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The result was delete and redirect to Habasit Holding. Randykitty (talk) 12:43, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rossi Motoriduttori[edit]

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Article was dePRODed with the comment that the sources are valid because they are all taken from the company web site, Concern was: Unsourced. No major claims of importance or significance (WP:ORG). Wikipedia is not a directory. WP:NOTYELLOW. See WP:PRIMARY. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at this source. Being mentioned in a case study is not the stuff notability is made of. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:49, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, it is exactly the stuff notability is made of. Per the WP:GNG, such a source is independent, reliable and detailed. Q.E.D. Andrew D. (talk) 23:20, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisting comment: Hoping to get someone with more Italian reference experience involved - looks like it could be notable, but I am unsure. Onel5969 TT me 23:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Yes, there is evidence of notability, as presented above. RoySmith seems to have some idiosyncratic concept of notability which does not conform to our guideline. Andrew D. (talk) 23:20, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:09, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Zone consoles[edit]

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unsourced and non notable. disputed prod noq (talk) 23:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was just created,more information is likely to be added soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.215.193.216 (talk) 15:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Sega Zone (console) has its own article, which also needs a great deal of attention if it's going to survive. Grayfell (talk) 00:29, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. A7 is just as valid now as it was before. DGG ( talk ) 00:20, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hybe (website)[edit]

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Was speedily deleted before as Hybe.com for A7. My concern is that the significance is still not credibly stated. Failing that, the article isn't notable either (WP:WEBCRIT); all news stories I can find are based on the press release. The article itself seems to coatrack the affiliated TV program to the website. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 22:26, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew_Hughes_(photographer)[edit]

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The article is an obvious WP:SPAM violation. The edit history makes it clear that the whole article is created almost exclusively by the subject, and it never establishes any real WP:NOTABILITY, its purpose is just to advertise its creator. Jeppiz (talk) 22:17, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:49, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alexa Hamilton[edit]

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Delete: no substantive claim to notability as actress or in any other way. Quis separabit? 22:06, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Louis van Niekerk[edit]

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NN poet. There's a claim of winning a prize that I've been unable to verify.

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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 21:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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German submarine U-2506[edit]

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This is a U-Boat (one of hundreds) that never attacked or was attacked by an enemy ship. The only sources that write about it are comprehensive sources that write about *every* U-Boat, regardless of what the U-Boat actually did. That is not significant coverage, so this article fails the general notability guideline. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 21:50, 21 October 2015 (UTC) Nomination withdrawn. I know how military history editors think (as I'm one myself), so perhaps I should have anticipated this. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 14:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Oppose: The Uboat was instrumental in late war development of sonar equipment. There are plenty of sources available, although they won't show when looking for the WP-article title. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 05:08, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The nomination is false from beginning to end. The boat in question was attacked. There are sources which cover the topic distinctively. And such considerations are irrelevant for the general notability guideline which specifically says that notability is not a matter of fame or importance. Andrew D. (talk) 12:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:34, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kamila Porczyk[edit]

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Non-notable MMA fighter - does not meet WP:NMMA. Other claims to notability are winning of relatively unknown competitions. Peter Rehse (talk) 13:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Crossing out the weak part of my vote since there's no indication she's a notable entertainer.Mdtemp (talk) 15:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Appearing on a comedy show isn't enough to show notability unless you can show she meets WP:ENTERTAINER. Mdtemp (talk) 15:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't even any evidence she was on that show. She's not listed in the show's article as part of the cast or at the article's source at IMDB. Papaursa (talk) 19:11, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Cannot see any clear consensus here. Since it has been relisted thrice, been open for too long (a month), closing it. (non-admin closure) Yash! 05:15, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Asian Men's Youth Handball Championship[edit]

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No-notable event. Flat Out (talk) 02:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: A continental championship in a pro sport like Handball looks quite notable. Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:41, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - as a youth series it is not a pro event. Flat Out (talk) 05:14, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Cannot see any clear consensus here. Since it has been relisted thrice, been open for too long (a month), closing it. (non-admin closure) Yash! 05:16, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Asian Women's Junior Handball Championship[edit]

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Non-notable event Flat Out (talk) 02:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: A continental championship in a pro sport like Handball looks quite notable. Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:41, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - yes but this is a junior event not a pro event. Flat Out (talk) 05:13, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:35, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

William Cleveland[edit]

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Questionably notable and improvable as the best my searches found were this, this and this so if there's no better improvement here, this should be replaced with a disambiguation page for the two other William Cleveland (and I was going to but I wanted comments first). Pinging Moonriddengirl and Alansohn. SwisterTwister talk 23:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:35, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kev. D (Music Artist)[edit]

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I can find no evidence this artist is notable. The MTV and CNN references are not what they seem - they are unverified user-generated content; the remainder appears to be either the same, self-published or in non-notable publications. I could find no significant coverage myself and nothing which comes close to meeting the requirements of WP:GNG or WP:MUSBIO. RichardOSmith (talk) 18:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:32, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Foster (farmer)[edit]

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"District Council of Lower Eyre Peninsula's citizen of the year " is not a claim to notability; " National Climate Change Adaptation Research Facility (NCCARF) National Climate Champion Individual Award." is a little more substantial but still not a major award. Membership on a gov't advisory council is not notability. Refs are PR, notices, and a local ref on a local personality, which is not discriminating. DGG ( talk ) 18:28, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. Clear advocacy. G11. DGG ( talk ) 18:39, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sabbath manifesto[edit]

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I'm not entirely sure of better improvement especially given the current version and the best I instantly found was this, this, this and this and I'm not entirely sure if this should simply be merged elsewhere. Pinging Biscuittin, E Wing, DGG and Graeme Bartlett. SwisterTwister talk 17:45, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:04, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Casey McKee[edit]

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Questionably notable artist as my searches found few results with the best here, here, here and here. So unless this can be better sourced and changed after existing the same since October 2008, there's nothing to suggest keeping. SwisterTwister talk 05:40, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 01:28, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Genesis V. Cordoba[edit]

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No evidence of notability per WP:GNG or WP:CREATIVE. A costume designer relatively unknown films. Note IMDB is not a reliable source per WP:RS/IMDB, and the author of the IMDB biography has only created that one article, which may indicate affiliated source. In any case, significant coverage in reliable, third-party sources is lacking. --Animalparty! (talk) 01:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I did a diligent search of sourcing before nominating and performed all steps of WP:BEFORE with the exception of notifying the creator, and for that I may be guilty of biting a newcomer. I will strive to be more patient with new articles in the future. I welcome Thefilmdiary to provide any additional information or sources, and regardless of the outcome of this discussion I hope they continue to participate in Wikipedia. --Animalparty! (talk) 04:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Animalparty! I appreciate you seeing my point of view. Let's all work together to help newer editors understand notability so we can keep people who want to contribute. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 13:45, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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I maintain that six hours is not enough time, Mcmatter. We are losing editors by acting too quickly, instead of reaching out. You put up the speedy delete tag, I believe. Did you write anything on the user's talk page to help them out? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 13:42, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep, early close per WP:SNOW (non-admin closure) Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:44, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya[edit]

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Synopsis: Coatrack for Anna_Politkovskaya. Even more so because the content being placed in here is being contested here .

