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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing#Dealing_with_disruptive_editors You have been invited to discuss issues on the ECT talk page but have declined that invitation. Consensus instead of unilateral editing is the process that one is to follow on Wikipedia. Your contribution on the talk page would be welcome.--15:02, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
This is a last invitation to follow Wikipedian guidelines. A well supported sentence, that ECT does not cause brain damage, has been deleted 3 times by you. This has been done without proper citations, as requested, to back up your claim that ECT causes brain damage. Recently you are placed a citation request several times on this same sentence and again offer no support for the request. This goes against WP:VERIFY and this repeated action is seen by editors as disruptive editing. I'd ask you kindly to change your behaviour now.--scuro 03:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
No I dropped my claim to brain damage. After another editor (different from scuro) reverted it. I had agreed in talk to another party. I had stopped deleting the sentence once another editor arrived. I switched to "who", after some other person put "who" in. I said it needs to say psychiatrists(who) beleive it doesn't cause brain damage. In talk under the title you created with my name in it I listed the names of outspoken activists who do NOT accept ECT is not damageing. Therefore you/wiki have to change the sentence to specify who is accepting that ECT causes no brain damage.--Mark v1.0 06:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
my VERIFY ? is a list of outspoken activists [List at bottom]who claim ECT damages the brain. They do not accept, so the sentence has to specify who it is accepted by.--Mark v1.0 06:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
With due respect for your viewpoint, while the reverting has changed you are still targeting the same sentence with unreasonable edits. First you attempted to delete the whole sentence, then you attempted to ask for a citation for the same sentence even though a paragraph of excellent citations and reasoning was provided for you. Now you want to qualify the sentence and that request is also unreasonable. See ECT talk page. Your actions are different but the pattern of behaviour is predictable. WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. Now might be the time to take a long hard look into the mirror. You are passionate and intelligent and have much to offer, it would be wikipedia's loss if you were eventually banned over your instance that the sentence can not stand as is.--scuro 20:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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This was a graph I made on the causes of death of the serious mentally ill .--Mark v1.0 (talk) 15:01, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mark,
I have seen your archived discussion on brain damage caused by electroshock. Your arguments impressed me. Alas, there's a Wikipedia flaw in its system, as you can see in my user page.
Big Pharma sponsors psychiatry, which means that they have, literally, billions of dollars to promote a pseudoscience. The massive data of peer-reviewed journals advocating biopsychiatry are as pseudo-scientific as the tons of peer-reviewed parapsychology journals which purport to demonstrate the paranormal. While Wikipedia is able to deal with paranormal crank theories, once a pseudoscience reaches the academia, like the use of psychiatry against political dissidents in the former Soviet Union, there's little to do except to destroy the commie system. In our case it'll be a little harder to destroy the Therapeutic State since, with the exception of Slovenia, all states approve electroshock.
This is a huge subject. I've read Thomas Szasz, Peter Breggin, Robert Whitaker, Jeffrey Masson, Elliot Valenstein and many more critics. But they're still a minority and, though they're right, Wikipedia cannot recognize it because of its rules. If you want to discuss this in a more private way, just e-mail me.
Cesar Tort 06:16, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Might I suggest that you move the information you just added to, perhaps, the references section so it serves more as a source of information... I do not think that its current location as the very first line in his main arguments section is the appropriate place. In any event, I expect that another editor will soon delete it or move it somewhere else in the article if you do nothing with it. κaτaʟavenoTC 14:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
ok I will move it elsewhere, I was a bit emotional at the time from reading yet another persons enterpritation of what Szasz means when he says that mental illness is not a disease, people understand it as mental illness doesn't exist.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 03:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Mark,
Apologies for my ignorance with respect to Wiki protocol—I am new. I will add my explanation (below) to the discussion section of the page My edit is correct, though, so I'm changing it back.
The substantial capacity test is the American Law Institute model. The American Law Institute (ALI) published the Model Penal Code (MPC) in 1962. With reference to insanity, the MPC says that "a person is not responsible for criminal conduct if at the time of such conduct as a result of mental disease or defect he lacks substantial capacity either to appreciate the criminality of his conduct or to conform his conduct to the requirements of the law."
