The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable minor league player, per WP:BASEBALL. Truest blue 00:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable minor league player, per WP:BASEBALL. Truest blue 00:11, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable software. No sources provided that are not affiliated with this software. --Hdt83 Chat 00:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. Jaranda wat's sup 06:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable minor league player, per WP:BASEBALL. Truest blue 23:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result wasSpeedy keep on withdrawal of nomination.
Non-notable minor league player, per WP:BASEBALL. Truest blue 23:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus due to lack of meaningful discussion. Who is Norm? Sandstein 21:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Notability to come. Chealer 22:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was technically no consensus, since none of the opinions here are particularly helpful (see WP:ATA), but I speedy deleted it per WP:CSD#G11. Sandstein 21:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Notability to come. Chealer 20:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was No consensus Arguments for merge, keep and delete present. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The notability of the subject is very low, not an important nor famous person and per My cleanup project I have vowed to rid of articles like this one. The sunder king 14:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 23:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Crystalballing, no verifiable information available. east.718 at 07:48, July, 2007
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 23:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails Notability guidelines for music, fails verifiability. See WP:MUSIC#Songs. Perhaps some information in this article should be merged with Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (soundtrack)
The result was speedy keep I will not allow a single-purpose account to drag us into another debate on this article, given the overwhelming sentiment that notability is established. Shalom Hello 00:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A magnet for edit warring, trivia, random unreliable sources that just mention the site. Original research from primary sources. Tezza2 23:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC) — Tezza2 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
The result was No consensus Arguments for delete, keep and merge are presented and the positions of the three are not well reconcilable at this time. The determination of how related the terms Chindia and Chindian are is not resolved and is central to the disposition of the two terms. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Apparent neologism - the only source I trust in the list of four only mentions the term in passing. Will (talk) 07:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As an aside, I note that you are encouraged to assume good faith on Wikipedia something you freely admit you refused to do - that's nearly as rude as accusing me of bad faith. Please, let's keep some civility to these discussions. Bigdaddy1981 06:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. The "keep" opinions are rather thin on policy; see WP:ATA. Sandstein 21:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
no assertion of notability, orphan Will (talk) 07:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable couple that are so-called "stars" of a web forum about Manchester United, perhaps better known for web-streamed sex shows. No independent sources to speak of, no verification, no way this article should stay. Contested prod. Realkyhick 22:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This page needs to be left open, they will be minor celebrities before long - long may they last! (a scouser)
Two of the biggest stars in their field with many thousands of supporters in the european arena
I think the article should stay. In Manchester, Tonny and Tanya are well knownand respected figures. As it says in the article, fans have sung about themat games. I don't know how to prove that, but if you were to ask any Mancunian Manchester United fan, they would back this up. Vaz21 12:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article must stay. I am sure that Robert Tressell was considered insignificant at one time. I have heard their names sung by thousands. As the football season unfolds their noteriety will rise exponentially untill Tonny and Tanya take their rightful place as king and queen of Manchester. — Stured (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Wiki mods, have it in your hearts to keep this page.. Vaz21 16:58, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It really isnt that bad. Its better than some of the other articles out there and it has more sources, categories, attention than alot of the other ones... so give it a break eh? Ryanovski 04:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
--Eivind Kjørstad 11:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. Carlossuarez46 20:58, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable term. No reputable sources that verify whether this is notable. See WP:NOT a dictionary. --Hdt83 Chat 22:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 07:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are zero Ghits for "neuropsychodynamic therapy". The sources are blogspot and myspace. Hoax? There are also only three Ghits for the "renowned" "Genesis Recovery Clinic". Corvus cornix 22:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus. --Coredesat 05:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A magnet for edit warring, trivia, random unreliable sources and ridiculous original research. The United Kingdom section of our article Second city contains everything that needs to be said on this topic. ⁿɡ͡b Nick Boalch\talk 22:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete — Caknuck 16:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To quote from the article lede: "Matt McInerney is the founder of social networking site Gleamd. Gleamd is a new social bookmarking site where instead of voting on stories or links, you vote