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The result was Bizarre adventure. The AfD is being closed many years later, because it was never properly closed back then, because it was never visible, because it was never transcluded on any of the daily logpages. Technically, it has still been open this whole time.

Nobody else could ever be admitted here, because this door was made only for you. I am now going to shut it. (non-admin closure) jp×g 22:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Old nomination[edit]

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The result was Bizarre adventure. The AfD is being closed many years later, because it was never properly closed back then, because it was never visible, because it was never transcluded on any of the daily logpages. Technically, it has still been open this whole time.

Nobody else could ever be admitted here, because this door was made only for you. I am now going to shut it. (non-admin closure) jp×g 22:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ghost Rider (stuntman)[edit]

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No sources beyond "ghost riders" own web site and no obvious notability.Bali ultimate (talk) 04:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was snowball keep. King of ♠ 23:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Merle (band)[edit]

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Delete I thought this article had already been deleted? I don't think it clearly displays notability. Boleyn2 (talk) 21:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was snowball delete. King of ♠ 23:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Twelfth Night (Mark Knopfler & Eric Clapton album)[edit]

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Not notable. Didn't seem to fit a speedy delete. There does not appear to be enough reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy to maintain an independent article on this topic. -- Suntag 23:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This is a bootleg, not an official album. Perhaps it should have been speedy. Lastcent (talk) 06:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not a speedy. A9 is only for albums/songs by red link artists. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirps • HELP) 18:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was keep. Bearian (talk) 16:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vienna fingers[edit]

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There seems to be no notability for this cookie. The references provided are a link to the company's site which provides nutrition information and product description of the cookie. The other reference is to an article that never mentions the cookie at all. Please also see discussion at Talk:Vienna fingers#Notability. A merge was suggested there, but I'm not sure what would be merged to the company's article other than a short product description of the cookie being vanilla wafer and filling. Metros (talk) 23:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing from the discussion page for Vienna fingers, where I came in as a third-opinion. The best argument I thought fudgecicle had was that you can get 4730 Google hits for "Vienna fingers" as a phrase (1.4m as separate words, but mostly hits such as "picking up Vienna sausages with your fingers"). Most of them are just utilitarian commercial links, a few of them were "reviews," and none of the ones I saw showed cultural significance. By contrast "ladyfingers" gets almost 300,000 hits, most of which showed cultural significance IMO - books, history, recipes, being used as a name, etc. Existing, being sold, and apparently being enjoyed by some aren't criteria for notability.
Support deletion. arimareiji (talk) 04:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What I truly meant above is that Kelloggs, the mother company of S.B., is a fortune 500. Now, if Neil Simon mentioned Vienna Fingers in his Odd Couple script, that makes Vienna fingers culturally important. The Odd Couple was a very famous movie (or TV show, or whatever), though I don't know what it's about. One of the discussors mentioned that many of the links were ads; well, that also makes it important. If a product has large scale advertising like that, that means it is important. Furthermore, the fact that vienna fingers are mentioned in several diet books means that they are important to fat people because they are tasty and healthier than other things. This should make everyone sure that these references provide notability. I will have to put up some more info about the Odd Couple thing on the Wikipedia Article.Ask the fudgecicle (talk) 18:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Ask the fudgecicle[reply]

TV shows are part of pop culture. If vienna fingers are in a TV show, especially a famous one, that means that they are a part of the culture. Therefore, vienna fingers are definitevly part of American culture. Q.E.D.Ask the fudgecicle (talk) 00:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)Ask the fudgecicle[reply]

So, you're saying that if someone mentioned me in a famous TV show, I would be notable enough for an article? Sam Blab 11:15, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In the first episode (I think?) of the Brit version of Coupling, Jeff mentions "unflushables" (aka floaters) as a metaphor for relationships you can't get rid of. Does that mean they need their own article?... Good grief, wait a minute - there is a subsection of his page devoted to that term! ;-) Fortunately, there's no mention of the objects that prompted the metaphor - nor is there an article devoted to them. But they did merit a disambiguation.
(Sorry, just thought the discussion could use a little reductio ad absurdum humor.) arimareiji (talk) 19:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly Sam; that would make you much more culturally important.Ask the fudgecicle (talk) 18:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)Ask the fudgecicle See? It does mean cultural notability! Arimaj-whatever agrees! Now, the only thing is that no one has come up with a definition for "cultural notability". Every example I have given is evidently not "cultural notability". If someone could actually give a definition for once, I'm sure finding a good reason would be easy. Until then, no one should really have any right to say what is or isn't "cultural notability".Ask the fudgecicle (talk) 21:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)Ask the fudgecicle[reply]

I think it might be instructive if you include examples of the actual usage in context to show why there's notability. See Wikipedia:Arguments_to_avoid_in_deletion_discussions#Notability_fallacies wrt Google hits.
  • For example, "Vienna fingers have long been considered a cultural icon" by (www.doesntexist.com) would show it.
  • But it's highly open to argument whether "Keebler, the maker of Chips Deluxe, Hydrox and Vienna Fingers" would. arimareiji (talk) 04:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Arguments_to_avoid_in_deletion_discussions#Notability_fallacies is an opinion essay, not Wikipedia policy -- people are entitled to their opinions, of course, but let's not mistake opinions for policy. Opinions notwithstanding, the fact remains that this particular product has been around for decades (a lot longer than all of us, I imagine) and is cited by major media as one of the flagship products of the Keebler organization -- which, logically, would be a confirmation of its notability. Ecoleetage (talk) 10:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ecoleetage (talk) 10:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was G11 by Jac16888, NAC. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirps • HELP) 04:00, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Freebiejeebies[edit]

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Editor has deleted Speedy G11 templates twice without doing anything to change the article. Blatant advertising for this website. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have just discovered that the article was speedy deleted and promptly re-created. Please salt. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was snowball delete. King of ♠ 23:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BISHOP A[edit]

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Unreferenced, only external links to myspace, WP:BIO and WP:NB cf38talk 23:24, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was keep. Wizardman 19:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sara Benincasa[edit]

