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Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a two-month trial scheduled to end 15 August 2010.

Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under pending changes. Pending changes is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial. The list of articles with pending changes awaiting review is located at Special:OldReviewedPages.

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SEPTA Regional Rail Bridge = PA Railroad Bridge???

An 1886 map has a railroad bridge at the site of the current SEPTA Regional Rail Bridge. The bridge has the label Penna RR Bridge. Though the original bridge led to a high level grade and the current rails descend to below ground, this might suggest a much older name than SEPTA et al. Map – Plate 1 of JL Smith's Philadelphia 1886 West, Wards 24 and 27 – is on-line at Bridge is in lower-left corner. EdK (talk)

The Lovely Bones

Re this: I'm not entirely sure how that article comes under WP:PHILLY. The book is set primarily in the Philadelphia suburbs (that's why I added it to WP:PENN, with only one short passage where Susie alludes to being in the 30th Street Station, actually being in Philadelphia.

I don't know if the Philadelphia project's scope is broad enough to cover the city's suburbs, much less fictional narratives set in them. I wouldn't put novels set primarily in the New York City suburbs in WP:NYC (of course, there's also two other state projects (WP:CONN and WP:NJ) and two regional projects WP:HVNY and WP:WPLI) that would also cover such an article. There are articles on subjects whose geographic location is outside the city, such as the city's upstate reservoirs, but those have a very strong connection to the city (like, the city actually owns them). Daniel Case (talk) 17:53, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a Philadelphia resident and a member of the Philadelphia and Pennsylvania WikiPedia projects, I can tell you that we have hundreds, if not thousands of articles shown as Philadelphia which are in the Pennsylvania and New Jersey suburbs. So far, the project members have taken an expansive view of the Philadelphia project scope, sometimes even broader than I would think wise, especially people from Cecil County, Maryland. Whether this book should be in the Philadelphia project, I added it, but I will ask on the project talk page, if you think it is doubtful. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:53, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem, then, if it fits in the defined scope. Just thought I'd ask. Daniel Case (talk) 22:12, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Breaks on your user page

I noticed you have a lot of html breaks on your user page. One good alternative is to use ((break)) It has a parameter so you can do multiple line breaks like ((break|20)) Ryan Vesey Review me! 01:15, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good idea, good to implement tomorrow! --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:17, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Hi! I'm a student at Clemson University and have been editing the Kingstree, South Carolina page for my English class. I noticed that in the history you have edited the page. I went through your history and it looks like you edit Wikipedia a lot. I was wondering if you could give me some feedback on my recent edits?

Funkymonkey021993 (talk) 19:16, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can do that. I will look at Kingstree, South Carolina, and any other contributions you have made, perhaps not right away.--DThomsen8 (talk) 21:03, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If the population went down in 2009, then the population density would go down, too. Since the 2010 Census is done, wouldn't the 2010 population and density be available? --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE 2011 Year-End Report

Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report

We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report.

  • Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261
  • Report on coordinators' elections
  • Around 1,000 articles removed through six Backlog elimination drives
  • Guild Plans for 2012
  • Requests page report
  • Sign up for the January 2012 Backlog elimination drive!

Get your copy of the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report here
On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. We look forward to your support in 2012!
– Your 2011 Coordinators: Diannaa (lead), The Utahraptor, and Slon02 and SMasters (emeritus).

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 06:07, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

this is a test!!

I'm taking you up on practicing on contacting you!! I only just now saw YOUR reply to me at the bottom of my page; I suppose I didn't scroll down far enough before and did not even know there was a reply. At any rate, this is pretty cool. Sad that so few have ever responded to your welcome greeting, but don't get me started on the general demise of etiquette and good manners to which I've been witness in my lifetime!!

Be that as it may, what led me to this particular point tonight is that I am watching "Hotel Rwanda" and, of course, had to pull it up on Wikipedia to read about the movie. I noticed another error that is beyond my knowledge-base to figure out how to correct. If you go to the webpage and scroll down to "Cast", you will notice there is nothing there. Scroll almost to the bottom of the page and you will see the cast listed after the soundtrack. OK, now here is the weird part. I went into "edit" thinking that I'd just cut and paste the cast listing where it belonged, but in the edit section, the cast list appears where it SHOULD, under the heading of "Cast". Yep, I'm baffled and mystified. I checked it a few times, back and forth, just to make sure I wasn't seeing things, which has been known to, like I said, I don't know how to fix this AT ALL!!! Yet, I'm obviously nerdy enough to let it bother me to the point where I found your reply, and here we are.

Thank you again for your time and your "ear" out there. I unabashadly admit that this is my idea of fun! I've always loved language and enjoy proofing and editing, so finding that I can indulge myself on Wikipedia has been a blast!!

Thank you again!!

(Can we sign our first name or is that a no-no? I did as a matter of reflex but then deleted it and replaced it with this question. I don't know if that's allowed or not...)Johngalt288 (talk) 05:38, 4 January 2012 (UTC)johngalt2788[reply]

You are quite welcome! Take a look at the "toolbox" on the left of this page, and you will see that you can send me an email. You can set yourself up for emails if you like, just go to "preferences" at the top and look around at the choices there. Hotel Rwanda (with link) is the best way to mention an article. I will take a look later and maybe make a fix. If you enjoy copyediting, look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. You should be fairly experienced before joining, but I think you would like the drives they (and I!) do. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:44, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I knew without looking it up who John Galt is. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:44, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Kemeys's "Lincoln"?

Not this one!

I wondering if you know this statue [2] I take "East River Road" to mean Kelly Drive - although there is a 2 block stretch still named East River Drive where the sculpture ain't. It also is not the Rogers sculpture of Lincoln just north of Philly Museum of Art.

I can't find any other reference to it - though the SIRIS database is supposed to be authoritative. Any help appreciated. BTW List of public art in Philadelphia is coming along. Smallbones (talk) 05:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have written to Jennifer Richards of the Fairmount Park Art Association about your question, and copied you on the email. They have an excellent database of public art throughout the city, not just in the parks, and she is likely to respond fairly soon. Jennifer has spoken to the civic association several times.
I see you are doing good work on the list of public art in Philadelphia. There are plenty more art works to be added, maybe in the thousands, so it will be a long time before it is done.--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:07, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Got the e-mail copy, but haven't heard from Jennifer yet. 200 before spring! Smallbones (talk) 02:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GLAM/Delaware Art Museum

"including" near the top, 2 cases of double *'s, looks ok now? See similar list at Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery, maybe I can get numbers (from the museum) like they do? I'd include it now if the pix line up in the whole article ok. Otherwise I'd wait until I get more text up front. Thanks. Smallbones (talk) 15:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, looks better with your changes. If you ask the museum for numbers, see if you can get a picture for the final subsection. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:43, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think modern section pic will be possible because of copyright restrictions Smallbones (talk) 15:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I agree that both the file and a permission from the museum would be required, but I know it can be done. Let me check, but I suspect some of these artists have WikiPedia or WikiMedia Commons images already. See Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team for how the copyright permissions are handled. When could we go ahead with using my draft instead of the live article section?--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:42, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I expanded the article a bit and put in your new Collections section. Actually, the problem on copyrights is not so much the museum as it is the creators (who generally own the copyright). I think with paintings (other than those of John Sloan, which might have copyrights controlled by the museum) it will be impossible. But sculptures are a bit different - there are 2 at the museum that I can document the dates (have to be pre-1978) for sure (one early 20th century, one post WWII). I'd need to personally see that there is no visible copyright notice on them, and take the photo myself (2D rules don't apply). When I go down myself, I'll have to take 4 books back, so I might delay!. Smallbones (talk) 17:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. See Found (Rossetti) which got almost 20k page views over 2 days via DYK, The Flower Book (Edward Burne-Jones), which is up for a DYK, and I'm going to shoot for another Love's Messenger painting by Marie Spartali Stillman, if I can get it ready in time for Valentine's Day. Smallbones (talk) 17:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
While I think the new Collections section is much better, there is a contrary opinion from LoriLee (link will be added later).--DThomsen8 (talk) 21:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Beyond that, check out [[3]] , the German Wikipedia article on the Delaware Art Museum, which includes images and information not in the English article. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I got a note from LL - she is entitled to her opinion like anybody else. The German, after a double translation, could be a copyright violation. The extra pix I don't like. What extra info there would you include? Would you like to put in something about expositions - from their website? Smallbones (talk) 21:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Am writing some e-mails today. This book might be interesting: Smallbones (talk) 16:15, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delinking cities?