for people based on their bios. Gleamd has been growing quickly since its launch a mere two weeks ago, and has already attracted investment." Only sources are blogs and PR sites, and Gleamd appears to still be in beta testing. NawlinWiki 21:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What other sources are needed? The blogs are notable ones, Mashable and Downloadsquad. Does it need to be in print? Andweallfalldown 21:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Reliable publications are those with an established structure for fact-checking and editorial oversight." Both Mashable and Downloadsquad have an established structure for fact-checking and editorial oversight. And Wired (magazine) was also mentioned as a sourceAndweallfalldown 22:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Added a PodTech interview as a source Andweallfalldown 22:24, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Non-admin closure of a nearly unanimous (and correct) result. Shalom Hello 20:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. Carlossuarez46 20:58, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unsourced article about supposed upcoming single. No information provided at all really. - eo 20:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable mall, fails WP:RS. Nothing special about it. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 20:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Speedy keep. While a merge can be an outcome of an AfD, deletion is the primary use. AfD should not be used to discuss an article where deletion is not a possibility. A talk page discussion with a link on WP:PM will suffice. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 20:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article is mostly comprised of the same information as the Internet Explorer article and related articles. Themodernizer 20:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable mall in North Carolina. Sub-stub class and has never been improved. Mall doesn't even seem to have a website so I doubt that it's notable in any way. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 20:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable strip mall. I doubt it could ever be notable, given that its largest tenants are a supermarket and a Blockbuster. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 20:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. --Coredesat 05:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable actress. 10 roles in 3 years, including one TV series that lasted only 5 episodes. Fails WP:BIO, WP:V, WP:N, WP:RS, etc. Valrith 19:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Staggeringly non-notable improv comedy group in Ireland. Yields 57 hits in the Google Test. It claims to have won and ISDA award, which would mean something, except that ISDA stands for the Irish Student Drama Association. Consequentially 19:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Redirect to World War I per nom. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 21:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is basically just a term used to describe World War I. No valuable information to keep, all that is necessary is to add the term to the WWI article. See !vote below. J-stan TalkContribs 19:45, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus, therefore article kept. -- Visviva 15:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Half Category:Deaths by tuberculosis, and half the trivial equivalent. Best served by the existing category, and not this long, rambling directory. Eyrian 19:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
I like the idea of "Diarrhea in history" as an article.... Mandsford 01:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable Canadian politician. She's a town councilor in Arkham, Ontario, and draws 158 hits on the Google test -- half as many as I do. Consensus for local politicians is that they have to have done something individually notable, local-officeholding by itself is not a qualification for inclusion Consequentially 19:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. — TKD::Talk 03:36, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable performer. No sources provided in over a year. Fails all criteria for inclusion (WP:MUSIC, WP:RS, WP:V, WP:N, WP:BIO). Valrith 18:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia collection, often with entries that use only the name. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. Users worried about the main article should know that I watch it and will keep it clean. Eyrian 18:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was keep—users have shown that the article has potential and does not take the form of an indiscriminate list. The article is also already sourced, which is a solid start. — Deckiller 14:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia collection, avoiding any of the serious issues concerning modern understanding of culturally-different mythology. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. Eyrian 18:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was userfiy to User:AndyJones userspace and delete. Jaranda wat's sup 23:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia collection, often consisting of name-only references. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. Users worried about the main article should know that I watch it and will keep it clean. Eyrian 18:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was delete, not userfying. --Coredesat 05:51, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia collection, consisting of straightforward, trivial usage of the appropriate myths. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. Users worried about the main article should know that I watch it and will keep it clean. Eyrian 18:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was delete. Accusing participants in an AFD of having a certain point of view is not a reason to keep an article. --Coredesat 05:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia collection. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. As a cultural phenomenon, the main article does an excellent job of containing scholarly commentary. Users worried about the main article should know that I watch it and will keep it clean. Eyrian 18:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unacceptable trivia list, per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. The actual cultural impact is already covered in the main article. Eyrian 18:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was delete—as users have stated, the article in its current state is an indiscriminate list of fictional appearances; the article fails to show why the Triangle's popular culture references are notable as a whole, and no user has listed sources. Obviously, the article will be userfied per Andy's request. — Deckiller 14:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unacceptable trivia collection, per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. Since the Triangle is fundamentally a cultural phenomenon, the main article already possesses all the scholarly and citable analysis. What is left is what we have here: detritus --Eyrian 18:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was Keep - unanimous decision after references were provided. Non admin closure --L-- 12:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
His mother and grandfather seem to be his only claim to notability. On his own, he fails WP:BIO. Jauerback 18:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Delete. Notability is not inherited. The article is also spammy (external link - the guy's blog). Both interwiki links are bogus. Very possibly a vanity/COI case here. --Targeman 19:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. Carlossuarez46 21:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The topic would be better served by just a disambiguation page. As it is, the article is just a bit of etymology (that should probably be shunted to Wiktionary) and a few links to other pages. Given that "chaos" has been used in so many contexts and with so many meanings, it seems impossible to unify the subject without doing OR. Jordansc 17:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article is Unsourced, violates WP:NEO and most of this is covered in Netiquette, and List of Internet slang phrases Gorkymalorki 17:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable record label that fails to establish notabilty. All of it's roster are made up of Myspacecore bands, who again fail to establish their own notability. I'm pretty sure this has been speedily deleted in the past, but I can't find a link to it. Lugnuts 17:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 23:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if the red-linked award claimed is not a major one, given its red-link that's probably so, not notable per WP:MUSIC, also note that the primary author is User:CR music who by coincidence of name may have a WP:COI. There are about 150 ghits for "Christiaan Richter", mostly about a chemical engineer and nanotechnologist (if that's a word), but a few about this guy too. Carlossuarez46 17:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 23:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails to establish notability, non-notable label only seems to have success distributing music via iTunes. Lugnuts 17:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, and you failed to acknowledge iTunes as a distributor and Brandon Beals fame as an artist. By not considering that a source. This is what is really all about. Listen, I read some of all of the articles you created, appreciated and informative, but some where of completely unknown Swedish film people and never heard even for a Swedish person myself. Just be careful as active as you are in Wiki world, to steer straight and dont get beside yourself of how you define "encyclopedic", lognuts. You clearly demonstrates lack of knowledge with US labels, and you adjust you little world of definitions to that. (Oncewereviking 18:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]
It was a small mention but nevertheless establishes notability. PS I looked up MMG on Wikipedia after reading the article. BritBoy J
The result was delete, major WP:COI and WP:RS problems not addressed. --Coredesat 05:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note to admins: This AfD has no consensus, as we have an editor who is possibly a spammer, violating WP:COI as he seemingly has an involvement with an agency which sponsors the tournament which is the subject of the article in question. Also, a suspected Sock has voiced xyr opinion. J-stan TalkContribs 22:52, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
--- The issue of deletion should be based on whether the article is WORTHY of inclusion in Wikipedia and if it is WRITTEN in a NEUTRAL point of view. 'World Pong Tour' is a company which is notable, cited with several 3rd party sources. In addition, the article is written in a NEUTRAL point of view. It is not being used as a promotion tool. The article is what wikipedia strives to accomplish: provide a collection of neutral information about a topic which would aid a researcher in an investigation of the subject. If you look at the beer pong article, World Pong Tour has been listed as a notable 'tournament/league' for some time now. Why is it notable? If it is notable does it not merit it's own article instead of paragraphs of extra information in the article about the game itself? MLB is not merged with baseball for the same reason. Edit World Pong Tour if you feel there are outstanding COI problems within its text, but to delete this article is just ridiculous.---
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Non-notable beer pong tour. Conflict of interest problems. The Evil Spartan 17:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 05:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Despite the claims, this WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY is not of a notable artist. Quite simply put, it fails WP:MUSIC. The Evil Spartan 17:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete as nn corp and spam. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 19:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable organization, written with a conflict of interest The Evil Spartan 17:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was redirect to Workforce planning. Sandstein 21:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable neologism that has already been transwikied. No references to demonstrate widespread usage, or going above and beyond a definition. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 17:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was redirect to James Bond (films) as film does not meet requirements for WP:MOVIE (it has not yet entered the production phase). ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