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Delete - does not appear to pass WP:BIO as an actress or entertainer. Cites are largely to youtube and other similarly unreliable sources, Otto4711 (talk) 23:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • The coverage in those sources is not substantively about Benincasa as required by WP:BIO. None of them appear to contain more than a paragraph or two that are about her, including two that are the same material from ABC about moose jokes. Otto4711 (talk) 07:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • None of the Google News hits appear to be reliable. The others, as noted, are not substantively about Benincasa. Otto4711 (talk) 07:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 08:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chubby Parade[edit]

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Non-notable website, but asserts notability. Is one of the premium websites in its field, not a speedy. Porollostracuos (talk) 23:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete, redirect to The Notorious B.I.G. made. --Tone 19:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biggy Smallz[edit]

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Only info on the artist was from the usual webcrawling sites, allmusic and yahoo music. Also this: [5] seems to indicate that this person is in fact Christopher Wallace aka The Notorious B.I.G., and the source (Billboard) is a lot more credible than a crawler page.Terrillja (talk) 22:32, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose I think it is important to recognize that Biggy Smallz is a completely different artist than Notorious B.I.G., especially when listening to the audio samples and looking at the artist's record label displayed on the covers of the singles. ex:[6] and Listen to "Nobody Rides for Free" by Biggy Smallz. As for the link you have provided, the author of the book most likely inferred the statement. Inferences are not encouraged on wikipedia. However, Live-Squad.com clearly has reputable authority over the subject, much more so than the secondary-source based The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits. Lhw1 (talk) 22:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have to disagree, citing the website of a group about a song that one of their members was part of doesn't seem to meet WP:RS. I would recommend that you read over WP:PRIMARY. In Wikipedia, a source with no personal, direct involvement (secondary source) is favored over a source with direct involvement (primary source). --Terrillja (talk) 23:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would like to know your stance on whether or not you think they are two separate people after you have thoroughly listened to the clips and examined the scans. It is requested that this article will not face deletion while we collaboratively look for the sources deemed "reliable". I would argue that the primary source I have cited is sufficient enough to keep the article, or in the least challenge contradicting allegations to the point that both opposing views should be taken with a grain of salt. Lhw1 (talk) 23:25, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lifted84 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. --Terrillja (talk) 02:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete under CSD G10 as attack page. Tim Vickers (talk) 19:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alberto Hodari[edit]

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This page seems to meet the deletion requirements for "vandalism", specifically as it includes "pages which exist only to disparage their subject". Though it's probably not worth getting into the merits of the particular accusations the page makes (given that regardless of their veracity it still exists only to disparage the subject) it at least bears mentioning that the charge that Dr. Hodari faced charges for illegal disposal of aborted fetuses turned out to be a hoax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sporquemada (talkcontribs)

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The result was snowball delete. King of ♠ 23:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Johannine Comma (The Grammatical Argument)[edit]

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This article is an essay, and another article on the subject (Comma Johanneum) already exists. If anything, content worthy of inclusion in the existing article should be merged and the subject of this debate deleted or redirected. Also, all implausible redirects associated with the subject of this debate (including Johannine Comma (2), 1 John 5:7 (2), and 1 John 5:7a should be deleted. Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 22:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I decided to ignore stylistic concerns in favor of the more pressing issues, but I agree wholeheartedly. :) Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 22:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 08:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unilever Axe/Dove controversy[edit]

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Basically, this article takes a complaint a few newspapers (and blogs) ran with about the Axe body spray ad campaign, and turns it into an article. It's not a totally non-notable concept, but it's hardly some raging controversy. It's a consumer complaint, a media critique... it's not a movement, and the complaints have largely come and gone, as far as I can tell. It's notable enough to mention in Axe (Lynx) and maybe Unilever (and it is mentioned in both), but to have a standalone article is basically to claim a few newspaper articles here and there make a mere product complaint notable. Rividian (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 08:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Robby Todino[edit]

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This guy was identified by wired as a spammer in 2003. But there's really no evidence of notability outside that crime story. He generates 100 googles [7] which is tiny for an internet story, and there's nothing on Google news. WP:BLP issues are here - we've one source and no real significance. Scott MacDonald (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.  Sandstein  21:59, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ShareNow[edit]

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(prior AfD) Other than brief discussion here and here, article's subject lacks significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. The other sources used in the article are to non-WP:RS, non-independent sources and sources affiliated with the subject of the article. There is also a conflict of interest issue here with the major contributor to the article, see [8] and COIN. Cirt (talk) 20:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the outstanding thoughtful comment. However, it is still not enough to convince me that this article should be singled out for deletion when so many less notable remain. Steve Dufour (talk) 06:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a really good "keep" rationale... Cirt (talk) 06:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I look forward to your massive AfD's on non-notable topics then. Project Scientology alone has 300 to 400 at least. :-) Steve Dufour (talk) 19:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Steve Dufour (talk · contribs), please stop with the WP:POINT disruptive comments which are not related to this AfD. Cirt (talk) 20:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was DELETE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JodyB (talkcontribs)

Billy Williams (spammer)[edit]

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Barely notable, "one event", sensational BLP. Even the title is probably a BLP violation. MBisanz talk 20:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was WP:SNOW Keep. NAC. Schuym1 (talk) 18:29, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Francesca's Kitchen[edit]