Hi! I noticed here and here that you delinked the cities as a "typo". Is there a new consensus not to link cities? I may have missed it - but it seemed surprising to me that a wikilinked city is a "typo". Thanks StarM 00:15, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, not a typo, although I was mainly running WP:AWB to correct typographical errors and to make various other technical corrections to articles. In general, city names should only be linked once in an article. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking and especially the section on overlinking. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also, notice that in both instances you cited, the city name is linked in the infobox. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
thanks, didn't realize linking in the infobox trumped the text since most of the info there is repeated anyway. Will be mindful going forward StarM 02:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Many articles have the link in both places, and some far more than that. The absurd links are the many links to USA following the city and state. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't seen that as much. My favorite was one museum article that had every instance of "museum" wikilinked. I'm pretty sure my head exploded even before someone edit warred with me to retain all of them StarM 05:21, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the guideline you cite specifically says that links may be repeated in infoboxes and captions. I find it annoying to have to go look in the infobox when a small town is not linked at its natural first occurrence, like Mayfield in Oliver Rice House. Hqb (talk) 12:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


thank you for your question. the "•" delimiters are now deprecated in favour of using WP:HLIST. basically, by adding either '| listclass = hlist' or '| bodyclass = hlist' to a navbox, the '*' list syntax is formatted as a flat list by your browser (courtesy of some stuff in MediaWiki:common.css). This allows visually impaired users to read the navbox as a list, rather than having the screen reader read a bunch of 'dots'. there are scripts to assist with the conversion, which is what I was using when I converted that navigation box. in the future, you can add a new entry by just adding a new line starting with an asterisk. let me know if you have questions. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 15:51, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maxfield Parrish

Thanks for catching my typo; I really shouldn't edit on my iPad late at night.

In Commons, Creator templates like Commons:Creator:Maxfield Parrish are used to populate the "author" parameter of Information templates or the artist parameter of Artwork templates. The Creator template contains biographical information about the artist and automatically collapses when used inside one of the other templates. The Creator template translates the information on nationality, occupation, and other values into multiple languages according to the reader's language preference. You can also add parameters like "school of", "after, "attributed to", etc. Full documentation here: Commons:Template:Creator.

If we're adding or cleaning up image collections in Commons as part of a GLAM project, then I like to see Information templates upgraded to Artwork templates which have fields for accession numbers, credit lines, and the like, and these should have Creator templates for represented artists, an Institution template for the Museum, and Size and Technique templates, all of which help make the content accessible in multiple languages.

Thanks for the link to the Tiffany panel; I had no idea about Steve Wynn wanting to move it to Las Vegas! - PKM (talk) 02:48, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the Creator template explanation. They seem like the right approach for artists with images of several works of art.
The Dream Garden fight was a more complicated story than you have there, but we Philadelphians didn't let him do it. Same thing, basically, with The Gross Clinic painting. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:55, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've put all info I have on FPAA there. The purpose is to sort it out, delete the stuff not needed immediately. Increase the FPAA article 5 times to over 2,100 characters with spaces so that it will qualify for DYK. Feel free to edit there - but remember the purpose is to edit, restate, and delete - we've still got good info on our home computers! Smallbones (talk) 14:38, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. The Washington statue, I'm 99.9% sure, is just a mistake in the Smithsonian SOS (Save our Sculptures) database. Smallbones (talk) 15:05, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe, but then perhaps the FPAA has enough clout to get the database corrected. (Lincoln, or Washington?)--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:10, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Recent assessments

Thank you for taking the time to clear out the lingering un-assessed articles for WP:UNI. However, you rated all four as start class, and I am wondering why you rate North Pacific College, Ford Hall (Willamette University), and Prewitt–Allen Archaeological Museum as start class? While certainly not GA (and obviously you can't assess it as such without the formal process), but I thought each was at least a C class, if not B class based on the UNI criteria. Start class is for fairly incomplete article, so what more needs to be added to get above Start? Thank you. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:40, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, these articles are at least class=C, and I have changed my too hasty assessments for all three articles. I leave it to others to decide if it should be higher classes. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:29, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reconsideration. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update

GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graphs

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter.

Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far.

Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers.

Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk)

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GOCE word counts

Hi. I'm just checking through the drive page and found that your word counts add up to a different number than you've stated for the total. But (fascinated with a 5-word count) I took a look at Flag Day (disambiguation) and realised you only counted what DrPDA would have spotted. The list would have added another 249 to that count. So I don't want to do a "correction" that is wrong. What's the right thing here? --Stfg (talk) 10:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The right thing is to add up what I have entered: 151 + 25 + 11 + 607 + 5 + 385 + 20 + 620 + 333 + 303 + 836 + 76 + 591 = 3,963, and then add 2123 rollover, making 6086. The numbers I have entered are those that "Page size" in the menu provide. Lists and disambiguation pages are mostly entries with *, which are not counted by "Page size" in the word count. You are right, my total was wrong, but I am content with the 5, and 11, and 20, and 25 counts. I have corrected my total. Please explain to me how you make the page of 5 have a count of 249, but I don't care if I am a bit low on my total. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:44, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much. I made it 254 (249 extra) by copying into a word processor and using its word count. I do that (several of us do), not for raw lists of names and suchlike that don't require copy editing, but for lists of prose entries that do, like the one in that page. The entry in the total-words field should be just the total for articles; we add in the rollover before giving out the barnstars. This is needed for the large counts because leaderboard entries only consider words done in the current drive, and for consistency otherwise. I'll make that change now. Your barnstar and rollover to May are calculated from the 6086 figure, of course. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 13:06, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I did not know that the total was before the rollover number was added, even though I have participated in several earlier drives. Well, if you are going to increase the Flag Day count, would List of alternate history fiction be increased way beyond 11? What about 25 words for List of local governments in the United Kingdom?--DThomsen8 (talk) 13:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you were an well-known member of GOCE before I ever arrived. I think I'd have done the same as you did in both those cases. There's a lot of prose in List of alternate history fiction, possibly over 7000 words, but as there was only the one typo I think you did the respectable thing there. In List of local governments in the United Kingdom there's not much prose. You did what the article needed, and I certainly wouldn't nickel-and-dime you if you felt a bit more credit was due, but once again I think I'd have done the same. What definitely has to be said is THANK YOU for being willing to look at such articles even though the amount of credit you were expecting for them was so small. I'm going to go and change the count for Flag Day (disambiguation) now, but will leave the other two to your discretion. Best regards, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 16:07, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We agree entirely, Simon. I only asked because I like to understand how any process works, and not because I want any more credit. There is a small ulterior motive to doing lists and other very short articles, it can boost the number of articles done, and improve the overall statistics. This month I was not quick enough to get on the leader board by the number of articles, let alone word count, but some drives I have a list of targets organized for the first few days, and go flying into it, only to slow down later. I was also looking over a long article, but I finally decided it was too hard for this month. I do some things for every article I do copy editing on that is not strictly required, especially I make sure the talk page has the appropriate templates, and if it has comments without a heading, I put in a ==Comment== section head. I also try to fix orphan status, too. Now April is here, I have a month off from copy editing, but I do other systematic work, trying to get all Delaware articles to have templates, and trying to get the Category:All unreviewed new articles number down carefully, adding tags for deficiencies that I don't correct and talk page templates. Maybe you might like to do a few of those? --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive
GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graph

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! This is the most successful drive we have had for quite a while. Here is your end-of-drive wrap-up newsletter.


