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I like what you're doing with the Connecticut River bridges' navbox. Wish I'd thought of it. - Denimadept (talk) 20:42, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Penny. I removed your speedy on The Cadiz Record since it doesn't meet the criteria for a speedy, even though it only has one sentence, it does explain what The Cadiz Record is. But thanks for mentioning it on WP:Journalism and WP:Kentucky. I will try and improve the article a bit, but it might take sometime. Cheers --Patrick (talk) 03:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello Penny, I am doing the Tacoma Narrows Split. It would be nice if you help me updating all the links that refer to the failure of Galloping Gertie as shown in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge you know changing the [[Tacoma Narrows bridge]] to [[Galloping Gertie | Tacoma Narrows bridge]] Diego Torquemada (talk) 06:16, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I saw your comment at the AFD discussion for SS John Stagg. You noted in your comment that the ship was under the control of the U.S. Navy, which, from what I have seen, I believe to be erroneous. Do you have a source that indicates this? Many thanks in advance. — Bellhalla (talk) 13:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
well done Victuallers (talk) 10:38, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, your are listed in WikiProject Bridges and I wondered if you might want to weigh in on a requested move? There is a discussion here Talk:Suspension_bridge_types#Requested_move which results from a previous move. The discussion has major consequences on the content of the main article on suspension bridges? The root question: Is a suspended deck bridge the proper name for a typical suspension bridge? - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 01:57, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I want to thank you for the very considerable effort you are making to polish my Wikipedia contributions to a high gloss. So much attention, from you and from the others you have recruited, is all to the good. --Una Smith (talk) 04:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Penny, regarding the King post page. I have added a gallery in an attempt to clarify your sketch showing members in compression and tension. You are right of course but some people take a lot of convincing. Keep up the good work. Cheers Bill. billbeee (talk) 06:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
You can't prove a negative. It's up to you to show that there is a sibling. - Denimadept (talk) 14:25, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello Penny, I have see your post on Talk:List of longest cantilever bridges about these two kind of bridges, but I have questions, you say that a cantilever bridge have distinct truss sections that are each statically determinate, so we can only determinate a kind of one bridge by seeing the type of calculations engineers have made, or by seeing the kind of link between spans and support? How can we distinguish for example the San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge (east bridge, there is a photo here who is in the cantilever bridge list compared to the Braga Bridge who is in the truss bridge list ? there are many bridges I can't say which kind they are, thank you, --Glabb (talk) 22:49, 25 June 2010 (UTC) Ps: my french wikipedia page :Utilisateur:Glabb and discussion page :Discussion utilisateur:Glabb
Hi Penny, I have just joined WikiProject Bridges and am working on lattice girder bridges in the UK. I am immediately in trouble with terminology (though I trained as a structural/civil engineer 50 years ago).
I am trying to identify and then illustrate a set of bridges which might be described as 'lattice girder bridges'. (My embryonic article is at List of lattice truss bridges in the United Kingdom - though it probably ought to be in a sandbox). Concentrating solely on the UK, there are numerous examples of what I mean, and Braunstone Gate is not one of them! And I admit that we may face a difficulty as between UK and US usages.
Braunstone Gate looks more like a Truss bridge to me. I therefore have to try and define the differences. This is what I can come up with so far:
In a lattice girder bridge:
the top and bottom stringers are horizontal
there are not generally any vertical members
each diagonal member crosses at least one other diagonal member, thus forming what is in common parlance a 'lattice'
in the the theoretical analysis, the top and bottom stringers are each considered as beams ie they carry bending loads
In a truss bridge:
the top stringer (as at Braunston Gate) may not be horizontal
there will generally be vertical members (though not always: cf Warren Truss)
any intersection between any diagonal and any other vertical or diagonal is incidental
in the theoretical analysis, the top and bottom stringers may be regarded as carrying only axial loads.
I would be interested in your thoughts on this, but in any event I would suggest that there are better illustrations of lattice girder bridges than Braunstone Gate, and I would like to replace that image by another from my own list.
Best Regards. Flying Stag (talk) 16:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your response on this. The tentative definitions I put forward were I suppose predictably a ‘dead-end’, but together they have enabled me to clarify how to proceed with the Wikepedia list I mentioned; the purpose of which is to act as an illustrated ready-reference index to a particular type of UK bridge, viz: a bridge which, by close visual resemblance, is derived from (and may be is) a ‘Town’ truss, although that name appears never to have been used in the UK.
That is where my interest lies, and I don’t want to get side-tracked into seeking references which may or may not support one way or another any particular technical descriptions. This is not only because I don’t have the facilities for such research, but more importantly because other editors seem to have tried, without in fact coming up with anything particularly conclusive, eg Leonard G and Kvetner. The latter in fact ducks the issue in one of his posts on his talk page by using the composite form ‘lattice trusses / girders’!
I think in the end we are in fact agreeing on the theoretical definition: that a truss is determinate (for design purposes, no individual member resists bending/shear) and a girder isn’t. However, in general those definitions are not adhered to in Wikepedia, even in articles in the Bridges Wikiproject. If there is any way of clarifying further, I hope perhaps you will let me know.Flying Stag (talk) 16:31, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for that further reference; and it introduces a further issue, namely the description of the lattice as consisting of 'flat, diagonal bars'. This refers directly to the concept of the 'Town' truss, and UK bridges in the late 19th century include many such examples. However, as flat bars were superseded (again, in the UK) by various forms of angle members, the term 'lattice' seems to have been carried forward pretty well indiscriminately in the general literature. I have yet to establish whether the technical literature is any more discriminating, but I rather doubt it! Flying Stag (talk) 12:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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