An article that you have been involved in editing—Yarsanism —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. MiguelMadeira (talk) 23:14, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
--MiguelMadeira (talk) 23:14, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Community input is politely requested for Jimbo's tkpg with regard ur expertise in gen. notability per wp:GNG & applicabilities of eg wp:PROF, wp:AUTH, etc. w/in AfD's
... here: User talk:Jimbo Wales#Suggested fix.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 00:54, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
I just wanted you to know that someone noticed the many thousands of edits you made to fix the |coauthors=
parameter in pages over the last couple of years. Thank you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:47, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Please see User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus#Cascade protection. Since you are one of the editors of Module:Citation/CS1 I thought you might have an opinion. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 15:19, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Iris Medallion (talk) 15:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi Trappist. You may recall discussing hidden characters in the book template, at village pump. That all worked out fine for me, so I thought it might be okay to bug you about something else. Is it possible to ensure that redlinked usercats don't end up in "Wanted Categories"? They interfere with the work of editors who sort through and dispose of redlinks. Cheers. Anythingyouwant (talk) 23:15, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
usercats. At the link you provided there was redlinked CS1 maintenance category (nothing to do with users). I have made that link blue (mea culpa, I neglected to create it at the last cs1|2 code update). That category is not intended to ever go away; even when it has been emptied.
Your BRFA, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Monkbot 12, has been moved to extended trial. Please post the results on the BRFA after the extended run, feel free to ping me to it. — xaosflux Talk 11:51, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello , Trappist the monk:
Saw your message. Not good at English , so i ask another way to you , with the issue i had.
Before I moved those ship articles with adding hull number. I already saw some ship article with hull number , which are no need for disambiguator in it as well.
I wanted to ask , is there any problem of it ? Am i violate guideline that you posted ? Also , the main thing , Is my movement , affect your search of those article ?
Not trying to be rude to you but please understand i'm not good at English.
-- Comrade John (talk) 14:38, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi. It appears that |first=
now renders the tonnages correctly, not as "tons" but as unitless "36,000 GT". Shouldn't we drop "deprecated", "improper usage" etc. from the template page? OTOH, I have never seen wording such as "36,000-gross tonnage (GT)" or "36,000 gross tonnage (GT)" being used anywhere. Should they be deprecated instead? It's either as "36,000 GT" or spelled out within a sentence in the long form (as I tend to put it in the article body; "gross tonnage of xxx, net tonnage of yyy and deadweight tonnate of zzz tons").
I also think we need "deadweight tonnage of xxx (metric) tons" alternative for ((DWT)) and the same for gross and net register tons. As you seem to be quite handy with the templates, could you add such functionality? Ideally, all templates should be able to render out in the same formats.
We can also take this discussion to WP:SHIPS if you think it involves the greater community. Tupsumato (talk) 03:48, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
|first=
is deprecated because it is meaningless as a parameter name. Parameter names must, within the limits of brevity, be descriptive and convey meaning. This parameter name does not do that. Because the parameter has been deprecated for several years, it seemed time to do something about it; hence, the error messages and category.((DWT))
already have a metric variant? That template's second positional parameter or |unit=
can be either long
or metric
.|first=
parameter. That parameter must go away. When it was used to make the template render in the long form (regardless of that form's grammatical correctness), the proper repair is to replace |first=
with |disp=long
. In infoboxen, where brevity is preferred, removal of |first=
is the proper repair.Template:Cite DVD notes/old has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:03, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi Trappist. Hope you're well. Why is the Models.com template not working on Megan Puleri (per this query at Help Desk). Thanks. Lourdes 17:58, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
((#property:P2471))
at wikidata for the model. My first (flawed) and second fixes added the test for a value at wikidata: no ((#property:P2471))
, then fall back on (({1))}
, or |name=
or ((BASEPAGENAMEE))
. That didn't get the the model's page at models .com but got the reader into the ballpark.Here and here. Pete "For he is a mixture of gravity and waggery" AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:59, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi Admin! Is there any way to insert current day (like Thursday) on the Module:Time? Also, link date (like 'Thursday', '3 August' '2017')? Or is there any other templates already present for this? Hope for your kind reply, Thanks! M. Billoo 05:20, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
((time))
primarily because of WP:DATELINK.((#invoke:String|replace|((#time:l, j F Y))|(%a+),%s(%d%d?%s%a+)%s(%d%d%d%d)|[[%1]], [[%2]] [[%3]]||false))
((time|PKT|df=dmy12))
with
((#invoke:String|replace|((#time:g:i A, l, j F Y|+5hours))|(%a+),%s(%d%d?%s%a+)%s(%d%d%d%d)|[[%1]], [[%2]] [[%3]]||false)) [[Pakistan Standard Time|PKT]] <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:80%;">[[((canonicalurl:((FULLPAGENAMEE))|action=purge)) refresh]]</span>
((time|PKT|df=dmy12))
((#if:(({link|))}|((#invoke:String|replace|((#time:g:i A, l, j F Y|+5hours))|(%a+),%s(%d%d?%s%a+)%s(%d%d%d%d)|[[%1]], [[%2]] [[%3]]||false)) [[Pakistan Standard Time|PKT]] <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:80%;">[[((canonicalurl:((FULLPAGENAMEE))|action=purge)) refresh]]</span>|((CURRENTDAYNAME)),<br>((time|PKT|df=dmy12))))
((#invoke:String|replace|((#time:g:i A, l, j F Y|+5hours))|(%a+),%s(%d%d?%s%a+)%s(%d%d%d%d)|((#if:(({link|))}|[[%1]], [[%2]] [[%3]]|%1, %2 %3))||false)) [[Pakistan Standard Time|PKT]] <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:80%;">[[((canonicalurl:((FULLPAGENAMEE))|action=purge)) refresh]]</span>
|link=
is set to any value:
|link=
is not set or omitted:
I think something broke when you made the change yesterday. Now the images are being displayed HUGE, or maybe their normal size. I started adding |Ship image size=300px to fix this and then found that you had made a change to the template. Please look further into this, I really don't think I'm crazy, well maybe a little. Thanks. PS- You may have to purge you're browser to get the image to grow, I just checked USS Omaha (CL-4) and it showed up normal but when I purged the page it grew to half the size of the screen. Pennsy22 (talk) 08:46, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
|size=(({Ship image size|(({image size|))))))
Could you take a look at those? They've been outstanding requests for a long while now. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 14:38, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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Only one of the bare urls I filled in with refill created a CS1 error. It would have been more appropriate to have simply restored the pre-existing ref. for the damaged one. I've now re-done the other bare URLs leaving the earlier ref. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 13:39, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
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For your work on fixing the ship class references. Acad Ronin (talk) 23:10, 11 March 2017 (UTC) |
Could you take a look at those?