The phrase "substantial capacity" comes directly from the ALI's definition of insanity in the MPC, which is why there is no need to have two sections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apfg (talk • contribs) 05:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Mark, I'm the editor who closed your DRN request. Rather than just letting you hang out in the cold, I've looked at the Haines article and the Yoder article and I'm afraid that I have to agree with Doc insanity that they're not appropriate, but let me see if I can do a better job of explaining why. The section in Insanity_defense#Psychiatric_treatments in which they appear is about the situation in which a person is charged with a crime, is found not guilty by reason of insanity, and then is involuntarily committed as a part of that same legal process. The assertion to which you are appending the references says, "Authorities making this decision tend to be cautious, and as a result, defendants can often be institutionalized for longer than they would have been incarcerated in prison." The problem is that according to the articles neither Haines nor Yoder were found guilty by reason of insanity. Yoder was directly involuntarily committed in a case in which his alleged crimes were used as evidence, but he was not committed as a result of his acquittal for those crimes and the length of his commitment has nothing to do with the length of sentences which he might have received had he been committed for them. Haines is a much closer case, but he was committed after being pleading guilty (and presumably being found guilty) and the article does not make it clear whether his commitment under UK law was merely after that conviction or somehow grew out of it. (It may be that a plea of "Guilty but Mentally Ill" is possible in the UK and that he plead that, but the article does not say that's what happened.) Either way, however, these cases do not illustrate the idea that a person can be found not guilty (or Guilty but Mentally Ill) but still serve a period of incarceration longer than the sentence that would have ordinarily resulted had they been found guilty of the crime with which they were charged. I hope this helps. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 22:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
TransporterMan - yes, I agree. I was perhaps trying too hard to be conciliatory. Jack Hawkins legal academic & Times reader (talk) 21:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Please don't take this as a criticism as I certainly do not mean it to be that, but instead just a quick note of advice and help. It's not necessary to leave a response to someone's comments in more than one place as you did above and on my talk page. If you're leaving a note on an article talk page or a talk page of some administrative forum or page, it's always expected that the person you're addressing will respond to you there. If you're leaving a note on a user talk page, most experienced users will have an indication on their talk page or, sometimes, on their user page about how they normally carry on conversations. At the top of my user talk page, for example, you'll find a banner that says:
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Hey Mark. Refs for medical content need to be either review articles or medical textbooks per WP:MEDRS. Thanks and happy editing. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
thanks ;)
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I don't know if I should write here on your talk page or mine, so I choose yours as you will definitely see this (my) response. You stated I could contest the deletion of the article Hershey Rosen, but I did not see the place you indicated to click on to file the contestation. The person named Hershey Rosen is important enough for an article because of the significant amount of money he has defrauded people (several million) . In the short article I included two references, one to a newspaper article of 1977 and one of 2010. The person named Hershey Rosen is also named in another Wikipedia article on fraud. The article I wrote was incompletely made due to my inexperience.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hi Mark, i normally use the tool "inpaint" (http://www.theinpaint.com) for my removal work, it is not freeware but saves lots of time in most cases because it is much faster than manual cloning. It gives good results in randomly patterned areas, areas with regular geometrical structures and areas of more or less uniform structure. It has some limitations in certain cases where important image information is really lost and cannot be restored without using human intelligence (eg. restoring a lost window of a building by copying another window into the affected area. In many cases the watermark/timestamp seem just to "disappear". I have a license, so if you have some watermarks to remove feel free to ask.
For difficult cases I use Gimp for manual cloning (i think any other better editor with a "cloning stamp" function would do.) Takes some 10-100 times much time depending on the situation. - Andy king50 (talk) 18:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for catching this. After some checking, the page is actually a composite. The facts stated in the article refer to Hans Heinze, who has a very long article in the deWP, which I will translate part of. There seems also to be a physician named Carl Hansheinze Sennhenn involved in some way with the Nazis, apparently in chemical warfare. I do not have enough information yet to write about him--he seems quite obscure by comparison. The relative dates make it possible that he is the younger relative of the other, thus accounting in some manner for the name.