It's being used to insert facts in contention from the main article KoshVorlon 17:12, 21 October 2015 (UTC) KoshVorlon 17:12, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what coatrack is. "A coatrack article is a Wikipedia article that ostensibly discusses its nominal subject, but instead focuses on another subject entirely." This article is about her assassination, preceding events and subsequent events (investigation and trial). There is one section of supposedly related events, but even if that section is disputed, it doesn't make the article itself a coatrack of Anna Politkovskaya. МандичкаYO 😜 18:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

HomeMatic[edit]

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Fails WP:PRODUCT and parent company EQ3 has no article. I was unable to find sources other than press releases. Maybe someone who speaks German can help find German-language significant sources. shoy (reactions) 14:37, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Form fhelmli: I think it should stay because of:

The fact that other products have articles has no bearing on this particular article. Wikipedia requires multiple reliable independent sources for each article, so coverage by newspapers or tech news websites, for example. shoy (reactions) 19:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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I have added some news article references. Is this what you request?comment added by Fhelmli —Preceding undated comment added 05:55, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Online lab model of learning[edit]

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Speedied as advetising (by somebody else) but speedy declined. Nevertheless I believe that this is essentially a promotional article; it reads like something in a brochure. I also doubt whether it is a widely used term which has a coherently defined meaning.TheLongTone (talk) 11:59, 29 September 2015 (UTC) TheLongTone (talk) 11:59, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mild Keep - I question the sources for this article and it has the feel of someone's project but I can't find outright failings of the article. There may be other article that touch similarly on the subject like E-learning (theory) but don't see exactly how it fits together... - Pmedema (talk) 12:58, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:17, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anthea Montessori House of Children[edit]

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Inadequately-sourced article about a newly-opened preschool. Fails WP:ORGDEPTH for lack of available sources. - MrX 14:13, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 21:38, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gianni Profita[edit]

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Is he notable and can this be better improved? I'm not entirely sure as my searches only found some links here and there here, here, here, here and here. Maybe others familiar with this or its field can help as this has also barely changed since July 2008. Notifying past users AllyD and Favonian. SwisterTwister talk 03:31, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Yash! 05:08, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Lawson (album)[edit]

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WP:CRYSTAL. Album release date hasn't happened yet, and charting that was indicated was for singles, not for the album itself. Content has absolutely nothing to do with the album itself, but it regurgitated content from the articles on the singles. MSJapan (talk) 21:53, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


This album meets Wikipedia's criteria for a notable album:

An album requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence. That an album is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article. Conversely, an album does not need to be by a notable artist or ensemble to merit a standalone article if it meets the general notability guideline. Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting.

It is indisputable that Jamie Lawson is to be considered a 'notable musician'. This article does meet Wikipedia's General Notability Guideline, as all 5 entries on the list can be checked. Only one of the singles mentioned in the article has its own page, so the album page provides for information for the first time on other singles. This article currently includes release information and charting information for album (MSJapan's claim that charting information was for singles is incorrect, as sources show that chart statistics are for the album). The track list will be updated to include writers and times for all track after formal album release on October 16 2015. HeyJude70 (talk) 14:27, 13 October 2015

Reply Except that notable musicians do not release notable albums by default; that is what WP:NOTINHERITED is all about. Your charting information cannot be for the album, as the album hasn't been released yet; the article clearly states it was pushed back, and nothing can chart before its release, so I'm sorry, but there's no way that chart information is for the album. As for your sources, you have two reliable sources. ITunes, Google Play, and Twitter just don't cut it. MSJapan (talk) 07:08, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
ReplyAlbums can chart on the iTunes Charts prior to release. The iTunes Charts are detirmined by sales of an album, so in this case the sales for this album which was available for pre-order proved to be high enough for the album to chart. The sources used for the charts determines this, and a quick scan of the Australian or UK iTunes store chart will also prove this point. Please educate yourself on how different charting systems work before removing them from a page. HeyJude70 (talk) 08:30, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Reply: iTunes charts are not Billboard. It's got nothing to do with "different charting systems" - iTunes charts are not what we use for charting purposes. See WP:CHART. MSJapan (talk) 19:10, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Reply:This album page has been greatly improved since this article for deletion was opened. The page now includes writing credits and times for every track, personnel for the entire album and a brief history behind that album. As of next week, charting information will be added as the album has already been shown at #1 for the UK Official Charts Half-Week. This page also has several new, reliable sources. HeyJude70 (talk) 06:41, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Strong Keep: The album has now peaked to number 1 in the UK, number 5 in Ireland, number 4 in Australia and number 3 in New Zealand. There are now lots of reliable sources and content provided in the article now. Greenock125 (talk) 10:20, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:25, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Justine Kish[edit]

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Non-notable MMA fighter. Fails WP:NMMA with only 4 fights, not of them top tier. She hasn't fought in almost 2 years so it's unlikely she'll ever get 3 top tier fights.Mdtemp (talk) 16:04, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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No need to copypaste that's what the link is for but yes you are right - she meets WP:KICK. Just wish the article could talk about that more. I changed my vote.Peter Rehse (talk) 22:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:20, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nikolas Charalampous[edit]

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Non notable boxer. Youth and junior titles do not show notability and coverage is routine reporting of sports results.Mdtemp (talk) 15:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:39, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

JayJay Oakey[edit]

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Lacks the significant independent coverage to meet WP:GNG. Nothing to show he was notable as a boxer or weightlifter. He fails WP:NBOX and the weightlifting results don't even mention him.Mdtemp (talk) 15:49, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:32, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Affiliate Window[edit]

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This article was deleted at prod, but then userfied by request. I can't see an indication of notability, and the only reference given doesn't seem to mention them. I've looked through 10 pages of ghits and can't see anything worthwhile there. The article has been tagged since2010 for needing more references. Peridon (talk) 12:38, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy Delete per WP:G4 - recreation of a page previously deleted by AFD CactusWriter (talk) 19:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Miss World 2016[edit]

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Event that still fails WP:CRYSTAL. No confirmed date. No venue. No reliable sources. Not much has changed since this was deleted at the previous AfD debate. Multiple editors are contesting a G4 speedy. • Gene93k (talk) 15:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:56, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Hogarth[edit]