It's been months/years since the requests have been made, and no progress has been made on those. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:53, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Not I want to engaged in edit wars, but ignorant and arrogant Phuerbin continuously disrupted edits to the list recently, I haven't other ways to keep the list real-time and correct as always. 182.130.213.63 (talk) 17:46 12 June 2017 (UTC)
I just saw you tag all of the pages in Category:Templates:Locations in bibliography with the "not COinS safe" template. Given that it appears these templates were designed specifically to go into CS1 templates, would you advocate for deletion? Primefac (talk) 12:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
were designed specifically to go into CS1 templates; none of these templates, nor Category:Templates:Locations in bibliography had any documentation and none have any discussion. If you can show where the 'design' of these templates is discussed, please tell me.
|year=
parameter which it should not do.i would like you to tell me how to fix Help talk:Citation Style 1#Access date error on kannada wikipedia , Since User:Omshivaprakash not active at wikipedia, and templates are protected i have asked a admin to unprotect that Module & i would like you give me a copy of Module that would work. ★ Anoop / ಅನೂಪ್ ✉ © 13:51, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Just wanted to stop by and thank you for your underappreciated and often hidden work. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:31, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed that you seem very comfortable with the workings of Citoid. I'm trying to implement the Module:Citation/CS1/Identifiers functions on Wikiversity (discussion thread) so that they can be used when writing in WikiJournals (e.g. the WikiJournal of Medicine). Unfortunately the technical manual is beyond my level of expertise. Would you be able to lend a hand so that I don't break anything over there? T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 10:09, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
((cite book))
. ((cite journal))
, ((cite web))
, etc) for the purposes of rendering the templates into something readable by visitors to Wikipedia (or Wikiversity). WP:CITOID is a tool used by WP:VE to fetch metadata from a database where the key is an editor-provided identifier (doi, isbn, url, etc). Citoid then renders a cs1|2 template from this metadata that the Module:Citation/CS1 suite renders into something readable.Hi, thanks for the repair. Good catch on the author list mess, I should have done that different from the start.
However I don't quite understand why Tech Report is better suited than Journal. I don't disagree with the decision as per the Wiki definitions the thing is a tech journal, but as it currently is it takes away some fine detail that I regard as important. At the same time I don't think it makes sense to add back |url=... so that the |archive-url=... and -date=... are appropriate. I will argue that archiving is important as many Volvo related things have a tendency to "vanish" quite quickly. As unlikely as it is that SAE goes belly up within the next years, access to such pages is reasonably likely to get restricted.
What would be the best solution to this? 2A04:4540:1104:8301:C441:5CF4:995C:8BFC (talk) 11:06, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
((cite journal |language=en |url=http://papers.sae.org/2017-01-0713/ |title=Development of the Combustion System for Volvo Cars Euro6d VEA Diesel Engine |publisher=SAE |author1=Håkan Persson |author2=Aristotelis Babajimopoulos |author3=Arjan Helmantel |author4=Fredrik Holst |author5=Elin Stenmark |others=Volvo Car Corporation |website=papers.sae.org |format=PDF |pages=10 |doi=10.4271/2017-01-0713 |subscription=yes |year=2017 |date=February 2017 |publication-date=28 March 2017 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171019112949/http://papers.sae.org/2017-01-0713/ |archive-date=2017-10-19 |access-date=2017-10-22 |dead-url=no))
((cite journal))
without |journal=
is semantically confusing. The suggested citation at the paywall page suggests that the source isn't a journal article but rather, a technical paper; ((cite techreport))
is the closest fit.|url=
), and a link to an archived copy of the paywall (|archive-url=
), are superfluous. Removing those parameters required that I also remove |format=
, |archive-date=
, |access-date=
, and |dead-url=
because they require |url=
and |archive-url=
. |website=
becomes meaningless without |url=
so I deleted it.|subscription=
because, in cs1|2, sources linked from identifiers are presumed to lie behind a paywall.|others=
is to be used to identify other contributors to the source. In this case, the authors are affiliated with Volvo Car Corporation which does not make Volvo Car Corporation a contributor.|publisher=
to use SAE's complete name|year=
because it is redundant to |date=
. On closer inspection, I should have deleted |publication-date=
and set |date=28 March 2017
because I cannot find a a February 2017 date. I should also have deleted |pages=10
because cs1|2 does not support total pages; |pages=
is to be used to hold multiple page numbers and / or page-ranges, not the source's total page count.((cite conference |last=Johannesson |first=Tomas |book-title=The Proceedings of the JSME international conference on motion and power transmissions |title=Development of a Dry Timing Belt System for a 3-Cylinder Engine |date=2017 |doi=10.1299/jsmeimpt.2017.11-04 ))
In re Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive 2017 1#overlinking: worldcat and oclc: It's not being handled differently from other identifiers. The same "redundant" link happens when you feed citoid a PMID. With PMIDs, I think it's probably justifiable, because most readers don't understand what the identifiers mean, and the URL almost always leads to something useful, e.g., an abstract. I'm less familiar with Worldcat's database, so I don't know how often it leads to the source rather than just a bibliographic record. If you feed it a doi, you get different links: dx.doi.org in the identifier field, plus a resolved URL (e.g., to that article at link.springer.com).
