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St Luke's Church

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 1 Apr 2012 at 02:01:32 (UTC)

Reason

An attractive setting for quaint church with a lengthy lineage.

Articles in which this image appears

Frampton Mansell

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture

Creator

Saffron Blaze

• Support as nominator --Saffron Blaze (talk) 02:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Quaint is a great description. I love how you've included the drop in front of the church, great for showing the environs. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Jkadavoor (talk) 05:14, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The rock retaining wall looks over processed - or is that just my eyes? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 10:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Not sure what you mean. This one is pretty much straight from RAW as I was quite enamoured of the natural lighting. Saffron Blaze (talk) 10:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• I think that the angle of the sun makes the wall's surface particularly contrasty; I'm not seeing anything that jumps out as a sharpening or noise-suppression artifact. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Beautiful lighting. J Milburn (talk) 16:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Nicely taken, once again. I'd like to get out into the countryside a bit more and do something similar. There are a lot of beautiful old buildings (churches or otherwise) in pretty natural settings. You've clearly gone out of your way to find a pleasing composition. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 10:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Colin°^Talk 21:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Frampton Mansell St Lukes Church.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 10:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Connie Jones

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Reason

Nice portrait of a notable cornetist

Articles in which this image appears

Connie Jones

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment

Creator

Vincent & Bella Productions

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 10:34, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support; I can get behind this. J Milburn (talk) 16:13, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I have added this image to two additional under-illustrated articles where it also carries significant EV; cornet (as an example of the instrument in use) and brass instrument (as the only example of a brass instrument actually being played!). - Zephyris _Talk 11:13, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- I really like that you can see the crowd in the bell part. Michael miceli (talk) 15:47, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support -- Not especially keen on the background (stripe is distracting) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose: Crop is too tight and feels like a snapshot. Julia\^talk 19:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Good EV indeed but I gree with Julia.   ■ MMXX  ^talk  11:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just noticed voting period was over, just one hour late!   ■ MMXX  ^talk  11:44, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jessica Ennis long jumping

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 31 Mar 2012 at 21:59:18 (UTC)

Reason

A current and popular young British athlete doing one of the things she does best. Focus is satisfyingly straight on her face and the image has been the lead in her article since at least May last year.

Articles in which this image appears

Jessica Ennis, long jump (but only just added)

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Sport

Creator

Adam Kerfoot-Roberts

• Support as nominator --Julia\^talk 21:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Support for Jessica Ennis, oppose for long jump. A good action shot of her doing the jump, but for long jump we don't get to see the entire sandpit area or runway, which would allow us to put it into context. We don't know from this photo that she's doing a long jump as opposed to just any old jump. Matthewedwards :  Chat  22:26, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  The long jump article is under-illustrated, and this picture has been placed carefully in the section that describes the final part of the jump, so it's entirely relevant to that content. Other pictures would do a better job of illustrating the sandpit, but this one doesn't have to. Also, there's no need to oppose because of one article placement as long as the EV is present elsewhere? Strange way to vote. Julia\^talk 22:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I always assumed that it had to do with the way it was captioned and linked at WP:Featured pictures. Oh well. Matthewedwards :  Chat  02:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I think the general assumption is that since articles are to be put in order of greatest to least EV, where greatest EV usually coincides with narrowest scope, that the narrowest scope will be the nominal one at WP:FP listing. In the rare case that the greatest EV is for the article about the creator (notable artist/photographer), the second best may be included for variety. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 08:53, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose due to motion blur. Fine for an action shot, I guess, but not exactly the best way to identify someone. Honestly, I got an instant headache looking at it, although it's not as bad as an image I've seen at FPC on Commons. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:00, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Good action shot, managed to get a full shot of the face and everything. Clegs (talk) 08:36, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support. Could be sharper, but it has a lot of personality. Chick Bowen 05:34, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per Clegs. 2ms shutter speed leaves nothing to be desired. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 16:24, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 14:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Crucified Christ (Velázquez)

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 1 Apr 2012 at 01:12:42 (UTC)

Reason

High resolution, good quality, notable (if not iconic) work by a famous artist

Articles in which this image appears

Christ Crucified (Velázquez), Christianity, Christ myth theory

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings

Creator

Diego Velázquez

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:12, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. Clegs (talk) 08:53, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 06:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support in its own right. Brandmeister^talk 10:32, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Clears the bar that we've set here. Cowtowner (talk) 17:12, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Cristo crucificado.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 14:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HP Pavilion at San Jose

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 1 Apr 2012 at 13:41:37 (UTC)

Reason

Sharp and clear well-composed image, with high EV

Articles in which this image appears

HP Pavilion at San Jose, Hewlett-Packard, List of attractions in Silicon Valley, San Jose, California

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture

Creator

JaGa

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 13:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Needs a better caption. Dusty777 16:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I changed the caption. That's what you meant? Tomer T (talk) 17:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I meant... Its more informative. Full Support. Dusty777 02:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - Very sharp, high EV, and ... me wantee that camera Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Dusty777 02:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Great shot. J Milburn (talk) 12:24, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support e^xtra999 (talk) 13:44, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 06:16, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• oppose This is a stitched image so the high-resolution is to be expected. Indeed it is probably downsampled but I have no problem with that given that it is 20MP. Unfortunately the quality has deteriorated since the first upload. The second upload (apparently to fix stitching errors) has a significantly lower JPG quality and strong JPG artefacts are visible in the sky. In fact, even the first image would benefit from a higher JPG quality level to avoid gnats around high-contrast areas. The second upload involved a strong adjustment, presumably from this JPG, which is a no-no. This has just emphasised the JPG artefacts in the sky, which are visible even at normal screen resolution. This image could be rescued if the original photographer could upload a higher-quality JPG, along with the later adjustments that improve the levels. Colin°^Talk 22:05, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:HP Pavilion (angle).jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 16:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deep sea fauna around hydrothermal vent

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 2 Apr 2012 at 09:48:38 (UTC)

Reason

One of the elements of our systemic bias is that we under-feature marine material, especially from the extreme deep. This was taken at a depth of 2602m, and shows a population of Yeti Crabs (white) going about their business around a hydrothermal vent. The image also shows species of Vulcanolepas and Peltospiroidea, which are annotated.

Articles in which this image appears

Kiwaidae, hydrothermal vent

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology

Creator

A. D. Rogers et al., edited by Papa Lima Whiskey 2

• Support as nominator --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 09:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Question -- What's that line? Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:18, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to the caption it's a 10 cm scale bar. O.J. (talk) 12:24, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • That looks... well, not very useful. It may be okay for the foreground, but it is useless the second we have some depth. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • It passed academic peer review. Do you have a better suggestion? Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 14:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • For FP, I think a picture without the bar would be better. It's on a busy background, so we're losing detail. For images on a plain background, fine. For this... I don't think it works, from a composition standpoint. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:16, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • I don't think removing the information entirely is a step forward, in EV terms. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 15:27, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • Information could go on the description page. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:38, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
              • It's already on the description page. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 15:44, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                • Then I don't see a point for the bar. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:40, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                  • I think putting a scale bar on an image with depth like this is a bit of a joke. JJ Harrison (talk) 07:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                    • I don't see how you can give any sense of scale to it otherwise. Like I said, this was accepted for publication in PLoS, so the scale was either requested or accepted by two or three academic peer reviewers (not sure how many PLoS requires). Removing it gains very little, because you'd have to clone in the background - or get original copy from the researchers. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 11:59, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                      • As I've explained before, the problem is perspective (eg). It makes the scale bars almost meaningless. JJ Harrison (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                        • And that's exactly why it's explicitly stated that the scale applies to the foreground. You may have realised that background sizes can be roughly estimated on the basis that the crabs in the background aren't, in reality, smaller than the ones in the foreground. Your argument really makes no sense to me - it's the equivalent of saying because we can't represent ultraviolet in human vision, let's have no colour photography at all. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 09:13, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                        • Where in the foreground? Perspective still applies there. JJ Harrison (talk) 02:21, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                          • I don't think we need to make ourselves stupider than we are. It's pretty clear to me where the foreground is. I understand you may have felt your feathers ruffled by suggestions that you should include scales in some of your images in the past. I stand by the need for them. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 17:07, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Quality isn't that great, and the bar really puts me off. Clegs (talk) 08:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you should consider the problems of shooting at 2600m (thick glass) and near a HTV (hot currents, murky water from suspended sediments/biomass) - compare e.g. another prominently used hi-res photograph. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 11:59, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have to agree here, at these depths and water conditions the thickness of glass necessary to keep the camera from turning into a mini-crushed version of it's self poses some limitations in quality one can reasonably expect. That and the rareness of such an image, people RARELY visit these locations, and its LIKELY next time someone does visit this area could be barren and may NEVER be photographed again. Thermal vents and the associated communities are very temporary, and not a lot of people are researching them and have the funding to afford to dive on them. Some technical images one has to be a bit forgiving in the image quality, and even size in some cases like many space photographs that are featured pictures, or ones like File:Pale_Blue_Dot.png which doesn't even come close to size requirements but is clearly something that should be featured because we likely will never get an image like that again. — raekyt 00:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • I still oppose because of the bar. it's epically distracting. Clegs (talk) 11:28, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support nice, rare and very interesting image. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 06:54, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose because of that bar, as I've discussed above. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 16:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Crucified Soldier

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 31 Mar 2012 at 00:52:40 (UTC)

Reason

Striking design, high resolution and quality

Articles in which this image appears

The Crucified Soldier, Crucifixion in the arts

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle or Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/World War I