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Contested PROD, non-notable book, no sources beyond Amazon.com Mister Senseless (Speak - Contributions) 19:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How so? Did you see Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Notability (books)? Because if that were really true, I do wonder why we don't have an article for every single book ever published that has been reviewed on a site. LadyGalaxy 22:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I have. It has significant coverage in reliable sources. Schuym1 (talk) 22:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read it? Schuym1 (talk) 22:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Where are these reliable sources, then? Care to show me some? (Please, no review sites...) LadyGalaxy 22:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Those review sites are reliable and they show notability. I am done discussing this with you. Schuym1 (talk) 22:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We'll see what everyone else has to say about this article. Keep it or not? In the meantime, I went to go post on one of those official Wikipedia support pages to ask about review sites. LadyGalaxy 22:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I got the answer. See here!
A book's listing at online bookstores such as Barnes & Noble.com or Amazon.com is not by itself an indication of notability as both websites are non-exclusionary, including large numbers of vanity press publications. There is no present agreement on how high a book must fall on Amazon's sales rank listing (in the "product details" section for a book's listing) in order to provide evidence of its notability or non-notability. LadyGalaxy 22:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
None of the links are online bookstores. Schuym1 (talk) 22:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Of the four links supplied as references, one is Amazon. Here, read the article: Amazon.com started as an on-line bookstore, but soon diversified to product lines of VHS, DVD, music CDs, MP3 format, computer software, video games, electronics, apparel, furniture, food, toys, etc. Amazon has established separate websites in Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, China and Japan. It also provides global shipping to certain countries for some of its products. One link I can't click, the other is broken, and the other is just a link to a site that is simply not a reliable source. It's no newspaper article or book on it. I don't know what you're trying to prove here. LadyGalaxy 22:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is 2 links that are from newspapers.. I did not add the Amazon link. Schuym1 (talk) 22:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And Romantic Times is a reliable source because it is a magazine. Schuym1 (talk) 22:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is that so? I never heard of such a magazine. Must not be mainstream enough. Well, I noticed that one of the links is broken. LadyGalaxy 22:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The top of Romantic Times says The Magazine For Fiction Lovers so that's how I know. I fixed the link! Schuym1 (talk) 22:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Also, reliable sources can be websites also. Schuym1 (talk) 22:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So it has three reliable sources that show notability. Schuym1 (talk) 22:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted hoax. Gwen Gale (talk) 15:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jibber Skabing[edit]

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This could be a legitimate activity, but it lacks any real context context or any sources proving that this concept does actually exist, or why its notable. Mister Senseless (Speak - Contributions) 19:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I noticed right after I posted this AfD, another contributor nominated this for speedy deletion as patent nonsense, but I did want to give the benefit of the doubt. Mister Senseless (Speak - Contributions) 19:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedily deleted. Housekeeping. Protonk (talk) 06:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good Feet Store[edit]

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Non-notable, advertising spam, original research, circular references... DELETE! Proxy User (talk) 19:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete as a hoax article. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 20:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Onion Rationing in the United Kingdom[edit]

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This is a hoax. The reference cited is, perhaps deliberately, confused: a mixture of the titles of two Nigel West books: MI6, British Secret Intelligence Operations 1909-45 and MI5: British Security Service Operations 1909-45. An operation like this would come under MI5, but I have checked both books, and neither of them mentions onion rationing, "Operation Omelette" or "Octolitehydroxide". Nor does J.C.Masterman's The Double Cross System, which is a history of deception operations like this. Google finds nothing relevant for Operation Omelette or for onion rationing. Finally, according to Austerity in Britain, the book cited as a source for Rationing in the United Kingdom, onions were not in fact rationed. Delete. JohnCD (talk) 19:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've looked at the history of that article, which is interesting: "onions" were added to the list on 1 April 2006 (perhaps a significant date) but they were only in the position this mirror has them until 24 June 2006 when they were moved up into the main list. So the mirror has not been updated for over two years. It just shows that WP is not a reliable source and its mirrors still less so. JohnCD (talk) 20:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.  Sandstein  21:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rockdetector[edit]

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website fails criteria at WP:WEB, article makes no assertions of why it is notable and a thorough search reveals no coverage in reliable sources. Appears to be the personal project of a small non-notable author.neon white talk 18:55, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is no indication that the author is notable, he has no work published in journals, magazines or newspaper, is not quoted or cited in any known work, very little info in any sources. This is likely why he has no article himself therefore the website cannot inherit any notability from him. The books are published by a very small independent publisher. Regardless there is no criteria that says a website is notable because it has a number of equally non-notable books associated with it. --neon white talk 10:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He writes books, not newspaper or magazine articles. He has had quite a few published and they have been reviewed. This article isn't about Sharpe-Young, though, and nobody has suggested that Rockdetector should inherit notability from him. There are, however, 3 Google scholar hits for him.--Michig (talk) 13:35, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
not a criteria for notability. see WP:WEB. books are not independent of the subject and an author is not notable simply by being published. --neon white talk 10:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Criterion 3 states The content is distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators (admittedly then specifying specifically online media); Cherry Red is certainly independent of the creators and respected. I'm not sure if this criterion applies to media likes books. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 13:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neither is a veriiable source. Blabbermouth is certainly not. In fact it all but admits as much in a disclaimer that it is "run and operated independently of Roadrunner Records. The accuracy of the information contained herein is neither confirmed nor guaranteed by Roadrunner". It fails WP:V and cannot be used as a source here. The same goes for http://metal-rules.com, absolutely no reputation or indication of verifiabily, what is needed are newspapers, magazines, industry journals etc not self published websites. --neon white talk 10:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand your explanation of how does blabbermouth fail WP:V. The quote does not really make it non-reliable (but post the source if possible, please).--  LYKANTROP  13:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Blabbermouth appears to be a professionally run website with content created by its staff. Being independent of Roadrunner Records makes it no less reliable. I don't see how it is less reliable than many of the world's newspapers, all of which would be accepted as "reliable sources".--Michig (talk) 14:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Roadrunner is certainly reliable; it is endorsed by Roadrunner Records (hosting it is a fairly large endorsement) but is clearly independent of them- the disclaimer makes that clear. J Milburn (talk) 08:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
100% agreed, but the disclaimer, which I guess is true, is however still unsourced.--  LYKANTROP  10:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was snowball delete. King of ♠ 23:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gayline SF[edit]

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Highly likely to be a hoax, and if not, then it's certainly not notable enough for Wikipedia. Master&Expert (Talk) 18:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was merge to Music of the Czech Republic. MBisanz talk 03:41, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Music in the Bohemian Forest[edit]

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This is a dubious topic and is certainly nothing but original research. Woland (talk) 18:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Author:I have already added the sources I used so it should be all right. It is a description of the development of music in the Bohemina Forest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macane (talkcontribs) 20:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn. Non-admin closure. DARTH PANDAduel 20:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disconnected (song)[edit]

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Non notable song. Fails WP:MUSIC. Contested redirect. Nouse4aname (talk) 17:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was snowball delete. King of ♠ 23:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aap Kaa Suroor 2 - Ae Himesh Bhai[edit]