Of the 70 people who signed up for this drive, 40 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Special acknowledgement goes out to Lfstevens, who did over 200 articles, most of them in the last third of the drive, and topped all three leaderboard categories. You're a superstar! Stfg and others have been pre-checking the articles for quality and conformance to Wikipedia guidelines; some have been nominated for deletion or had some preliminary clean-up done to help make the copy-edit process more fun and appealing. Thanks to all who helped get those nasty last few articles out of the target months.

Progress report

During this drive we were successful in eliminating our target months—October, November, and December 2010—from the queue, and have now eliminated all the 2010 articles from our list. We were able to complete 500 articles this month! End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here.

When working on the backlog, please keep in mind that there are options other than copy-editing available; some articles may be candidates for deletion, or may not be suitable for copy-editing at this time for other reasons. The ((GOCEreviewed)) tag can be placed on any article you find to be totally uneditable, and you can nominate for deletion any that you discover to be copyright violations or completely unintelligible. If you need help deciding what to do, please contact any of the coordinators.

Thank you for participating in the March 2012 drive! All contributions are appreciated. Our next copy-edit drive will be in May.

Your drive coordinators – Dianna (Talk), Stfg (Talk), and Dank (talk)

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EdwardsBot (talk) 21:59, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They've requested some help, so I started the project page and signed you up. Of course feel free to remove yourself if you'd like. Smallbones (talk) 17:10, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just tell me how I can help. I have not been able to find enough information about their two big donors to do an article. Maybe they can help with that. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Think "Philly," like Philly Cheese Steak - this is about the Philadelphia Museum of Art. Some suggestions: set up articles, importance, and ratings, as well as the table like you did at DAM. Maybe check the articles of the adjacent areas Eaton Oval, Franklin Parkway, Waterworks, etc. for anything obviously missing or messed up. And, of course, put on your art critic's cap - i.e. quote the heck out of some art books. Can we get rid of Rocky and his steps? Smallbones (talk) 00:50, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Rocky and the steps are forever connected with the Art Museum, and should be part of the article. I have a whole book on the steps, with photos of visitors from all over the world who came to see the statue and run or walk up the steps. I have too much going on to do much on the PMA before summer. Leave me signed up, but don't expect much. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:23, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for May 2012 GOCE drive

The Modest Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Dthomsen8 for copy editing 4 articles and achieving a total of 5598 words during the Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you for your contribution. --Stfg (talk) 08:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE May drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 54 people who signed up this drive, 32 copy-edited at least one article. Last drive's superstar, Lfstevens, again stood out, topping the leader board in all three categories and copy-editing over 700 articles. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We were once again successful in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog—while removing 1166 articles from the queue, the second-most in our history. The total backlog currently sits at around 2600 articles, down from 8323 when we started out just over two years ago.

Coodinator election: The six-month term for our third tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the fourth tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg

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Merge banner

Thanks for all your assistance. I know that I'm on auto patrolled now. I have a quick question for you. In April, when I was still a newbie, I wrote a short article on The Indian Bean Tree, St James Square, Monmouth, one of my first for MonmouthpediA. At the time, I didn't know much about accessing information about Monmouth, Wales, so I had relatively few sources. In May, a merge banner popped up on that article and my St James Square, Monmouth article, suggesting that the tree article be merged into the square article. However, with two more months of Wikipedia under my belt, I thought that I could do the tree article justice. So, the past couple of days I've completely rewritten and expanded the article and added some great sources. The article is fairly comprehensive. I've removed the merge banner. However, if that is considered rude or presumptuous, I just need to have someone let me know. Thanks. Anne (talk) 06:11, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are fine in this situation. Look at Talk:St James Square, Monmouth where the merge discussion took place, and you participated in that discussion. Two other editors participated, and also participated in the Bean Tree article, so they have supported your work on the article. You could look into borrowing the book mentioned on Talk:St James Square, Monmouth through your public library or inter-library loan. Thank you for consulting me, feel free to do so anytime. Now that you are on auto patrol, I won't get to see your new articles in the catalog, but I will take a look at your contributions. Incidentally, did you see my email? I made a low-key suggestion there. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:41, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their July 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on July 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on July 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to eliminate the articles tagged in April, May and June 2011 from the queue and to complete all requests placed before the end of June. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 6 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in April–June 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg.

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My Articles "Issues"

Thanks for welcoming me. My new page [N. Cruz] was labeled as having "issues" which I think I have rectified. How do I go about getting the article reviewed and the issues box removed? Avilalinn (talk) 05:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I looked over the article again, and I removed two of the tags as being rectified. There is still a question of notability in my mind, but I know little about community based learning. If you look at the toolbox, the first choice is "What links here" and for this article, nothing of significance, making this article an "orphan" in Wikipedia jargon. The notability and orphan tags remain on the article. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:46, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and restored the unaddressed maintenance tags on the above referenced article. In particular, the article requires copy editing for spelling and wikification for consistency in formatting. Generally, I would go ahead and make the edits myself, but with the initial editor creating numerous articles from a template with typos and formatting that is not in compliance with the Manual of Style for biographies, I'm a bit spent. Feel free to contact me if you have questions. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 22:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did not see in this article what you have seen, nor did I know that this is part of a process of creating numerous articles. If there are more articles than this one, then there could be a notice placed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/July 2012 about the situation. --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:42, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you may want to take another look at Richmond Fire Department as I have began rescuing it and now it has independent sources including some unambiguous in depth coverage of one of the many environmental catastrophes that occur in Richmond and that this department in particular is notorious for dealing with. I have found more sources and will be adding them, thanks for giving it a second look and if you have any input or could help expand, copyedit, or trim the article in any way please be my guest. Thank you. -Troy.LuciferWildCat (talk) 02:38, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Restored copy edit tag

Hello Dthomsen8. I've restored the ((copyedit)) tag to John Hastings (cricketer) since it has a clear need for a copy edit. In it there is "A tall all-rounder who combines right-arm fast-medium bowling with strong lower-order batting.", which is not a sentence. A little later: "Hastings impressed with the ball in his first one-day games for Victoria and grabbed three wickets in six deliveries on debut in 2007–08 when he was asked to bowl at the death against Queensland." To dismantle it:

Hastings impressed with the ball [journalistic cliché]
in his first one-day games for Victoria and grabbed [slang]
three wickets in six deliveries on debut [should be "on his debut"]
in 2007–08 [comma missing]
when he was asked to bowl at the death [what on earth does that mean?]
against Queensland.

That needed to become something like "Hastings bowled well in his first one-day games for Victoria, taking three wickets in six deliveries on his debut in 2007–08, when he was asked to bowl at the death[clarification needed] against Queensland."

Please remember what Dianna often points out, that we may be the only competent writers to visit an article for a very long time, and take care not to decline needed copy edits. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 19:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Dthomsen8, we just spoke about image uploading and Wikimedia Commons in the dining room at the pre-Wikimania hackathon. I just wanted to leave a quick note here so we've got each other's contact information. Cheers, Emw (talk) 14:10, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help Please

I'm sorry, I just realized that I left you a message without a heading, so I'm repeating here. I apologize if there's any redundancy -- With regard to the article I wrote, New York College of Health Professions," I do take your comments seriously and constructively. As a relatively new editor, I also appreciate your help in offering suggestions to make the article non-promotional and well referenced. Please note that new references have been added where citations were requested. Revisions to several sentences have also bee edited to make them less promotional. I can not find any other sentences without substantiation, that could be considered promotional. If you still feel the article is too promotional, would you please be kind enough to provide some specifics? Please note that since this college is institutionally accredited, all claims made by the college in their catalogue, website or other literature are continuously monitored and approved by the accrediting agency, I.E. the New York State Board of Regents and the Commissioner of Education. No unsubstantiated claims have been made here.