Creator

Fernando Amorsolo, restored by Crisco 1492

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:52, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, prefer Edit. Very valuable illustration for the article. Jujutacular (talk) 03:06, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Question Why does the poster have text in both Spanish and English? What's its historical background. Nick-D (talk) 10:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Spanish text means the same thing as the English text, the poster was most likely used in some bilingual areas. I didn't see any commentary on it at loc: [1]. Jujutacular (talk) 12:25, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Considering who the artist is, the poster may have been published in the Philippines as well. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Without knowing the historic background of the image's unusual use of both English and Spanish, it's hard to see what it's EV is. As such, I'm regretfully going to oppose this nomination on EV ground. Nick-D (talk) 09:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • LOC says published in Manila, Philippines. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:35, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • OK that helps, without more information it's hard to judge the EV of the image though. As such, I'm moving to neutral. Nick-D (talk) 09:43, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose We have at last count 11 FPs of Allied propaganda material and none for the Central Powers. I consider this a huge problem for Wikipedia's objectivity, to be rectified before we promote any more Allied material. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 17:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• As I've noted time and again, that's not one of the criteria. Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:20, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• It's one of the overriding principles of any encyclopedia and as such, overrides the criteria. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 21:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Isn't this just a function of availability as opposed to some other agenda? Particularly so since this is English Wikipedia. A great image with EV should always be open for consideration. Otherwise we will get rules like too many butterflies not enough moths, stop promoting hummingbirds until we have more crows. Saffron Blaze (talk) 21:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Exactly. Most German and other Central propoganda we have is of a very low resolution (the German archives gave us fairly small files, not like what is accessible through the LOC). Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:58, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Availability has little to do with it. We often oppose things not because something better is available, but because something better *could be* available. So saying we have lots of stuff in LOC is absolutely no excuse for systemic bias. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 22:11, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Availability does indeed have much to do with it. I find it odd you would argue otherwise. If the LOC gives Wiki hundreds of high quality images with good EV they should be judged on their own merit not predicated on the fact that the German Archives (or any other agency) didn't do the same. If they had I suspect we'd see more of them getting nominated. I'd love to see more German and Russian ones but if they aren't available I am not going to penalise the ones that do get nominated. Moreover, I am not convinced something better *could be* available actually applies to these particular posters. Saffron Blaze (talk) 22:23, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• You should do more research before lunging into hyperbolic claims. Bundesarchiv has nothing to do with it as for all we know they have no appropriate images. Nor is LOC our only source for Allied images, so please stop implying this. Contentedness with having the victors write history is simply not an acceptable position for an encyclopedia. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 22:31, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• The subject this has the most EV in is a decisively Allied one. I'd love a good quality Central poster; if I find one I'll be sure to nominate it. I just don't think we should penalise this one because we have many other propaganda posters. Would we say "too much da Vinci" if someone nominated another da Vinci work (or Goya, since that's what I've been digging up recently) Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes, actually, you have been nominating too much Goya and Whistler recently, and I stopped just short of making this a topic of conversation on the talk page. You're dragging this discussion into off topic territory, however. I'm deliberately making note of this. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 23:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Meh, my recent painting nomination wasn't even Spanish. Alright, back to content creation. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• PLW, my premise is simply that more good quality Allied posters seem more readily availble than those of the Central Powers. Their sources or lack thereof are irrelevant to the discussion and I wasn't implying anything other than offering an example. If in your extensive research there is indeed high quality posters then they can be brought forward for nomination. It might help us avoid further hyperbolic statements like *Victors write history*. Saffron Blaze (talk) 23:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• No hyperbole on my part - see e.g. Philosophy of history#Historical accounts of writing history. I don't remotely understand how you can place the burden of providing materials on the occupied nation itself. The bottom line is you can't expect to make a good encyclopedia only from materials that conveniently drop into your lap, you have to put some actual effort into it. This may involve finding materials that aren't in the LoC. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 23:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Good golly, you actually felt the need to lecture me. Look, I am not placing a burden on anyone. It should be readily apparent to you that people contribute what interests them. As such this encylopedia is wholly dependent on what drops in its lap. It may not be ideal but it is what we have to work with so make the most of it. When a source comes forward with hundreds of Central Powers propaganda posters I hope you'll be here to ensure we don't go too apeshit over it. I suggest you go look for them because I will be too busy taking pretty little pictures of old churches and forcing an Anglican agenda on this hapless encylopedia. Saffron Blaze (talk) 01:24, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Forcing an Anglican agenda? With all the British editors here, I hardly think that's necessary... Besides, I like the pictures of churches I see here. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:34, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I can assure you my tongue was firmly planted in my cheek :) I am neither Anglican nor British. Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:36, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support edit Good reproduction and good EV. This picture is used in several places by WP and passes the criteria, so it deserves FP status. PLW, if you want to complain about our Anglican cabal, go find several of the high-rez, good quality Central posters, bring them here, and let us promote them. If we shoot them down because they're from the Central powers, then you can complain about systemic bias. Clegs (talk) 08:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Per nom. PLW confuses NPOV with systemic bias. JJ Harrison (talk) 22:32, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • You raise a good point. How can we keep things NPOV, then? Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 09:15, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Other images would be good. However, the article caption starts with 'American propaganda poster depicting ...'. This largely takes care of the NPOV problem - the reader is made aware that the image is not a neutral depiction. JJ Harrison (talk) 22:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. I don't get the systemic bias charge. We feature the good pictures that are available. We can't feature what we don't have, and it's not a zero-sum game: featuring any one image does not make it less likely that another image with a different subject will be featured. Chick Bowen 05:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The problem is that we have 11 FPs of Allied propaganda already. We have absolutely none, zilch, zero for the Central Powers. If this doesn't strike you as a huge imbalance, I don't know what will. We're not talking about butterflies, mind you - we're talking about propaganda. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 09:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • I spent about 30 minutes earlier today looking for high quality Soviet Posters. I saw one or two, but they were not definitely free. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's nice, but the Soviets were Allied. Going off topic again... Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 13:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support we run into the WP:FS issue here. What happens when there is a high quality file that we have several of the same time of? Since the imbalence isn't that high, I will go with a support. --Guerillero | My Talk 14:15, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit okay? Makeemlighter (talk) 01:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm fine with it, and I count two preferences for the edit. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Fine by me --Guerillero | My Talk 14:47, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Your Liberty Bond will help stop this Crisco restoration and colours.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 16:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

American Gothic

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 3 Apr 2012 at 00:37:46 (UTC)

Reason

Iconic work in high resolution, nice and free

Articles in which this image appears

American Gothic, Grant Wood, +8

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings

Creator

Grant Wood

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:37, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Great stuff. Would have loved to see even more detail. Saffron Blaze (talk) 01:59, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Question: Why is there a white border around three sides, but not the right side? Clegs (talk) 08:59, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I opened it in GIMP and could not see a border. There is some cracking around the edges, though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:22, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per nom. Brandmeister^talk 11:12, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support e^xtra999 (talk) 13:44, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I wanna party with these two! --Hadseys (talk) 15:22, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- as per Hadseys :) Jkadavoor (talk) 05:49, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Agree with Saffron Blaze. Colin°^Talk 22:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• SupportThey look straight out of a zombie horror.[[User talk:ayanosh|T]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/ayanosh|M]] (talk) 18:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)ayanosh[reply]

Promoted File:Grant DeVolson Wood - American Gothic.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 15:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Zoe Lyons

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 3 Apr 2012 at 13:04:37 (UTC)

Reason

Like the Chris Martin image below, this photo of notable comedian Zoe Lyons has been donated by photographer Steve Ullathorne. It is of high quality and represents her anarchic sense of humour quite well.

Articles in which this image appears

Zoe Lyons (lead image)

FP category for this image

People/Entertainment

Creator

Steve Ullathorne

• Support as nominator --A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 13:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Pure awesome, love the pose (made me LOL). Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Not exactly flattering! But that's not the point. Great to get the full-resolution original. Colin°^Talk 16:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. I've updated the author information. From what I know of the subject, this fits completely! J Milburn (talk) 21:24, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. She's got creepy two-tone eyes just like I do! Clegs (talk) 12:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- A portrait image of a comedian couldn't have been better. Sanyambahga (talk) 21:44, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Over-the-top enthusiastically support Best free image of a living person nominated here yet. Daniel Case (talk) 01:19, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• SupportMost amusing picture around.[[User talk:ayanosh|T]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/ayanosh|M]] (talk) 18:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)ayanosh[reply]
• Support funny lady Alborzagros (talk) 07:16, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support edit Great pic. I've made a crop which I think improves the composition. The crop now obeys the rule of thirds vertically (on the open eye), and it gives equal space to the left and right of the arms. --99of9 (talk) 07:52, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Zoe Lyons Cigar Wink High Res.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 15:26, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• If anyone else feels strongly about the crop, comment here and if there are enough voices, I'll swap them over. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 16:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Martin

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 3 Apr 2012 at 12:58:08 (UTC)

Reason

This high-quality, professional image has kindly been donated to the Wikimedia Foundation by photographer Steve Ullathorne. The photo clearly indentifies Chris Martin (no, not that one), and has been released through the OTRS.

Articles in which this image appears

Chris Martin (comedian) (lead image)

FP category for this image

People/Entertainment

Creator

Steve Ullathorne

• Support as nominator --A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 12:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Love it. I don't mind that his hair is out of frame, comes across as more powerful. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:23, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose I don't like the tiny crop off his hair or the unbalanced crop of his arms. The background with the chairline matching his hairline is distracting. Otherwise it is a great pose and technically very good. Colin°^Talk 16:39, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Great protrait. Clegs (talk) 11:31, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose I think the asymmetry of the crop is very off-putting. JJ Harrison (talk) 12:03, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Exceedingly awkward crop. NativeForeigner ^Talk 06:53, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose crop, obviously poor. --99of9 (talk) 07:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 15:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Earth's location in the universe

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Reason

Crisp, encyclopedic, interesting, surprised it hasn't been nominated before.

Articles in which this image appears

Earth's location in the universe, Local Group, Milky Way, Observable universe, Solar System, Supercluster

FP category for this image

Space

Creator

Ras67

• Support as nominator --Hadseys (talk) 01:52, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment User:Azcolvin429 is the original creator of this image. It appears Ras67 uploaded an edited version. I wonder if this should be in png format because it's a diagram, and one that is comprised of 8 files that were all originally pngs. Matthewedwards :  Chat  04:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• It's very good though. Matthewedwards :  Chat  04:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Conditional support The word "superclusters" in "local superclusters" and perhaps "interstellar neighborhood" should be decapitalized since they aren't proper names and the word "sol" is redundant. Btw, Google Chrome dealt well with the resolution. Brandmeister^talk 10:29, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Wow. This is the most impressive diagram to come through in a while. Clegs (talk) 12:12, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per Clegs. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:05, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose The individual pictures are great but I don't think it is useful in this format. File:Earth's Location in the Universe SMALLER (JPEG).jpg has a more useful 4x2 format and a perfectly adequate size for both screen and printing up to A3 format. Using the Interactive large-image-viewer (flash-based) on my Firefox browser gives the most awful lossy JPG quality, and the non-flash one doesn't seem to work at all. I can download the full size image but it is a bugger to work with: to view the sequence, one has to pan right, but to do that reasonably, you have to reduce the size to fit the screen, which makes the ridiculously high resolution kind of pointless. If someone really is going to print poster sized images then they'll print the individual ones. I think there are better ways of presenting this kind of image. Colin°^Talk 21:05, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Update: on a different computer I'm not getting the awful JPG artefacts with the flash viewer. But the Virgo Supercluster image has banding and the other issues still apply. Colin°^Talk 22:13, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 03:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Durga Puja

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Reason

Wikimedia/Wikipedia is fortunate to have some or many good quality images; they're more Here's a chance I would not like to lose to recognise this as a good image from the world of religions. Perhaps for those who are not at all that familiar with Durga Puja: also referred to as Durgotsava , is an annual Hindu festival in South Asia-especially in Bengal-that celebrates worship and pays homage to the Hindu Goddess Durga. The gleaming idol of the deity and the supreme power makes this one a keeper, according to me.......this for me is the actual face of Kolkata, the City of Joy which never stops it for me is the city of cities and Durga Puja for me is the festivals of festivals and Maa Durga for me is the Supreme Power...well remember that God is One....irrespective of religions!!