The Worldcat database is not public domain, and it's possible that providing this link is required. (I don't know; I haven't read the contracts myself.) But see also phab:T95376 for the PMID discussion, which may be the main rationale. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 05:05, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
@Evolution and evolvability re:CS1 Identifiers Module at Wikiversity
I have done as I said I would do. All of the modules that are the current live cs1|2 module suite have been copied to their sandbox equivalents at Wikiversity. It now falls to editors there to decide what to do with them. If you need assistance, give a shout.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:30, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
@Anoop Rao re: CS1 error for Access Dates at Kannada Wikipedia.
I have copied the current live-version cs1|2 modules to the kn.wiki sandboxen. cs1|2 templates using the sandboxen should correctly render access dates in any of the dmy, mdy, ymd formats. Errors will occur when month names are written using kn script. To make the modules understand kn script dates, replace the English-language month names in local table in the data_names table of kn:Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration/sandbox with Kannada-language month names.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:52, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Trappist the monk for your reply i will check it & reply you back with result or if i have any doubts. ★ Anoop / ಅನೂಪ್ ✉ © 14:00, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
%a+
characters so mw.ustring.match()
tests in check_date()
that use %a+
return nil
so the date is considered invalid. Replacing %a+
in those tests with [%D%S]-
appears to work; the -
quantifier appears to be necessary. I'll do some thinking about that.Hello please see Template_talk:Lang-ar#No_italics_for_Arabic_script and compare with Template_talk:Lang-de#Restoring_italics. --Omnipaedista (talk) 22:04, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
((lang-ar))
; I have never edited ((lang-de))
. In one of the referenced conversations you mention Libya and Syria. Those pages look correct to me: Arabic script rendered by ((lang-ar))
is rendered without italics:
((lang-ar|سوريا))
→ Arabic: سوريا((lang-ar|ليبيا))
→ Arabic: ليبياHi, I noticed that you withdrew my editings to those articles. I used a very reliable book about the Hungarian campaigns of the 9th and 10th century, entitled "A magyarok elődeiről és a honfoglalásról" (About the Forefathers of the Hungarians and their Conquest), which gathers together the most important contemporary European sources about that period related to the Hungarians (Ahmad ibn Rustah, Ahmad ibn Fadlan, Al-Masudi, Constantine VII, Leo VI the Wise, Liutprand of Cremona, Widukind of Corvey, etc.). The book was edited by Györffy György, one of the most important Hungarian medievalist historians. This book, which you can find in the list of his works in the article, is a collection of the old sources about the Hungarians, first appeared in 1975 (A magyarok elődeiről és a honfoglalásról. Kortársak és krónikások híradásai. ("Hungarian Ancestry and the Great Migration. Contemporary and Chroniclers' Dispatches.") 2nd edition, enlarged. Budapest, 1975.), than in 2002 it appeared a new, expended edition of the book, which I used in my contributions to these articles. So I took two works from this book, which refere to the 942 Hungarian campaign in spain: Antapodosis of Liutprand (V.19) (p. 220) and the 5th volume of "Al-Muqtabis fi Tarikh al-Andalus" of Ibn Hayyan (p. 256-258). I can show you the online Latin version of Liutprand's Antapodosis, which writes about the Hungarian campaign, which I used (https://archive.org/stream/diewerkeliudpran00liud#page/140/mode/2up, p. 141, 2. paragraph). Unfortunately couldn't find the online version of Ibn Hayyan, which contains the bulk of the informations about this campaign. But its Hungarian translation is in the book edited by Györffy, whichs authenticity is undeniable. --Sylvain1975 (talk) 12:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, and thanks. --Sylvain1975 (talk) 12:53, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello, FYI, i saw a bug with the lang-fi template that shows the template documentation on all articles that use the template. The examples are Finland and Nokia. Can you take a look at these articles and address the issue if possible? --Stylez995 (talk) 16:02, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
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Please correct the error caused by the recent amendments to the Aramaic and Coptic languages, which led to the appearance of the capes in the Coptic language brackets under the name of Aramaic, thanks.
Looks like something is up with this edit to lang-sv too: it's leaving "<onlyinclude>" in articles. Does the tag need closing? --Gapfall (talk) 12:06, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
<onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude>
tags which are meaningless (should be <includeonly>...</includeonly>
).<onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude>
tags were used, they were meaningless. As they were used, everything that would have been displayed on the template page without the tags is exactly the same as was displayed with the tags. When the two displays are the same, then the tags become superfluous. For the version of the template that uses Module:lang, the correct tags are <includeonly>...</includeonly>
so that the error message (because no text) is hidden.
Please immediately revert changes to Lang-so. Caused major disruption across all Somali-related articles. Somali is written in Latin script. Examples of affected article: Mogadishu, Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed, Mohamoud Ali Shire.