In summary and in good faith, I am trying to do everything possible to comply with Wikipedia rules, regulations and guidelines. The current revisions should, hopefully satisfy your concerns. If not, please provide some specifics that I can address. Otherwise, These notices on the top of the article reflect unfairly on the schools well established and substantiated credibility. Please remove them as quickly as possible as they've been up for over two months. Thank you for your help, concern and consideration. Dkolarek (talk) 14:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I took some tags off, but added one for more references, since other editors have left citation needed tags on the article. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:30, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template etherpad

Here you go: and thank you for the hat! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:11, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 45 people who signed up this drive, 31 have copy-edited at least one article. Lfstevens continues to carry most of the weight, having edited 360 articles and over a quarter of a million words already. Thanks to all who have participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, will be available early in August here.

Progress report: We are once again very close to achieving in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog. Only 35 such articles remain at press time. The total backlog currently sits at under 2400 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We are just two articles away from completing all requests made before July 2012 (both are in progress).

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Nice meeting you at wikimania

Hi there, I finally wrote this blog post about you. Hope you like it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lansey (talkcontribs) 17:44, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July 2012 drive barnstars!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For copy editing more than 20,000 words in the July 2012 drive, I hereby award you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar. Your efforts are greatly appreciated! —Torchiest talkedits 02:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Leaderboard Award—5th place, 5k+ Articles
For completing one 5k article in the July 2012 drive, you have earned the GOCE Silver Star Award. Nice work! —Torchiest talkedits 02:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your great idea :)

What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
For getting the ball rolling to improve photographic coverage of Guyana Loriski (talk) 17:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. have replied to your message on my talkpage :)

A(nother) Barnstar for you

The WikiProject Barnstar
For all your hard work in getting WikiProject Guyana going again. Thank you! Lorelei (talk) 14:48, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I used AWB to gather a list of articles missing the WikiProject University of Pennsylvania tag from Category:University of Pennsylvania and it's subcats. The list includes alumni of UPenn. Should they get the tag, or should I filter them out of the list. Once I'm done, I'll put in a bot request to tag all of the articles if there are a lot. Ryan Vesey 15:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to move this to the WikiProject page if you think it should be there. Ryan Vesey 15:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good work! Go ahead and tag them all. I see your good work elsewhere, too. Penn may have more entries than Penn State or Pitt when you are done. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:19, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll quick notify the other members to see if there's any opposition and put in the bot request within the next few days. There are 2381 pages I'd tag. I'll post the list in a sandbox. It's amazing some of the things that we missed (like The Daily Pennsylvanian). It's been a long time since I've done any work on those articles (and will still be a long time outside of the tagging. I've currently got a list of 9,000 some Olympics articles that need to be checked and/or improved to include results. Plus I'm working on a couple of ship articles. Ryan Vesey 15:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Go for it! I don't expect any opposition, but it is wise to be cautious. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:27, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There were some duplicates that I removed. See User:Ryan Vesey/University of Pennsylvania for the full list. Ryan Vesey 15:28, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I just thought I'd let you know that I started a BRFA at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Ryan Vesey Bot 3Ryan Vesey 00:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guyana Sources...

Hiya! Mike Christie has very kindly given us a list of online sources, and a list of books he has that WikiProject GY members could contact him about if they would like him to look something up in them (see my talkpage for more info)... I have added them to the sources list you made on the talkpage. It made me realise too that I should make a similar list of books I have available, so I will do this in the next day or two. As we've got a decent list of sources now, I wondered if we should perhaps add these to the main page of the project so they're more easily visible and accessible? Lorelei (talk) 01:12, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a go at doing something about this... I've drafted a WikiProject Guyana/Projects and Resources Page here. If you have the time, perhaps you could look it over quickly, and see if you think it's okay? If so, I'll move it into Wikipedia and then add a link from the main project page... Lorelei (talk) 13:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We did parallel work without knowing what the other was doing. Please see the Guyana project page for the addition I made, based on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Pennsylvania#Divisions section. This uses two templates found in many project pages, so it is important to do things a standard way. What you have is much longer, but much of it can be inserted into what I created. Take a look. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, this is great - thank you :) Is there a standard place/form for including a 'sources' section? I saw the Pennsylvania project had an image sources section at the bottom of the page; would it work okay to do the same with our list of sources? Lorelei (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will work on the project page on Thursday, integrating what you have created with the framework I borrowed from the Pennsylvania project. I am not sure where to put the sources, perhaps on a secondary page attached to the project page. However, we must remember WP:BB is a Wikipedia principle. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That would be wonderful - thank you :) I noticed that WikiProject African Diaspora has a similar list of sources, which they put at the bottom of the page ... Lorelei (talk) 09:32, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've only just noticed...

The Premium Reviewer Barnstar
For your incredible work in getting the number of Unassessed Guyana Articles down to 0 (amazing!) and for all this reviewing work that you've been doing over the last few days. Thank you! Lorelei (talk) 13:42, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help or advice on an art-related article?

Hi Dthomsen8, a Wiki-knowledgable friend recommended contacting editors who had contributed to art collective or art-related pages on Wikipedia in the past to ask for help with my problem. I see from your history that includes you. I'm trying to create a page for the Good/Bad Art Collective which existed in Denton, Texas from 1993-2001, see my efforts here: It keeps getting rejected. Originally I thought it was too long (at first I listed the collective's major works, and member's names) but then it just seem to boil down to not having "cited sources related to the collective itself" But I don't understand how articles by art reviewers in The Dallas Observer newspaper, The Houston Chronicle and The Village Voice are related to the collective… they are reviews of their work. The collective existed for 8 years, had over 200 members and created 150 works and instillations. And, several ex-members have gone onto become famous artists. Plus, I have no relation to Good/Bad and am not or ever was a member. My friend (who used to edit on Wikipedia a lot, mainly the Judy Garland page, but hasn't in a year) suggested contacting someone with a bit more knowledge about art scenes. Looking at the history he thinks it's being rejected by people sticking too-close to Wikipedia rules and current issues, and can't see its relevance beyond that. Just a hunch? I see many other art collectives, even some who existed just a few years ago, have Wikipedia entries that have done far less than Good/Bad ever did. Do you mind taking a look and seeing what you think? Any suggestion you may have would be GREATLY appreciated. This is my first article for Wikipedia, and I'm determined to make it work because I know it's relevant. It was originally much more detailed. Thank for your time! MarkAllen5 (talk) 02:00, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the article, added links and emphasis to the title, all standard features of an article like this, but I doubt that such changes will make any difference to reviewers. My initial reaction to your request for suggestions is that you should be gaining experience editing existing articles on Wikipedia, perhaps in the field of art, or about Texas, but learning about how Wikipedia works, before doing the more difficult task of creating a new article. Beyond that, let me sleep on it, and I will comment further tomorrow. Oh, while I have contributed to articles about the Delaware Art Museum and some other art-related articles, I am far from being expert on the subject of art, compared with some other fields, especially technical ones. Perhaps I can find someone else to help you further. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:32, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! All good food for thought. I'll take you suggestions. And thanks for the additions. If you do think of anyone to send my way please do... and if you've thought of more after sleeping on it, please share. I've been looking into doing more editing and probably will...within similar subject matters. MarkAllen5 (talk) 03:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep on learning. I do. Indent your replies. --DThomsen8 (talk) 03:37, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guyana Census