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Whether the movie will be made is not yet finalized KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 16:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried all those links and none of them work. None of them render anything useful. --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 06:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Really? Strange. The links all worked for me. It must have been some sort of fluke when I searched. I must have been doing something wrong. No doubt the article will return So, I will withdraw my keep. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I meant the google search page directs to pages which don't show anything useful-not even the Movie poster. The bloopers page is blank. Thats obvious as the film does not exist! You say "The film is out and getting coverage",..can you tell me when it was released? Not in India...am sure of that. --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 08:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Withdrawn. Non-admin closure. DARTH PANDAduel 20:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blackjack Pizza[edit]

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Withdraw15 days since notability notice. No change and no references. --Kickstart70-T-C 16:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've rewritten the article in a neutral format with information about its achievements and some not-so-flattering information about it being on The Boycott List its relation to the Columbine Massacre. It's not an advertisement — it's notable. Cunard (talk) 23:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
IMO (and only IMO), if that's the case, they should either be re-evaluated or put to Afd for a decision to be made.
The sources you are seeing have just been added since the Afd. This article has been around for a while without any citations or references. --Kickstart70TC 05:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see about half the AfDs resulted in keeps and at least one notable restaurant chain got deleted. If you're going to go through them like that please be sure to do a google search and look through the results, even consider improving the article, WP:BEFORE nominating. In many cases an unsuccessful nomination still results in very constructive improvements to the article. So if you keep them at a few a day and don't overload the system that's fine. If you were to nominate 20 in a day as some people have, nobody can keep up. Also, if it's notable but has clean-up or citation problems there are tags for that.Wikidemon (talk) 18:29, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm with T on this, Wikipedia is not a restaurant listing guide. Proxy User (talk) 17:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep(non-admin closure) the article is now well cited. Icewedge (talk) 20:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

B.R. Guest[edit]

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15 days since I posted a notability notice. No change and no additional references. --Kickstart70-T-C 16:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 08:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

David I. Leavitt[edit]

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This is an article about a non-notable journalist. The article cites no sources. Bryan Hopping T 15:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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STIR Future[edit]

The result was speedy keep, disruption. -- lucasbfr talk 15:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Article is garbage. A bit like the liquidity in these instruments at present Sockpuppet II (talk) 14:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 03:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UCH Sharks[edit]

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University sports teams with no reliable and independent sources referenced or likely to be available. British university sport is very unlike US college sport, in that with a very few exceptions British university sports teams are not followed by many - if any - outside (and even normally within) their respective universities. Pfainuk talk 14:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reasons:

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University of Gloucestershire Gladiators (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
BNU Buccaneers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (late addition, same type of article and I believe all arguments put forward can apply to this as well Pfainuk talk 11:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

i think this is rediculous, the sites should gefinately stay on american football is not followed as much in britain as it is in america but it is still a ever expanding sport. and being a player myself i think its insulting to be told we are not followed by our university. we have more fans at a american football game than any other team in the university. plus every year the american football makes a considerabe amount of money for various charities and is always top of that list.

these sites should not be closed down just because the sport is not understood by certain people, i think its rediculous that this ncan be even thought of —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.105.240.40 (talk) 15:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC) (Moved from talk Pfainuk talk 16:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

The standard we use is notability: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article. I don't believe these teams make that standard - it's nothing personal against the clubs themselves. Charitable donations are all very worthy, but do not make a team notable. And when you say that there are "more fans at a american football game than any other team in the university", let's remember that this is not necessarily a particularly large number of fans - at most universities an average turnout of half a dozen people who are not club members would put you top of the list in this respect. Pfainuk talk 16:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Portsmouth piece is a trivial mention (the video concentrates on the London Olympians, whose coverage is also pretty trivial), and the Southampton piece - from BBC local news - contains very little if anything about the team beyond the fact that it won the championship last year. If that's the only independent source we've got then that team does not need a separate article to say it.
Regarding the rest of this argument, the fact that the largest event involving the teams gets only 2000 spectators does not suggest to me that the teams that competed are notable, let alone those that did not. That it is one of the most watched university sports events (and I will accept this assertion in good faith) says more about British university sport than it does about the notability of the teams. The "increasing popularity of the sport" is irrelevant to this discussion except where it creates significant coverage in reliable and independent sources about a team - if there is none, as I contend for all of these, then our article on that team is inherently unverifiable and should be deleted. Note that I am not arguing to delete the article British Universities American Football League, which is also short on references. I am only arguing to delete the articles on the clubs that make up that league.
Finally, I note that I have added two one more, similar article. I believe that the arguments above cover those two that one as much as the others (as Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy), but nonetheless if an admin or one of those who has voted to delete above wants to remove it then they are welcome to do so. Pfainuk talk 12:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(Edit: one of them was a already up there but I apparently forgot to tag it before. It is now tagged.) Pfainuk talk 12:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/UCH_Sharks" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.70.123 (talk) 20:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • With regards to the galleries, strictly speaking that would probably count as third-party independant coverage (as required by WP:N), although it would probably need further sources to beef them up. The point I was making by posting that gallery (and perhaps one I should've made clearer - apologies for that) is that coverage DOES exist for BUAFL teams (and the BBC is a very major source, I might add). More importantly, such sources exist outside Google, hence the need for WP:GHITS. When looking for sources on any subjects such as these, it's sometimes necessary to narrow down the searches to a more local level. As far as your complaint above about no-one providing a source giving significant independant coverage, I have already demonstrated that with Britball Now - it is independant from any team, gives coverage to the uni teams, and it's the biggest resource on American football in this country. Hot Iron is another site focusing solely on the Scottish teams, and I believe First Down magazine also covers these teams. I also want to draw attention to the already-closed AfD provided by C.Fred as it makes an extremely valid point - the size of any of the teams is irrelevant, what's relevant is the fact that they form part of a large, national competition. These teams aren't playing in a tinpot local competition to see who gets the drinks in after the game, they're competing for the right to be the best uni team in the UK. I've participated in a number of AfDs regarding sports teams, and the single most overriding factor is the status of the league they play in - if a league is of a high enough standing, that confers notability on every team that competes (or has competed) within it. In this case, the BUAFL is the top tier in the country at which they can compete, therefore all these teams ARE notable enough. Bettia (rawr!) 12:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • My view is rather that the fact that this is the highest they can get to doesn't necessarily mean much. I competed at university level in another sport, in competitions to see which was the best university team in the region and in the country. I shouldn't think even the eventual champions would be considered notable in general, let alone our team which generally had some difficulty qualifying. Wikipedia doesn't have articles even for the federations we were members of, let alone the individual teams (though this comparison is clearly not a valid argument to delete the articles noted here). I think that these teams are not notable enough for our guidelines, but I reckon I've said that enough times that everyone who reads this knows what I think, and so now might be a good time for me to step back from this. Pfainuk talk 17:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot say there is not enough sources for this just becase they aren't mentioned on the articles which still need work - 90% of the articles on Wikipedia seem to need more work. Let's get some of these sources onto the pages and add records, team members etc so people can come on to here and find information about these teams rather than a generic page with little information or a page so full of information it's large and unreadable (I don't think we can have even a basic summary, results and roster for over 30 teams on one single page and keep the size down to within Wikipedia standards).JamesCollins (talk) 00:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. MBisanz talk 03:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UTS Students' Association[edit]