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Could find no sources that indicates subject meets WP:BIO NeilN talk to me 15:05, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I also can't find any good source.--Musa Talk  17:47, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Closing for a second time as it's now an obvious Keep, I probably shouldn't of closed it the first time but whatever it's been reopened and relisted and nothing's changed consensus wise so pointless dragging the AFD on again so just gonna reclose it. (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 11:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whataboutism[edit]

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Article on non-notable neologism that appears to be created in an attempt to use Wikipedia to increase usage of the term. The term itself was made up by The Economist journalist in 2006 and have barely been used ever since. As google search and google trends indicate some usage of the neologism begun in 2014 way after creation of this article. I myself discovered this article when it was linked in political discussion where one of the sides was accused of "whataboutism". It describes Tu quoque fallacy, neutral article for which already exists. The difference with this article is that this one has heavy anti-Russian bias and inherently non-NPOV. Niyaro (talk) 04:19, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that there's evidence that Wikipedia is being used to drive the term's acceptance - the driving force seems to be coming from outside, in the articles sited. Yes, it is the same as Tu quoque - but as Whataboutism is now a commonly used name for Tu quoque, this is a case for merging with Whataboutism, not for deleting it. If you feel the tone is anti-Russian, then please go ahead and edit to make it more balanced. 阝工巳几千凹父工氐 (talk) 04:35, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, there are multiple RS specifically about whataboutism, such as here. This page can be better sourced? Yes, sure. My very best wishes (talk) 20:25, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete Materialscientist (talk) 06:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Finnish people in France[edit]

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No indication topic meets WP:GNG. Editor is creating many such articles including.

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The result was delete Materialscientist (talk) 06:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Albanians in France[edit]

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No indication topic meets WP:GNG. Editor is creating many such articles including.

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The result was delete Materialscientist (talk) 06:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Irish people in France[edit]

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No indication topic meets WP:GNG. Editor is creating many such articles including.

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It should be. Snappy (talk) 21:16, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I did not think of it when I nominated them. There are many more of these which have been created by a bunch of SOCKS. If these are deleted then it might be worthwhile to track the other non-notable ones down and bundle them. JbhTalk 21:21, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Miss World Philippines. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:53, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Miss World Philippines 2016[edit]

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Effectively unsourced (no unrelated sources conform WP:RS, external link is no source) crystal bol. No date, no venue... The Banner talk 14:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:20, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stefan Gaasbeek[edit]

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Article about a non-notable business person. I only found one reliable source that covers the subject in any detail [7]. Fails WP:BASIC. - MrX 14:28, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was 'speedy deleted per G7' Materialscientist (talk) 01:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Polly franks[edit]

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Article about a victim advocate. While I'm sure she does great work and deserves recognition, I can't find enough sources to meet WP:BASIC. There's a brief profile here [8] and a passing mention here [9]. I also assume that the passing mention here [10] is the same person. - MrX 14:04, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep- Many links and references have been added to cite and show that she is a noteworthy individual, She had a hand in getting “Two Strikes and You’re Out Child Protection Act.” passed I think that alone makes her noteworthy, although I will agree the article needs more work — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dtb1987 (talkcontribs) 16:04, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Photogeochemistry[edit]

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I do not think that this a term with any wide currency: possibly worth a redirect, but I don't know where to TheLongTone (talk) 15:24, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete as an obvious hoax -- Y not? 15:08, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jurrien J.B. Le[edit]

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Person does not exist upon further research, and sources are completely random. The diction of the page clearly suggest a hoax, so this page qualifies for speedy deletion. Yiosie 2356 13:21, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Send to draft. Randykitty (talk) 12:45, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tushies Baby Wipes[edit]

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Non-notable brand. TheLongTone (talk) 13:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Send to draft : I think there's a systemic bias problem here - baby care products don't seem to carry the attention in what we normally consider reliable sources. Even Johnson's Baby Wipes, which I would expect anyone to have become a parent in the last 20 years to instantly recognise, is a redlink, and there is a mere cursory mention in Johnson & Johnson. Does being stacked on the shelves of Boots make a product notable? In the case of Tushies, there are references to the product here, here, here, here and here, all of which seem to be independent, but also say nothing much more than "it's a box of baby wipes - boooring". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. — foxj 04:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hemispheres Tour[edit]

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Redirected this to the band but edit undone by article creator. Notability: No reason given why this tour is in any way worth an article. TheLongTone (talk) 12:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:28, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of adjectivals and demonyms for Colorado counties[edit]

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I proposed this list for deletion with the following arguments: "Let's see: the two exceptions, Broomfield and Denver, are included in the parallel list of Colorado cities. All other counties follow a normal pattern. The usefulness of this list is thus effectively zero. The notability of the subject is close to zero as well. There's a reason we don't have this list for any other state (or similar level in any other country), and there is clearly no reason to make an exception for Colorado, as these are not notable or noteworthy demonyms." The ProD was removed by the article creator with reason "While this list is not particularly noteworthy, there are eight exceptions in the adjectival column and two exceptions in the demonym column that do not follow the expected order." The two demonyms I handled above, the eight adjectival "exceptions" are counties which are also adjectivated by an abbreviation (e.g. Adams County and AdamsCo, Boulder County and BoCo). This rather trivial shorthand doesn't seem like sufficient justification to rebut my deletion proposal. Fram (talk) 12:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Sourced or not, verifiability doesn't guarantee inclusion. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:33, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WIll delete "erminal Cycle as well -- RoySmith (talk) 19:58, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Terminal cycle[edit]

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Non-notable artistic works. Article (and author's contribs) seem largely self-promotional. --Non-Dropframe talk 11:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am also nominating the following related page as it is an identical copy.

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Shame on Jeppiz. It is not spam. Terminal series of the videos is a serious work of a reputable artist. It is strongly suggested for reviewers to get educated in contemporary arts before making any judgments or decisions in regards to contemporary art works. It is unconditionally accepted that one needs to know how to read prior to judging any literary work. Butterbeanne (talk)

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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:29, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Michał Cieślak (boxer)[edit]

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Non-notable boxer - does not meet WP:NBOX Peter Rehse (talk) 11:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

H.B.M Fareez Rahman[edit]

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Contested BLP PROD. Dead end. Orphan. Possible COI.  — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 08:47, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 11:59, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of people on the cover of Maxim magazine (US)[edit]

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Fails WP:NLIST, Same kind of non-notable list List of people on the cover of Maxim magazine (India) was deleted recently Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the cover of Maxim magazine (India). Human3015TALK  07:56, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:21, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stan Lowry[edit]

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Tagged for notability since 2014. This article fails WP:SOLDIER and the subject is not notable. Reads like a memorial site Gbawden (talk) 07:34, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, as it lacks notability.--Catlemur (talk) 16:02, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:28, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of people on the cover of Maxim magazine[edit]

