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Do you think we need an article on the mainland "Noss"? Maybe that's why the OS uses the name "Isle of Noss" for the island. There is a page on it here but with little info on it. As you can see there is Stack o' da Noup which is like a nose to so probably has the same etymology. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:47, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
"The names Noop and Neep are both applied to a peak shaped headland. They are derived from O.N. (g)núp-r and (g)nípa, peak. Instances: "de Noop o' Noss," "de Neep" (North Nesting)."
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I noted your various recent changes to the article on Shetland and sympathise with much of what you say but am not convinced that usages like 'in Foula' will find favour with most readers. It's an issue that I've wondered about for years - whilst 'in Great Britain' sounds right, 'in Lundy' does not - both are the names of islands but one example is substantially bigger than the other. There are discussions at https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/8835/in-at-or-on-an-island and at https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/in-the-island-or-on-the-island.458470/ which make some observations on the subject, suggesting that either of the prepositions might be correct according to the particular circumstance - political entity (possibly in quite a loose sense) versus geographical feature. best wishes Geopersona (talk) 06:56, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Geopersona & Ghmyrtle I emailed BBC Radio Orkney and I got a reply back from one of the reporters, Dave Gray, who sent me an audio file and some comments that I've put up on my website. If this is not quite enough evidence, I'd be happy to talk to BBC Radio Shetland and the Shetland Times and see if they have any similar house rules about "in" vs "on". Griceylipper (talk) 20:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, hope you can contribute to this. I did a lot of work on Whalsay a few years back, glad to see you've followed my example with the detailed nav box! Keep up the good work!♦ Dr. Blofeld 03:48, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! Any article on the UK done this year! Yeah we should have that sort of local coverage for everywhere. Glad to see somebody like you on here! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:41, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
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I am not very active these days but I have been taking a quick tour and hope you will keep up the good work. Ben MacDui 16:01, 24 November 2019 (UTC) |
A thousand apologies for the month-long wait for my reply to this conversation about when it is and isn't OK to go into detail about what equipment someone needs to take with them in an article about that objective. (I rarely seem to get access to a keyboard these days, and when I do, Wikipedia draws me into other complex issues. So forgive my rudeness, please, and especially as an unintended consequence of typing any reply is that it comes over terse or intolrant. That's not absolutely my intention in what follows, and I appreciate your question...)
You asked: "...however if you'll humour me for an enquiry of my own - forgetting the difference between paper/electronic devices for the moment, is the point that a walker should take a map/compass at all considered encyclopaedic? Perhaps this statement would also be considered too close to the content of a guidebook, and should be removed entirely? I personally am finding it difficult to discern where the line should be drawn. I am not trying to be deliberately contrarian here, I just want what's best for the article and Wikipedia as a whole - which I am sure is also your aim."
It's a really good question. The answer in my own head is really obvious...but putting it into words and policies isn't so easy. You are spot on about 'guidebooks'. The best Wikipedia guidance is found at WP:NOTMANUAL, which, amongst other things, says: While Wikipedia has descriptions of people, places and things, an article should not read like a "how-to" style ...manual...
. So, we wouldn't expect an article about a car to state that it's imperative to know how to drive first, or to fill up with petrol. Nor would I expect to see information on what equipment is needed to climb Old Man of Hoy or the Matterhorn. There always Rock-climbing equipment I could visit, or Hiking equipment for more general walking, but even then I would not expect an editor to add a link to those equipment pages, nor indeed put it in the 'See also' section. I totally agree that people need to undertake activities with the right equipment and attitude, but it's not for the encyclopaedia to state specifically the exact type of equipment they need, unless it's pretty unusual and part of the secondary sources used to write about that topic. Anything else is Original Research of WP:SYNTH. Published walking guidebooks always have sections on 'equipment to take' etc, as well as safety disclaimers. It's not at all necessary to repeat that general advice when writing about places included in that guidebook. I don't think my experience as a mountaineer is influencing my response to you - it would be just the same on any other topic where too much practical and general advice is not germane to the subject.