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fails WP:ORG, contains no references. contains no third party evidence of notability Michellecrisp (talk) 14:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I don't see any suggestion that the merge should be haphazard. Stating "Notable subject" is not a valid argument; notability is defined in WP:N and you need to add sources to meet this guideline. TerriersFan (talk) 22:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you think that students unions are supposed to be "inherently notable"? There is nothing of the sort in WP:ORG or in any of the pending (or even rejected) notability proposals and I don't think this opinion reflects either past practice or past consensus. Nsk92 (talk) 15:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Quite; student unions are not inherently notable and JRG should pursue a guideline if he wishes to establish this. "There should be sources on the group" is not a valid argument; I can find sources but they are tangential on aspects of their activities; none of the sources cover the union substantively and in detail. TerriersFan (talk) 22:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with the above 2 comments, I've actually participated in previous deletion debates where student unions have been merged or deleted. Every organisation must meet WP:ORG to be considered "inherently notable". A Google news search reveals some stories but more a representative of the association talking to the media. Very little that actually establishes notability of this association. Michellecrisp (talk) 23:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A google news search would only show very recent articles. At the very least you and the other anti-keeping editors should do some more thorough research before making conclusions that the page is not notable. Around the world student organisations have usually been kept. JRG (talk) 07:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, you can do a google news search on all dates and it includes material that is available on pay per article news services. I still stand by my assertion of it not being notable through lack of third party evidence which I haven't been able to find. Michellecrisp (talk) 11:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.  Sandstein  21:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Thunderlords[edit]

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I can't find any reliable sources that show notability. Doing songs for bestselling games and award winning games does not show notability because notability is not inherited. Schuym1 (talk) 14:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you mention it, I have seen news stories and online articles mention them independent of the Tony Hawk games. Weak keep. Tezkag72 (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy deleted G7 Author request. Non-admin closing. -- Blanchardb -MeMyEarsMyMouth- timed 15:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

C. Matthew McMahon[edit]

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Non-notable author/web designer. Lots of self-published books and sources cited that are run by the author himself, so some concern over whether he is in fact notable. Oscarthecat (talk) 13:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was snowball delete. King of ♠ 23:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The New Gilligan's Island[edit]

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Extremely non-notable television program. Apparently it's being aired at a middle school in Nevada? However, I find no mention of it anywhere through Google. And even if we did, I'm not sure it'd meet the notable guidelines. WoohookittyWoohoo! 11:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 08:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Liam Madigan-Fried[edit]

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No evidence of notability, no sources cited, fails Google News test with only one minor result, no evidence that HMMA is a major organization. Possible vanity page. Decided not to speedy since he does assert notability. TallNapoleon (talk) 10:55, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no assertion of notability, no sourcing. --Nate1481 11:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Deleted and userfied per author's request. Maybe it will be improved and reposted, then it can go through procedure again if needed. --Tone 07:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Hartmann (USN)[edit]

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Contested prod, the reason was No notability established whatsoever. Just happened to be in charge of a unit when it received an aircraft. Procedural nomination, no opinion from my side. Tone 09:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. He is, quite likely, not acceptable per general notability criteria, but why did you invoke an in-project essay that is non-binding even for the project members? There are too many user groups with their local rules; don't expect non-members to follow them. NVO (talk) 21:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Essays like WP:OUTCOMES, WP:HAMMER, and WP:AIRCRASH may not be binding, but they can provide useful guidance about the subject matter at hand. • Gene93k (talk) 22:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't notice it was just an essay (though the criteria seem to be those used in military Afd's anyway). Clarityfiend (talk) 01:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy delete and salt G3 Vandalism . Mattinbgn\talk 10:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Shaddock[edit]

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Speedy contested. Investigation found recreation of previous article. In the meantime editor copied the page on Peter Hans Kolvenbach substituting Tom Shaddock throughout. Recommend delete with salt. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. King of ♠ 23:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cowlesy Volleyball League[edit]

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Not notable. I can find no reference to Cowlesy + Volleyball. The article seems very similar in tone to the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lunchtime Basketball Association article. I would have suggested speedy, but would prefer to assume good faith and ask for consensus. The names of the team's players are almost certainly nom de guerres which causes further suspicion. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Delete I'm sure why this is here- because the CVL is a legitimate league and just because it doesn't have any facts about it on the internet, which is you lots only source of information, doesn't mean it is not real. The league is brilliant and I often go to watch it to see the likes of up and coming talents such as Ali Legmeister and Cowlesy Stojakovic. This wikipedia page may make more people aware of the league and increase volleyballs popularity in the state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim'spirates (talk • contribs) 23:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should familiarize yourself with WP:ORG and WP:N. This will help you understand why this article is being considered for deletion. There is nothing in the article that mentions why this organization is notable for an encyclopedia. I tried looking the Cowlesy Volleyball League up for you, and I found nothing about this organization at all. Beano (talk) 01:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Speedy delete G3 Complete and utter bollocks. Mattinbgn\talk 09:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Besma Ali[edit]