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DAB with only one page (another one was deleted as the result of an AfD) Ymblanter (talk) 07:21, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. There's a clear numerical consensus to delete. Moreover, looking at the keep arguments, I don't see any which are either policy-based or persuasive. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Coyne[edit]

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Notability is not inherited - the only reason this person seems to have an article is because they are related to some powerful/famous Canadian political figures. While there is some coverage in RS, the focus of that coverage is really just on the fact that she has stayed out of the public eye and hasn't done anything that would be notable. I don't think that's enough to hang an article on. Most of the other sources cited in the article aren't about Sarah at all (they're about her mother, or one of the Trudeaus) and only mention her in passing. Fyddlestix (talk) 07:17, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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That is quite simply incorrect. Notability is not inherited. Fyddlestix (talk) 12:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just on a point of fact: Sarah Coyne is not now, nor was she ever, the child of a Canadian prime minister. She was born after Pierre Trudeau had left office. Radinbc (talk) 20:33, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That is pure sophistry. Bellczar (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You need to assume good faith, and not attack other editors simply because they disagree with you. I'm sure your arguments were read, they are apparently just not persuasive to the majority of commenters here. They certainly weren't persuasive from my perspective; I think it's patently obvious that the majority of the sources in the article mention the subject only in passing, and that the one article that might be considered as conferring notability is a one-off soft news story. This doesn't meet the threshold for significant coverage in multiple RS that would make her notable. Fyddlestix (talk) 12:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Fyddlestix:, the wikipedia decision making model is supposed to be consensus based. Sorry, but why don't you recognize that this places an obligation on civil and collegial respondents to explicitly state why they think a counter-argument is "just not persuasive"? Consensus and compromise can't be reached when respondents don't read what those they think they disagree with have to say. Consensus and compromise can't be reached when respondents don't respond to what those they think they disagree with have to say.

    I dispute I attacked anyone. Do you think I attacked you in my initial keep? If so, please check again. I may respond more fully to this comment on your talk page. Geo Swan (talk) 17:45, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh, and @Fyddlestix:, how many is "multiple"? You wrote: "...the one article that might be considered as conferring notability is a one-off soft news story. This doesn't meet the threshold for significant coverage in multiple RS..." Multiple, does that include two? You didn't tell people about the second profile of Sarah Coyne, in the January 2014 issue of Frank magazine --Realm of the Coyne. You still haven't responded to my point that if other articles each contain one or two passing mentions of Ms Coyne, but those passing mentions are of different aspects of her life, they too can add up to significant coverage. Geo Swan (talk) 20:59, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Geo Swan: Not particularly interested in replying to further questions from you about this, and I'm under no obligation to explain my !vote beyond the reasons I've already given; it is my assessment that the sources cited in the article are not numerous and not in-depth enough to demonstrate that the subject meets either WP:GNG or WP:BIO. They are mostly passing mentions, and in my judgement they don't meet the standard of significant and in-depth coverage that is required for someone to be notable. That's really all I have to say on the subject, except to note that there's pretty clear evidence (all the delete !votes above) that I'm not the only one who does not see sufficient evidence of notability in either the article or its sources at present. As far as "attacking" other editors, I was referring to your suggestion that the !delete votes "belong to the class of AFD respondents who don't feel obliged to read the arguments they don't agree with." This was un-called for and pretty obviously inaccurate. It seems clear from the comments here that others did read your comments, but that your arguments are just not as clinching as you seem to think there are. Fyddlestix (talk) 21:59, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just a reminder that my post of Oct 22 arguing for deletion included citations of two relevant guidelines. @Geo Swan may not agree with my interpretation of these guidelines but to suggest that I had not referenced any is incorrect.Radinbc (talk) 20:27, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are lots of highly notable people who have a bunch of relatives, who get passing mentions, related that primary highly notable person, who aren't notable themselves. Some other notable people, like, for instance John F. Kennedy, or Queen Elizabeth, have some non-notable relatives, and other relatives who are notable, in their own right. Queen Elizabeth has or had some cousins, who she is close enough to that the sit in the Royal Box, at the race track, but who never open hospitals, or get appointed as the figurehead leader of a charity. When one of Elizabeth's less well-known relatives does get press coverage, for opening a school, or a hospital, or for playing a visible role in a charity, it helps move them into the independently notable sphere.

Several respondents here keep claiming that Sarah is "only known for one thing". I think they mean she is known for being born. I am going to list some other factors. Readers may think these two are notability factors.

Why Sarah Coyne is not an example of a blp1e
event year notes
birth 1991 everyone has a birthday
borne to unmarried parents 1991 once this would have been a huge scandal, now this is relatively commonplace. Alexandre and Zoë had been together for several years before Zoe bore Pierre Emmanuel Trudeau, but they didn't marry until he was about half a year old
discover 1991 there was a flurry of reporting when a reporter found Pierre listed on Sarah's birth certificate, months after her birth.
meets Jimmy Carter 1994 In a relatively recent interview Carter described a faux pas. He was visiting Niagara Fall and by coincidence so were his old friend Pierre and Sarah. He describes greeting 74 year old Pierre, and congratulating him on his beautiful grand-daughter.
At PET's funeral
not mentioned in Justin's eulogy
2000 At funerals, during the eulogy, doesn't the eulogy giver always list the deceased's surviving relatives? But Justin didn't mention Sarah, and that he did not mention her was noticed by all the reporters who covered the funeral

Maybe Sarah's mom explicitly asked Justin to refrain from mentioning Sarah, maybe he just forgot. It is not our place to speculate. But I don't think there is any question this is a separate notable event.

At PET's funeral
greeted by Jimmy Carter
2000 The press covered it, that makes it notable. Note: this is Carter's second meeting with Sarah, as he had met her in Niagara Falls, when she was younger.
At PET's funeral
greeted by Fidel Castro
2000 The press covered it, that makes it notable.
attends UTS 2004? Everyone goes to school. Not everyone goes to an exclusive school, with high admission standards, and a long list of notable alumni
TorStar profile 2010 I think everyone agrees that this profile of Ms Coyne contained all the details required to substantiate the mileposts of her life so far.
counter-reaction to
the TorStar profile
2010 The Toronto Star was criticized by Sarah's mom, for invading her privacy. And, the Toronto Star was criticized by several of its rival publications. I suggest the counter-reaction is a separate event. Personally, I found the rival's criticism hypocritical. While mocking the Toronto Star, they managed to repeat many of, or most of the high points of the Toronto Star story.
asked about her political ambitions 2013 When Justin became leader of the Liberal Party of Canada reporters sought out Sarah, and asked her about her political ambitions. If they had written that the new leader has a half-sister, that would be coverage about him. But when they seek her out to ask about her political ambitions, that coverage is about her. I call this a separate event.
Frank magazine profile 2014 I haven't read it, as it is behind a paywall. I think it is worth going to the library to get a print copy of this article. Several contributors wrote, above, that they require multiple articles focussed primarily on her. Well, this is article number two.