Articles in which this image appears

Durga and Durga Puja.

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Religion and mythology

Creator

Jagadhatri

• Support as nominator --Jagadhatri(২০১২) 10:31, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Semi-Support It is a good quality image which wonderfully captures the face of the idol of Durga! But, I think you should write the description in details, where and when you took the image? --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 10:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose -- Comment first: this has not been in the article for a week, so it should not be nominated yet. Opposing reason: composition. Her headdress is cut off, as are many of her hands. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:52, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• "This one will not qualify as FI, I feel! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 10:26, 26 March 2012 (UTC)" Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:15, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose -- Low quality image with poor composition. Sanyambahga (talk) 06:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment With the articles being rather over-illustrated, I worry that some images will eventually be removed. I removed an unreferenced map from one of the articles today, and this was followed by Tito stating the same concern [2]. We don't really want to promote images in situations where they're likely to turn orphans shortly afterwards. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 17:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose-Same as Sanyambahga[[User talk:ayanosh|T]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/ayanosh|M]] (talk) 18:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)ayanosh[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 03:16, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolitan Opera House (39th St)

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Reason

High EV, I'm not really satisfied with the quality, but it just got featured on Commons.

Articles in which this image appears

Metropolitan Opera House (39th St), Metropolitan Opera, Antonio Paoli, Josef Hofmann and Thomas Beecham

FP category for this image

USA History

Creator

Unknown photographer, restored by Mmxx

• Support as nominator --  ■ MMXX  ^talk  21:20, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- I took a look at this at Commons but didn't weigh in. Nice image. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• There's something quite odd about it. The blacks in the aisles are so black, and there's maybe some lens distortion too: the people next to the aisles look like paper cutouts. This is a newspaper shot and it probably was airbushed (I mean literally, not the photoshop tool) to look better in newsprint (see this picture, particularly the eyes, for the kinds of things they used to do). EV is definitely high, as this is maybe the most important demolished theater in New York, and, though I seem to have a picture of the stage in my own collection, I haven't seen too many of the house (there are a few non-free ones on the internet, though, like this, so they exist). I'm torn. Chick Bowen 05:31, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Support The slightly off centre photographer position makes it feel a bit odd. JJ Harrison (talk) 12:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support classic FP to me. Tomer T (talk) 22:01, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Chick Bowen. I agonized over this one. I know it's non-repeatable and has very high EV, but it's so highly edited and poorly exposed that I can't in good conscience support. Clegs (talk) 18:17, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:23, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Raphael Matos

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Reason

Well-composed, natural, high-resolution photo of Raphael Matos wearing his racing gear and with an appropriate back-drop for the subject.

Articles in which this image appears

Raphael Matos

FP category for this image

People/Sport

Creator

myself, User:nave.notnilc

• Support as nominator --Nave.notnilc (talk) 21:00, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose original -- Poor composition (team member behind him) Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:10, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support The composition is perfectly explained in the nomination statement, which one should take care to read, on repeated occasions. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 13:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Very POINT-y. I read both (note that I didn't complain about the car tires). The team member is extraneous, cut off, and distracting. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:17, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Neutral weighted towards oppose. Hands are cut off, distracting orange blob in the upper left corner. Yes, I know it's a crew member, but it still looks like a distracting orange blob. And Let's please keep our comments to the picture at hand, not how we feel about other people's actions on other recent noms. Clegs (talk) 10:21, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reviewers should consider it their obligation to read the opening statement and caption, and if they evidently do not, they should be reminded of the need to do so. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 12:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • And if the reminder is barking up the wrong tree, i.e. making the wrong assumptions? Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:46, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • If this is not relevant to the nom, it needs to find a new venue. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 07:49, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm willing to edit out the crew member in the background (I think it can be done cleanly); would that be within the 'minimal editing' bounds of the guidelines? Nave.notnilc (talk) 17:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • It looked to me like it could be done cleanly, and yes, that would easily be sufficiently minor based on previously promoted items. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 21:32, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'd certainly reconsider my vote. Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:46, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Edited to remove crew member from upper left. Nave.notnilc (talk) 04:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: The edit should generally be added separately. I'd support it, but it should follow Commons' policy. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:28, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Sorry, wasn't aware of the convention; reverted and re-uploaded as separate file. Nave.notnilc (talk) 21:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support edit 1 only Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support edit 1 only. Addresses my above concerns enough. Clegs (talk) 07:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support edit 1 only. The edit to remove the "orange blob" has been skilfully done and greatly improves the portrait. What was all that fuss about. Colin°^Talk 22:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Forced smile and awkward body pose, face in shadow. JJ Harrison (talk) 02:23, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per JJ. This is not an exceptional portrait. J Milburn (talk) 09:01, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per JJ Harrison. Sanyambahga (talk) 17:59, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:25, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Andersonville Prison

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Reason

High resolution, good quality, valuable depiction of the subject

Articles in which this image appears

Andersonville National Historic Site, National Register of Historic Places listings in Sumter County, Georgia, Prisoner-of-war camp

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/War

Creator

John L. Ransom, restored by Jujutacular

• Support as nominator --Jujutacular (talk) 03:06, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Striking. I'd copy the numbers to the image description page and maybe overlay the information on the map in the article, like our diagram of the Su25 Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:02, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Added labels to the image description page, overlayed numbers on image. Jujutacular (talk) 16:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Beautiful. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support -- Jkadavoor (talk) 05:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support   ■ MMXX  ^talk  16:25, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Tomer T (talk) 10:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Andersonville Prison.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 10:19, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gimingham Church

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Reason

Think it looks good

Articles in which this image appears

Gimingham

FP category for this image

Places

Creator

Tomtomn00

• Support as nominator --~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:43, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose The tree obscures the top of the church and the combination of the tree and shadow is very distracting. Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 16:48, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose. I have other images on my camera, but mostly not high-resolution. ~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 16:52, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong oppose. I would note technical issues but this doesn't even meet the minimum resolution standard as it's only 640px along its longer axis (Minimum is 1000px; see FP criterion #2.). Daniel Case (talk) 19:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy close only 640px, perspective projection distortion, tree obstruction. Sanyambahga (talk) 20:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy close and oppose per above. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 14:04, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy close. No possibility of passing. Makeemlighter (talk) 14:04, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Allied naval operations off Japan

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Reason

SVG format; complicated information that is not easily replicated in text form; clear presentation; standard colours; very informative to the reader; US military source.

Articles in which this image appears

Air raids on Japan, Allied naval bombardments of Japan during World War II (newly replaced raster version [latter only])

FP category for this image

Diagrams, drawings, and maps

Creator

Grandiose

• Support as nominator --Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment -- Very nice. You have a typo on the second lowest red ship though (missing a "y" in July) Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment -- Just up by Hokkaido, 'Tomaxomai' should be 'Tomakomai', 'Uckiura' should be 'Uchiura', and 'Haxodate' should be 'Hakodate'. There might be a few more too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.92.107.191 (talk) 02:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Note Grandiose, I've left some comments on your talk page so they don't bloat the nomination. Matthewedwards :  Chat  06:14, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could I possibly call a Pause for a couple of hours whilst I take these points on board? Thanks. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:01, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit 1 now uploaded. (Some of the original labels were very hard to read; if I've made any more transcription errors, I will not hesitate to correct them. However, the IP's ones were the actually the ones I was most unsure of.) Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:48, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I'd suggest giving the city names a quick Google search (or Wikipedia search) to check for possible transcription errors. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:58, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did for the dozen or so I thought I'd got wrong - the ones pointed out were next in line. I don't have the few hours doing all of them would take. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 13:13, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support edit 1 I made a couple of minor edits to the shading, aquatic typeface etc. I also smoothed out the latitude lines that I mentioned on your talk page (forgive me for being presumptuous but I assumed you didn't understand what I was talking about there). Hope that's okay. Matthewedwards :  Chat  18:06, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support edit 1 This is an excellent map, and a big improvement on the US military original. I'm very grateful for Grandiose developing this for the Air raids on Japan article (which is currently at FAC). My only comment is that 'Sasebp' on Kyushu should be 'Sasebo' Nick-D (talk) 23:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now corrected. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment There is no name on the city which the southernmost black arrow points to. Can this be fixed? Katalysator (talk) 12:18, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 14:24, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support edit 1 Great effort. Good looking and useful. Katalysator (talk) 16:05, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 20:44, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• 4 out of 5 required. Worth renominating. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 20:44, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Banner Saga screenshot

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Reason

Something completely different this time: a freely licensed, fairly high quality screenshot of a video game. I like the artistic style, and the EV is high as it shows us the game's combat system

Articles in which this image appears

The Banner Saga, Turn-based strategy

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Entertainment

Creator

Stoic Studio

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:37, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Not seeing it - the fact that it's turn-based is not at all evident in the screenshot, and there is little evidence of a "combat system". Also seems to be vaporware so far - who knows if this will ever be finished and distributed? For all we know, the article was written solely to justify the screenshots (presumably stuck in OTRS for three days), and to top things off, the screenshots haven't even been in the article for seven days! Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 14:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose I have no idea what is going on in the image. JJ Harrison (talk) 03:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Updated description. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:56, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. I am intrigued by the visual style and I wish this new, indie studio well—but I am reluctant to Feature content related to game software so soon after its public announcement, still several months from its anticipated release (See WP:CRYSTALBALL, Duke Nukem Forever) and potentially subject to substantial change or delay. For an illustration of a combat system, the dark knights aren't really doing very much, with their weapons held low and a lack of...engagement between the melee characters; is this likely to accurately represent the appearance of the final product, or is this an artifact of the game's early stage of development? Is the mage's spell about to do something really exciting in the next few seconds? TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:03, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Don't see the encyclopedic value... Once the game is released, there is probably going to be 1,000 videos on YouTube in the first week, and an innumerable number of screenshots online. This one is not anymore significant then any other. Dusty777 16:57, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sintel

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Reason

Notable film, decisively free, full version available, as high resolution as possible with our size limits

Articles in which this image appears

Sintel

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Entertainment

Creator

Blender Foundation

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- For the quality and the efforts behind the project. Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:12, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose I'm pretty sure this is covered by WP:NOT. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 14:43, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Which part?