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Obvious case of complete bollocks, this seems to be a fictional vanity article for a teenager. Among the many absurdities, it claims that she has had 31 number ones in the States and 45 in Britain (nobody has ever had this many; not Elvis Presley, not the Beatles, and certainly not a seventeen year old girl), and that she recorded famous singles like Can't Get You out of My Head (I think you'll find that was someone else). Blatant enough to qualify as vandalism I think, but I'm bored edit warring with the creator and an IP over the speedy tag so bringing it here for hopefully a quick snowball delete. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 08:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy deleted before official closing. --Tone 11:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron Perrin[edit]

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Not notable, seems like made up giberish Omegacommand (talk) 08:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete (G11) by Nyttend. Non-admin closure. MuZemike (talk) 13:09, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hodderway books[edit]

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Blatent Ad Omegacommand (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The discussion about merging or stubbifying can continue on the article's talk page (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wedge Antilles[edit]

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Article consists entirely of in-universe cruft, and does not contain any factual information or sources. If deletion is out of the question, it should be merged into the main SW characters page. sixtynine • speak, I say • 06:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 08:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Catia Lee Love[edit]

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WP:BLP1E - she won Miss Gay America (which redirects) in 2000. No gBooks hits, gNews hits, and most (if not all) gWeb hits are self promotional. SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to existing article The John Fisher School as boldly done by Eastmain. TerriersFan (talk) 15:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Fisher School (purley)[edit]

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No third-party references, notability not established. KurtRaschke (talk) 04:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was db-spam. Schuym1 (talk) 13:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

StudentFilmmakers Magazine[edit]

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Promotional tone, notability not established, no references. KurtRaschke (talk) 04:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Notability demonstrated, unanimous keep (6 voters). Non-admin closure. neuro(talk) 21:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Baptist Hospital[edit]

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Created by an apparent COI SPA; promotional tone. KurtRaschke (talk) 04:25, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also bundling (same author, same topic):

Hickman Community Hospital (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Saint Thomas Hospital (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Saint Thomas Health Services (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Middle Tennessee Medical Center (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

--KurtRaschke (talk) 04:32, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are many articles about nonprofit organizations. A lot aren't even notable. Just keep it. There's no problem.--Xxhopingtearsxx (talk) 08:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 08:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

E-Deceptive Campaign Practices Report: Internet Technology & Democracy[edit]

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Essay-like, no third-party sources. KurtRaschke (talk) 04:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.  Sandstein  21:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NYSurfFilmFestival[edit]

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Created by a COI SPA; no reliable sources, notability not established, and a whole bunch of spam links at the bottom. KurtRaschke (talk) 03:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Christian Brothers High School (Sacramento, California). (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Christian brothers sacramento[edit]

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Notability not established, no references. KurtRaschke (talk) 03:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was snowball keep. King of ♠ 23:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vapor-Liquid-Solid method[edit]

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WP:NOT a cookbook; no references. KurtRaschke (talk) 03:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was snowball delete. King of ♠ 23:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nicholas Chavez[edit]

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Nothing in this article really explains why this person is notable. Little Red Riding Hoodtalk 03:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note--author claimed not to have been Chavez, or to be working for him, but this and this suggest otherwise. Let's add COI to the non-notability issue. Drmies (talk) 03:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE DELETE DELETE! PLEASE DELETE! This is Nicholas Chavez. Please delete this godforsaken article, it is a constant pain having to deal with the associated libelous vandalism. Please, please delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.122.69.221 (talk) 15:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC) Not worth keeping given the trouble it has caused the subject. John Reaves 20:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Merge to International reaction to the 2008 declaration of independence by Kosovo. Since I suspect that there will be those in both camps who will be curious as to my reasoning in this closing, I will try to explain. First, I did not consider the three articles that were withdrawn from the AfD - Canada, Japan and Australia Iceland; those articles are closed as Keep. The nomination primarily addressed a lack of sources showing notability for each of the remaining articles to exist in stand-alone form. This complaint was not rebutted by those arguing for the articles to be kept. Instead, the underlying thread of the discussion seemed to be that there was a certain inherent notability to relations between nations. The keep !votes also frequently pointed to the likelihood that the articles would be improved and expanded as sources appeared. I felt that on the whole, the failure of the articles to demonstrate notability through reliable sources indicated that they failed our inclusion guideline to exist as separate articles. The fact that sources were able to be found for the three articles that were withdrawn from the discussion further illustrated that this was not a case in which it was impossible to show notability, but rather one in which there was simply a lack of sources to do so. The reason for merger instead of deletion is that our deletion policy indicates that when an article fails to demonstrate notability, but there is verifiable information, the preference is to merge. The delete !votes as a group did not make a case against merger, but against the articles' separate existence. In the end, it may be little difference as the essential content of these articles appears to be present at the target, however, I will attempt to add to it any significant missing content from the articles being merged. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 01:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Afghanistan–Kosovo relations[edit]

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The articles being nominated describe trivial relations which are otherwise covered at International reaction to the 2008 declaration of independence by Kosovo. Deep searches done on the articles being nominated in this batch have not yielded any materials which would expand on these "relations" beyond the fact that non-Kosovo country recognises Kosovo. There is no evidence of notable relations between Kosovo and the countries listed in terms of political, economic, cultural, trade or transport ties. I have not touched some of the Kosovo-European country relations articles as each of those will need to be looked at on a case by case basis. Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 03:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages for the reasons presented above:

Australia–Kosovo relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Belize–Kosovo relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Burkina Faso–Kosovo relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

:Canada–Kosovo relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Colombia–Kosovo relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Costa Rica–Kosovo relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