We would need a simultaneous bot edit to remove the italics already used in these templates and the template should have italics set to = yes. —አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 05:42, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
((lang-so))
has always required adding italic markup to the Somali text, the correct solution would have been to fix the template long ago. My edit to use Module:lang merely reflected the state of the existing template. I will revert Editor CambridgeBayWeather, remove the |italic=no
parameter, and run an awb script to remove italic markup from instances of ((lang-so))
.hello, could you tell me where can I order the Lyot Filter?Thanks. [email redacted] Richard Zhang321 (talk) 10:09, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello. You seem to be an expert on the language templates, so perhaps you can fix this error. Articles containing ((lang|ltz|text))
are being categorized into Category:Articles containing Letzeburgesch-language text, which is a redirect to Category:Articles containing Luxembourgish-language text. Redirected categories are not supposed to be populated. According to ((ISO 639 name ltz))
, the code "ltz" should translate to "Luxembourgish", but apparently this is no longer invoked. How to correct this? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:23, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
ltz
of which Letzeburgesch is listed first; see this record. Unless it is overridden, when there are multiple names assigned to a language code, the new Module:Lang will always use the first name listed by the international standards.lb
for which the IANA language-subtag-registry provides the name Luxembourgish but does not have a record for code ltz
. This is why there is no ((lang-ltz))
because ((lang-lb))
exists. I will look into making changes to the module so that it does the correct thing when presented with a 639-3 code when a 639-1 code exists.The Linguistic Barnstar | ||
For a mind-boggling yet still-ongoing amount of re-coding work on the ((Lang)) template family. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 22:32, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
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self closed | 188 | ||
cs1 refs | 260 | ||
cs1 templates | 263 | ||
dead link templates | 1 | ||
webarchive templates | 2 | ||
use xxx dates | mdy | ||
cs1|2 mdy dates | 27 | ||
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Hey, Trappist the monk. I saw that you helped with the reference style at the Vagina article not too long ago. Will you continue to do so, like you do at the Clitoris article? I ask because it's needed help. For example, right now there are "defined multiple times with different content" issues at the article. Thanks in advance if you continue to help. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:37, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
|vauthors=
and/or |veditors=
for the author/editor names lists. Before Editor Flyer22 Reborn chose Vancouver system I had fixed a handful of templates that use the discouraged |authors=
parameter by simply inserting |authorn=
parameters. Those templates will be updated to use |vauthors=
when I get to them.Hi, would you mind taking a look at refs # 550 and 553 in the refs section of List of current ships of the United States Navy? There is some type of error involving the "NVR Module" and apparently you're the guy that would know how to fix it. Thanks - theWOLFchild 05:01, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
@Trappist the monk: Ok then, I'll won't edit the main module then. Sorry for that. --★BrandonALF★ talk edits 00:08, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi there. I seem to be having the same issue with an editor that you had here. This editor is now "testing" their template on high-traffic articles, and edit waring over it. I'd value your opinion. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:39, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Something got seriously broken with the module. Take a look at Paracel Islands or Nanjing or any other Chinese lang template... //Halibutt 01:44, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I noticed the comment you posted to Dallas S12345's talk page today and I watched to see if he'd actually reply. I was not surprised to find he simply deleted your comment as "unneeded info". A few weeks ago, User:Thewellman also tried contacting him about his problem edits and was also ignored. Since this user joined, he has caused numerous problems to articles, almost exclusively ship-related, and typically to infoboxes. I had to correct literally dozens and dozens of his mistakes. I tried repeatedly to get him to discuss his problematic editing, or even acknowledge it, but to this day, afaict he has never made a reply to a talk page comment. His talk page history tells a big part of the story. Many others have also tried contacting him, and/or warned him. Anyway, to wrap this... I don't know if you were aware of him before this, but you are now. If there is anything you can do to encourage him to engage with other editors when they try to discuss issues with him, or at least encourage him to learn how markup, infoboxes, MoS, etc., etc., work (along with basic spelling), it would be of significant benefit. I'll leave this with you. Thanks - theWOLFchild 04:55, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your referencing repairs to Vagina. I just went back to one to reformat it and didn't get to the others before you did. Are those references that are named <ref name = ":0">, as an example, correctly formatted? I just had another article that was gone over by another editor that changed all references like that to a different format. It was an editorial preference and not for consistency. This was certainly fine with me, though it messed up the page numbers. So I am a little confused, one editor wants their own referencing system that is quite different than the ref formatting in the Vagina article. I still intend to follow the format that you have established. Thank you again. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 23:01, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
I do not have access to AWB or the regex skills that you have, but if I did, I would consider building a bit of good will by making a pass through the lang template error category to fix the "easy" patterns, like this one and maybe even this one. It might ease the pain of this transition. Would you be willing to make a pass through the category to pick this low-hanging fruit? I can follow behind you to do the more manual fixes.
Another note: I have been poking through the category, and I have found a few templates that needed updating to handle missing language codes ([2], [3], [4]). As these templates refresh through the job queue, the category is shrinking slowly. I suspect that there are more such templates; I found all of those in the "A" section of the TOC. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:36, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
|italic=yes
is the easy fix, rather than simply removing the italic markup. Petscan might help make a list of pages for that AWB run, combining film articles with lang template error articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:51, 2 January 2018 (UTC)Hi,
I would appreciate it if you could give your input regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_naval_ship_classes_in_service#Split_this_article_into_multiple_articles Thanks in advance Dragnadh (talk) 01:57, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Template:Lang-x/doc invokes Module:Lang/sandbox. Is this intentional/temporary? We don't usually call sandboxes from the production namespaces. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:43, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi Trappist- I posted a question at Template_talk:External_peer_review#Tense_adjustment that I'm guessing you can answer. But in any case, is there a template that I could have added to my post that would ping the template editor community somehow? I poked around Wikipedia:Template_editor, but didn't find guidance. Thanks in advance. Eric talk 13:05, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Alright, if this is a no-go, we need a different solution. The Wikipedia article is at Buryat language (per WP:COMMONNAME, I assume, which is the way it should be), but whenever ((lang-bxr))
is used, it links to it via Russia Buriat language, which looks very odd in text. We need a link to a commonly used name, not to IANA nerd-speak :) Any suggestions?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 1, 2018; 15:58 (UTC)
((refn))
template out of the ((lang-bxr))
template because that mixed English with the non-English; I added ((lang))
to the ((refn))
because anyone linking to the footnote from article text should still be in context though it would be equally acceptable to repeat the use of ((lang-bxr))
in the footnote .((lang-bxr))
fix, are you saying that manually adding a label is the only way to address the language name display problem? To me it just seems a quite inefficient approach... one would have to do it manually in every article where ((lang-bxr))
is used, and of course most editors are not comfortable enough with the lang templates to figure out why the heck the link is what it is in the first place. Seems like an unnecessary maintenance backlog in the making, is all...((lang-xx))
templates that module's primary purpose? In which case wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense to use the actual articles' titles and not the names IANA made up? Especially considering that probably only a handful of languages would be affected by this? What am I missing here?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 1, 2018; 16:34 (UTC)
((lang))
and ((lang-??))