"Not promotion" -- Entire project was CC from the get go, not OTRS. Interested parties can download a higher quality version from the official website and share it for free; we are not on the receiving end of promotion.

"collections of photographs or media files" -- We have an article, with several RS backing it up. This would do better in the "plot" section, but it would clash with the infobox on low-resolution monitors.

Can't think of anything else that would remotely fit. "Summary-only descriptions of works"? We have design and reception info. "Journalism", "Who's who", "a diary", "Internet guides", "Academic language." "Genealogical entries." etc.? Out of left field, no relevance to this media file. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:04, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• First of all, license has nothing to do with intention. Just because something has the same license we do, doesn't mean we, as an NPOV encyclopedia, have a reason to promote it. Secondly, WP is neither a movie streaming site nor the Oscars, so what is this doing here? Thirdly, you make the very good point that Wikipedia does not offer the best viewing experience for this, so we're not even doing the users a favour. Much better to link to offsite hosting that's geared towards displaying such media. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 18:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:NOT does not cover streaming or "the Oscars", so policy-wise this is acceptable. For encyclopedic value, we have the plot of the film (which is a key part to articles on works of fiction). For the quality of the video, there are links to higher quality video feeds from the file. We are limited by the software limitations, and should not, for example in a nomination for File:Van Gogh - Starry Night - Google Art Project.jpg, say "Oppose, higher resolution versions available". We should work within the file size limits and not expect something the software doesn't support.

Regarding "Promotionalness", how old would a film have to be before we considered featuring it not promotional? Fifty years? 100? Do genres count, say a documentary is less promotional than a feature film? If so, that's biased. If a high quality version of A Free Ride could be found, should it be promoted, or would we be giving the filmmaker free advertising? If you are worried about any "advertising" vibes, we could just not show the file on the main page. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose I agree with PLW2 that this fails WP:NOT in my opinion (particularly WP:NOTREPOSITORY). I may try an AfD but the bar for deletion is low and it is also on Commons, which takes months to delete things had has an even lower bar than WP. So this is some barely notably fantasy story, but let's say it was An Inconvenient Truth and that got released under an appropriate licence? It would be deleted before you could blink. Our articles should be about a subject, not be the subject. Images and other media should be selected to educate the reader about the subject, not require them to view the whole thing. I have no problem with the article linking to the full and best-quality video, hosted elsewhere. Colin°^Talk 07:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Let's remember Commons is not Wikipedia and this file is more than welcome there and should be linked to both the Blender Foundation and Sintel articles. Saffron Blaze (talk) 09:56, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Not sure what level of linking you had in mind, but it's pretty clear that Blender Foundation output would be starting to get pretty crowded by now - three films and a video game that exists in two major variants, presumably with trailers - you'll eventually hit a limit in terms of acceptable direct linking from the Blender Foundation article. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 11:05, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware that WP was bound by such limits. When an article section gets too big a dedicated article would be created or a category on Commons with all the relevant media files could be used. This is getting ahead of ourselves though. The question is whether this is suitable content for a Wikipedia article. The material is within scope on Commons and useful for highlighting what Blender can do. Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:13, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I agree Commons has differnet rules. It quite clearly isn't encyclopaedic content, which as I said is about as subject rather than being a subject. On Commons, the requirement is that media be for an educational purpose, which is defined as "providing knowledge; instructional or informative". This film, in its entirity rather than merely clips, does not satisfy that requirement. It is not an educational film. The "highlighting what Blender can do" is satisifed within seconds. Colin°^Talk 13:07, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• It is not clear to me this film doesn't meet the the stadard of being encyclopaedic content. While the extent of that value is open for debate I would tend to leave that judgement to those that have interest in the film and the Blender software. The part I don't get is where you imply a short clip would be sufficient. What purpose would supplying a short clip achieve when the full file is readily available? ...other than restricting the user's choice in the matter. Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• The same reason that a TV program about a film shows clips of the film. Or an academic book about a novel doesn't contain the entire text of the novel. We explicitly don't allow this for text. For example, one doesn't find the entire text of Pride and Prejudice in the encyclopaedia article (but we do link to the WikiSource and a number of other externally hosted alternatives). The main reason WP:NOTREPOSITORY only says "entire books" and not "entire books, albums or films" is that the latter have been very unlikely to be freely licensed so this hasn't been a problem. Perhaps it is time that was made clearer. Colin°^Talk 15:09, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Don't get the analogy to books. It's not as if the content of a movie is forced on a page as it would be with the text of a book. Are you saying that emedding a link to the full text of the book is wrong? If so then I suppose embedding a link to the full content of a video file would be wrong too. Saffron Blaze (talk) 15:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• The content of the movie is on the page. That's not a link to the movie, it is the movie (albeit only streamed when you press the play button). The File:Sintel movie 720x306.ogv is on Wikipedia's servers (copied from Commons). Colin°^Talk 18:11, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I think there is more than a semantic difference between the two conditions of having an orginal source text document in an article and the option of pressing a button (or clicking a link) to retrieve a media file. This difference should allow for handling of the material differently as well. I will say that there seems little merit in having the actual file on WP and Commons. Saffron Blaze (talk) 18:39, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sintel movie 720x306.ogv. Colin°^Talk 18:45, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Turns out that Commons can't delete the movie because Wikipedia uses it. And Wikipedian's are using it because Commons has it: if the movie has an article, someone will want to embed the whole thing just because they can. So it doesn't really matter that the movie has no educational purpose. If Commons did not exist, I think WP:NOT would disallow it to be held by WP. But you can't delete media on WP that is also held by Commons. So I still think it can't pass as a WP featured picture because it breaks policy. Colin°^Talk 12:26, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. This comes back to the question of whether the standard for notability for featured pictures is higher than for articles. To me, it has always seemed clear that it must be, particularly when an individual artwork is being proposed. Among paintings, for example, we have generally promoted frequently discussed paintings by major artists; even if a high-resolution reproduction existed for a public-domain or otherwise free painting by an amateur or non-notable painter, we would not be inclined to feature it unless it represented something of interest in itself. In this case, the film itself is not terribly important or valuable, nor does it illustrate the software or the creator better than other available images. So it does not represent Wikipedia's best work. Chick Bowen 19:17, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• What about an AfD on WP? The movie has not won any awards, no notable people were in on its creation--it has no notability. Clegs (talk) 09:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the article topic is just notable enough: a few 3D magazines both online and print have covered it. There's an interview on CreativeCommons. Very much special-interest only. Technically, this movie doesn't "illustrate" anything because it is the thing. That, IMO, separates it from being an encyclopaedic picture/video, or being educational (any more than anything is educational about itself by being merely existing). It is out of scope. Unfortunately we have some circular logic going on that prevents its deletion. Colin°^Talk 10:16, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Andersonville survivor

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Reason

High resolution scan, decent quality for the era, restored

Articles in which this image appears

Andersonville National Historic Site, Prisoner of war, American Civil War

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/War

Creator

Unknown, restored by Jujutacular

• Support as nominator --Jujutacular (talk) 03:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support -- heart wrenching, but I'm not big on how blurry the image is. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:59, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Sharp at eligible size. Can't ask more of 1865. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 13:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Highly thought-provoking image. Sanyambahga (talk) 21:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- for it's value Jkadavoor (talk) 05:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Tomer T (talk) 18:15, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support for strong historic value. Daniel Case (talk) 01:17, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. It's a compelling subject, but a terrible photograph. Kaldari (talk) 04:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support: irreplaceable on quality, which is fair, from 1865. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support: staggering, nice and historical.Alborzagros (talk) 07:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Prisoner of war, from Belle Isle, Richmond, at the U.S. General Hospital, Div. 1, Annapolis.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Carina Nebula

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 14 Apr 2012 at 13:37:35 (UTC)

Reason

Impressive photo of high resolution of Carina Nebula

Articles in which this image appears

Carina Nebula

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Astronomy

Creator

NASA, ESA, N. Smith (University of California, Berkeley), and The Hubble Heritage Team (STScI/AURA)

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 13:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• What makes the crop have higher EV than File:Eta Carinae Nebula 1.jpg (already an FP?) Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I withdraw this nomination. I wasn't aware of the other FP. Tomer T (talk) 14:42, 5 April 2012 (UTC) Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Withdrawn by nominator. Makeemlighter (talk) 00:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Averbode Abbey

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 6 Apr 2012 at 10:57:56 (UTC)

Reason

Nice composition, good sharpness and high EV panorama

Articles in which this image appears

Averbode Abbey

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama

Creator

JH-man

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 10:57, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Quite nice, good angle. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 07:23, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jujutacular (talk) 21:12, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Surprisingly good for a compact camera. Colin°^Talk 22:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support in power of 2. Alborzagros (talk) 07:11, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Averbode abbey - panorama.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 12:59, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

German WWI war bond poster

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 7 Apr 2012 at 07:26:34 (UTC)

Reason

High quality and underrepresented area

Articles in which this image appears

War bond, Lucian Bernhard

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/World War I

Creator

Lucian Bernhard, restored by Bellhalla

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:26, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Good quality reproduction. Was briefly tempted to Oppose; we don't need German propaganda here, but it's not April Fools and I don't feel like getting lynched. Clegs (talk) 08:06, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oooh... Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Interesting. Jkadavoor (talk) 08:48, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, indeed interesting from impartial historical point of view. Brandmeister^talk 18:54, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Per nom Dusty777 16:49, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support e^xtra999 (talk) 02:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:So hilft dein Geld.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 13:05, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Burrow Mump

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 16 Apr 2012 at 09:42:11 (UTC)

Reason

Angle has high EV in depicting St Michael's Church in the article Burrow Mump, quality is good, a featured picture at commons

Articles in which this image appears

Burrow Mump

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture

Creator

Julia W

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 09:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak oppose Tilt and not the best angle (a bit more of clockwise rotation would be better). Brandmeister^talk 10:20, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I tried to make an edit. Tomer T (talk) 11:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Please withdraw. Sorry, I don't think this is good enough to be an FP. And it was taken several years ago with a poor compact camera and was only uploaded for its encyclopaedic value. Julia\^talk 11:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it's good enough, but if you want, I withdraw. Tomer T (talk) 11:56, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, please, and I'm very sorry. I appreciate the nomination, but also don't want to suffer through all the opposes to come! Thank you. :) Julia\^talk 12:04, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Julia\^talk 15:00, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Withdrawn Julia\^talk 15:00, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arlington Row, the Cotswolds.