All the information about Official Censuses in Guyana I am taking from the (Gov. of Guyana) Bureau of Statistics Records for the 2002 Official Census. (I tried to track it down after seeing the population listings on the administrative regions which said they were from an official census but had no reference). Chapter 3 has all the information about the population for the administrative regions according to official censuses in 1980, 1991 and 2002 (p. 51). According to their website, the 2012 census has not yet been completed - and judging by the last one (2002, published in 2007) it may be sometime after that before the results are published. Following your tips about WebCite and archiving, I am trying to archive these documents to make sure they're there for future reference. Lorelei (talk) 16:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So you are telling me that there are population numbers for administrative regions, but not for particular cities or towns? --DThomsen8 (talk) 16:14, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've had a quick scan of all the documents and can't find any listings of town/village populations... Lorelei (talk) 17:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
However, there are a few listings for major towns here though I can't tell how reliable this source is... Lorelei (talk) 17:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually Dthomsen8, the information is all there at the Bureau of Stats website (address given above). Down towards the bottom of the page, they give links to records made up at town-level and village-level (as well as NDC-level i.e. regional). I've just downloaded and opened these, and the 'Gender' section of both sets of documents also gives a 'total' listing for each town and village :) Lorelei (talk) 18:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So, develop a standard archived source for population of towns as an inline citation, and be ready to use it on any particular town now without that information. Same thing for administrative districts. Many places are stubs, but with three inline citations, could become start level articles. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Great! One problem I am having is that I can't figure out how I would be able to archive these sources, as I can't produce an url for specific documents (as they're all links to zip/compressed downloads) but only to the Bureau of Statistics website... Is there any way around this? I noticed that whoever created the Regions of Guyana article had managed to open one of the documents as a web-page with an address (and I used this to create the link in all the other articles), but my computer automatically 'opens' these as PDF downloads, and therefore without an url. Do you know of any way around this? Lorelei (talk) 18:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do I know of a way around this? No, but I will look into it. Please provide the URL and anything else that might help, right here with leading * for formatting. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally, it would be great if we could archive:
  • Town Level Data by Population
  • Village Level Data by Population
  • At least Chapter 3 of the 2002 Population & Housing Census - Guyana National Report (ideally the whole report)
Thank you so much for looking into this. Lorelei (talk) 19:06, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AWB de-linking edits

Your recent crop of AWB edits removed a number of wikilinks within article text, including [4], [5], [6], and [7], among others. These appear to be well-intentioned but nevertheless questionable automated edits. It looks to me like the tool is suggesting de-linking because these are not the first links in the article, but the problem is that the first links are appearing in infoboxes. Readers aren't going to naturally think to look to infoboxes to know there might be a wikilink to another topic in the encyclopedia. Would you take a look and let me know your thinking on these (and related) edits?  Frank  |  talk  14:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Commonwealth (U.S. state) - Removed link to Kingdom of Great Britain. Is that link likely to ever be followed?
  • Coal Wars - Removed link to the United States. The article mentions Appalachia, Colorado, and the Eastern United States,

all of which are obviously in the United States. Why would the link to the United States ever be followed?

After reviewing these four instances, I don't think that any of these link removals are signficant, but I did roll back two of them.

In general, AWB shows an editor every instance of two or more repeated links in an article, and provides the opportunity to remove one instance by clicking on it, and of course more can be removed in the edit window. That is what I have done. Probably I will not do as many of them in the future. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:48, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review; I don't think it matters what links we think will be followed but I appreciate that you took the time to review. Did you review the others you made in that spate of edits? I didn't do an exhaustive search but rather contacted you when I felt there was enough to warrant a discussion. My list wasn't complete.  Frank  |  talk  03:41, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GLAM PMA folks! I wanted to update you about some recent events related to our fantastic Museum. I met Jessica Milby, PMA Collections Information Project Manager, at Wikimania in July. Jessica was looking for ways to improve articles on Wikipedia about the Museum and its artists/collections. We followed up a few weeks later at the Perelman Building in downtown Philadelphia where we discussed ways to increase participation in the GLAM/PMA project.

  • The first idea is to do some outreach to the GLAM:PMA project members, including mass messages updating you all about plans and, seeking feedback about new ideas, and hearing your thoughts about what's in the works.
  • The next step is a drive to improve the main Philadelphia Museum of Art article. The article is currently 'B-Class', but Jessica was confident that with the abundance of high quality sources about the Museum that it could be improved even further. Jessica recommended this extensive source from the Museum's website.
  • Another idea that came out of the meeting was a project within the Museum to assess which PMA-related topics are missing articles on Wikipedia.
  • One of Jessica's ideas is to have the knowledgeable curators of the Museum provide recommended reading lists for PMA-related articles. That should be a great first step to guiding editors towards the information they need to expand and improve that content.
  • Also raised for discussion were some ideas about how to engage the broader community. There is interest in setting up a tour/edit-a-thon, but this remains in the preliminary stage. Would you be interested in participating in such an event?
  • We have new stats! These 24 articles are all under the PMA project. I compiled the last 90-day page views and then annualized the results. PMA-related articles get almost 800,000 view per year!
See the stats!
Article Importance Class View last 90 days Views annualized
Philadelphia Museum of Art Top B 22,790 91,160
The Concert Singer High B 783 3,132
Crucifixion Diptych (van der Weyden) High C 1,500 6,000
Perelman Building High C 986 3,944
The Gross Clinic High C 12,897 51,588
William Rush and His Model High C 1,038 4,152
Nude Descending a Staircase, No. 2 High Start 26,892 107,568
Rodin Museum High Start 5,323 21,292
Soft Construction with Boiled Beans (Premonition of Civil War) High Start 11,026 44,104
The Bride Stripped Bare By Her Bachelors, Even High Start 13,639 54,556
Wedding dress of Grace Kelly High Start 5,810 23,240
Étant donnés High Stub 7,464 29,856
Bird in Space High Unassessed 10,365 41,460
Diana (Saint-Gaudens) High Unassessed 1,450 5,800
Interior (Degas) High Unassessed 2,434 9,736
The Bathers (Cézanne) High Unassessed 7,166 28,664
Three Musicians High Unassessed 9,421 37,684
The Fairman Rogers Four-in-Hand Mid C 736 2,944
Anne d'Harnoncourt Mid Stub 1,266 5,064
Lansdowne House Mid Stub 3,763 15,052
Portrait of Leslie W. Miller Mid Unassessed 362 1,448
Yellow Odalisque Mid Unassessed 817 3,268
Rocky Steps Low Start 41,341 165,364
Samuel S. Fleisher Art Memorial Low Start 304 1,216
Total 189,573 758,292
views per quarter views per year

It's exciting to have a partner in Jessica Milby and there should be a lot of good work coming out the collaboration within the next 3-6 months. Please stop by the GLAM/PMA project page and leave your thoughts. What ideas do you have? How can we move forward on the above projects? I Hope you're all well. Cheers! Ocaasi 19:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE September 2012 drive barnstars

The Working Man's Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Dthomsen8 for copy editing 8 articles to a total of 8,602 words during the Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you for your contribution. --Stfg (talk) 15:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE September 2012 drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 41 people who signed up this drive, 28 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We achieved our primary goal of clearing July, August, September and October 2011 from the backlog. This means that, for the first time since the drives began, the backlog is less than a year. At least 677 tagged articles were copy edited, although 365 new ones were added during the month. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2341 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 54 requests outstanding before September 2012 as well as eight of those made in September.

Copy Edit of the Month: Voting is now over for the August 2012 competition, and prizes will be issued soon. The September 2012 contest is closed for submissions and open for voting. The October 2012 contest is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote.

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Visit to Greater Manchester

Thanks for taking the time to fill out the talk page stubs for articles in Category:Textile mills owned by the Lancashire Cotton Corporation Category:Textile mills in Tameside or was it ((Lancashire Cotton)) ((Lancashire Cotton Corporation)) this is greatly appreciated. Looking for feedback as always I sampled some of the pages and found that my quality assessment criteria and the one you are using appear to be widely different. Obviously I am missing something. Can I just take Talk:Stalybridge Mill, Stalybridge as an example. This is a 11000 char article, with infobox, image and architects drawing all referenced- it was spelling checked in mid 2011 then ce by Malleus. It has been stable since then. Why do you reckon this is a stub. I don't usually assess articles I have started but if you look at User:ClemRutter/Assessment#C class you see why I would have placed it as a C class. Others are more subtle- but in general not one of the articles would be lower than a start class each having satisfied this statement:

Start -An article that is developing, but which is quite incomplete and may require further reliable sources. It provides some meaningful content, but the majority of readers will need more.