I have often disagreed with the contributors from the military wikiproject, over the value of awards. By long-standing tradition, individuals who rise to the rank of General or Admiral, or individuals who win their countries very highest award for bravery, like the Victoria Cross, or Congressional Medal of Honor, are considered notable for that fact alone. I routinely found contributors from the military wikiprojects trying to treat lesser awards as if they conferred zero notability. I strongly disagree with this.

Less than one percent of our BLP articles are about an individual who had their notability established by a single event. Almost all of the individuals who have BLP articles had their notability established by adding up multiple notability factors. In my opinion there should be no question that a bravery medal of less prominence than the Victoria Cross still establishes significant notability.

Anyhow, if there is anyone who still thinks Coyne is an example of a blp1e, I'd appreciate it if they would explain their challenge to my reasoning here. Geo Swan (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly how much of that coverage documents her doing anything that would be expected to get a person into an encyclopedia? Virtually all of it is about her being born, being a four year old who happened to be around when famous people ran into each other, and on and so forth — virtually none of it involves her doing anything noteworthy. And incidentally, Frank falls into the "absolutely positively under exactly no circumstances legitimate sourcing for anything on Wikipedia NEVER EVER NEVER EVER" class of sourcing — so that article counts for half of less than nothing. Bearcat (talk) 23:37, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, I think I have quoted GNG several times in this discussion. I think I have pointed out that there is no requirement that a person "do anything" to be considered notable. Rather GNG says that what makes someone notable is when RS write about them.

    Some people may think I am being difficult by quoting what GNG actually says, when many respondents here seem to want to act like the guideline says something else. If there was a overwhelming consensus to ignore what GNG actually says, and to not consider anyone notable, unless they had actually "done something", I'd (1) go along; (2) urge all those insistent people to take steps to begin to bring the guideline into line with what they seem to think is established practice.

    But, if there were an overwhelming consensus to ignore this part of GNG, wouldn't there be a long discussion in a more general fora than an AFD, where the wider community discussed this? Geo Swan (talk) 15:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This continued tactic of throwing everything at the wall in the hope that something sticks, while demanding that other editors challenge the claims is starting to look less and less like reasoned advocacy. Are we supposed to accept that because someone is one of thousands who have attended a private school such as UTC that this is a notability factor? Are we expected to agree that a eulogy always includes ‘a list of the deceased’s surviving relatives?’ @Geo Swan better hope not because even the eulogy he references doesn’t do that. There is no such list in the Justin Trudeau eulogy for his father, so Sarah Coyne’s presence or absence on such a list is moot. It’s not entirely clear that something that didn’t happen constitutes an event, anyway. Frank magazine is trotted out as a reliable source. There is no way that Frank would pass the WP:RS test. As noted in the Wikipedia entry for Frank, the publication (in all its various guises over the years) has been a scandal sheet – perhaps most noted for running a “satirical” advertisement in 1991 inviting readers to “deflower Caroline Mulroney,” the daughter of the then Prime Minister Brian Mulroney. Enough, already. Radinbc (talk) 00:15, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Clarification please. In this edit I tried to offer a counter-argument to those who claimed Sarah Coyne should be characterized as a blp1e, by suggesting a dozen or so individual events. Thanks for voicing your concerns about some of them. Could you please clarify whether your position is that you still think she is best characterized as a blp1e?

    Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 15:16, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - there seemed to be some confusion about my above !vote. Searches revealed that this person did not meet either WP:BIO or WP:GNG, indeed, since this article did not even meet the lower standard of A7, since no notability was asserted in the article, it most likely should have been speedily deleted. Onel5969 TT me 20:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. North America1000 02:40, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jake Brimmer[edit]

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He has not played a professional senior game at club or international level. Article fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Also fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 06:33, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. Potted history of the player on the FFA website.
  2. Substantial interview with the player from local newspaper.
  3. Significant article exclusively on the player from a national sporting magazine.
  4. Polish coverage of the player.
  5. Indonesian coverage of the player
  6. Maltese coverage of the player
  7. Regional level coverage that goes far beyond simple transfer reporting.

There is a lot of "look at this wonderkid"-guff and reports of his free kicks, but there is also plenty of coverage from a local, regional, national and international perspective that goes beyond transfer talk and provides in depth commentary on and interviews with the player. Fenix down (talk) 11:59, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DC Fights Back[edit]

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Questionably notable and improvable as I'm also questionable of its current existence with the listed website no longer existing and nothing to suggest a new website and also my searches finding nothing better than this which includes George Kerr's LinkedIn listing the group is apparently still active and finally this article has not changed much since starting in December 2007. Pinging Qwertyus (fun to spell that name), Gilliam and Niteshift36. SwisterTwister talk 06:20, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:59, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Art + Soul[edit]

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Questionably notable and improvable and I'm not sure if the Hetti Perkins article can be improved as well although my searches found links specifically only for her (and not this Art + Soul) here, here and here so this suggests this Art + Soul is not independently notable and improvable thus should only be mentioned at Hetti Perkins's article. SwisterTwister talk 06:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Australians Graeme Blundell must have been impressed, he wrote a lot about it.
Blundell, Graeme (22 July 2014), "Aboriginal art for a modern audience", The Australian
Blundell, Graeme (15 July 2014), "Art of the political, without preaching", The Australian
Blundell, Graeme (8 July 2014), "Perkins returns to bare Aboriginal art and soul", The Australian
Blundell, Graeme (21 October 2010), "Putting Aboriginal art in perspective", The Australian
Blundell, Graeme (7 October 2010), "Joining the dots on Aboriginal art", The Australian
Blundell, Graeme (2 October 2010), "Joining the dots", The Australian
Lot's of others also covered it.
"Voices of the people", The West Australian, 8 July 2014
"art + soul Tuesday, ABC1, 8.30pm", Canberra Times, 7 July 2014
Purdon, Fiona (14 October 2010), "Hettie treads a well-decorated path", The Courier-Mail
Kalina, Paul (7 October 2010), "Drawing out connections", The Age
Anderson, Doug (7 October 2010), "TELEVISION", The Sydney Morning Herald
"Eye to the future", The West Australian, 6 October 2010
Schwartzkoff, Louise (4 October 2010), "Connecting the dots", The Australian
Power, Liza (2 October 2010), "Fluid face of art and soul", The Age
Meacham, Steve (29 September 2010), "Curator unveils a triple treat", The Sydney Morning Herald
Taylor, Andrew (26 September 2010), "Indigenous revelations", Sun Herald
Dow, Steve (5 September 2010), "The art of living", Sun Herald
Book had multiple reviews, most I found were short. (damn. $90 for a book)
McEvoy, Marc (19 December 2010), "ART", Sun Herald
Rey, Una (13 November 2010), "ART+ SOUL", The Newcastle Herald
"must read", Brisbane News, 27 October 2010
Grishin, Sasha (2 October 2010), "Advocates of Aboriginal art; ABORIGINAL ART", Canberra Times
Overall, more than enough for WP:GNG. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Found some urls for above, unfortunately most of The Australian ones are subscription links. The Liza Power/The Age one was already on the talk page and should of been enough to convince most of notability. Might be able to find more sources from here. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:43, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:01, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnie Aarons[edit]