:Iceland–Kosovo relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) :Japan–Kosovo relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Kosovo–South Korea relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Kosovo–Marshall Islands relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Kosovo–Monaco relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Kosovo–United Arab Emirates relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Kosovo–Sierra Leone relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Kosovo–Senegal relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Kosovo–San Marino relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Kosovo–Samoa relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
In my mind, they are not content forks.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 08:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment User:Tocino above has used POV wording in his opposition by referring to Kosovo as "Kosovo and Metohija" and that "they followed orders like sheep", this may be a case of WP:IDONTLIKETHIS and his comments should be removed. Ijanderson (talk) 00:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Kosovo and Metohija is the official name of the Serbian province. Keeping these worthless articles is a violation of WP:POVFORK. --Tocino 01:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is no violation. Please stop your denial of the truth.Max Mux (talk) 16:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about "they followed orders like sheep"? --ProgressiveAeternus (talk) 16:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't it save time by just requesting they be expanded rather than deletinh and starting again? On your view of wikipedia we ought to delete every stub we have because there is nothing fully adequate currently written about them. Wikipedia is an ongoing development and project, potentially article about any bilateral relations between countries are encyclopedic whatever the country and there are undoubtedly editors who will come along, see a lacking article and try to expand it, thats the principle of wikipedia and how we have grown to date. Prime example France–Kosovo relations. I suggest that somebody google to see what can be written about them, If little or nothing can be added then delete or create redirects to the parent article which is probably the best thing to do at this stage. There are hundreds of other seemingly more pointless articles by country like Togo at the 1996 Summer Olympics, Nauru at the 1996 Summer Olympics etcwhich are similar and probably less could be written about them than these Dr. Blofeld (talk) 20:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly don't believe that we have to delete every stub. On the other hand, I am not very confident that we ll have enough feedback to create a good article about Costa Rica–Kosovo relations in the next months for example. It reminds me like when someone asked to create stubs for all villages using a bot. I don't know what happened with that case. I think we have to establish some rules, similar to WP:SCHOOLS! Before establishing this, everyone was adding a school. We must reach a consensus when we think a X-Y relations article should exist. I not we end up with thousands of articles with no content. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Or rather, Wikipedia:Why should I care?. P.S. if you didn't know Blofeld's history, the village comment is unintentionally hilarious. MickMacNee (talk) 20:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No I don't know the story, I'm sorry. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Precedent decisions in virtually the same cases:

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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 01:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Barackman[edit]

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Not notable. See, for example, Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL There does not appear to be enough reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy to maintain an independent article on this topic. -- Suntag 03:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy redirect to Kinnikuman_anime-original_characters#Baracky.. chaser - t 03:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Baracky[edit]

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Not notable. A mention in one news transcript about the Baracky song is not enough information and there appears to be little to no other reliable source information. See, for example, Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL Also, there is nothing to disambiguate. What it comes down to is that there does not appear to be enough reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy to maintain an independent article on this topic. -- Suntag 03:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. The "anime character so onomatopoeiacally named" is not notable either. -- Suntag 03:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was redirect to Rickrolling. History retained if an editor wants to adapt it into the Rickrolling article, but would have to use approrpriate sources to do so. Cirt (talk) 21:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barack Roll[edit]

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Not notable. A three sentence mention in one news article is not enough information and there appears to be little to no other reliable source information. See, for example, Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL What it comes down to is that there does not appear to be enough reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy to maintain an independent article on this topic. -- Suntag 02:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. NAC. This is an WP:IAR close. Schuym1 (talk) 11:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

M.I.A.'s third studio album[edit]

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WP:NOT a crystal ball. KurtRaschke (talk) 02:55, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Crystalhammer. No one knows much about the third studio album. It might not even be released in 2009. You know how these albums are.--Xxhopingtearsxx (talk) 08:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It actually came out in August of 2007 Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 18:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake, I confused it with Paper Planes. Still no change in vote though. Nate (chatter) 04:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Non-admin closure. neuro(talk) 19:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

USS John S. McCain[edit]

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There are only two USS John S. McCain ships and they are hat noted in each of the two article on those ships. Since the two article already link directly to the other ship article, USS John S. McCain is not needed. -- Suntag 02:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 01:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

London College of Spirituality[edit]

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School is not notable: commercial institution advertised in an article without any coverage. I have not been able to find relevant and independent coverage of the subject; the links on the organization's website are to advertisements, very brief notifications of their opening, and to 'press TV' programs. Drmies (talk) 02:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 01:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reni Lane[edit]

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COI, doesn't seem to be notable. Sources don't cut it. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirps • HELP) 02:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Merge. I'll do a history merge, and everyone will remember to use the "Move" function or WP:RM so we don't have to mess with this stuff, right? :) Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 15:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seat Cupra Championship[edit]

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no need for this to be here, as there is already SEAT Cupra Championship. Cs-wolves (talk) 02:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 01:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Education Worldwide India[edit]

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Only nontrivial coverage about this educational fair is from The Tribune. That doesn't confer enough notability to erase the strong stench of promotional editing and sockpuppetry from the page's author (see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Sidjain111). Blueboy96 02:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was snowball keep. King of ♠ 23:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rob Miller (South Carolina politician)[edit]

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Candidate in a congressional election, no other claim to notability. Blueboy96 02:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  21:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

100 Greatest Cartoons[edit]

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One of those cases where the first AFD just got it completely wrong. A list of 100 items, presented in a defined order, is a copyright violation of the list. This article basically matches http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/G/greatest/cartoons/results.html in its entirety —Kww(talk) 01:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh gosh, haven't you been reading the discussion? The article isn't about the "list" itself. Nobody would mind if the list itself could be removed from the article, for this article is actually about the hard-hitting TELEVISION DOCUMENTARY that revealed, for the first time, that members of the British public enjoyed cartoons. Unlike any show of its kind before or since, "it included featuring the reminiscences of celebrities and media pundits interlaced with clips from the shows themselves." The night of 27 February 2005 will long be remembered as "when they showed that cartoon countdown was on Channel 4", and many a Briton today can tell you where he or she was on that evening. The list is irrelevant. It's about the documentary. And what a documentary it truly was. Mandsford (talk) 13:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am willing to give my point. But who said it is documentary? I've never heard of documentaries about non-scientific entertainment public polls. What sort of documentary is that? Besides the article devotes 4 lines to this documentary and then lists all 100 cartoons, therefore IMO it's a list.EconomistBR 18:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Those gnews hits are worthless, most are either reviews, reports on who got number one (both outlets owned by the same parent company no less), overnight ratings stories and not much in the way of validly proving notability. Content editing won't save this given there is no content. treelo radda 14:00, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please speak for yourself only, not an entire country. I am in the UK and disagree with your comments. Colonel Warden (talk) 15:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand. Are you saying that coverage doesn't count unless there is coverage of the coverage? --Captain Infinity (talk) 17:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand either. We both gave our reasons for a deletion, although "What, no Tooter Turtle?" is more concise than anything I can say. Mandsford (talk) 18:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep.. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 15:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Orthodox view of sin[edit]

