can be improved? Regarding the sources, is 24 sources, not enough? I'm sure once the article is published other people would be able to add more resources. And regarding the tone - what exactly sound promotional? I can remove some info, because I'm not a professional developer, so I used simpler language. Sure other more technical people would be able to add info they find important about such tools helping with localization. As it's holiday season, I'll be able to find some time for editing with your directions. Meli.roden (talk) 13:14, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello K.e.coffman, would you be willing to do a quick pre review of this Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)? ProgrammingGeek moved my sandbox live and you moved it to draft with the comment "Unclear notability; largely self-sourced". Would it be save now to submit it for review at Articles for Creation? Information security and crypto are one of my favorite topics. Thank you, --FlippyFlink (talk) 17:04, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, K.e.coffman! Thank you for reviewing my article. I added new link to this article, it's Fasegraphy - innovative method in cardiology /TechToDay, 02.11.2016 (in Ukrainian). Is it counts as "independent, reliable, published sources"? I really hope that all my addings makes article sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. If no, please help me out to figure what's wrong? Thank you! (talk) 11:07, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your response! As I said before to the previous editor Fainzilberg Leonid was the head of my Ph.D. Thesis, so I know him personally and also we used to work together. Now we are not working at the same organisation and I don't get paid for this article. I'm not advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone, there are already many Wikipedia pages about ukrainian scientists, this is one of them. My goal is to show the world outside Ukraine an outstanding scientist who did a lot for modern science. If after all this is incorrect and I simply have no right to write this article, then I apologize, I could simply misunderstand the rules of Wikipedia. As I understood from the page Wikipedia:Conflict of interest (I read it in Russian, but I hope that the meaning has not changed) I should declare my COI, but I really don't understand where and how. Can you help me with this? Thank you very much for your attention! Santanara (talk) 08:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santanara (talk • contribs)
Hi K.e.coffman, you recently rejected my article Draft: Julian Osula based on conflict of interest. Please know that, I don't know the person neither do I work for him. I created the article for more people to know about the famous Nigerian' King of Luxury Item. Kindly reconsider. Blendar33 (talk) 08:54, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, K.e.coffman. Thanks for viewing my article and for pointing out the inconsistency with high standards of the Wikipedia article. Given all the circumstances, I rewrote the article using the data with links to Google Scholar. And I would like to pre-submit it to you before re-posting. --Drwolf85 (talk) 20:23, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
The article Wolfram Wette you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Wolfram Wette for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:02, 28 December 2018 (UTC)