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fails WP:ACTOR. Minor roles such as "Waitress," "Lady in the bathroom" etc. Previous nomination was withdrawn because it was created by a sockpuppet. МандичкаYO 😜 04:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Ticked-Off Trannies with Knives. (non-admin closure) Kharkiv07 (T) 16:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Krystal Summers[edit]

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non-notable actor with only three low-budget credits, no indication meets WP:PORNBIO either МандичкаYO 😜 04:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. And renamed (non-admin closure) Yash! 05:04, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of films featuring anthropomorphic insects[edit]

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Unsourced, orphaned article with WP:NOTE concerns since 2012. I PRODed this article not realizing that another user had already done so not too long ago, making this article inelegible for deletion under WP:PROD. My concerns still stand, and since the article hasn't been improved since 2012, I doubt it will be anytime soon. I personally do not think this list is notable or adds anything of particular value to the project at this time. Therefore I recommend that it be deleted. Mww113 (talk) 03:20, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:21, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Winona Dimeo-Ediger[edit]

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No notability. Does not meet WP:AUTHOR or WP:BIO. Cramprius (talk) 02:42, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete Materialscientist (talk) 06:08, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Croats in France[edit]

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No indication topic meets WP:GNG. Editor is creating many such articles including.

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  • Surely the test is not the size of the group, but rather the amount of coverage in reliable sources? That's likely to be related to group size, but some smaller groups could meet the notability guideline while some larger ones don't. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:56, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is whether there is enough significant coverage for a stand alone article. Also, the topic definition is a bit off since it is including immigrants and those simply with 'ancestry'. This problem exists with all of these topics. JbhTalk 13:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete Materialscientist (talk) 06:10, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainians in France[edit]

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No indication topic meets WP:GNG. Editor is creating many such articles including.

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The result was delete Materialscientist (talk) 06:09, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Russians in France[edit]

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No indication topic meets WP:GNG. Editor is creating many such articles including.

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The result was delete Materialscientist (talk) 06:09, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Belarusians in France[edit]

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No indication topic meets WP:GNG. Editor is creating many such articles including.

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 16:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MELERIGAMY[edit]

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I find no coverage in online reliable sources. Doesn't appear to meet the general notability guidelines. Perhaps there's more in another language, but based on the spelling used in this article, even verifiability is a problem. —Largo Plazo (talk) 23:14, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:23, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of women investors[edit]

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I might be wrong but I really believe that this is a case of WP:LISTCRUFT. Anyone who invests money is an investor and they are either male or female. To my mind that fails the Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information test. This is an unlimited list and is not encyclopedic IMO Gbawden (talk) 10:47, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Further comment. It is also useful to note the criteria for stand-alone lists as applied to this one:
  • If this person weren't an "investor: would it reduce their fame or significance?
  • Is this person a canonical example of some facet of investment?
In many of the cases on that list (possibly the majority), the answer would be "no". Thus, what is the value of this stand-alone list? Voceditenore (talk) 07:05, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As Voceditenore noted, the list could benefit from well-defined inclusion criteria, but that isn't a reason for deletion. Per WP:CLN, this list is also complementary to the category, which is defining. gobonobo + c 09:17, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:28, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ranjit Bawa[edit]

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Questionably notable and it has not improved much since starting in March (article may have been started by Ranjit Bawa himself and had not been changed until last month) and the best my searches found were this, this and this suggesting there are surely more sources about him. However, I'm unsure if this article can be kept and improved. Pinging BethNaught. SwisterTwister talk 07:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I wouldn't be so bold to say that 4meter4 as this past version here and what's more is this one clearly was not acceptable or clear with notability thus that would need an AfD. SwisterTwister talk 17:08, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect. You need to read WP:Before; in particular Section C. You knew there were reliable sources proving notability. You had the opportunity to improve the article yourself with those references. Stop waisting everyone else's time with lazy nominating habits.4meter4 (talk) 17:14, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The only keep opinions were from IPs with little history and who failed to make any policy-based arguments. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:25, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Konopasek[edit]

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Local tv reporter. Not enough sourcing independent of his employers to show notability. No reliable source for award, but a regional Emmy does not make for automatic notability. Also appears to be a autobiography, but that isn't a major concern for here. John from Idegon (talk) 05:25, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 12:48, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kirsten Holmstedt[edit]

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Doesn't quite pass WP:Author. Her claim to notability is that she's written three books, but only one has received any awards or significant attention.