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 7 Apr 2012 at 17:26:38 (UTC)

Reason

A quality image of one of the Cotswolds' iconic places.

Articles in which this image appears

Bibury

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture

Creator

Saffron Blaze

• Support as nominator --Saffron Blaze (talk) 17:26, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Question is the one facing the camera also part of the row? Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to the National Trust it is. Saffron Blaze (talk) 07:58, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • In that case, Support. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:31, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Very quaint and beautiful. I had to laugh: the first thing I say when I zoomed in on these 14th century houses was.... a satellite dish. Clegs (talk) 07:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. I am a big fan of your photography! J Milburn (talk) 15:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Lovely. But I'd be very tempted to take a clone tool to that satellite dish! Colin°^Talk 22:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was, very much so, but didn't want to be deceptive! Saffron Blaze (talk) 23:42, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support e^xtra999 (talk) 02:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 04:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Very nice!   ■ MMXX  ^talk  11:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, beautiful --Z 20:08, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, exceptional and wonderfulAlborzagros (talk) 07:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose: The composition is poor. No sky, foreground chimneys chopped off, and overall a tight, awkward cropped view of what is meant to be a "row" but is barely visible here. A quick google images search demonstrates that there are much better options for composition, like this one: [3]. Julia\^talk 20:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose: Google images search indeed shows sunnier better composed images of the same row. Sanyambahga (talk) 16:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - picturesque and does a nice job of illustrating the subject. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Arlington Row Bibury.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 17:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DeWitt Clinton

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 8 Apr 2012 at 00:53:55 (UTC)

Reason

Fairly high resolution, very sharp, great depiction of a notable subject

Articles in which this image appears

DeWitt Clinton +2

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political

Creator

Rembrandt Peale

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Supprt per nom. Clegs (talk) 07:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Supprt ace Alborzagros (talk) 07:09, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I find it a-Peale-ing. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support upstateNYer 01:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- very, very nice. i can see the individual brush strokes. piranha (talk) 07:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Solid quality and good ev. Spencer^T♦C 17:50, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:DeWitt Clinton by Rembrandt Peale.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Norwich Cathedral

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 8 Apr 2012 at 20:16:29 (UTC)

Reason

Quite good quality, unpixelated, large.

Articles in which this image appears

Norwich Cathedral, Cathedral

FP category for this image

Places

Creator

Tomtomn00

• Support as nominator --~ ⇒TomTomN00 @ 20:16, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose, due primarily to the distracting shadow line, and the noise and blurriness at higher resolution. Daniel Case (talk) 22:14, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. The picture has not been in the article for the required one week, hence the nomination should be suspended. I am, however, afraid that this picture is not of FP standards, mainly due to reasons already mentioned by Daniel. O.J. (talk) 22:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Daniel. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per all. Saffron Blaze (talk)
• Oppose per Daniel e^xtra999 (talk) 02:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per all above --Z 20:07, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose bad shade. Alborzagros (talk) 07:01, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Perspective projection distortion. Sanyambahga (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 14:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Line-out (rugby union)

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 8 Apr 2012 at 16:22:16 (UTC)

Reason

Nice sport shot with good EV.

Articles in which this image appears

Line-out (rugby union)

FP category for this image

Sport

Creator

PierreSelim

• Support as nominator --  ■ MMXX  ^talk  16:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Some good sports photography! A little bit noisy, but quite high resolution. Jujutacular (talk) 20:59, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- It got me to read the article. Good image, a little noisy though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:21, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support as nominator in Commons. Tomer T (talk) 10:45, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- It shouts through the noise that this is rugby. Iconic. Saffron Blaze (talk) 15:44, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 04:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support good-lookingAlborzagros (talk) 07:06, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Very Weak Support on EV grounds. The slight lack in quality is made up for by the rareness of great quality sports shots. This must be a strange line-out play. Where is white's back pod? Both sides should be matching numbers. Why are there two players from white in front of the pods? On an unrelated note, I have the same rugby ball sitting right beside me. --Guerillero | My Talk 02:23, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:ST vs LOU - 21.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 18:32, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Charles III of Spain

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 9 Apr 2012 at 04:15:56 (UTC)

Reason

High quality, nice artwork, notable person

Articles in which this image appears

Charles III of Spain (lede image)

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Royalty

Creator

Anton Raphael Mengs

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Odd composition but a wonderful painting nonetheless. Seems to have captured his reported character quite well too. Saffron Blaze (talk) 13:06, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support   ■ MMXX  ^talk  11:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- George Chernilevsky ^talk 05:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- excellent quality, and informative value. piranha (talk) 08:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support the painting, not the face. (Oooh, low blow? Sorry.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Charles III of Spain high resolution.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:51, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Emily Osment

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 9 Apr 2012 at 15:30:17 (UTC)

Reason

High resolution, sharp and free under cc-by license, already a FP on Commons

Articles in which this image appears

Emily Osment, Emily Osment discography

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment

Creator

Mikey Hennessy

• Support as nominator --Morning Sunshine (talk) 15:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Tomer T (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support as I put that in the article (then forgot about it :-/ ) Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:45, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support [[User talk:ayanosh|T]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/ayanosh|M]] (talk) 18:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)ayanosh[reply]
• Support. Love the way the blurred lights offset the tight detail on the body ... the shadows of her eyelashes and the sweat and/or sparkle on her skin. Great photo of a singer in action. Daniel Case (talk) 04:43, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Sorry to be a negative voice, but I don't think the composition is as good as it could be, and I'm not certain that the EV is super-high; it doesn't seem to give the best impression of what she looks like, and, as far as I can tell from the article, she's more of an actress than a singer. I do normally like portraits, but I don't think this is quite up to scratch. J Milburn (talk) 13:37, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose: We're generally much too harsh on concert photography, and I would like to see more of it promoted. The conditions are often such that some noise and softness are practically unavoidable, and having microphones and instruments a little in the way ought to be forgivable, I think. In this case, though, as a portrait, we should be able to see her eyes. Julia\^talk 20:25, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Agree with Julia W, the focus appears to be on her right shoulder, not her face. A nice portrait but not well executed. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 06:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Poor composition, focus issues. Clegs (talk) 10:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose: per J Milburn. Sanyambahga (talk) 16:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 15:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perth Skyline

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 10 Apr 2012 at 02:52:18 (UTC)

Reason

High quality dusk panorama showing all the buildings in the Perth CBD.

Articles in which this image appears

Perth, Western Australia

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama

Creator

JJ Harrison

• Support as nominator --JJ Harrison (talk) 02:52, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support aesthetic, sharp, good timing and certainly has EV. A delight to explore. - Blieusong (talk) 15:20, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per above. Tomer T (talk) 17:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Support. Great detail, no real complaints about anything except the exposure. JJ, I saw you were recently railing against accusations of overexposure but I think this one is a little bright. It's not an issue of blown highlights, it's just that it was clearly taken near dusk but it looks a bit peculiarly bright given that time of day. I know as photographers, particularly encyclopaedic photographers, we choose the camera settings that best demonstrates the subject in all its detail, but I think that where possible we also have a duty to show it as it appears to the eye (unless detail is significantly lost by such an exposure). Feel free to convince me otherwise by the way, you were there, I'm just going by experience and gut feeling. :) Ðiliff «» (Talk) 14:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I forgot to change my camera's clock over there. This panorama was taken 7 minutes after the official sunset time (on average, it took a bit of time to shoot), so still relatively light conditions. The mostly pink building (it actually changes colour continuously) behind the Swan Bells hadn't even turned it's lights on when I started stitching this panorama. JJ Harrison (talk) 09:39, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. I agree with Dliff that the exposure looks a little bright, but it's not blown out and this is one of the best cityscapes I've seen in a long time. Clegs (talk) 10:06, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Incredible! This is probably the best Cityscape I have seen. Dusty777 17:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per Clegs.   ■ MMXX  ^talk  12:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support --Alchemist-hp (talk) 14:01, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support very impressive--Morning Sunshine (talk) 03:53, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Perth CBD from Mill Point.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Red-necked Avocet

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 10 Apr 2012 at 02:55:45 (UTC)

Reason

High quality flight image of this attractive species.

Articles in which this image appears

Red-necked Avocet

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds

Creator

JJ Harrison

• Support as nominator --JJ Harrison (talk) 02:55, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Purdy. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:47, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support   ■ MMXX  ^talk  11:30, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. J Milburn (talk) 19:43, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support --Z 20:10, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 05:48, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support incredible . Alborzagros (talk) 06:54, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support You win! Kaldari (talk) 05:08, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Very impressive --99of9 (talk) 07:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Excellent. --ELEKHH^T 07:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Amazing! Dusty777 17:38, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support WOW --Morning Sunshine (talk) 03:52, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Recurvirostra novaehollandiae in flight - Lake Joondalup.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:36, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brahma kamal

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 10 Apr 2012 at 17:43:07 (UTC)

Reason

I think it meets all the criteria for a FP.it is of high standard and has sufficently large resolution.It is highly detailed and is under free license.Adds value to the brahma kamal article.Its description is complete and is not manipulated.Also its verifiable.

Articles in which this image appears

Saussurea obvallata, Uttarakhand, List of Indian state flowers

FP category for this image

Plants

Creator

Nilesh Gonsalves

• Support as nominator --[[User talk:ayanosh|T]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/ayanosh|M]] (talk) 17:43, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Sorry, but this really is not up to the standard of flower FPs. Compare it to others in the category. Further, there seems to be something going on with the image's orientation, but that may just be me. J Milburn (talk) 19:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Sorry, composition and lighting could be better.  :- ) DCS 20:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose, sorry. I actually really like the composition - it makes a refreshing change from "flower in a field". But technically it's just not up to it - it's not sharp, it has too much noise, and there's colour-fringing and jpeg compression artifacts. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:32, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose sorry, per all above. --Z 02:15, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose --Morning Sunshine (talk) 15:12, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Allied naval operations off Japan (2)

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 14 Apr 2012 at 21:09:44 (UTC)

Reason

Previous nomination threw up a few small things which have been fixed. As before: SVG format; complicated information that is not easily replicated in text form; clear presentation; standard colours; very informative to the reader; US military source. The consensus edit is presented here.