templates is to produce correct html for browsers and screen readers so that they render/speak non-English text correctly. Browsers and screen readers need to know the language code and editors here need to be able to correctly specify that code. Buryat language lists codes for:
bua
→ Buriat (a macrolanguage)bxm
→ Mongolia Buriatbxr
→ Russia Buriatbxu
→ China Buriatnames that IANA made upbut rather are names from international standards – that is not to suggest that the opposite case it true (that because IANA names are not made up, en.wiki article names must therefore made up). By using the names from an international standard we cement the code/name relationship as they are used in the
((lang-??))
templates. We can override IANA names when there is sufficient reason to do so as may be the case here. Yeah, 'Russia Buriat language' is awkward. Perhaps we override the three individual language names to:
bxm
→ Mongolian Buriatbxr
→ Russian Buriat – needs a redirectbxu
→ Chinese Buriat – needs a redirect((lang-bxr))
deal with much broader topics, which happen to include a Buryat name. That said, changing the links to use proper adjectives (Mongolian, Russian, Chinese) and the romanization we actually standardize on (Buryat), would be a good start. I've created the Russian Buryat language and Chinese Buryat language redirects (the Mongolian Buryat language redirect already exists); would you mind changing the Language Module to utilize those? I would be satisfied with this solution for now, leaving further discussion to native Buryat speakers, should they ever express an interest in pursuing this. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 1, 2018; 18:19 (UTC)
((lang-bxr|Буряад Республикын гурэнэй герб))
→ Russian Buryat: Буряад Республикын гурэнэй герб((lang-bxm))
and ((lang-bxu))
won't work because those templates don't exist – they shouldn't be created until needed.((lang-??))
template are names that IANA made upbut now say that made-up names don't matter. What?
The titles of Wikipedia articles are chosen to conform with WP:COMMONNAME, .... Correct, we agree. But: WP:COMMONNAME applies to article titles, not to wikilinks. It is not necessary nor required that wikilinks to article titles conform exactly to the target title. Were that the case then piped links and redirects would not be permissible.
primary purpose of the [templates] is to produce correct html for browsers and screen readers(emphasis added). Browsers require correct html so that they know how to render the non-English text for that
majority of ... actual Wikipedia readersyou mentioned.
((lang-bxr))
are using it when the 'generic' (for lack of a better term) macrolanguage template (((lang-bua))
) would serve just as well or better, that suggests to me that using the names associated with the IANA / ISO 639 language codes is beneficial.module's primary purposequestion voiced by Editor Ëzhiki.
((lang-??))
templates render. I contend that WP:COMMONNAME has no authority to assert such control over templates, over wikilinks, over redirects. I agree that WP:COMMONNAME has the authority to control article titles but that is all.I looked on the template talk, but there's too much to answer the simple question: will the template return to doing nothing about italics, as thousands of articles have it, or will it continue to force italics where they are not wanted? - I manually changed the article mentioned before, because I don't want it to look ridiculous when on the Main page. I know of hundreds of articles that do look ridiculous. If the template is supposed to stay as it is now, can we at least have a bot to make the changes? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:59, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
((lang))
that should be italicized had to be italicized manually. You have been the recipient of a 'benefit' that put the work burden on many other editors. It is not my intention to make life harder for you but it is my intention to make ((lang))
and the 650-ish ((lang-??))
templates consistent by having them render in similar ways when given similar inputs and parameter values:
((lang|de|Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin))
→ Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin((lang-de|Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin))
→ German: Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin((lang))
and properly render the text in quoted upright font. That offer has been rejected by another editor and ignored by you. The offer remains on the table but, it should be noted that, as a solution, it is no panacea; editing will be required.Cantata titles should be italic, but the BWV number not. Not possible with a lang template that puts everything in italics.This is not true as your own example link shows:
((lang|de|[[Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125|''Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin'', BWV 125]]|italic=unset))
→ Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125((Richard Strauss))
into a text editor and used its search-and-replace to replace all of the |italic=no
with |italic=unset
except for "Notturno" where I removed an extraneous |italic=no
. With that same editor I wrote a regex search and replace that removed the extraneous italic markup (this is here more for me than for you):
''(\{\{[Ll]ang[^\}]+\}\})''
$1
((lang))
. But there is a caveat: it is permissible (and required by MOS:FOREIGNITALIC) to italicize major titles except for CJK scripts so a bot or AWB script must be clever enough to determine when the non-English text is auto-italicized by ((lang))
.|italic=unset
when ((lang))
is wrapped in quote marks and the non-English text is Latn script (no need to add |italic=unset
when the non-English text is written with other than Latn script). As an adjunct, quote marks wrapping the whole text but inside the template can be moved outside (this, more for consistency than for any other reason).((lang))
template that wraps the whole of the non-English, Latn-script text should be removed; |italic=unset
should only be added when the Latn-script text is not wholly wrapped by italic markup (your BWV 125 example).((lang))
templates.((lang))
in the label portion of a wikilink works here but does not work in mainspace because all of the ((lang))
and ((lang-??))
templates add categorization when they are used in mainspace. Your BWV 125 II example, when in mainspace, produces this output which is then handed to MediaWiki for final rendering:
[[Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125|<i><span lang="de">Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin</span></i>[[Category:Articles containing German-language text]], BWV 125]]
((Richard Strauss))
as a test bed.You asked for lists? All Bach compositions which have the BWV number for disambiguation (many!), one way or the other, all songs, all hymns, all poems, - as far as the template is used, and not only the articles but all links to them that use the template. That's only for unwanted italics. Many more if the extra italics that are now obsolete are a concern. - Thank you for your repair to Strauss, - how about all compositions of the template, and their links? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
... picked up by the voice on the words "((lang|de|Ich habe genug|italic=no))" (I have enough).
established as the language of [the] piece. And even if it were established, MOS apparently doesn't offer that as one of the exceptions to the italicize-non-English-words rule.