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You found a another source... for her book(s). Her first book is (probably) notable. However, (with the exception of the Shesource link, which is used twice, and which I'm not convinced is WP:RS, as it seems to have no editorial oversight and claims to exists solely to promote female "experts",) none of the references give in-depth information about HER, so she doesn't pass WP:GNG. And as a result, we don't really have enough referenced information available to write a decent biography, even if she was notable. Further, practically all available references relate to only one of her books. That isn't nearly enough to meet any of the criteria at WP:Author, also see WP:ONEEVENT and WP:NOTINHERITED. Yes, "if" her books and her life story are made into feature-length films, all of her books become best-sellers and are reviewed in The New York Times, or she otherwise becomes much more famous, she might then be notable enough for an article, but that is one of the worst arguments to make at AfD.
So, how exactly is she notable? ~'ZupWitDat‽~ 19:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I'll note that I do respect the consensus of the above commentators and would not oppose a "soft delete", if that means a redirect to the article about her one notable book, as opposed to deleting the page outright. ~'ZupWitDat‽~ 19:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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@Tokyogirl79:
"There are plenty of articles out there..." WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is one of the worst arguments you can make.
"an author is not absolutely required to have coverage about themselves in order to pass notability guidelines." So you admit she doesn't pass WP:GNG, and would therefore have to pass WP:Author to be notable. I've left a detailed comment as to how and why she doesn't pass WP:Author below.
"We shouldn't delete an article just because the sourcing might not be enough to really source a biography." Why should we keep a WP:BLP we couldn't possibly write? BLPs require the best of sourcing. Keeping an article that may never be more than a substub does not improve the the encyclopedia.
I'm not saying her one notable book isn't notable, I'm saying that having exactly one notable book isn't itself enough to make an author automatically notable, and nobody's provided any evidence it's otherwise. ~'ZupWitDat‽~ 20:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Someone can pass WP:NAUTHOR and be considered notable. The thing is, all we have to do to establish notability for an author is to show that her work has received coverage in multiple sources. One of her books is notable and another has gained coverage as well. The other book might not merit a separate article, but NAUTHOR has never required that the author have published books that would merit individual articles. DGG can back me up on this as well, as he also frequently edits articles about authors and books. As far as the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS bit goes, what I actually meant by this is that there is plenty of precedent for us to keep articles on authors based on coverage for their work even though the author themselves have received little to no coverage. If Holmstedt only had one book that received reviews I'd agree with you, but she hasn't. Her second book has received coverage. Limited coverage, but it's still coverage. Because of this, she does pass the notability guidelines for authors which again. Also, nobody is saying anything here about inherited notability. The argument we're making in this situation is this:
Holmstedt has released three books. Two of those books have received coverage, albeit one far more so than the other. One of the qualifications for NAUTHOR is that the author's body of work must have received coverage. Since she has two books that have received coverage, she passes NAUTHOR.
NAUTHOR was a guideline written specifically for authors because many authors tend to receive coverage for their works (ie, reviews) but not as much for themselves. What you're trying to do here pretty much goes against what has been established at NAUTHOR. GNG is not expected or even supposed to apply to every person because there are situations where it would disqualify people who are notable for things that would not gain oodles of traditional coverage. Any experienced AfD editor will back up that "one size does not fit all" with notability guidelines. As far as "not inherited" goes, no one is trying to say that another book would be notable because a previous one is notable enough for its own article. What we're arguing here is that the author has received coverage for multiple books and as such, would pass NAUTHOR - a guideline that does not require that the author herself have received coverage independent of her works. You can try to lobby for this to change, but it's unlikely to pass.
I also have to note that Holmstedt's work as a whole is used as a citation in various works, such as the MIT Press book When Johnny and Jane come marching home: how all of us can help veterans. Her second book The Girls Come Marching Home is used as a citation on pages 64 and 66 and Holmstedt's name is specifically highlighted. (I've added this as a source to the article.) You can also see her cited here, in this University of Nebraska Press book (for her first and second book). I've also found another review for her second book via Google Scholar (which I rarely use) from the Virginia Law Review, which looks to be run through the United States Department of Veterans Affairs. Her first and second books are also given a pretty thorough dissection in a doctoral thesis written by a University of South Florida student - and doctoral theses are considered to be usable as a reliable source.
Basically, the long and short here is that authors do not have to have coverage for themselves to pass notability guidelines, as coverage/recognition for their overall work is sufficient and Holmstedt has received coverage for her work as a whole, not just for her first book. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Like Czar, I think the sources presented are still weak at best. Please answer my question above, rephrased slightly here: with so little sourceable biographical information, why should we keep a WP:BLP that we can't possibly write (beyond a substub)? ~'ZupWitDat‽~ 16:46, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Heck, now that I'm looking for things other than reviews, I'm actually finding enough to where I could justify her second book having an article. I also need to point out that what Hullaballoo was saying was that the LJ review means that it's likely that other sources exist, just that they're likely in places that many wouldn't be likely to check or even know to check, which is fairly common. It's especially common with authors whose work is of greater interest to the academic crowd, since mainstream sources tend to focus on more easily marketable fare like the new Dan Brown novel. Not saying that the mainstream sources are wrong for doing this, just that they have to go with what people are more likely to read, especially since there will always be more books than there are available review/coverage spaces in any given medium. In any case, it can usually be far more difficult to find coverage with academic sources unless you have access to academic databases, as the majority of academic sources do not show up in a Google or Bing search for whatever reason. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:53, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Hullaballoo Wolfowitz:
Nice misdirection; WP:NOTINHERITED was only a small part of my argument, and then only as a response to another comment. I've struck it, if only to show that my comment stands without it. Keep commentators are suggesting that because one of her books has enough reviews to be barely notable, she must be notable; that's wrong, and is almost the same logical fallacy explained in WP:NOTINHERITED. Having one somewhat notable book simply isn't enough to make her or her other books automatically notable. {Side note: This is exactly why my opening statement was so short and "weakly argued" @Courcelles: I read a number of recent AfDs, and concluded that longer comments are rarely read and comprehended in their entirety by good-faith contributors, and only serve to provoke such subterfuge as this}.
"Most authors are notable precisely because they have created notable books"; she has created exactly one book that could be considered at all notable, which is something, but not quite enough to pass any existent notability criteria (see below). And if she were notable, there should be some sources about HER (it seems Shesource is basically Facebook for self-proclaimed female "experts", and so doesn't count), so far, there's none.
Other than that, your argument seems to be that more sources probably exist, but you can't provide them right now; unfortunately, notability requires verifiable evidence. ~'ZupWitDat‽~ 20:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
1. The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
The sources presented do not demonstrate this.
2. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique.
Definitely not applicable.
3. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
Note that to meet this criteria, the works must be well-known AND be the subject of a film etc. Hers aren't.
4. The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.
Definitely not (a), (b), & (d). A very weak argument could be made for (c), but again, the few reviews here do not show "significant critical attention" for her works. Her works are not frequently cited by other "experts", they have not been reviewed by notable critics or in widely-circulated mainstream sources like The New York Times, they have not been the subject of films or similar derivative works; they simply aren't that notable, and neither is she. ~'ZupWitDat‽~ 20:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • LJ isn't the strongest source, but so far there's been no consensus that it is unusable as a reliable source that would show notability. The subject has been broached at NBOOK and I've even started one of those discussions myself, but there's been no agreement on it being unusable. Even Kirkus Reviews is still considered usable and they're a trade with some serious issues when it comes to reviews. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:55, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Well I'm in the camp that a two-sentence catalog-style listing (literally) in this case is not something to count towards significant coverage. I think if it gets down to the point of quibbling over whether something like LJ or Choice counts (Kirkus tends to be longer), the case for keeping is weak—it means that we're trying to decide whether a two-sentence summary of the book (which is already not worth citing if any other title has covered that info) makes or breaks a book's coverage. Articles should have enough for us to write a full overview of the subject. czar 14:14, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't see it. (Could someone add a quote to the Caplan book citation? Otherwise it's unhelpful to me.) Unless there are sources about her, the coverage is explicitly about the books and the articles should be about the books. czar 14:14, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Czar, there are pretty extensive mentions. She's used as a reference in multiple chapters, ten times. Here are the portions that mention her in the book chapters and the notations that did more than just list the name of her book. Some of the notations are pretty extensive, enough to where they could probably be included as well for page notation. One of them actually used a full paragraph from her second book. It's pretty extensively used as a source and it's the only one of her books that is brought up in the work at all. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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  1. Kirstin Holmstedt describes many problems of these mothers in her book about women in the military. Those who come home physically injured or emotionally limited (detached, overwhelmed, angry) feel guilty or ashamed of being unable to carry out ordinary motherly tasks. (p. 64)
  2. And Holmstedt relates the story of a black woman and a biracial Pacific Islander and Irish woman serving in Iraq, where their fellow soldiers repeatedly subjected them to racist slurs and racist treatment. (p. 66)
  3. Notation #40 on page 234-235 reads “Holmstedt in The Girls Come Marching Home relates the story of a woman soldier who was shot at four times in the Army, three times by Americans and once by Iraqi celebratory fire.
  4. Notation #57 on 236 reads “Holmstedt in The Girls Come Marching Home recounts the story of a woman who told her platoon sergeant that another soldier had sexually assaulted her, and the sergeant said they needed to keep the perpetrator in the service because they needed him to work.”
  5. Notation #85 on 238 gives an extensive quote from page 149 of The Girls Come Marching Home, which goes on for about a paragraph: “Contractors like KBR provided … shower water that was not disinfected with chlorine or properly filtered; it was concentrated waste stream … She wonders what exactly the contractors spent the money on … [T]he contractors carelessly exposed troops … to E. coli, typhoid fever, and hepatitis … McNeill and those she served with had grown used to an upset stomach and the smell of sulfur in the showers … She carried a new M16 that was missing a part, so it wasn’t a reliable weapon. She carried a gas mask with a “training” canister rather than the type that would actually work in an attack.” The quote is used to back up a passage in the book about how soldiers were lied to by the government or military.
Thanks, but isn't that all coverage about the book though? What sources are being used to show that the author herself is notable? I see a notable book, a perhaps notable second book, and the issue is where to put coverage on the latter (since there's nothing on the author herself). If the books are related (are they?) the notable book's page would be a fine place to mention what the author did following the first book's release. So in absence of sources about the subject or sources that assert her uniqueness as an author, a redirect to the major book still appears to be the solution that covers all bases. czar 15:22, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kharkiv07 (T) 15:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kara Cooney[edit]

