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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you! I ran out of time to fix the Task Force page, and was going to do it when I saw it all neat, tidy, and perfect! Thanks again! ~ Bella Swan? 17:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Could there be a second bug in the WP:NOVELS template? See Template_talk:NovelsWikiProject#New_task_force_to_add... (thought that you might want to know. =]) Cheers! —the_ed17— 02:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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Discussions of possible text-based copyright violations does not belong at the Image and Media area. I have moved the discussion to Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems.
Yes, I finally got it working. Thanks! María (habla conmigo) 16:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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Contrary to your comments I don't think that the bad picture with the ugly looking old book in it conveys it's literary importance, I don't think it does anything for it. And, I notice you skipped our discussion on it that was in the Talk Page. I think the other title page is far more powerful, and conveys more a sense of the book, it looks better, and most importantly its a better image, I mean its been taken better. I find that aesthetics of an article are very important, and there's still actually nothing wrong with the other picture except that it comes from a later edition which is of no consequence. But, you'd rather stick with the old one for some unfathomable reason. Look, the only edit you've made in weeks was to cancel out what I did and that speaks loads. Still believe we should hold it to a vote. There's still no reason to go with a first edition just because its a first edition.--Robert Waalk (talk) 00:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering if you would be interested in contributing to the November Novels Project newsletter for the new section ' In Focus ' ? If so it would be good if you could write on somethings like the goals and future of the Novels Project, how active you are now with the Project etc, anything that can introduce yourself and let new members know that you are the founder and what reasons you started the Novels Project and how we differ from Literature and Books Project etc. This is just a section so members can understand the Project better and get some idea of who our members are. Max of about 200 words and the article would be required by the end of October. Would be good to have you in this new feature, so let us know if your interested. Regards - Boylo (talk) 00:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
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Whoops. Thanks for the reminder! María (habla conmigo) 15:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
"Seeing the interests of the_ed17 above it would be nice to co-ordinate with WP:MILHIST more and maybe get a joint military novel / short story literature task force on the cards." Hmm not a bad idea! There are a lot of military history novels...Tom Clancy comes to the forefront of my mind, with Dale Brown, Alistair MacLean, Stephen Coonts and Joseph Heller next in line..... [and we might get more interest in WP:NOVELS... :)] Anyway, cheers! —the_ed17— 15:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Another message. :) —the_ed17— 17:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
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I am getting this image translated from german to english that is in commons [1]. It is in the process of being done now and have asked that it then be uploaded to commons. Where would you recommend this chart to be placed in the article ? - Boylo (talk) 11:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent edits to the Chris Heimerdinger article and comments regarding the proposed merge, I think you may be correct - merging it is simply another way for the lazy like myself to get around the work necessary here.
On a side note, would you be so kind as to create an article titled Mildred L. Batchelder Award with a redirect from Batchelder Award? Beyond its notability the award is interesting in that it is conferred on the publisher for a single specified title. I intend to write the prose based mostly on this reference[2][3] and it's associated links. Thanks, if you can create that page for me.76.202.249.62 (talk) 18:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Kevin, could you please use edit summaries when you make an edit? It's quite unhelpful not to, especially when reverting others. This change seems to introduce a factual inaccuracy - the artist's book is "by" the artist Dennis Ashbaugh; Gibson only contributed a poem which was embedded in it. As far as I am aware, Gibson has written no notable books which are not novels, so ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Books by William Gibson, if ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Novels by William Gibson is to remain, should be empty. the skomorokh 19:52, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
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I have nominated Category:Books by William Gibson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. the skomorokh 14:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
((LucyMaudMontgomery)) Regarding your edit [4] – did you read Category:Author navigational boxes which says “Note: This category page should be empty. All entries should be recategorized under Category:Author templates”. Also, preceding the Category with a colon makes just a link to the category – the page don’t belong to the category. –Fred Bradstadt (talk) 02:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hi. You restored material that was removed as a copyright violation indicating you didn't see it. The plot material is lifted verbatim from this New York Times article. The first through third paragraph of the plot introduction in The Blue Afternoon is a verbatim copy starting at parapgraph two of the New York Times article. The last paragraph is slightly modified in that the first part of the sentence from paragraph 5 of the NY Times article has been removed, but the remainder is identical.