More detailed criteria
The article has a usable amount of good content- but is not comprehensive
The article must satisfy fundamental content policies such as notability.
Biography articles must satisfy fundamental BLP policies.
The article must provide sources to establish verifiability.
The article can be weak in many areas. (C&P from User:ClemRutter/Assessment)

Or is it that I am reading to much into the levels you gave- and your intention was merely to plug the absence of any parameters? Still, what ever the answer you are most welcome to pop by for coffee and biscuits. --ClemRutter (talk) 10:29, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your gracious invitation for coffee and biscuits, but I would prefer that eminently English beverage, tea. My effort yesterday was to add templates to most of the Mills articles, which of necessity means a good many Greater Manchester articles. I should say that I was impressed by the quality of the articles on English cotton mills, and I see that you were the creator of many of them. This morning my wife wants me to go food shopping, so I will respond in detail later today. I don't doubt that some articles are under-rated. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question about external links

EvilKeyboardCat (talk) 08:14, 1 November 2012 (UTC)G'day, I recently became a wiki editor and have been editing several computer-related pages. I was on the page List of Linux distributions and I added a link to, in the external links category, which is relevant and useful to the article. However when I previewed the page there was simply a number two in brackets. I think it's something to do with some of the references being linked to pages on that site but I believe that this site needs to be in the external links section, how can I fix this? EvilKeyboardCat (talk) 08:14, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Take a look. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Woops, my mistake. Thanks for fixing it! EvilKeyboardCat (talk) 21:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ahoy Dthomsen8! Care to join me on the Native American articles?

Ahoy Dthomsen8, this is Djembayz from Wikimania. Since I see you editing, I'm assuming you've ridden out the storm without major mishap. I've spent much of Sandy taking a run at Native American article assessment ... and it's time to enlist help, preferably from a prolific and informed editor such as yourself. I've gotten it down from 1,800+ to under 1500, and done 100+ reassessments in the process. Care to join me? (Any efforts appreciated. I've been thinking this could be a good topic for a Thanksgiving Editing Party ...) Djembayz (talk) 01:34, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I will help with your effort. I have added thousands of templates to talk pages. Although there is only class and not importance to add to that table, there is still the need to take away stub templates, and sometimes other tasks, in addition to adding a class. Sometimes other templates need a class or importance. I have done just a few changes, which you can check by my contributions, but now I am reaching the end of my time on Wikipedia editing. Good to hear from you. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, you've made quick progress. Haven't tried AWB (I'm on a Mac). A delight to hear from you! Djembayz (talk) 13:59, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Moving along- 892 this morning. (Slowing to a more sustainable pace here :) Djembayz (talk) 15:22, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Plugging away ... reached 570 today. Djembayz (talk) 19:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Now 469, mostly doing non-bio articles, did a lot of archaeology sites.--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:44, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE November 2012 copy edit drive update

Guild of Copy Editors November 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

  • Participation: Out of 31 people signed up for this drive so far, 22 have copy-edited at least one article. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Template:J
  • Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive. We have reduced our target group of articles—November and December 2011—by over 50%, and 34 of the the 56 requests made in September and October this year have already been fulfilled. However, the rate of tagging for copy edit has increased, and this month we are just keeping the size of the backlog stable. So, all you copy editors, please do come along and help us!
  • The September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest was won by Baffle gab1978 for his copy edit of Expulsion of the Acadians. Runner up was Gareth Griffith-Jones for his edit of I Could Fall in Love. Congratulations to both.
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Hey there. I appreciate your concern for the WIN/GIA article. However, far as I can tell WIN/GIA was merely a rejected PROD as opposed to a full-blown AfD. It's also important to tag AfD discussions with the ((subst:rescue list|~~~~)) template whenever you nominate something for the rescue list. I already took the liberty to do that for you on the Albannach article. That said, I very much encourage your work with the Article Rescue Squadron and I hope you carry on.

Yours in inclusion, Faustus37 (talk) 04:04, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Am I being too zealous by adding a PROD article to the ARS list? I find that fairly often such proposed deletions are followed by an AfD, so sometimes we ARS members can get the jump on them by improving the article right away. Incidentally, thanks for adding the template for Albannach. --DThomsen8 (talk) 16:36, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, as someone who's objected to many PRODs, I'd personally wait for the AfD before going the ARS route. It's important to have a solid case from the outset. Always glad to help. Faustus37 (talk) 08:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I find articles with a PROD or AfD all the time when I look at Category:All unreviewed new articles. These articles are outside the usual new article review process. If it is a pending AfD, I will feel free to add it to the ARS list. If a PROD, I object and I am concerned about its future, I will consider mentioning it to you. I agree that it is important to have a solid case, but I also would like to promptly improve an article worthy of retention, before the deletionists jump on it, especially if I suspect that improvements to references may head off an AfD. Yours in inclusion,--DThomsen8 (talk) 14:00, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE November 2012 backlog drive award

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GOCE November drive wrap-up

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Jordan Burn

Thanks for the message about the above page. It appears from what you say that I didn't follow the correct procedure in creating it. If that's the case, could you let me know, if possible, what I did wrongly. I've created several articles in the past year and I don't think any have been created quite to plan. As I understand it, I create a new article on a separate Userpage, then move it to become a live article. (I've also created work in the Sandbox and moved it from there, only I encountered problems with a Redirect I wasn't aware of. I didn't know how to blank the Sandbox and started the Jordan Burn under the previous title. The result was that all my new edits were affecting the 'live' page on the previous article. That is now sorted, but it was yet more evidence that I don't really know what I'm doing half the time.) Any advice you can give me for future reference to help me avoid the same mistake would be appreciated. By the way, I'm hoping to photograph the Jordan today and the weather if looking good for it. Kim Traynor (talk) 11:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is obvious to me that I did not make myself sufficiently clear. Let me try again. First, you created this article just fine, and after looking further, you have created several very good articles before this one. I am looking forward to the Jordan Burn photo, weather permitting. Second, I added appropriate Wikipedia templates to this new article, I have done that for hundreds and maybe thousands of new articles, and my request to you was to reduce my future efforts. If you don't follow my request, that is fine by me. I add Wikipedia templates on talk pages for Australian settler articles regularly. If you want to learn more, I would direct you to three resources, two of which are online and available immediately:
Please keep up your good work, keep learning, and I will respond if you leave a reply here or on your talk page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:18, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Doing the "Open Space" thing at one of our earlier NYC Wiki-Conferences.

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Will contact everybody Monday

Hope you're feeling better. Smallbones(smalltalk) 03:01, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOOD--DThomsen8 (talk) 11:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shiffner confirms for Sat. Feb. 23, probably 2:30 to close. Will figure out the event content in a few days. Smallbones(smalltalk) 21:11, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you. I'm a fan of your work, especially List of crossings of the Schuylkill River. Not sure if I'll be in Phila on the 23rd, but I appreciate the invite. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 14:44, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crossings needs an article on the new South Street Bridge and the SEPTA bridge, and maybe upstream bridges. I worked on Hackesack River bridges, and on English streams. See my new article list.--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Go ahead and do those articles if you will!--DThomsen8 (talk) 14:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What's this event on the 23rd? Ryan Vesey 23:37, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My idea was an event like those in NYC, 2:30 to maybe 5, maybe some presentation for newbies, and some kind of research and WIKIPEDIA UPDATING. I had a stroke, and cannot do more.--DThomsen8 (talk) 23:53, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry to hear of your health problems. I hope you're on the mend. Best wishes for a quick recovery, BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And best wishes from Down Under to a top guy. Doug butler (talk) 19:44, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delftia acidovorans

Just wondering why you tagged Delftia acidovorans as a possible hoax, when it has reliable sources verifying the info. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 11:17, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

it seemed too god to be true about the gold to me, but mabe I am to hasty. Will look again.--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:42, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

January GOCE backlog-reduction drive

The Minor Barnstar
Thanks for copyediting 4 articles, with a grand total of 2,338 words. Hope this finds you feeling much better! All the best, Miniapolis 15:54, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What help do you need?