Articles in which this image appears

Air raids on Japan, Allied naval bombardments of Japan during World War II (just replaced the previous FPC file with the consensus edit)

FP category for this image

Diagrams, drawings, and maps

Creator

Grandiose

• Support as nominator --Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per previous nomination Nick-D (talk) 22:58, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Very Weak Oppose. I stayed out of this last time because I don't really have a strong opinion either way. However, given another go-round so soon, here's my thought: It doesn't grab me visually and doesn't have the over-the-top EV to offset that. If it were to provide more information than just "plane strike" and 'surface bombardment" (for example, what ships were involved) I might go for it. Also concerned with scale. Are the bars the actual fleet location at the time of bombardment? They're 35-40 miles off-shore, and the only ships that had that sort of range were the big battleships. Were the smaller ships not involved? Clegs (talk) 12:54, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid I don't know, perhaps Nick does, but it's not clear. It's a US military map, if it's only a selection of the attacks it would have been odd to have omitted it – and certainly not without reason.

Insofar as others might wish to take this into account, the appropriate criteria for this sort of fault are: 3.2 It illustrates the subject in a compelling way, making the viewer want to know more... diagrams and other illustrations are clear and informative., 3.3 A featured picture is not always required to be aesthetically pleasing; it might be shocking, impressive, or just highly informative. and 5.2 A picture's encyclopedic value (referred to as "EV") is given priority over its artistic value.. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 13:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The locations of the ships isn't accurate; the bombardments were conducted within visual range of the Japanese coast and the carriers were generally a bit further offshore. However, depicting this accurately would mean that the bombarding ships would be placed almost on the coastline (thus obscuring the names of the cities they attacked) and there would be long lines all over the place showing the (approximate) routes taken by the carrier aircraft. As such, the placement used by the original US military map maker seems a good compromise. Nick-D (talk) 23:37, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Question: Is it possible to rotate the map so that the latitude lines are roughly horizontal (now they are quite angled with the right side being much higher)? Spencer^T♦C 17:49, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't think rotating it would be a good idea, it would only serve to make it a larger image with more empty space. -RunningOnBrains^(talk) 19:39, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose it's very detailed and clear at high resolution, but at thumbnail resolution you really can't see anything. I would like it better if the legend were larger, and maybe the names of the islands as well, and so you could at least see a rough summary of the image at thumbnail resolution. Otherwise its encyclopedic value suffers. -RunningOnBrains^(talk) 19:39, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, that sits oddly with current practice. Obviously I'm careful of doing so, but images like this FP (at 320px) and this (also 320px) don't render usefully at thumbnail size: we expect people to click through. The criteria don't really seem to address it, which may also lean towards not considering it. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:04, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose. It seems like there is a lot of information that could be in this figure. Per Clegs, the identities of the major ships (or at least the task groups) would add significant value. Some of this sort of information is already hinted at; for example, on 28 July there are three carrier plane strikes shown, originating from two adjacent icons—the reader is left to suspect or guess that this could represent two separate carriers/groups operating in the same waters (one of which launched two sorties), but we really don't know for sure. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:43, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn pending consideration of the merits and feasibility of additional information. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC) Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Withdrawn by nominator. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

E-2C Hawkeye

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 10 Apr 2012 at 07:38:01 (UTC)

Reason

Very impressive with good quality and high encyclopedic value for Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye

Articles in which this image appears

Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Air

Creator

U.S. Navy photo by Lt. j.g. Andrew Leatherwood

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 07:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Nice Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. JJ Harrison (talk) 12:09, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• comment the fact that the wingtip of the more distant plane ends at the edge of the hull of the closer plane is unfortunate.©Geni 01:23, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose The overlap between the planes, and the plane and the mountain distract from a clear reading of the plane. --ELEKHH^T 07:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Elekhh: this is a nice photo, but the EV is very limited. Note that these kind of aircraft almost always operate by themselves at high altitude, so it doesn't depict the aircraft doing anything other than taking part in a staged PR photo shoot (US military aircraft based in Japan seem to be routinely photographed in front of Mount Fuji). Nick-D (talk) 12:14, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Elekhh.   ■ MMXX  ^talk  12:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per above --Morning Sunshine (talk) 03:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Elekhh. Sanyambahga (talk) 17:18, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 16:00, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Emperor Dragonfly

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 8 Apr 2012 at 08:42:14 (UTC)

Reason

Highly detailed image of this attractive dragonfly.

Articles in which this image appears

Emperor (Dragonfly)

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects

Creator

Quartl

• Support as nominator --Quartl (talk) 08:42, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Everything about this is just wonderful. Saffron Blaze (talk) 08:57, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per Saffron. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:20, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Subject is nice and crisp; background is not distracting; good color; excellent wing detail. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:34, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Great. Colin°^Talk 22:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support e^xtra999 (talk) 02:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 04:01, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Highly detailed[[User talk:ayanosh|T]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/ayanosh|M]] (talk) 18:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)ayanosh[reply]
• Support nice --Z 20:11, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support that's really outstanding. Alborzagros (talk) 07:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support 99of9 (talk) 02:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Despite unanimous support, this is technically ineligible because it's only used in a gallery. I'll hold off on closing for now, but it's a non-promotion unless that's dealt with. Makeemlighter (talk) 14:44, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I switched images in the article. Hope this is ok. --Quartl (talk) 17:58, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Anax imperator qtl2.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Better. Let's hope it stays there. Makeemlighter (talk) 21:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Little Malvern Priory

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Reason

Another candy by Saffron Blaze

Articles in which this image appears

Little Malvern Priory, List of English abbeys, priories and friaries serving as parish churches

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture

Creator

Saffron Blaze

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 22:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- Saffron's work is great Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:15, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- George Chernilevsky ^talk 05:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Support. Resolution not fantastic and the composition feels very tight at the bottom. I suspect the point was to eliminate distracting foreground elements but it's a shame IMO. Otherwise, nice composition as per the rest of the series of abbeys, churches, etc. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 14:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah. f/18 isn't ideal. This goes some way to explaining the lack of detail, and I assume this was cropped from a wider photo, rather than downsampled to 1667×1786px. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 14:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Looks a little snapshot-ish, the composition is rather poor, the building looks like it is leaning to the left, light artifacts throughout the picture (not that noticeable, but they do appear to be present.) Also, I am not impressed with the reason the nominator gave, on why he thinks the picture should be promoted to FP status. Dusty777 17:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • So let me give you the more obvious phrasing: High EV, impressive, good quality. Tomer T (talk) 17:38, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• You should probably put those into the reasons for nominating. Dusty777 17:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: Too soft at this somewhat low resolution; we normally expect rather more of architecture photography, in terms of sharpness and detail. (Also, there are dust spots. Should be easy to take care of before nominating.) Julia\^talk 20:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose It is a pretty picture that needs to be re-shot to do the ruined priory justice. I was surprised it was nominated here. Saffron Blaze (talk) 21:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Saffron Blaze. Sanyambahga (talk) 17:15, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak oppose - though the photo ticks most of the assessment boxes, the composition is a bit awry - it seems to be cropped to create a composition with the background, rather than focus on the building; the building looks like it is leaning; the flattened perspective is useful in many ways, but seems to have been achieved by cropping the centre of a high-res photo taken by a non-telephoto lens. Overall, it is perfectly adequate for illustrating a WP article, but not a great photographic example IMO. Sionk (talk) 13:00, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dome of Lotfollah mosque, Isfahan

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 11 Apr 2012 at 06:12:33 (UTC)

Reason

Beautiful, high quality, and impressive symmetry

Articles in which this image appears

Lotfollah mosque, Symmetry

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors

Creator

Phillip Maiwald (Nikopol)

• Support as nominator --Z 06:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support good quality, technical framing, 3D conception.Alborzagros (talk) 06:52, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, wonderful Jkadavoor (talk) 08:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support support support support. Great image, framing. Underrepresented area (Islam) Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:45, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support--MR.Brain 12:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Have people actually looked at the articles in which this is used? The EV in symmetry is next to none, as the section is over-illustrated and this kind of architecture (nevermind this particular example) is not mentioned at all. In the mosque article, it's just been tagged on to the end of a (large) gallery. A great candidate for Commons FP, a poor one for enwp. J Milburn (talk) 13:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Has this been advertised somewhere? J Milburn (talk) 13:52, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Agree with J Milburn: limited EV. For the mosque article, the photo showing half the ceiling and some wall is actually more useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colin (talk • contribs)
• Comment Colin, Milburn, I think you're entirely missing the point and purpose of the artist. To explain in approachable language, the designer causes the viewer to experience an altered state of mind. Keep in mind, that the artist has decided that the proper viewing position is to stand straight with your head leaning back so your face points towards the heavens above, and you lose the sense of connection (visual and symbolic) to the ground, as well as the whole bloodflow thing. Beginning by overloading the viewers vision with fine detail and pattern which increases towards the center of the image, matching the rod and cone density of the human eye, then using the central focusing point which the artists has given the viewer to "hold onto for dear life" as their brain 'compensates' by negating the pattern which 'disappears' after a few moments for some people, but takes longer for others (same way some people can't see the 3D images on paper by refocusing their eyes, this is easy for some, takes longer for others). The viewer is holding onto the central point as all the rest of the image disappears and swirls. This has obvious connections to the place the viewer has in the world. There are many messages this artist has for the viewer, and certainly the religious messages are clear. Am I the only person seeing these clear meanings ? This is not Christmas wrapping paper. This is a mosque ceiling. Unfortunately, although we can well stare at the center point on our monitor, no matter how good or how wide and detailed the monitor is, A) none of us are holding the monitor overhead B) none of us are pilgrims. So I guess it's 'what fraction' of the message of this artist can we grasp. That is the question. Having part of the floor in the picture is not helpful. The best way to understand is to adjust our monitors by switching them off and then wandering the earth. I think no image on this page comes close to the real life experiences that exist outside. (I took a wander with my mind over the pictures on this page, it would be so cool to go to 1/10th of these places, wow, alas) Penyulap ☏
  • That's nice. Now, maybe you'd like to note the featured picture criteria? That's what we're meant to be judging this against. J Milburn (talk) 08:54, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Indeed, Featured picture criteria Number 1. "a high technical standard. Its main subject is in focus, it has good composition and has no highly distracting or obstructing elements." such as having a wall in the picture. Sure, there may indeed be valid reasons to oppose, but the lack of a wall doesn't convince me it should be opposed. Penyulap ☏
• Oppose. I'm inclined to go with J Milburn on this one. The image is striking in an abstract way, but unfortunately it is only very tangentially linked to the articles in which it appears. Penyulap's comment above is certainly interesting, but it doesn't reflect the way that this image is discussed in our articles. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Per J Milburn. Dusty777 17:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, Irānshahr (talk) 21:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Again, where has this been advertised? J Milburn (talk) 22:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added it to WProject Math. Iran, Islam and Architecture, as they are bannered on the article tp's. Something I do not know, can a candidate category be added for symmetry ? I'm not familiar with process. Penyulap ☏
    • Penyulap, can I ask what brought you to the discussion? J Milburn (talk) 08:42, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Certainly. My technostalker seemed unusually reclusive the last few days after the bot he wrote for me was approved. So I stalked him here, just to have a look what he was up to. I have nothing but a general knowledge interest in Mosques, Math, and Islamic art, and had no intention to comment until I came across the comment that the wall should be in the picture. As an artist and many other things, it was obvious to me what the artist who did this roof was after, of course we can't ask him, I mean the guy is dead by 400 years, so your opinion is as valid as mine on that topic. But you can get a grasp of his intention when you fill the screen and center your focus. You know I think that the problem here is the venue in time and space. We can't see life 400 years ago, but I have to tell you this, it was much more quiet, slower, and there was no constant bombardment of the senses by audio-visual information. You have to be very obscene with the illusions, like this kind of thing so that people can get any idea of what is going on. (actually this is a shade quieter). 400 years ago people usually only heard music at church, a cathederal is not designed for people to look at the preacher (think columns), that is not the point of the cathederal. you come into a different (sometimes darker) world of sound, where you switch off your eyes and drift with your mind on the emotions expressed by the choirs and in the hymns. The real world is in a galaxy far away. I would define regular sunday mass at a cathederal this way^ⓘ so the listener can see the shuffling shoes and restless kids, I'd define the monastery this way^ⓘ to show the robes are not as itchy as they look, and I'd call this^ⓘ music I just stole for my personal use thank you very much. Similar principle here in the mosque, but it's a visual, durr. The journey defined by this image is personal, not communal, one pilgrim at a time, and they wander in on any day at any time in the summerlike heat in their white robes, are they thirsty ? I think everyone in the middle east is thirsty. I'd say that to go there and experience the mosque is the only way to know how to define it, and even then, everyone comes away with a different story, but I'd say this ceiling tells a popular story. To be honest, I haven't looked at the walls myself. But I am captured instantly, if only briefly, by the message of this image. Penyulap ☏