((lang))
identifies non-English language text for the browser but does not do the same for the reader. I cannot speak to the actions or inactions of FA and GA reviewers.Im trying and have bein for3hrs now i can't seem to do electronic signature..plz can someone plz help me.ty Leachmarie (talk) 06:40, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
electronic signatureand this page is the only page that you, by the name of Leachmarie, have edited so I can't even make a guess based on your edit history. Can you give more information?
Please consider my "Thanks" undone. You did not understand that replies to your 8-threaded post is a basic talk-thread? - DePiep (talk) 22:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
@DePiep: Well, this is not a very nice comment. Trappist the monk is correct, you shouldn't alter someone else's comments. If someone makes a multi-point comment that you want to reply to, point for point, I find the talk quote template and bullet points helpful;
Example, an editor posts comments with;
blah, blah, blah. signature
Copy the entire post, less signature, then reply;
example 1
example 2
example 3
At least, that's how I do it, seen others do it, and never had a problem with it. - theWOLFchild 00:30, 3 March 2018 (UTC) (non-involved observer)
From WP:TPO, this:
Example textor templates to quote others' posts."
—Trappist the monk (talk) 01:13, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, could you add the parameter "ordered=" to the infobox for ships and subs? It's something I've already added manually to pages for these ship classes; CVN-78, DDG-51, LCS-1 & LCS-2, so far it appears to be a worthwhile addition. I think it would handy if it was part of the template. Thanks - theWOLFchild 01:59, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Just curious I suppose, I am not complaining and you're not the only one, but why nothing at all? It could just as easily be a redirect to your talk page (a common solution) or just blank, either would bluelink it... Prince of Thieves (talk) 14:41, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Please weigh in on this section. I'm not sure whether we should go with a more conventional style or stick with the current style. If we stick with the current style, there are currently some inconsistent aspects in the article. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that you are removing the translation template in an attempt to fix the broken use of italics in the template. Just to let you know adding |italic=yes will fix it instead of removing the template. This diff illustrates. - Ahunt (talk) 15:46, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
((lang-en))
has little to no value here, and as an aside, is not a translation template. The primary purpose of the
((lang-??))
templates is to provide proper html markup for browsers and screen readers so that they know how to correctly render or speak the words in the template. But, since the html of GT-Gyroplanes Kruza has this:
<html class="client-nojs" lang="en" dir="ltr">
<span title="English-language text"><span lang="en">Cruiser</span></span>
|italic=
.Hello.
I've seen that you've lifted the protection. Thanks. That's a step in the right direction. Therefore, I do not want to respond to your act of cooperation with a rash action.
But I would like you to understand the full ramification of what you did earlier. I want you to know it, because if I ever go to ANI, or God forbid, ArbCom, that's what I will bring up.
Illegitimately deleting content is vandalism. That means content deletion without explanation, with false explanation and with ex post facto explanation. It is customary not to call a registered editor a vandal immediately. Instead, one must give that person a chance to explain himself and come clean. I agree that revision 830074230 arises from dispute. But revisions 830075636 and 830075967 are illegitimate deletions of content contributed in good faith. Headbomb had a lot of chances to come clean. He hasn't. I am going to give him one more; this time more politely.
The problem even goes far deeper. I was one of the participants of the 4th RFA of Headbomb. While in an RFA, nominees are on their best behavior, Headbomb behaved so alarmingly poor that I thought Wikipedia definitely dodged a bullet. I now think I have enough material for ANI. The problem is: I have a principle of not initiating any action that serves exclusively to the detriment of an editor. I need to know first that he was in one of his moods, which I used to see in User:FleetCommand (may the God have mercy on his soul) or not. (Then again, FleetCommand never once disrespected me. It is a mystery to me.)
But as for you: In revision 830078379, you sided with illegitimate removal of content. I think you must do something about it. A justification of your own, a self-review or reverting would be fine. My preference is self-review.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 12:15, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
[You] sided with illegitimate removal of content.Umm, no.
Why don't you make your user page redirect to your talk page or change your sig so that it doesn't link to your user page, e.g. Trappist the monk ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]])
: Trappist the monk (talk)? But I guess the red-linked user page is almost part of your personality now: you're the red-linked mysterious figure, expert in citation templates while still able to remain neutral in a discussion about citation templates.
E to the Pi times i (talk | contribs) 02:47, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
...for taking care of those links affected by the Ohio merge. It completely slipped my mind to check "what links here" after I made the re-direct. Cheers - theWOLFchild 13:13, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi! Is this user TrappistMonkStuff somehow related to you? Vanjagenije (talk) 16:18, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I and Trappist Monk Stuff I am new to Wiki but I have a youtube channel of my time on a Trappist monastery. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrappistMonkStuff (talk • contribs) 17:41, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I'm not sure if you got pinged or not (it doesn't seem to work for me sometimes), but would you mind taking a look at this question I posted at Template talk:USS? Thanks - theWOLFchild 09:58, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
The Minor barnstar | |
A big thank-you for your diligent work clearing up the numerous lang-xx template errors! Jip Orlando (talk) 14:45, 29 March 2018 (UTC) |
The Template Barnstar | ||
Well, I can't thank you enough for all the work you've done here in response to my help request. I was looking for a way to autorank tables (as many others have, for some time) and you created Template:Row counter. |
And beyond that, I was looking for that solution so I could add it to a particularly long table, and you went ahead and added it, which saves me the effort. The table looks better, has a very useful function added and it works just fine. Thank you so much for all your efforts. Though you won't know it, there will be many others who appreciate your contributions here as well. Cheers - theWOLFchild 16:14, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
I didn't know that the apostrophes were superfluous, thanks. Keith-264 (talk) 14:07, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
every article [you've] editedfalls within the set of articles defined by this search pattern:
hastemplate:lang insource:/\{\{lang\|[a-z]+\| *'' *[^']/
((lang))
has italic markup detection that is supposed to emit an error message. The error messaging is currently disabled because many of the ((lang-??))