How can I help you with your back-log you're talking about at the pump? GenQuest "Talk to Me" 04:45, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Category:All unreviewed new articles and review the articles there. Thpat means remove the tag at top and say "reviewed by ..." but always add or update the talk page, and tag it for problems.--DThomsen8 (talk) 11:30, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Flag and Coat of Arms articles

I'm removing the PROD from them because an image of the flag/CoA in the infobox is not the same thing as an article about the flag/CoA. Compare United States to Flag of the United States for example. Also, I'm not sure of this but I think that for allot of tease what your really proposing is a merge. In my experience we almost never have a section for the flag/CoA in the main country/territory article, even if the flag/CoA article is a stub, compare Flag and coat of arms of Mayotte to Mayotte for example. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 16:34, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE February 2013 newsletter

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Thanks for your recent edits replacing my &ndashes; with "–". When I made my first WP edits there was a useful matrix of non-keyboard symbols which you could click on and the character would appear on the edit page with the cursor. Three years or so ago that was replaced with a string of a dozen or so useful symbols and a dropdown list (Insert/Wiki markup/Symbols etc.) which, no matter what I do, the string of symbols remains unchanged, and clicking on a character has no obvious effect. Clearly I'm doing something wrong but don't know what. Any clues? Opening Word on this computer takes ages; there must be a smarter way. Doug butler (talk) 23:21, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE news: February 2013

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Hugh Alexander Kennedy

Should Hugh Alexander Kennedy have two "references" sections? You changed the notes to references. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:24, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. Now fixed.--DThomsen8 (talk) 21:26, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Chicago?

not sure if you're aware of ths, but you've been erroneously templating articles with ((WikiProject Chicago))...i've already cleaned up several, but there are still more. --emerson7 01:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please examine the history and see if the Chicago templates were there before I added class and importance, and if in some cases Chicago architects were involved in skyscrapers elsewhere. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Why do you think that this was an error? --Redrose64 (talk) 15:20, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It looks to me that AWB did an unjustified change, and it should be pt back. Sorry.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:46, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Easter!!!

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So a print encyclopedia, a strawberry shortcake, and a sycamore walk into a bar - wait, have you heard this one? (talk) 22:53, 31 March 2013 (UTC) [reply]

Link removal

Hello, why did you remove the link to Sponge cake in this edit? I've put it bak, along with other changes. Graham87 02:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Advice on refimprove and your recent editing

Hi, I' ve noticed you recently provided some basic cleaning on this article, which was recently refimprove-tagged. The issue is i ve contacted in his talk page the tag poster to ask for some feedback on where he felt some internal linking was necessary as the article contains many externals links and references and also a few internal. So far i ve got no comment on his talk page. Should I aske for help elsewhere or simply remove the tag if the source is not motivating his tagging ? rgds Bizcayen (talk) 15:33, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The ref-improve tag was placed by User:Wkharrisjr, and not by me. It seems to me that the article has good inline references, but all in French, and maybe that editor does not like that. BTW, there is a reference that needs clarification, because it goes to a disambig page.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:42, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March drive barnstar!

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Re: Pavillion, Wyoming: U.S. Census Bureau says two L's. Wikipedia's own article says two L's. What is source of spelling with one L? (Please don't say dictionary. I know that it is not necessarily grammatically spelled.) Backspace (talk) 19:30, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Undid revision 549591674 by Dthomsen8 (talk) Incorrect change by AWB BEING UNDONE). It was an incorrect change by AWB, so I changed it back. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:39, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Commodity market and IntercontinentalExchange (ICE)

I'm so glad to finally "meet" another editor. I was working on the article when you made changes but I have kept a low-tech notepad version so I didn't lose them. I hadn't finished adding ref names etc. I was just finding the more robust references on the historical move in commodity markets to electronic markets and connecting the related wiki articles etc. It's a fascinating subject. I'll take a break so you can make your edits but bear in mind that I had not completed my edits. I really appreciate the wiki process. Thank you. I see you are a senior editor.

Another article I was working on bit by bit was IntercontinentalExchange ICE which was almost entirely composed of ICE generated content. I tried to add other references and make changes but an ICE employee (used real name as in LinkedIn unless there are two people by same name) removed them all and returned it to an ICE marketing vehicle complete with headings that link to directly to ICE services. Could you have a look at that? I don't enter into wiki editing conflicts. I move on to other articles if a conflict arises. There is so much to do. oceanflynn 16:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Commodity market and IntercontinentalExchange are the two articles you are mentioning. Links should be in talk page entries for ease of communication. I will look into the ICE employee updating, a clear violation of COI rules.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for jumping into the depths of the wiki to tag Back-story (production). Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, Billard were a French manufacturer of railcars - see fr:Établissements Billard. Not to be confused with Billiard(s). Mjroots (talk) 20:57, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We also have an article in English - Billard. Mjroots (talk) 21:00, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The addition of the template ((Sic)) will warn AWB and other automated service users about an unusual spelling in English.--DThomsen8 (talk) 21:06, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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2013 Philadelphia Wiki-Picnic: Saturday, June 22

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In your AWB cleanup of Cable Bay, you changed repeators to reparators. Two questions: What is a reparator, and wouldn't that, at least in the case of Cable Bay, be repeaters that we are after? Schwede66 18:40, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi I have sorted out the confusion over the Rase and the hamlet of Bishopbridge, by creating an article on the Rase, and a redirect for Bishopbridge. I thought I would let you know as you were interested for your packhorse bridge article. The Rase is only a starter article so please feel free to add any extra information you may have. Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:16, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your new article on the River Rase, and for letting me know. I will take a look.
Thanks for the recent welcome to Wikipedia - appreciate the thought Jokulhlaup (talk) 16:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Why? The article already has a WikiProject Brazil template. Just curious, not angry or anything. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 00:35, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The template ((WikiProject South America|class=FA|importance=low|Brazil=yes|Brazil-importance=low)) adds the article to the South America WikiProject. Satisfied your curiosity?--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well yes, but an article in the Brazilian WikiProject isn't under the South American WikiProject as well? It just seems redundant. Are we going to tag every US article with WikiProject North America? Every French/British/German article with WikiProject Europe? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:14, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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Hi. I noticed you assessed Jeddo Tunnel and Little Nescopeck Creek as start-class. I'd been sort of hoping to have them at at least c-class standards, so do you know what improvements might get you to reassess? Thanks. King Jakob C2 00:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for calling my attention to these two articles, which I gave a rather hasty evaluation earlier today. I added some more WikiProject templates to these two articles, and the related Nescopeck Creek article, and I upgraded them to C quality. I also added a few Wiki-links. I would suggest maps as the principal way to improve these articles. Ask for help from the Graphics Project people. Once you have done what you can as improvements, consider a Peer Review before you seek a higher quality rating. The Jeddo Tunnel has co-ordinates, but it is unclear where the tunnel is at from looking at a Google map. Look at the Johnstown Inclined Plane article and its long history to be upgraded as an example of what is needed for higher quality ratings. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:18, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re Happy Belated Welcome

Hi Dthomsen8,

Thank you for the belated welcome! FYI I have been here for 3 years and Archive 1 has my original welcome in case you missed it. Thanks for doing so, it's nice to keep wiki a warm place. Tyros1972 Talk 08:14, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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NYC Wiki-Picnic: Saturday June 22

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You are invited to the Great American Wiknic NYC in Brooklyn's green and lovely Prospect Park, on this Saturday June 22! We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck :) -- User:Pharos (talk)

Try calling tomorrow? Or right now?

Hi, Dthomsen8, I gather you just tried to phone me, and ended up at the wrong extension. Apologies! If you want to try again, great, or, since I have a meeting at 3.30 and don't know when I'll be back from it, you could try again tomorrow. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 19:16, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Left a message, and will call you tomorrow about 9, if that is OK.


Hey Dthomsen! I unfortunately am going to be out of town during the Wiknic on the 22nd. I was wondering if you would like to take on the lightweight role of facilitator there, just to get people talking to eachother and brainstorming about ideas.

The basic goal is just to get people thinking about continued meetups and projects in the Philadelphia area. So a semi-regular meet up is a short term goal. (Then there is the long term goal of organizing as a chapter, but this is in the somewhat distant future). More medium term goals include partnering with universities, libraries, and other cultural institutions in the area.