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I have deleted List of criminal doctors as it was without references making it a WP:BLP violation. You may recreate as long as their are high quality sources. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:44, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
May be of use in the future
I found a criminal list on "List of Physicians" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_physicians#Physicians_famous_as_criminals
I just read that a Wikipedia editor is not supposed to copy and paste deleted text to the talk page of the article. My mistake.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 02:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
The links ALL WORK. You are not looking. Read up on the ((ill)) template before blindly reverting next time. You don't revert because you don't understand. Ask questions next time. Bgwhite (talk) 06:30, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
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(Undid revision 654057487 by Anmccaff (talk)There is no explanation as to why Montreal Streetcars were replaced with combustion buses. Why did the electric streetcar in Montreal get cancelled?)
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Well, as the GM/Streetcar page, as well as several related pages tell, there are a whole slew of possible reasons; what credible sources do you have that suggest that Montreal bus replacement was caused by GM? The Streetcars in Montreal page, for instance, doesn't even mention GM. Anmccaff (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
The buses Montreal used and use are manufactured by GM. I do not have any direct proof on hand.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 11:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Proof.
"the New Look from General Motors, was put into service in 1959." from http://www.stm.info/en/about/discover_the_stm_its_history/history/bus-history --Mark v1.0 (talk) 11:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
The information you keep adding is found in the next paragraph, and irradiation is not only used for those purposes, as it seems dubious that it only effects the surface of the body irradiated, especially as entire pallets of products are irradiated at one time, the food does not require to be rotated, and the waves must pass through other food to get to the target. Also this would make delaying ripening and sterilisation of seeds and pests (to stop germination or reproduction hard. Please provide citation if this is true. 104.2.168.238 (talk) 17:49, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Mark, Thanks for your contribution at Permafrost#Lower limit in permafrost. It's a helpful addition, however two things would benefit from clarification.
I'll plan on doing some tinkering in the meantime. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 17:30, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Mark,
A few months ago I ran across what seemed to me like a rather crude attempt to manipulate Wikipedia in a way that I thought inappropriate, and indeed wicked in the real, i.e. non -pedia, world. The perpetrators, I am sure, thought that they were bringing enlightenment to the masses.
I've quite forgotten who and what it was, so common has this kind of behaviour come to seem to me. Still, I'm sure I shall run across that precise case again, and I'd like your advice on what to do.
Here is the situation, roughly. Within the large swath of American theologians who might quite neutrally be called neo-Calvinist, there is a small minority whom I would judge to be crazed extremists. (I am not sure that this, neo-Calvinist, is the best term, but I intend no offence, nor has any been taken by friends of this faith with whom I have discussed churchly matters. "Crazed extremists" I have no doubts about. Reform and reform tradition are terms used within the group, the "reform" being The Reformation, the dust-up between Martin Luther and Leo X and so forth.)
As now seems to me to be normal, some of these extremists are apparently highly intelligent but obsessed with a small number of ideas which they have spun out into peculiar extensions, while most of them are merely stupid and gullible.
They have invented a bogus theological discipline.
This discipline has supposed experts, teachers, institutions, historical events, doctrines, and of course Biblical Authority, exegesis, a hermeneutics of depth and wisdom previously unknown to the mind of man, you name it, all of it condensed into the Historical Era maybe 1990~2016. Each of these is the subject of a Wikipedia page or stub, and I ran across perhaps twenty screensful of this bumf before I said the hell with it all. The pages all refer to each other with reverence.
I would have liked to have brought it to the attention of somebody in the awesome array of toilers who maintain Wikipedia, but I did not know how to do so.
What should I do the next time I run into these folks?
I've been told not to post my address in places like this, so I hope you can reply to my User page, which I understand is accessible through my four tildes. Damn, but this thing is cleverly put together!
Best wishes,
David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 18:44, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
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Regarding "a deletion-undeletion cycle" you can get the page locked or protected. If anyone breaks the protection their Wikipedia account gets under review and probably blocked.