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Seemingly NN academic. Despite some publications and contribution to a documentary, fails all 9 elements of WP:NACADEMICS. The Dissident Aggressor 18:18, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 16:46, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stagebeast[edit]

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Effectively unsourced affair that fails WP:GNG. No interwikis, while you should expect Dutch or French versions of this Belgian band. The Banner talk 00:07, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Vevo. Guerillero | Parlez Moi 00:47, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

24-Hour Vevo Record[edit]

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Seems to be something made up one day. No Google hits at all barring the sources listed in the article (all of which reference Vevo's Twitter handle, which seems to be the only place this 'record' exists on the internet). Willing to be proven wrong, but not convinced this is notable enough for an article of its own. — foxj 00:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep The Vevo-record isn't something that's made up. The article is filled with sources from Billboard, one of the most respected news outlets in terms of music, and others. Vevo even has a webpage dedicated to the record (See here). Type in "Taylor Swift Vevo record" on Google and you'll find over 600,000 results with over dozens of articles reporting on it. So no, the Vevo record isn't made up and I don't see a problem with it having it's separate article keeping track of the record. Moonsprite (talk) 10:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC) Blocked as sockpuppet[reply]

*Comment only I'm not sure why it's necessary for this discussion to be reopened. The entire reason this discussion got started is because the person who nominated it for deletion thought the Vevo record was something that was made up. Now that Adele's Hello has just beaten the record, just take a look at all the media coverage about her beating the record is taking place. It DOES exist and is it fully acknowledged by VEVO. The person also claimed there when you Google the Vevo record, the only thing that appears are the sources mentioned in the article. This is not true at all. Just Google Taylor Swift Vevo record and you'll see dozens of articles reporting on it. Moonsprite (talk) 20:01, 24 October 2015 (UTC) Blocked as sockpuppet[reply]

@Moonsprite: Because A) consensus had not been reached B) you are not permitted to close a deletion discussion in which you yourself have participated. МандичкаYO 😜 01:58, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

*Strong keep The Vevo record gives such a big insight into specific events in popular culture. Merging it would mean nobody would know who held the record in 2012, 2013, 2014, or any other year for that matter. There would be a loss of knowledge that would be very hard to get a look at anywhere else. And the Vevo record exists nonetheless. Just because Vevo hasn't decided to give out psychical awards for this, doesn't make it any less valid. We live in a time where millions upon millions of people can watch something in 24 hours, and we have the technology to keep track of it, but it's not considered "notable enough" to get an article because it "doesn't exist". I'm urging a strong keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UniverseLight (talkcontribs) 21:01, 24 October 2015 (UTC) Blocked as sockpuppet[reply]

@UniverseLight: Yet only DigitalSpy has been reporting it (the first four). Was it really relevant? sounds like fan stuff until the "We Can't Stop" controversy happened and everybody wanted to know how many views it got. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 02:36, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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@Vesna Wylde: It's not for the most views on YouTube. It's only for music videos for musicians whose labels are signed with VEVO. МандичкаYO 😜 01:49, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikimandia: Way to over-scrutinise somebody's words. Of course that's what I meant; I also was trying to say that most views in 24 hours on YouTube in general is a pretty big deal in the media and popular culture, and that an article on it should exist, regardless of whether or not an official accolade for music videos by Vevo exists and can be verified by reliable sources. Philip Terry Graham 16:14, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vesna Wylde: I don't see how I overscrutinized your words. That's what you said, and you still don't seem to understand the difference. The real champion of this criteria (most viewed video in 24 hours on YouTube) is Gangnam Style by Psy, but it's not even on this list because Psy is not signed to a VEVO label. I agree that most views in 24 hours on YouTube is a big deal for pop culture, but that's not what this article is about. МандичкаYO 😜 20:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikimandia: " It's purely a marketing thing." Yeah, so is Valentine's Day, should we merge that with Love too? And you're acting like there are so many more videos that are being watched millions upon millions of times in 24 hours. Besides Psy's video, it's pretty much just Vevo music videos. Just check List of most viewed online videos in first 24 hours. Over half of the videos on that list have received the Vevo record. Besides, if you check stats.grok.se, the article received over 15,000 views on October 24, 2015. Clearly, enough people think this award is "notable" enough to look it up.
You don't seem to understand how notability on Wikipedia works if that is your analogy. Additionally, people will still be able to find it on the VEVO article. That's what merge means. МандичкаYO 😜 19:54, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's not really relevant for an AfD, although I looked at the talk page and archive for Vevo and there is no such discussion I could see. By the way @Moonsprite:, are you also Alvandria, this article's creator? МандичкаYO 😜 00:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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