Thus for Lang Ayre and the DYK hook you first proposed, I think it is unusual for a guidebook to say that you might feel it appropriate to take a map and compass to get to a beach if you want to avoid getting lost. What bothered me was your addition of safety advice that a real physical map should be taken, and moreso that it had the chance of appearing on the main page. Yes, GPS batteries go flat and so forth, but that's much more you wanting to offer helpful personal advice (a la guidebook) than offering a factual encyclopaedic entry about a topic. And yes, people get lost and die in all sorts of surprising places in the world, but that's not a rationale for including safety or other sensible advice in an encyclopaedia about each of those places. I could offer literally hundreds of similar examples where sensible advice is useful to a person visiting a place, or performing an activity, but where including that advice in an encyclopaedia would be totally wrong. (Here's a classic example of where someone has gone a little too far in wanting to highlight safety concerns. The route to the mountain hut in question indeed sees many deaths and injuries each year, so safety issues are hugely relevant to the article, but not in the way that was done.)
Let me know if my reply makes sense, or if you're still unsure of what approach to take. You can always drop me a line on my talk page, or ask at the Teahouse if you want input on any editing you've done. In return, some free family accommodation on Shetland for a week or two would be welcome remuneration!!! I promise I'd bring an OS map, too. All the best, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:54, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Griceylipper -- Just back from a wikibreak to find lots of new Scottish island articles & DYKs from your pen -- excellent stuff! I maintain the Portal:Scottish islands for my sins, and if you are interested, it would be great if you could highlight your DYKs on its talk page so that I don't miss any, as I find they are sometimes not being picked up by the search terms I use. Any other help you can offer with the portal gratefully received! Cheers (from a fellow Scottish islander, albeit a sad Sassenach), Espresso Addict (talk) 07:29, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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I'm sorry that the RFC didn't work how you wanted it but for Category:Villages on Mainland, Shetland if you want to ask for speedy renaming under WP:C2E I'll be fine with that, however since another editor (Yadsalohcin) has populated it (with Sullom) I'll ping them to see if the're OK to. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi. The Wikipedia:The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, hope this will prove to be good fun and productive, we have over 44,000 stubs!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:06, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
With a bit of luck this will benefit those Shetland stubs too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:06, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hi MB - it's supposed to be one ninth. Griceylipper (talk) 07:09, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Expanded that. You know we could run a contest just for the Shetland in destubbing and creating missing articles and still last the month! There's so many potential articles missing still! I say give everything the Whalsay treatment!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Yes I noticed there was also a village with Eshaness as the name and the difference. Eshaness Peninsula is a possibility. I remember Shetlopedia, what a shame that fell through. I was thinking Griceylipper sounded like a fishing boat or something!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:48, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
That video makes a huge difference to quality. Much better than a photograph. We ought to have videos of every settlement in the UK!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Wikimedia UK offer grants up to £250. I'm sure if you wanted to film villages, geo features and roads in different parts of the Shetlands they'd cover your petrol costs for travelling about. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:10, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Why are you making these changes? The older forms are still perfectly understood and were in use during the wars, so I'm being historically accurate. In fact the official titles of the local councils are the Shetland Islands Council and the Orkney Islands Council, so please stop and revert your changes.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Old Norse is similar. When referring to the islands, the saga uses the form Orkneyar - 'Orkneys', or possibly 'Orkn-islands'. The Faeroes, in the Saga of King Sverri of Norway are plural too. The king himself at one point thanks the merchants of 'the Orkneys, Shetland, the Faereys or Iceland', and this is a fair translation of the original. The Western Isles, in Norse times known as the Suðreyar, are also plural. Of the western islands in the Atlantic only Shetland - 'Hjaltland' - is at one with Iceland in being singular.
In the saga, the highly distinctive use of the singular for Shetland and plural for Orkney and the Faeroes is undeniable. 'The Shetlands' is never, ever, right and never has been (though that has never stopped the ignorant from using it; neither of course is Zetland, but that is another matter).
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I have started a number of drafts for islands around the Northmavine area. They are Draft:Isle of Nibon, Draft:Skerry of Eshaness, Draft:Isle of Westerhouse, Draft:Isle of Gunnister and Draft:Isle of Niddister. I know that you might still be busy with Wikisource but I'm wandering if you have anymore information for these islands since this seems to be the area that you know well. The drafts don't have much content but I thought I'd have a start to see if there is more that you have, probably offline. Interestingly this suggests (the part starting with "Inland from here, overlooking the Loch of Niddister") that there was once a township called "Niddister" which would mean all the islands with "Isle of" apart from Noss and Westerhouse but yes I think its plausible that "Westerhouse" was also a place on the mainland that disappeared as well and Noss having the prefix is simply a mistake by the OS. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:20, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 23:29, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
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