An article at this title was already deleted because of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bond 23; it has been reposted and a speedy requested as WP:CSD#G4. I however think this article is significantly different than the deleted one to justify a full discussion. In particular, some sources have been added. IMO, it is still crystalballery, but some people disagree. See talk page of the article for rationale. Tizio 16:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Keep As almost certain to take place and with some verified information in the article. Davewild 07:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC) Based on the comments below and after reviewing the relevant guideline changing to Merge to James Bond (films) until filming starts. Davewild 22:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus for deletion. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia collection, consisting of brief and irrelevant references, without any kind of citation or analysis to be seen. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE ("Wikipedia is not a trivia collection") and WP:NOT#IINFO. Eyrian 16:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was no consensus to delete. And I don't really see one to merge either... but that's harder to tell from an AFD. W.marsh 04:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As bigfoot is solely a cultural phenomenon, the main article already possesses all the scholarly and citable analysis. What is left is what we have here: a trivia collection, consisting of minor references, common subjects, and one-off jokes. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. Eyrian 16:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
*Comment I split off this [reply]
pile of old tut list to help reduce the overlong Bigfoot article (as per WP:SIZE), and I don't give a stuff about its continued existence. Do as you will. Totnesmartin 16:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was delete, no sources for the purchase. Jaranda wat's sup 23:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Internet persona created on livejournal, the rights to which were purchased by Comedy Central, and never created into a series. Fails WP:N outside of livejournal circles (and therefore WP:WEB), unreferenced, no google news hits for purchase of site. Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 16:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia, trivia, trivia. Straightforward, minor references to the mythological beast. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. Eyrian 16:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Subject does not meet guidelines for notability as listed in WP:BIO. 6thAvenue 16:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
“ | A person is generally notable if they meet any of the following standards. Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; however, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.
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Proofs, all from Google news. Many more on normal Google. He was just on CSPAN only last night. How can you argue he's not notable? Link#1 and Link#2 and Link#3 and Link#4 and Link#5 and Link#6 and Link#7 Seven is enough. It's a lucky number too. Mike Stark might be the next Michael Moore for his 'Gonzo Journalism'. Bmedley Sutler 22:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unacceptable trivia collection (WP:FIVE: "Wikipedia is not a trivia collection"), far overshadowed by the main article in relevance and citation. Eyrian 16:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was no consensus for deletion. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unacceptable trivia collection per WP:FIVE and WP:NOT#IINFO. Public perception is well covered in the main article; this is just a bunch of one-off jokes. Eyrian 16:24, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable fanfilm. It exists, but no assertations of notability, and no independent third party references or citations. Delete. TheRealFennShysa 16:23, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Strong keep. Reliable sources are TheForce.net. I'll provide more reliable sources to conform it as notability. --Bryan Seecrets 19:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus for deletion. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia collection, imparting no greater knowledge of the subject, just a list of trivial mentions. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE ("Wikipedia is not a trivia collection") and WP:NOT#IINFO. Eyrian 16:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was no consensus for deletion. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Trivial collection, unacceptable per WP:FIVE ("Wikipedia is not a trivia collection"), and WP:NOT#IINFO. Eyrian 16:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The result was keep. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:41, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A terribly unencylopedic list of people who are loosely related by having made guest appearances on a TV show. Fails WP:NOT#DIR. —gorgan_almighty 15:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete all. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 07:44, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nonnotable pub darts league in Seoul, South Korea. No independent sources showing any notability. Also including all the teams in the league (listed below). NawlinWiki 15:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Also including:[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not for lists =of loosely associated topics. While some lists may be useful, "Indian women" is an impossibly broad category. Moonriddengirl 15:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*delete How about a List of everyone, and we all just have to add our own name? Pharmboy 16:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ladies and Gentlemen !