It's a similar situation with the plot summary section. I've removed the material again. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 20:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Kevin. I notice you restored this article after I've redirected it to Shadowland. I'm not sure why. Love you to death and Shadowland are only different names of the same book - only one book, so there should be only one article. This holds true for the sequels, all of which have an alternative name, too. Shadowland should be the main title for our Wikipedia article since it is the name that is listed on the author's official website. I'll restore the redirected version, if that's okay with you? :) Best, --PeaceNT (talk) 09:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Kevin, I was wondering if you might have time to cast a technical eye over this article I've expanded: In Praise of Shadows. I have a copy of the 2001 edn, but no first edn and having trouble getting a clear shot of the cover. Julia Rossi (talk) 03:43, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
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Howdy! My name is Ákos and interest a novel A. E. Southon: On Eagle's Wing. Can you help me, who's Southon and his novel? Doncsecz (talk) 14:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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Hello and thank you for fixing the book title in my subpage. I am reading the book in French and so I was unaware of its official English title. LovesMacs (talk) 15:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Kevin,
The definition of category in the form you've reverted it to
Mystery fiction is NOT an umbrella term for detective fiction and whodunits as the current definition tries to assert.
In fact, the current division of novels into Category:Crime novels, Category:Mystery novels and Category:Detective novels is extremely questionable. That, of course, should be discussed at length at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Crime task force, but my humble edit was just to correct what, I believe, is a very misleading category description. Let me know what you think.
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Hi Kevin, I saw that you reverted my changes to Category:Poetry by Robert Browning with the broad comment "non standard". The edit consisted of three main changes: a category specialisation from c:British poems to c:English poetry, an alphabetical sorting of the categories, and the use of DEFAULTSORT to match the majority of sort-text (and an explicit PAGENAME for the exception). As this page shows you being "offline" and it seems unlikely that you considered all three changes to be "non standard", I've redone the edit on the assumption that you'll provide further feedback and make a more refined change. TIA --Zigger «º» 00:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi. thanks for your help today with adding categories to category: stub parent categories. the category is currently being discussed and proposed for deletion. could you please go over to the deletion entry, and provide some help and input? thanks. i really appreciate it. the category is being proposed for deletion at:
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also, there is also a significant discussion taking place at: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Stub_sorting#parent_categories. please feel free to provide some input. thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 14:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Kevinalewis, I need your help. It's about the book cover image at The Elegance of the Hedgehog, it has been used as default (large) and reduced (200px) and I was wondering which is the wiki novel style. I don't quite follow Skomorokh's reason for why it's large again (and on my browser looks outsize compared with the article text layout), but before I raise this at the talk page, I'd like to know what's involved in sizing the cover for a novels page.(Which may result in me having no business to raise it at all.)
By the way, it's currently a GA candidate. Thanks, Julia Rossi (talk) 08:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello Kevin. I asked you before if you could include edit summaries explaining your actions when you make an edit. You undid an edit of mine here without explanation, when I had given a policy-based reason in my edit summary. I understand not wanting to have to explain basic maintenance tasks in the template space or something, but when you are reverting a good faith edit of another user, it really is antagonising, frankly. Regards, the skomorokh 11:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm still working on it. If you could discuss on the talk page first. I have a plan and it will take some time. Thanks. Fothergill Volkensniff IV (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Re your edits to this article, are you really convinced that unreferenced phrases such as "so great is the impact of Gould's genius on the other two that, even as it nourishes them, it destroys them: they realize that Gould represents an artistic ideal to which they cannot hope to aspire." really fall under WP guidelines ? CultureDrone (talk) 13:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Kevin, Any idea what I should do about Image:Resurrection.jpg ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 15:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you were a member of Wikipedia:NOVSS, and as such I was wondering how I could help expand the article for Hermann Hesse's fairy tales collection. I am pretty new at this so any help or direction to others who could help would be appreciated. Thank you. Banjaloupe (talk) 18:30, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, Kevinalewis,
Most of my questions have to do with copyright and attribution. I've edited a bit, on and off, since last year about this time. I've gotten tangled up in a really long Gertrude Stein article and wound up leaving it for a space of time. Lately, I've been editing Innocents Abroad.