None of this is set up much yet, so we're very much in a brainstorming kind of mode. Please let me know if you're cool with that for Saturday. Either way, I'm glad you're going to be there and hope to meet up with you in the near future. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 20:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can be the facilitator for the Wiknic. I will be at the CHF Editathon (Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia/2013 June 20) on Thursday afternoon, which will also be a chance to brainstorm about Philadelphia Wikipedia events. I was trying to organize a Wikipedia editing meeting at the Central Free Library in the spring, but nothing came of it. The Library is very interested in working with us. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:00, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Dthomsen. I hope the event went well. I'd love to hear about it and discuss plans for future events. Would you be up for an email exchange or skype chat to kick around some ideas? Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 12:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The event went very well. We should encourage an after-action report on the Wiknic page. Will Hopkins (talk) has a list of those who actually attended, and he volunteered to organize a meetup in early August. You should contact him for more information. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:21, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Vostok Stroy

Hi, Dthomsen8. In the Eastern Siberia–Pacific Ocean oil pipeline article you changed the company name Vostok Stroy to Vostok Story. This is incorrect, so I changed it back. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 04:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for fixing that mistake. I am going to add ((Sic)) to warn other AWB users. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:49, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for facilitating the Wiknic!

Thanks for facilitating today's Philly Wiknic and for bringing hats, Dave! I'm looking forward to organizing an event in late July or early August and will be in touch this week about venues. Will Hopkins (talk) 20:34, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good to hear from you so promptly. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:55, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cypriot Greek assessment

Wondering if you could explain why you rated it C class. Ta, — Lfdder (talk) 11:42, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I rated it C class because I could see it has a lot of references, but I did not read it carefully. I did not see that you changed it from rated B to unrated, a very unusual change. Why did you do that? Content? What ?--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:50, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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ie not i.e.

You recently made a wrong correction in the leonese dialect page, replacing ie by i.e.. In many pages related to languages, the ie sequence must appear as it is, either being a non-English word or a segment of a larger word of any language. Regards, --Jotamar (talk) 01:44, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are quite right. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:31, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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GOCE July 2013 news report

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter
  • Participation: Out of 30 people who have signed up for this drive so far, 18 have participated. If you have signed up for the drive but have not yet participated, it isn't too late. If you haven't signed up for the drive, sign up now!
  • Progress report: Thus far we have reduced the number of May/June 2012 articles to just 124 articles, so we're on the right track. Unfortunately, for the first time in GOCE history, the number of articles in the backlog has actually gone up during this drive. While all participants are currently doing a fine job, we just don't have as many of them as we have had in the past. We have over 500 editors on our mailing list, but only 18 editors who have done a copy edit for the drive. If you're receiving this newsletter, it's because you have an interest in copy editing. Join the drive! Even if you only copy edit one article, it helps. Imagine how much progress we could make if everyone chipped in just one article.

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Requested Articles

Hi! I am trying to reinvigorate Wikipedia:WikiProject Requested Articles, which, if I get enough pointers that there is some interest, I will re-design, with a design similar to Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors, involving drives, to decrease the number of articles listed in the various subpages, and blue link blitzes, involving editors removing all created pages. I am planning, with sufficient interest, to make requested articles 'stricter', i.e. you have to provide two reliable sources, and write a short note explaining why the requested article is notable. There would be a reward system, involving adapted barnstars, similar to the Guild of Copy Editors have here and here. If you have any questions about my aim, or want to indicate that you would sign up to the WikiProject, please say so on my talk page. Thanks! Matty.007 16:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

August 2013

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  • Rabbi '''Aryeh Leib Shifman''' (haRav Aryeh Leib ben Moshe Ber Shifman October 24, 1891 ([[Turaw]], [[Belarus]]) - November 19,
  • Rabbi '''Aryeh Leib Shifman''' (haRav Aryeh Leib ben Moshe Ber Shifman October 24th, 1891 ([[Turaw]], [[Belarus]]) - November 19th,

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  • Marvin Munger, a man of many talents, came from [[New York and settled at the headwaters of the East Fork of the Black River. Gradually, the area

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Hello, I am still working on this article. That's why there is a work in progress template on it. And that's why it is orphan and the two sections empty. What's the use of indicating that I am working on an article if others still can put problem templates on them before I even finished it? And it's not like I abandoned the article for a week or something. Please be a bit more patient before tagging work in progress articles. Thank you. Teemeah 편지 (letter) 07:45, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are quite right, AWB can do more than is justified. I added a Wikiproject template, class=B to this article.--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:55, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hat pix

What do you think? OK with you? Smallbones(smalltalk) 12:43, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK with me, but can the dog do edits?--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:34, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

International System of Units

This edit to International System of Units contained one clear error: "kgs" was changed to "kg" even though "kgs" was pointed out by the text as an example of what not to do.

The edit also converted many HTML entities to the corresponding characters even though it would be difficult for an editor to distinguish the characters from many similar entities. For example, it is hard to distinguish · from the bullet operator, ∙, Unicode U+2219. So it is better to leave the HTML entities alone, allowing editors to plainly see which symbol is intended. Jc3s5h (talk) 20:03, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is what AWS does to the unwary, and even to the wary if they are hasty, as apparently I was. Le me look back at it.--DThomsen8 (talk) 20:18, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GOCE July backlog drive award

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
For your excellent work copy editing over 30,000 words in the Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 Backlog Elimination Drive, please accept this award along with our gratitude. See you soon! —Torchiest talkedits 05:22, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Articles, 3rd Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dthomsen8 for copyediting 36 articles during the GOCE July Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! — Jonesey95 (talk) 21:58, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Words, 4th Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dthomsen8 for copyediting 28,774 words during the GOCE July Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! — Jonesey95 (talk) 21:58, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great American Wiknic Barnstar

A Barnstar!
Great American Wiknic Barnstar

You are awarded this mighty Great American Wiknic Barnstar for your valorous efforts in helping to organize the 2013 Great American Wiknic in the great city of Philadelphia. -—Pharos (talk) 15:35, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July 2013 copy edit drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive wrap-up newsletter

We have completed our July backlog elimination drive.

The drive wrap-up newsletter is now ready for review.

– Your project coordinators: Torchiest, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, and The Utahraptor.

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Talk about your work

Hello --

I'm a reporter with The Philadelphia Inquirer and I'd love to talk with you about your work editing Philadelphia-related pages. Would you mind sending me an email at

Thanks, and all the best,

Teddy Schleifer The Philadelphia Inquirer — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:54, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Will do.--DThomsen8 (talk) 20:57, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why adding WikiProject Switzerland?

Why did you add the WikiProject Switzerland to the talk page of Handpan? I don't see any special relationship to Switzerland. The term describes a group of instruments built and played in many different countries. If there would be a special country relationship, it would be USA because the term was originally invented in USA. But even this wouldn't make any sense. And I am convinced that there is nobody in this WikiProject who is able to improve this article, because knowing Switzerland will not help. There is nothing to tell about Handpan in relation to Switzerland. --Ixkeys (talk) 22:21, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The first sentence of the article is "Handpan is an expression describing a group of musical instruments resulting from a growing worldwide interest in the Hang, an instrument invented and built by the Swiss company PANArt Hangbau AG." The connection with Switzerland is right there, the manfacturer of the instrument.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:21, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are three arguments against this: 1) It is completely irrelevant, that PANArt is in Switzerland. Because it is irrelevant I have deleted the term Swiss in the article. 2) PANArt is not the manufacturer of handpans. As you can read in the article PANArt repudiates the expression handpan to describe the Hang. (If someone would say PANArt is building handpans, this would be personal opinion or own research). 3) If the WikeProject Switzerland is added we also have to add the WikiProjects USA, Germany, Spain, France, Bali and Russia because the manufactures of handpans mentioned in the article are located there. --Ixkeys (talk) 11:33, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently, I was misled by the lead sentence. --DThomsen8 (talk) 11:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Dthomsen8, thanks for assessing East Branch Fishing Creek. I had been sort of hoping that it would be assessed as C-class, do you know of any needed changes to be made for that? Thanks, King Jakob C2 01:11, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]