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The content of the article does not establish that the subject is notable enough to require its own article, as opposed to content in Sin or Eastern Orthodox Church. Mrhsj (talk) 01:25, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 21:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Avatar Blue[edit]

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Non-notable band. Only a single album released. Most notable award won by the band is from the Boston Music Awards. Millbrooky (talk) 21:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Whoops, I didn't even notice this article had previously been nominated at AfD as I came to this article via Avatar blue and noticed the duplication of the articles. --Millbrooky (talk) 21:53, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Delete. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Krrish Returns[edit]

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I'm nominating Krrish Returns for deletion because it fails WP:NFF.There is no single source available on Internet to say 'Krrish Returns' production has started.i've heard somewhere, script of the film is ready.but i'm not sure about film production has begun.official website is dubious. WinningSpecialist (talk) 00:55, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep Consensus is overwhelming, and there is no policy reason (eg BLP) not to follow that.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 10:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of United States presidents by handedness[edit]

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I want to say arbitrary listing, but as it has... something... I can not. It does however appear to be quite possibly the most blatant case of this quote: even if it is sourced, and it is factual, does not necessarily mean it requires an article on wikipedia –– Lid(Talk) 00:24, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - recent revisions lead me to believe this article is not a mere collection of indiscriminate information, but a viable article. Nice rescue in my opinion. Mitico (talk) 14:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete. That's all. Keep--this is a difference of day and night; we now have an article, not a list. Kudos. Drmies (talk) 02:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC) *Delete Honestly, it seems like a bunch of original research and unnecessary information to me. Even though it's referenced. It looks like it really would belong better on a blog or a website for these types of facts and not on Wiki. LadyGalaxy 03:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I am very impressed by the progress that has taken place in this article, which leads to my change of mind. At first I thought it was a useless list, but now several sources have been supplied. All the sources are reliable and meet Wikipedian standards, being newspaper articles as they are. I poked around in the edit history, expecting to see dozens of edits... but I see that all it took were a few to clean this article up. If we keep it, then it can be expanded and it will contribute to the community. LadyGalaxy 22:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
.I do think Mitico raises a fair point, but we could probably limit the scope of the article to the presidents who are known to be left-handed, or generally suspected to be left handed. Article is shaping up nicely. Good work! Keep. Zagalejo^^^ 07:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*Merge It is interesting to see that Lefties only started with Hoover and have in recent times become the norm rather than the exception. A reference to a psych/poli-sci article discussing this issue (if one exists) might then merit keeping this info here. Perhaps this should be a list of JUST lefties and ambis in either the U.S. Presidents article or Handedness itself. -Knowl -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 09:03, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


: Delete - Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Highly trivial... and as for the merge vote, a.) where would we be merging to, and b.) your argument that it should be kept/merged just because it is 'interesting' is not really relevant to the discussion at hand. neuro(talk) 13:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • DYK is a good idea, but then the AfD would have to be ended before it becomes intelligible. It seems to be trending towards "keep", but this'll be the closing admin's decision. Lampman (talk) 16:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Maybe the title is the problem - some thoughts about this on the talk page. Lampman (talk) 18:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If we get multiple news articles discussing their preferences and the reasons for them, why not? Hut 8.5 13:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Note that it has been renamed to Handedness of Presidents of the United States, as per that article's talk page. Cosmic Latte (talk) 18:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Isn't there some less awkward adjective to describe a person by their left/right hand use? I certainly don't know it, but I would guess that it exists. But the new title is an improvement, thanks for the heads up. Protonk (talk) 19:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There might be a better word, but I can't think of it either, and thesaurus.com isn't being very helpful. :-/ Cosmic Latte (talk) 19:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Perhaps whatever in this article is useful should be merged in one of the handedness articles. Personally, I am now researching material for an article on Handedness of Princes of Wales. --Crusio (talk) 17:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wales don't have hands. -- Suntag 19:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus is clear, and there's no reason to keep this hanging around.chaser - t 03:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Guglielmucci[edit]

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Fails WP:BLP1E: "Wikipedia is not a newspaper. The bare fact that someone has been in the news does not in itself imply that they should be the subject of an encyclopedia entry. Where a person is mentioned by name in a Wikipedia article about a larger subject, but essentially remains a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having an article on them.". Besides lying to the press and his congregation about having cancer, and then confessing to a pornography addiction, he is entirely non-notable. Tan | 39 00:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. King of ♠ 23:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Darren McKillion[edit]

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Non-notable amateur sportsperson, fails WP:BIO. GNUSMAS : TALK 09:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Protonk (talk) 06:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A Tale of Egypt[edit]

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Appears to be a non-notable, straight to video cartoon; I couldn't find anything like substantial coverage on Google. Prod removed without comment. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 19:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I use to own a copy. User:Jet556 —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Comment - I cannot see how owning a copy would be in any way relevant to this discussion. DARTH PANDAtalk 00:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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If I use my memory I can put the plot in. User:Jet556 —Preceding undated comment was added at 02:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Comment - If notability cannot be established, inserting a plot will not help the article. Please see Wikipedia:Notability (films) (as per Nrswanson). DARTH PANDAtalk 02:24, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its made by a minor animation studio so of course there is not much information. User:Jet556 —Preceding undated comment was added at 14:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

That is why there shouldn't be an article on it. Schuym1 (talk) 14:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rakasiya[edit]

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Fails Wikipedia:Notability (Geographic locations) Option Two and/or needs very drastic improvements per Option Three. In addition, sources are not cited and I cannot find the place through Google at all. Finally, at least half of the article is in a different language. DARTH PANDAtalk 20:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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