• Support: Great image, underrepresented area (math). CRGreathouse (t | c) 06:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support: This image illustrate a rotational symmetry of order 32 (if my count is correct). This should be added in Symmetry#Rotational symmetry. This image also illustrate another kind of symmetry, not explicitly described in the article, namely the product of a rotation of angle 2π/64 by a homothety. In other words, this image is an excellent but poorly used illustration for the article symmetry. D.Lazard (talk) 07:23, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • If the image is excellent but the usage poor, it should not be promoted on the English Wikipedia. Here, the usage of featured pictures is highly important, as opposed to Commons, where we are judging on just the picture. J Milburn (talk) 08:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • it's not rotational symmetry of order 32 (see my !vote below). I make it 8, with reflections, so the group is D₈. But it's far from obvious and I may have missed some detail.--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 10:50, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• See Wikipedia talk:Featured picture candidates#Project and talk page notifications -- Colin°^Talk 07:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per lack of EV as currently used. Also concerned about possible canvassing. Clegs (talk) 10:11, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I hadn't wanted to vote, but if there is any canvassing going on, then I had better vote to help stamp it out. Some may say I am following a fashion of wiki politics, others will say I look beyond such juvenile pursuits and want to give an honest opinion of this image. I don't care which they say. For I at least, looked at this image. Penyulap ☏
  • Yes, again, we know you like the image, but this isn't Commons, we're not just judging the image. Please take a look at the criteria. J Milburn (talk) 13:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • is that the same page that I cut and pasted from yesterday when I quoted "1. a high technical standard. Its main subject is in focus, it has good composition and has no highly distracting or obstructing elements." or is it a different page entirely ? And are you sure this isn't commons ? Penyulap ☏ 14:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • There are eight criteria to judge images against. You've picked part of one. The major different between this and Commons is the additional requirement wrt encyclopaedic value in actual articles. Colin°^Talk 14:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well I go by a Dead poet standard and don't follow the two dozen criteria here, (more a matter of ripping out the page and trusting my own artistic instincts). I only mentioned one because someone else brought up having a wall in the picture. I honestly have no problem with this image. Penyulap ☏
          • If you're not going to pay attention to the criteria, then, with all due respect, you should not be taking part in the process, and I would hope any closer ignores your comments. I also do not see anything wrong with the picture itself; as I said, this would be a decent candidate on Commons (and yes, I'm sure that this isn't Commons, whatever that's supposed to mean). However, we are not just judging the artistic elements of the picture, which seems to make up the entirety of your vote. There are a great number of other factors- copyright, correspondence with reality and usefulness in the encyclopedia being three elements of easily equal importance to artistic value. The criteria quite clearly note that artistic value comes second to encyclopedic value (of course, you're above such pettiness, so I speak to others only...) If you want to play at being an art critic, that's fine, I'm sure you'll get a lot out of it, but here is not the place to do it. J Milburn (talk) 16:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • You've misunderstood. I've read the entire list, it makes intuitive sense and as I read it first time I cross off mentally everything that I'd do naturally, only looking for unusual things that I actually need to remember, but there are none. I don't need to refer to it ever again as it's intuitive. Strangely, you don't seem to remember it, as I had quoted you part of it, and then a day later you'd asked if I had seen it, but that's all cool. Engineers need years of study into lift, drag, thrust, airframe construction theory, aircraft engines and avionics get so darn complicated, and then the pilots even after years of experience still need a co-pilot and a heap of checklists whereas a bird simply spreads its wings and takes to the sky. Some people can sing naturally, I can't and no amount of training will change that. We all have talents and weaknesses. You asked if I know where I am, in regards to 'this is not commons', well yes I do, I contribute to wikipedias in dozens of languages, and I speak without words. I write PURELY visual documentations where pictures are the only language like a FAQ for a visual gallery of barnstars and a a robot console (which needs one more pic I haven't done yet). If I need an image to make another image I don't need to read up documentation to tell me how to choose the best ones, actually that would take me weeks even months for one days work if I had to process at that speed. But written documentation is very important and it is very important that you do read that list, at least daily I guess, as you had asked me if I had read it the next day remember ? So read that list and you can't go wrong. Anyhow, there are lots of people arrived to help with other problems like if it has EV for symmetry, experts from wikiproject math. How about the guy who says stuff like "the product of a rotation of angle 2π/64 by a homothety" pretty darn impressive that, I have no idea what on earth he is talking about, but he talks the talk, he can see the same thing I saw, that the image is nothing but net, but he can translate it into proper mathematical language, which is what you're after, yes language ? Anyhow, I don't know how things work around here, so I agree, nobody should listen to me. I have too many other things to do than explain more than why a wall doesn't belong in the pic. Anyhow we are going to cop a spanking if we don't take this off to our talkpages. I'm very happy to continue discussion on my talkpage if you like, but we'd best stop here. Penyulap ☏
• Support(tentative): It seems like an excellent picture. Admittedly this is the first chance I've had to apply the guidelines here. Can someone explain which guidelines are being used to object to the picture? I have been looking and can't decide. Rschwieb (talk) 15:49, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Criterion 5. The usage in the Mosque article is not appropriate for it to pass as a featured picture- the article is woefully over-illustrated, and this particular shot is just tacked onto the end of a gallery. The particular section of the symmetry article, too, is over-illustrated, and, to make matters worse, the use of this kind of symmetry in Islamic architecture is not discussed at all. It would be like promoting a picture of a flower for the illustration it adds to an article on human beauty. Essentially, we are not just judging the image itself (I do not challenge that the image itself is an interesting one- as I said, it would make an excellent candidate at Commons), but the extent to which it contributes to the articles. J Milburn (talk) 16:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Oppose low EV.--GoP_T^C_N 18:01, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - as per other comments above, the image meets every other part of the criteria except for Point 5. I've been invited here from WP Architecture and, from what I can see, the picture neither helps understand the Mosque, or symmetry in architecture. The other three pictures in the mosque article are far more descriptive of the ceiling (which I didn't realise was a circular dome until I saw them). Symmetry in architecture is far better illustrated by building facades, vistas etc. rather than a technically clever picture of a ceiling pattern. Sorry to disappoint the author! Sionk (talk) 18:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Doesn't "Symmetry in architecture" create a non-existent category ? like "Mosques in Mathematics" few images would explain the new subject. Is it separate categories or mix and (mis)match ? Penyulap ☏
    • Not sure what you mean. The photo is used to illustrate the 'Symmetry in Architecture' section of the article. To be honest, if it wasn't for this 'vote' I would remove the photo and replace it with something more central to the subject. Sionk (talk) 22:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Part of the point for its inclusion there is that it illustrates a different type of symmetry, actually a dihedral symmetry, rather than the very common bilateral symmetry you would see in building facade. You need this particular view to show the symmetric relation precisely. --Salix (talk): 23:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Everything else, as the opposes admit, is great; the EV would be less disputable if the article on the mosque didn't have that gallery of images as this is the only one of only the ceiling. Nothing a little editing of the article can't fix. Daniel Case (talk) 19:34, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tangetal thinking there. should be an oppose vote really, as the article won't get written any time soon, and the image won't fit until the writing is done. But then, does the writing get done before the images inspire, the classic chicken and egg paradox. Penyulap ☏
• Weak oppose I think generally speaking a detail of the interior of a dome has high enough EV to become FP, but here what disturbs me is that is no element of scale, is not clear what extent of the dome is depicted, and the landscape format is distracting from the central character of the space. I would much more prefer a square format, depicting the whole dome. --ELEKHH^T 21:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Oppose Image is used in gallery for primary article, thus fails criteria there, and has ALMOST ZERO EV in secondary article, so imho fails the criteria there. Unless the primary article actually talks about the ceiling and uses this image to illustrate that section and not in a gallery, OR there is RELIABLE SOURCES that use this ceiling in relation to Symmetry then it has ZERO EV for that article. Based on this I would vote for speedy close with failure to meet the minimum requirements for nomination. — raekyt 09:26, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per Robert Byron's quote in the Lotfollah mosque "I know of no finer example of the Persian Islamic genius than the interior of the dome" followed by quite an extensive quote describing it. So we have an exemplar of the Islamic artistic style which builds upon their long tradition of using symmetric patterns in their art work, at the time they were much ahead of western use of symmetrical designs. (I think the article has expanded this section considerably since more of the previous comments so the EV is now much stronger). --Salix (talk): 23:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looking closer it does have a lot of different symmetries going on, each "petal" is bilaterally symmetric, further the 3rd, 5th and 7th rings have two lines of reflection. The choice of 32 is no accident as being a power of 2 allow rotation symmetry by 180°, 90°, 45°, 22.5° and 11.25°. The design allows some spirals to be seen, a feature of the rotation+homothety mentioned above.--Salix (talk): 00:20, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per J. Milburn. The building in question is gorgeous and well-deserving of a featured-picture-quality image. Sadly, the nominated image isn't it. Spikebrennan (talk) 21:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• oppose very nice to look at but of very poor encyclopaedic value, both as an architectural picture per other editors and as a far too complex an example of symmetry: see how long it takes you to read off exactly what it's symmetry group is (you can't do this from the thumbnail).--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 10:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 03:53, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brick wall close-up