templates hard-coded italic markup in their calls to ((lang))
. Those ((lang-??))
templates have been fixed. I am working through the set of articles defined by that search pattern to preemptively fix ((lang))
templates before I restore the italic markup error messaging.The Original Barnstar | |
Thank you for your time and effort to make Wikipedia a better place for everyone! Am-242m (talk) 01:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC) |
Hi, i'm trying to update Module:Citation/CS1. After importing all code, i'm getting error for date (where we used bengali digit as date). You can see here. Module accept bengali month name but doesn't accept bengali digit, although i translated this. Please help me to fix this. Feel free to edit that module, it's not live. Secondly, i want to localise parameter. so i made this & this edit. Do i need to do anything else for localising parameter? Thank you. --আফতাব (talk) 23:07, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
local remap =
, so fix this missing translation & wrong translation i need to enter same thing twice?|সংগ্রহের-তারিখ=৮ এপ্রিল ২০১৮
works, right? So for that parameter, you're done.((#language:fr|bn))
→ ফরাসি((#language:bpy|bn))
→ Bishnupriyabpy
is important, you will need to add it to the list. Because of MediaWiki's incomplete and sometimes wrong lists and because these kinds of things really belong in /Configuration, in the enwiki sandbox you will find lang_code_remap
and lang_name_remap
. These replace the similar tables in Module:Citation/CS1. I would recommend that you adopt this so that all or most locale-specific changes are confined to /Configuration. To use these tables you will need to modify get_iso639_code()
, format_script_value()
, and language_parameter
– you should be able to simply copy them from Module:Citation/CS1/sandbox. At the bottom of /Configuration remember to include these two lines:
lang_code_remap = lang_code_remap,
lang_name_remap = lang_name_remap,
['in'] = '$1 In',
) Because in Bengali "something" go first "in" go second (samething with "By"); currently |in=xyz
gives "(in xyz)" but i need "(xyz in) --আফতাব (talk) 01:10, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
|in=
, an alias of |language=
will, in the next release of the en.wiki modules, be deprecated. I presume that you mean line 86:
['language'] = '(in $1)',
['language'] = '($1 in)',
((cite book |author=Author |editor=Editor |chapter=Chapter |title=Title))
((cite book))
: |author=
has generic name (help)।
(dari) for fullstop (not latin .). I don't see option here to change it. But here i can see 6 '.'
Which one i need to change? all of them?|first=
(|প্রথম=
) & |last=
(|শেষ=
) parameter. Problem is if i use bengali digit in there, module gives me "Unknown parameter" (see. I mean |প্রথম২=
(|first2=
) doesn't work but |প্রথম2=
works.) Is it possible to fix? if easy then do it please, otherwise don't.((citation))
with this module suite or when any of your cs1 templates use |mode=cs2
, you will want to change line 1529 to replace the comma separator with the Bengali equivalent.|author1=...
|author3=...
but is missing |author2=...
; that checking code doesn't know about multi-byte digit encoding. I'll look into this tomorrow.date_parameters_list
, currently module gives English date in English & Bengali date in Bengali. It would be great if module automatically convert English date to Bengali. Here i found that there is a option called date_name_xlate
which convert English month name to local name. I enabled that. Now, |date/accessdate/archivedate=1 May 2018
gives 1 মে 2018
(see). Is it possible to add support for digit also? so, result for date parameter will be always in Bengali. Thank you. --আফতাব (talk) 20:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
title
and/or url
then module will add [[Category:উদ্ধৃতি টেমপ্লেট ইংরেজি প্যারামিটার ব্যবহার করেছে]]
. Can you add that please? This will me to maintenance, so every time i don't have to go through all pages to see if any articles uses English parameter or not. --আফতাব (talk) 21:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
|title=
and |url=
, or all English-language parameter names?The 2017 Cure Award | |
In 2017 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs. |
Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 02:46, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Dear Sir/Madam,
please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_W._Troxell#ribbon_rack
There's a user named "Chris Troutman" who simply deletes whole awards and decorations sections here on wikipedia. As you see, instead of discussing, he simply says that anyone who puts the ribbons back will be warned/blocked. He done so already a year ago but was then stopped... I do not know how, though...I have a changing IP. I never log in when on my mobile. So, is there ANYTHING anyone can do to stop that person? There are people putting in hours of work into such sections... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.154.216.91 (talk) 20:45, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Re: the new row count code you created. Is it possible to apply a single number/ranking to multiple rows? Such as for List of motor yachts by length, it would be for boats with the same length, eg; if boats #'d 9, 10 & 11 are of equal length, is there some way to have a rowspan for those three entries with a single cell showing '9', followed by #12 in the next row, as there wouldn't be a '10' or '11'...?