It is an important list that shall showcase the incredible range of the achievements of Indian women and shall inspire young omen to be leaders and achievers in their field. The Wikipedia is not only an encyclopedia it is a vast showcase of human diversity as well.
I once again request that this article should not be DELETED. Please let it develop.
With kind regards,
moon 06:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Dear fellow Wikipedians , Have a heart and broader outlook too ( pun intended ) I am new to Wikipedia and am greatly impressed by lists that constitute it. And I guess there might many more people like me. I say the policy should be flexible enough to accomodate the changing aspirations of the clientele. SO PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THIS ! Give it a chance. Vive La Wikipedia.Vive La Diversity. moon 10:49, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway let us now sleep. Happy dreams! Goodnight. moon 17:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think broadly speaking Wikipedians come in two categories : those who are content providers and those who are editors and give shape to formats.
I am proud to be one of the former but have a deep respect for people like you who are doing an equally important work. We need to have Mutual Respect for each other.
My strong belief is that certain Wiki Lists are maintained by conscientious and passionate people who have a sense of "emotional ownership" to certain subjects.
This passion and emotional ownership helps in maintaining the quality of the List.
So please let the Lists remain. As a compromise I have removed all the Red entries and henceforth shall include only those persons who already are Wikified.
Salutations from an Indian feminist.
moon 14:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
moon 16:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have modelled my list on an existing list of iranian women which was also proposed to be deleted but after a spirited defence has been allowed to continue. I think my list deserves to survive and thrive as well. Vive La Wikipedia !
moon 01:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Making and keeping Lists is a universal human trait.
Thanks though for raising my level of commitment to Wikistandards.
moon 02:46, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
moon 03:53, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your repeated quoting of chapter and verse is proof enough of your closed mind and your self appointed role as gatekeepers to the Wikipedian castle. Not that is bad all the time. It only hurts and is dysfunctional when it scares away genuine and passionate talent from making an entry into a world that they don't fully comprehend in terms of "laws" but are genuine candidates who ought to be encouraged and let in to the bastion for a better future. Please don't scare and shoo me away with all that legalese Sidatio.
Regards
moon 04:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not a Castle . It is not the preserve of a select few. It is not a closed system.
It is not a hippy democracy. It is not a regimented society.
It is made of a range of mature and reasonably rational but more flexible people who believe in working together to keep the Wikipedia growing and glowing .
Please Leave the Lists alone.Vive La Wikipedian Spirit.
moon 04:33, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is a FREEencyclopedia it is not a freeENCYCLOPEDIA.
I ain't a lawyer. I am just a passionate Wikipedian.
Long live the Lists. Long live the FREE WIKIPEDIA.
moon 04:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sidatio has been bold enough to concede in a similar attempt to delist the List of Iranian women which also means that List of Indian women also survives intact from a well meaning attempt to delist and categorize it.
moon 05:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Regards.
moon 06:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On this conciliatory note I sign off.
moon 06:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
moon 16:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
PS : The viability of list should be left to the "market forces". Wikipedia admin may consider an automated delisting of archaic articles that are not visited , improved, edited for a certain period of time. This de-listing would be automatic ,genuine and largely unbiased.