I don't actually have a whole lot of time to play with this much longer, but when I get back to it, and if you're willing to take me on, I'd sure appreciate a look over and some feedback in general about Gertrude Stein and Innocents Abroad entries
I've played around with embedded images in both pages. In Gertrude Stein, I used a lot of images from the Yale Beineke library in this manner. I'm curious if there should be some sort of formal request to use the images, because I've used a bunch of them.
At Innocents Abroad, I've also embedded materials from two big projects, to which I've given prominent attribution.
Thanks much, Pinckney2007 (talk · contribs)
Thanks for the reply, for looking at the pages, and for the adoption!
My question about copyright is based on the following: the links I've added in go right to the source pages, where the copyright resides. Or stated another way, I've not used the images on the wikipage; a reader needs to leave wiki to view the image and they view the image at the originating copyrighted source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocents_Abroad#Introductory_Chapter_Outlines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Stein#The_paintings_on_the_wall
About adding content, beyond the sources to Innocents Abroad, yes, and thanks. I'll look at your example!
Pinckney2007 (talk) 15:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007
Hi, Kevin-
Thanks for the observation about chapter headings in Innocents Abroad. I did/am doing that for a couple of reasons ... to get me through the book, so I can figure out how to fix up the non-encyclopedic summary that was there when I started (thanks for moving it back up where it started, btw), and second, because there's no plot really. It's a travelogue and each chapter tends to be an island. Still, I appreciate the critique, and I'll incorporate an analysis for why the lists or dump the lists entirely. ... I'll figure on it a bit.
Thanks for adopting me, and for giving me so much feedback already. I sincerely appreciate it.
Pinckney2007 (talk) 19:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007
Thank you for improving this article. As the writer, I know you could help me by looking at the posts on the discussion page and seeing if you could give any response or advice. Best regards,Hammerdrill (talk) 14:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, again, Kevin-
And thanks for your comments.
I've added in some overview paragraphs to the Innocents Abroad material, to explain why I've given some chapter summaries.
And thanks for your thoughts on my links to the outside sources, in both Gertrude Stein and IO.
I'm going to take a stab at an argument for maintaining some reverent use of hyperlinks and here goes:
The intertextuality possibilities of the internet encylopedia are exciting to me, and I figure the Beineke library is stable and the links will survive intact for some time, given no copyright concerns -- or concerns that what I have linked -- violates clearly stated wiki standards. I think the wiki gallery of linked images, in the Gertrude Stein situation, highlights important features of the Beineke digital library and I think that wiki interacts in a way that is favorable to Beineke.
Likewise, in using the links to the two main Mark Twain projects that I've found, where they bear on the Innocents Abroad, I think the wiki article also highlights those sources in a favorable, and encyclopedic way.
Still, I appreciate wiki awareness and excess of caution as related to using other's work products, and that's why I asked the question, and why I continue to ponder the issue.
I'm in the middle of a busy season right now in my work, and I won't be able to spend much time online.
I sincerely appreciate your insight and advice.
Happy Thursday to you!
Pinckney2007 (talk) 21:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007
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Would you care to comment on the question about first editions I entered in Night_of_Power_(novel)? --Sultec (talk) 16:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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Was the move The Serpent and the Rainbow (book) to The Serpent and the Rainbow (novel) appropriate? The book purports to be a genuine account, although its claims have been criticized. NoVomit (talk) 12:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)