If the editing war has stopped, you said 2008, then a reasonable approach to the writing of the article would be easier.
A person spends time with what they love, if you love the subject/article , you will spend the time to fight for the correct information to be displayed.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 12:11, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hi there—Dunning–Kruger was removed from the Compulsive hoarding article in this edit with the reason "A hoarder denying that they have a problem isn't a case of dunning-kruger. It applies to ignorance of one's ability and overstatement of it". The term Dunning–Kruger is also not referenced anywhere else within the article outside of your addition to Compulsive hoarding#See also. Can you please provide a little more context why you feel this link should be included in See also even though it is not referenced or discussed within the main body of the article? Thanks! AldezD (talk) 18:02, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Not in this clip but goes with the four criteria.http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/hoarding-buried-alive/videos/a-grave-situation-for-the-kids/ --Mark v1.0 (talk) 00:16, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, Mark, I've just run across something that I'm going to have to fix over the next little while. There is a little knot of errors around the Second and Third Congressional Districts of Indiana, and this unfortunately means errors in a whole bunch of places.
I was reading up on Mike Pence someplace, and it said he represented the Second District at some point. This seemed unlikely to me, since I knew he was from the south end of the state, and from there I found that Wiki had John Brademas in the Third, which is incorrect, and Earl Landgrebe in the Second, which is also false. I know John Brademas was in the Second because I worked for him in the 89th and 90 Congresses, and have walked the streets and driven all around the place, but I don't know the others at all.
It turns out Pence represented the Sixth, according to Wikipedia, for most of his Congressional years, and this seems perfectly plausible to me. I don't know why there is a reference to the Second creeping into his biography.
I'll e-mail John's ex-LA (Legislative Assistant) Jack Duncan, and I'll see who I can make contact with in the others just to make sure I get it right. I'm fairly busy, so I doubt that I'll get around to it for a while, but...
Where should I look to find out who originally wrote those articles? The easiest thing would probably be for me to e-mail them politely once I've got good dates, places and sources.
Anyway, at some point in the middle of the year I'll probably ask you for help. So thanks in advance.
BTW, Is this the easiest way of communicating around here? Isn't there any kind of intra-Wiki mail system?
Cheers,
David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 05:03, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for providing the studies. The full explanation is too long to fit into the summary box, but while the edit says of the first study "the authors concluded ECT is an effective treatment with half of the study participants (30 out of 60) missing", the linked page states:
In other words, 30 out of 60 were either unable or unwilling to consent to the study, but no study participants were left out. The second paper is similar misunderstanding, "In a 2012 paper titled "Knowledge, experience & attitudes concerning electroconvulsive therapy among patients & their relatives" the researchers again left out half of the study participants (77 out of 153)." But the paper states:
So out of 153 patients who recieved ECT at that hospital from 2006-2009, 77 patient-relative pairs responded and participated in the study, 4 could not give consent, and the rest could not be contacted and did not participate.
The wording may be a bit confusing, but in 153-77 and 60-30 the bigger number is the total number of patients who were theoretically eligible to participate in the studies, and the smaller is the number who did. None of the patients who chose to participate appear to have been left out. - Syd (talk) 22:07, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Syd, you are insane.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 10:51, 2 October 2017 (UTC) By their own statistics 16 (11+5) out of 60 have a terrible experience with electroshock. "11 refused to take part" + "five could not take part due to significant cognitive impairment"--Mark v1.0 (talk) 17:16, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
In science the object under study does not have freewill, and does not have an opinion. When studying penicillin, the penicillin doesn't have an opinion. When people have had a bad experience from a medical treatment, it can be expected they will NOT want to participate any further with those that are responsible for the treatment. To remove the people who did not(would not) or could not participate in the study is to alter the science as the collective group under treatment is not counted. The bad/negative outcome report is then not counted alongside the positive/good outcome report . This is then not science. The evidence collected and written about is wrong and the foundation for future work is fundamentally flawed and doomed to fail, as all bad science. Who will police this bad science? I do not know.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 11:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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