moon 07:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. —Kurykh 23:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Original Research Pharmboy 15:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:N and WP:CORP. Jauerback 15:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete and redirect to dementia. --Coredesat 06:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Metal band from Bangladesh. Main sources are official site and myspace. Unreferenced, contains original research and fails WP:MUSIC. Delete and redirect to dementia unless notability can be established. Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 15:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Listcruft of red linked, USA-centric defunct non-notable shopping malls. The list itself is getting out of hand and is "unlimited and/or unmaintainable". Tomj 14:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus. Jaranda wat's sup 23:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:N and WP:CORP. Jauerback 14:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus, but leaning toward keep, so keep. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:N and WP:CORP. Jauerback 14:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no claim to notability--Victor falk 15:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:N and WP:CORP. Jauerback 14:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no claim to notability--Victor falk 15:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. I wanted to close this as a no consensus but the article is a straight copyright violation of the promoter's website. No prejudice against recreation although it should probably be sent back swiftly to AfD. Pascal.Tesson 04:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As with all the other malls up for AFD today, this fails WP:CORP and WP:N. Jauerback 14:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no claim to notability--Victor falk 15:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete as a copyright infringement.-Wafulz 14:51, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Another "mall" that fails WP:CORP and WP:N. Jauerback 14:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no claim to notability--Victor falk 15:45, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was redirect to dBase#Origins. --Coredesat 06:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This language doesn't come close to meeting WP:N. Looks like it was up for Speedy Deletion before, but the article's creator deleted the tag himself. So, I feel this is probably the best course of action Jauerback 14:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Blatant self-promotion Ian Spackman 13:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. --Coredesat 06:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
All of these malls fail WP:N and WP:CORP. Creator probably has a case of WP:COI, since all he/she is doing is creating articles about malls. Jauerback 13:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Delete as per nom Harlowraman 23:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
I am also nominating the following related pages because they also fail WP:N and WP:CORP:
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Note: Moved to the talk page a huge number of references that I previously posted here, so as to make the AfD more streamlined and readable. Mathmo Talk 10:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. Moreover, I'm curious how the author defines "non-Russian" and why were these particular players chosen. Conscious 13:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Local Martial Arts organisation, no assertion of notability Nate1481( t/c) 13:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This footballer has never played at a professional level, which is required by WP:BIO. Prod contested by article's creator without further explanation ChrisTheDude 13:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:BIO requires competitors to "...have played in a fully professional league...". Nicky Greene has not. --Malcolmxl5 20:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article had been prod'd a second time; moving to AfD instead. Issue is the lack of references (WP:V) and lack of assertion of notability (WP:N) Marasmusine 13:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete per G12 and A7. The incident which occurred in the mall (which appears notable) may be recreated quite easily under an article name appropriate to general usage, but a minor shopping centre really should be documented in the suburb within which it falls, or perhaps on the major road on which it falls. Orderinchaos 13:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:ORG and WP:N miserably. Jauerback 13:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus. Jaranda wat's sup 23:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redundant disambiguation page. More like a table of contents. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete due to current lack of sources. No prejudice against re-creation if sources appear in the future, but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. — TKD::Talk 07:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A biography about an individual who does not meet biography notability guidelines. Couldn't find enough reliable sources for verification. I also couldn't find any notable book reviews, despite the claims the article makes.[32] Wafulz 13:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:59, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of collective noun definitions. Without sources. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:59, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of collective noun definitions. Without sources. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redundant disambiguation page. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of collective noun definitions. Lacking sources. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of collective noun definitions. Without sources. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of collective noun definitions. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Links to pages of lists of collective nouns. No real need for disambiguation here. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep, huge amount of sourcing available, i.e. [33],[34], and [35] which is sourced against Webster's/OED. Appears to conform with WP:SAL.ELIMINATORJR 23:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of collective noun definitions. Without sources. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of collective noun definitions. Without sources. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:13, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please take any Transwiki discussions to the appropriate talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A list of collective noun definitions, without sources. Nicholas Perkins (T•C) 13:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Please defer merge related discussion to article talk. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The only thing clear about this search engine is that it's profitable for the creator. Data already in the article appear to show that the energy saving is an illusion. These facts suggest that blackle.com will not be around for the long haul, and is thus not encyclopedic. Only one newspaper article. The other sources don't refer to blackle.com itself, or are not independent of the creator. EdJohnston 12:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Delete: Google hits aside, most of them seem to point to blogs - even the WSJ write-up is on their blog. It's a novel concept, but novelty doesn't equal notability. Sidatio 13:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
MyTigers 18:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Concerns remain that this list is too broad compared to more focused options. That said, if any users or WikiProjects want to adopt this list to work on more clearly defined alternatives, or to use as a watchlist for Special:Recentchangeslinked, I'll be happy to undelete it in user or project space. — TKD::Talk 06:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The list is too long to be useful, it extends well beyond the boundaries of the article title making it of little use, the article title gives two quite separate areas, and the category system suffices for what this list does. Alan Liefting 11:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The project has not been updated in two years. In its current state, it is a non-functional, pointless replacement to SPSS, only being able to run two statistical tests. There are plenty of programs floating around that can run a t-test and ANOVA (which it can only run as an one-way analysis). The only claim to fame for this page is that it is a part of the GNU project. dr.alf 11:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. —Kurykh 23:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Promotional, removed several times by me from Gmod. Delete. - Mike Rosoft 11:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. —Kurykh 23:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
About an avant-garde and revolutionary piece of theatre, written by Marty Pilkiewicz (a student). After a detailed plot summary and much other fascinating material, the article ends on a bathetic note: The play was awarded a disappointingly low mark for the students' [sic] Practical Module (56) which is widely attributed to Dr Grant's personal antipathy towards the play as well as the snobbishness of the external examiners who preferred more conservative and abstract theatre. My sympathies, but I'm not convinced that the play is notable. This was prodded, since which time the original author did not remove the prod notice but did amend the article in small ways; I took this to imply a desire to retain the article, removed the prod, and, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, leave its fate in your hands. Hoary 10:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Snowball delete, and re-direct to Unilever. Acalamari 23:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contested prod. Unidentified vandal with a mention in a local community newspaper, doesn't meet notability guidelines. Seems to be written by a friend or the vandal himself (mentions 'close sources', etc) Darksun 10:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was no consensus to delete, default to keep. Sandstein 21:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article is a memorial to those Coalition soldiers killed in Iraq, 2006. Wikipedia is explicitly not a memorial. It has no encyclopaedic content other than a big long list of names and ranks.
It's also a pretty much word for word copy and paste of the monthly lists presented by CNN ([41] and so on), plus a copy and paste of the names (here).
The article was nominated for deletion back in January, when the debate was closed as "no consensus", despite the debate being pretty clearly in favour of deletion. It was closed as "no consensus" to allow for transwikification (is that the word?); it's now been 7 months and that still hasn't happened. Delete, definitely fails WP:NOT, possibly WP:COPYVIO. Neil ╦ 10:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not a memorial.--Victor falk 11:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedily deleted as hoax (as well as a bunch of other self-admitted hoax articles). Neil ╦ 11:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
We do not need articles to describe, what a Prime Minister of a certain area usually does. ~Iceshark7 10:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedily deleted as hoax. Neil ╦ 11:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Same reason as above. ~Iceshark7 10:24, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep. Carlossuarez46 21:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is part of a series of article recently created by EliasAlucard (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log), including Syriac Assyrians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Some users have expressed the concern that this article reflects the views of politicised group and denies the views of others. The article name itslef expresses this view. Some of the material can be rewritten and included in more appropriate articles, but this article is clearly biased. — Gareth Hughes 22:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was redirect to Nicolette—information has been merged. — Deckiller 17:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. — TKD::Talk 06:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Reading this article, it seems that this man certainly deserves his own article. - Anyone who is the "Father of Hollywood" sounds interesting to me - all the web searches I did for "Hobart Johnstone Whitley" and "Hobart Whitley" show nothing at all of use.Possibly good sources refer to Whitley Heights, but have copied Wikipedia's page on it. So I think this is a hoax. Either that or I'm missing something Moglex 18:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep in rewritten, disambiguation form. — TKD::Talk 04:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is no such thing as Khinchin's theorem. The trivial property of cdf mentioned in the article has been known long before Khinchin and is not related to Khinchin in any way (Igny 01:08, 2 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]