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 11 Apr 2012 at 07:25:30 (UTC)

Reason

very good quality

Articles in which this image appears

Brick and wall

FP category for this image

Creator

User:peter23

• Support as nominator --Alborzagros (talk) 07:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment This certainly a well executed image, however, I am still struggling with the idea of these simple images having wow. Saffron Blaze (talk) 17:00, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I don't know, it does wow for me. And I find it well illustrative. Tomer T (talk) 17:52, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I am at risk of being a hypocrite for liking this so much then :) Saffron Blaze (talk) 18:13, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • I like your linked picture too. Nice composition. Colin°^Talk 21:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose It doesn't illustrate a brick. It doesn't illustrate a brick wall. It is too abstract and flat. It doesn't show a classic bond (pattern). The articles have an abundance of pictures, none of which stand out as being the one for the lead. This is a rather ugly, garish and unweathered grid of bricks with mortar. The misnamed File:Concrete wall.jpg is a better photo. I'd be tempted to remove this recent insertion from both articles, but I suspect doing so during an FPC might be viewed as disruptive. Colin°^Talk 21:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose No Encyclopedic value that I can see. Brick has 30+ pictures already, and this one does not add anymore EV then the others, (They are all pretty much a picture of the same thing) I don't know of anyone who hasn't seen a brick wall, so... it's not really that informative of a picture. I just don't see any EV here. Dusty777 21:15, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Morse Code? --99of9 (talk) 14:03, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Well-executed, but meh, and doesn't really show a brick wall, just a pattern of bricks with no sense of scale. Clegs (talk) 10:13, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose low EV. Sanyambahga (talk) 17:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak oppose - I would vote keep, apart from the fact the image lacks any adequate description, therefore failing (7) of the assessment criteria. I would like to know more about where the wall was located and some information about the type of brick. Apart from failing (7), it meets every other part of the criteria. It is an excellent illustration for the Brick article, because it shows a wide variety of handmade(?) bricks, of a variety of colours and a non-standard (but illustrative) bond. The lighting allows one to see that the mortar is recessed. Sionk (talk) 11:53, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 03:53, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Messerschmitt Bf 108

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Reason

Good quality, composition and EV

Articles in which this image appears

Messerschmitt Bf 108

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Air

Creator

Joe Rimensberger

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 17:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - Soft... for an image that size I'd expect a bigger file (and hopefully sharper image). Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:03, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - Good plane image is like this: (see below). MathewTownsend (talk) 18:53, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying you don't like the composition? The two images are actually very similar... Clegs (talk) 10:14, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And this is also a good plane photograph. Tomer T (talk) 21:28, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Have you actually tried taking pictures of planes? It's VERY hard to get a plane that's moving 300+ mph perfectly sharp. Good composition and acceptable quality. Clegs (talk) 10:16, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose It's an impressive picture, but (per Crisco) the picture is soft and not entirely in focus. Dusty777 17:46, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support very difficult to take such or similar images. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 13:59, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support A little bit soft as mentioned above, but with degree-of-difficulty this is really great. I see no difference in quality between the above and below pictures. -RunningOnBrains^(talk) 19:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doris Miller

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 11 Apr 2012 at 20:27:32 (UTC)

Reason

Sharp photo, good posture, showcasing his Navy Cross. This image was used for the US postage stamp and perhaps for the "Above and beyond" poster. Brandmeister^talk 21:15, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Articles in which this image appears

Doris Miller, Africans in Hawaii

FP category for this image

People/Military

Creator

US Navy

• Support as nominator --Brandmeister^talk 20:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Probably not relevant, but a related picture has been nominated before. J Milburn (talk) 21:09, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - I'm torn. The image is fairly nice, but the angle is odd. If one were to restore this file I think it may have a better chance (but that's just me) Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:06, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• There you can see his face only partially and the Navy Cross is obscured. Brandmeister^talk 23:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• For identification purposes only, I agree that this is a better image. However, for both photographic style and EV (him actually receiving the medal) I think the other is a bit higher). I'm not going to oppose this on angle alone, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with a support vote either. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - His face is unclear and his eye on the right side looks odd. (Is it partly blotted out?) His mid section overwhelms his face, drawing attention to his stomach first. MathewTownsend (talk) 18:47, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Indeed an odd angle for a portrait shot. Sanyambahga (talk) 17:01, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tewkesbury Abbey

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 9 Apr 2012 at 15:29:30 (UTC)

Reason

Very nice one with high EV

Articles in which this image appears

Tewkesbury Abbey, List of English abbeys, priories and friaries serving as parish churches

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture

Creator

Saffron Blaze

• Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 15:29, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- per nom. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:47, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Jkadavoor (talk) 03:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support[[User talk:ayanosh|T]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/ayanosh|M]] (talk) 18:10, 1 April 2012 (UTC)ayanosh[reply]
• Support. Now this is how you photograph an old English church. Daniel Case (talk) 04:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support nice building Alborzagros (talk) 06:59, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak oppose: Nobody's noticed the dust spots yet, or how soft it is? Julia\^talk 20:16, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• For softness, I don't quite mind as this is at a high resolution. If we were to insist on sharpness, we'd probably end up with a downsampled image. I cannot comment on dust spots as this monitor is insanely dirty (I'm not at home) Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I took the resolution into account, which is why I only opposed weakly. But even at the reduced resolution you added (and I had looked at it downsampled before voting), it's visibly unsharp, particularly on any of the spires. I can make exceptions for underwater photography, concert pics, other live events, animals (they move) and plants (wind is often an issue), but this is too easily reproducible to consider it our best work. Julia\^talk 07:07, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Couldn't find any dust spots. Same thoughts on sharpness as Crisco. Clegs (talk) 10:01, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Beautiful and sharp enough. O.J. (talk) 13:28, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Now that the dust spots are gone. I took the liberty of applying some sharpening to the original and removing the resize. Saffron Blaze (talk) 00:48, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Beautiful picture. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Tewkesbury Abbey 2011.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I guess this is a promotion. I don't know why I haven't closed it yet. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Dominic Presiding over an Auto-da-fe

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 12 Apr 2012 at 03:06:35 (UTC)

Reason

High quality scan, contemporary depiction of a historical punishment, notable artist

Articles in which this image appears

Auto-da-fé (lead image), Inquisition, Saint Dominic, +5

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others

Creator

Pedro Berruguete

• Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:06, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose The artistic value is there, but the image may be historically inaccurate, see Saint Dominic: the grace of the word and Inquisition from Its Establishment to the Great Schism, p. 82. Brandmeister^talk 17:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• comment -- i am just feeling my way around here; hope you don't mind lengthy commentary. i can't access your first reference, and the second one doesn't impress me much; it sounds very defensive and offers no evidence. according to the prado's portuguese website (the link to the painting itself on Auto-da-fé is broken), yes, the painter has taken all sorts of liberties in order to convey the aspects of an auto-da-fé, but behaviour as well as clothing is acknowledged to be representative of the time. does it matter whether that was really st dominic presiding at this particular auto-da-fé? i mean, of course in an absolute sense it does, but isn't what we'd expect from any painting of the time a general feeling of authenticity rather than cold, hard facts only? the article is about auto-da-fé, not about st dominic, and there is a note under the image that points out that it might not be accurate. and in the article about st. dominic there is a paragraph right next to it on how his involvement has been disputed. i really like the image educationally; it's very detailed; much better than the other ones (it certainly got me to read a lot about the inquisition just now). piranha (talk) 08:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:04, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Buff-banded Rail

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 13 Apr 2012 at 09:44:04 (UTC)

Reason

I think I spent about two days hoping for a picture of one of these in Canberra. It seems as though I had to go west to have any luck.

Articles in which this image appears

Buff-banded Rail

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds

Creator

JJ Harrison

• Support as nominator --JJ Harrison (talk) 09:44, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: looks slightly overexposed. Or is that just me? Clegs (talk) 10:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose -- Slightly overexposed, and I'm not into how that bird jumps out at you from the background. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose overexposed and the out-of-focus grass at the lower end is a bit distracting. Sanyambahga (talk) 17:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Looks great to me, I think it has improved the article substantially. TehGrauniad (talk) 11:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose The motion blur isn't necessarily a bad thing, but between that and the slight overexposure, at high resolution it looks a bit messy. -RunningOnBrains^(talk) 19:50, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. The in-focus and out-of-focus "zones" in the grass are a bit distracting, sorry. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:09, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cary Grant

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 24 Mar 2012 at 00:16:34 (UTC)

Reason

This large, public domain image of actor Cary Grant reminded me quite a lot of File:Hepburn-afternoon.jpg, which was promoted to FP back in November. It clearly identifies the subject, and appears to be of a high quality. The original image has kindly been brightened by Crisco 1492.

Articles in which this image appears

Cary Grant

FP category for this image

People/Entertainment

Creator

Photograph originally taken by RKO publicity photographer; retouched by Crisco 1492

• Support as nominator --A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 00:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:36, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Support <3 <3 <3 --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 13:35, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Insufficient proof of copyright status. Per Wikimedia counsel (in response to a query about publicity images such as this), "It is essential to confirm that the exact image uploaded to Common was released without a copyright notice". See WP:CCI#Attorney reply. There is no proof specific to this image showing that there was no copyright notice/no renewal. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:42, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Dang, thanks for the warning. Any advice on how I can fix this or whom I should speak to? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 02:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I'd look on ebay to see if there is a copy of the same image with both the back and front. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:33, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• This image for the same film, for example, is clearly PD. I'd think it's safe to assume that this one is too, but IANAL. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:08, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]