If this is possible, it would be appreciated. No rush though, I need to go through the whole list and confirm and clean up a lot of the lengths that are listed. Thanks again for your help. - theWOLFchild 04:45, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, on Bnwiki i noticed that CS1 module does not understand YYYY-MM-DD format date with Bengali digit (but CS1 understand other format). Module doesn't show any error message for this but adds a hidden category (((cite web |title=test |url= https://bn.wikipedia.org | date= ২০১৮-০৫-০৭))
adds hidden category but ((cite web |title=test |url= https://bn.wikipedia.org | date= 2018-05-07))
doesn't). Please take a look when you have time. Thanks. --আফতাব (talk) 23:55, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Three articles have similar errors in Module:Citation/CS1/sandbox. Seems very odd for live templates to be using a sandbox module, but you seem to be maintaining it so you may have a better idea how to address it. The articles are High Sheriff of Cumberland, Muhammad Rizieq Shihab and Panther in the Dollhouse.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 17:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Rollback is to be used for vandalism, As far as I know changing date formats does not constitute vandalism [7], If you have an issue then use the edit summary and explain your objections like everyone else. –Davey2010Talk 18:17, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
((use dmy dates|date=January 2013))
template. I rolled back your edit because it was contrary to MOS:DATEVAR. I rolled back your edit because it was contrary to WP:MILFORMAT.Still no excuse, you wrote in your edit summary. I offered no excuse. I merely explained why I rolled back your edit and then admitted that I was trigger happy. Yet, here you are, complaining that my explanation and mea culpa are unacceptable. Why do you believe that it is necessary to further chastise me?
Module:Rail transport colors has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. ((3x|p))ery (talk) 20:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Hey,
Can you please revert your change to MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js? It's driving me absolutely crazy to suddenly have unnecessary extra trailing spaces within the citation popping up whenever I create a new reference using refToolbar, and as far as I am aware the existing precedent points towards the accepted format generated by refToolbar lacking spaces. I know that Headbomb requested this modification due to their personal opinion that the reference markup wraps and looks better in the editing window when trailing spaces are added, but making such a major change to a gadget used by such a large number of Wikipedia editors that modifies this kind of output styling functionality which has remained the way it is for years solely in response to a request from a single editor without bringing the question up for community review strikes me as overly hasty to say the absolute least. Breaking this functionality out into a user-customizable configuration option for refToolbar (a number of which already exist) would be far more appropriate. As it stands, because you made the change globally as a hard-coded change on a protected page, I'm now going to have to once again try to see if I can disable refToolbar for my account and reimplement it again entirely via my user js in order to revert this horrible change to the generated formatting. The amount of time I'm going to end up wasting on this will vastly exceed the amount of time it would have taken for you to have just done the right thing and made this change a new user-customizable option. Garzfoth (talk) 02:23, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi Trappist, thank you again for taking some time to help me out with the table. Have a good day.Dk1919 (talk) 11:04, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Is there a reason why the infobox caption=yes
option is missing from the ((Infobox ship begin))
calls in some ship articles? I added it to a few (e.g. USS Kalamazoo (AOR-6)) when I noticed they looked kind of naked without it, but I thought I'd check with someone involved before going further (and it's starting to look like an AWB job anyway). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:14, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Could you have a way of having those icons display if we suppress external link icons normally? I can only see them if I disable this. Maybe this could be done via a different class, like external-access, or some other way that would let us suppress the normal external link icons, but keep the access ones? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:23, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
FYI. Hyphens in ISBNs do not impact how they link with Book source. See Wikipedia:ISBN. That is, ((ISBN)) templates or book citation template ISBNs give readers "Magic links" no matter how many or how few hyphens are added. In fact, spaces between numbers work too. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 03:53, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
|url=
to the address of a google books information page that doesn't offer preview confounds reader expectation; readers expect that there will be something there to read when |title=
is linked with |url=
. The 23 July 2018 Citation bot release introduced this bug. The fault was reported 24 July 2018. It is (presumably) now fixed.Thank you for your help. I used it on two tables that I'm maintaining and it works like a charm. Additions and deletions are a lot much easier now that I don't have to renumber..
List of U.S. stadiums by capacity
List of indoor arenas in the United States
Roberto221 (talk) 21:28, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Some script errors appear at Papias of Hierapolis#References. They are due to use of ((harvtxtp)) and updates at Module:Footnotes. I don't know what should be done so I'm hoping you will fix it. Thanks! Johnuniq (talk) 03:39, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
I see you changed .cs1_lock_free
to .cs1-lock_free
. Should that be .cs1-lock-free
for correctness/consistency? (Likewise for the others.) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that you typically concatenate strings with table.concat
, for instance in Module:Lang. I've also done that before to reduce memory usage. But I read recently, in a post on the Lua list (reposted here as Lua string concatenation considered not harmful), that the concatenation operator is at least as memory-efficient as table.concat
when concatenating a set of strings all at once: for instance, 'script: ' .. script .. ' not supported for code: ' .. code
is no worse than table.concat ({'script: ', script, ' not supported for code: ', code})
. Putting strings in a table (array) and using table.concat
is only more efficient for constructing a string piecemeal, as in make_text_span
. So you could change your practice and use concatenation in some situations. — Eru·tuon 23:26, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
table.concat()
for any other reason than as a matter of style. Given multiple ways of doing something where there no single one of them is demonstrably the 'best', I choose the one that I 'like best'; in this case table.concat()
. We aren't counting processor cycles here nor are we really worried about every last byte of memory.table.concat()
is wrong else you would not have started this thread. It's interesting to me that you do not also take me to task for my habitual use of C's terminal semicolon. Sigh.table.concat
might be memory efficiency. As it turns out I assumed wrongly and posting about this was rude, so I am sorry. And I don't really want to get into a discussion of coding style. — Eru·tuon 21:31, 23 August 2018 (UTC)When I contacted NPS about the bad link on the Weekly List, I was in turn contacted by Jeff Joeckel. He might be the person to ask regarding your bad URL. Standard NPS email format: First name(underscore)Last name (at) nps.gov Einbierbitte (talk) 17:26, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
((NHLS url))
appear to be valid but only link to blank pdf pages (which problem I do not believe to be a fault of the template – though I have been surprised before). If changes to the template are required, I am available to assist should that be necessary.