The result was Snowball keep, really obvious consensus to keep here. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 19:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:CORP due to lack of sources; listing after expert review (see talk page). The article has previously survived PROD. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 09:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. Carlossuarez46 22:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article is totally a crystal ball article because 2011 venue still not decided Aleenf1 09:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable minor league player, per WP:BASEBALL. Truest blue 06:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Note, however, that, per WP:RSEX, Wikipedia articles aren't reliable sources, so citations for this list would be a good idea in general; per WP:V and WP:BLP, they would be required for challenged material or contentious material about living people. — TKD::Talk 05:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Requesting deletion based on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_sportspeople_by_nickname due to BLP concerns Corpx 06:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What is this? Seems like a non-notable story, in any case I couldn't find info on the 'Net. Primary author removed csd : [50] Kl4m 06:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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That's odd that you couldn't find anything on Desolation's Angels on the 'Net. I just did a Google search and they came back as the number one entry on that search engine. That should be reason enough not to delete this page.User:HaarFager 2.10 a.m., 2 August 2007
Addendum: I just found out why this page is slated for deletion and I'm no sock puppet or whatever that is. True, I'm a fairly new user, within the last year or so, but I still don't know exactly what I'm doing at times. The help files can be confusing at times, so please bear with me. I'm trying to learn this format.User:HaarFager 2.16 a.m., 2 August 2007
I'm the author of this page and I only have one question. I don't see any difference between this Desolation's Angels page and the page you have on Star Trek. They are both about futuristic science fiction stories. Here's my question: Is the Star Trek page slated for deletion next? And, if not, why not?PaulLatimer 07:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
From what I'm reading, this particular page is thought to be a "single-purpose account." Doesn't the fact that I already edited your page on "Butterfly" by uploading a picture of a "Common Buckeye" and changing the lesser quality image you had there conclude that that is a purpose in and of itself? How can my account be considered "single-purpose" then, by the definition you use? Just a thought. It looks like my page is going to bite the big one, but I just wanted to let you know I'm not a one-trick pony.PaulLatimer 16:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to join this conversation for just a short moment. I will simply say my piece and leave. I am the creator of Desolation's Angels. I am not here to beg for it to be salvaged, quite the opposite actually. I ask you to delete it before the five day period. You are all correct. It does not belong in your Encyclopedia. The only reason it was put here was because I enjoyed Wiki so much I thought: "You know, I would like to see what I have spent my life creating in there." I apologize because I did not realize the myriad rules. I should have read them before suggesting the idea. It is not notable to you, it is only notable to those who create it, and those who hear and enjoy it. So please, let us end the debate on this today and let the page die. We will meet again when we are notable to you. Until then I wish you all the very best. -Matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Momega (talk • contribs) 09:40, 3 August 2007
The result was redirected to relevant article. See discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Milosevic. Non-admin close by Flyguy649 talk contribs 03:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hoax by same creator as David Milosevic below. Claim of winning Olympic gold medal for Bosnia in 4x200m relay, but apparently the US team won that particular event. The primary hit on google is for Nemanja Jovanović a redirect to that article would also be OK. Carlossuarez46 05:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep.. CitiCat ♫ 14:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Band doesn't appear to be notable. They calim to be, opening for lots of big acts, but searching them on Google for their name or their name + music or +africa/+music turns up nil. So no coverage, and not much notability. Delete. Freedomeagle 05:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete There is no site-wide consensus that all malls are inherently notable (unlike countries and towns, for which there is such a consensus), and several indications of a contrary consensus. Neither the article nor the the discussion indicate any particular reasonwhy this specific mall is any more notable than any other mall. The cited references show only that this mall exists, they say nothing about it. This is not what WP:N means by "significant coverage" or "more than trivial" discussion. (Google news searches reveal no sources, either). The statement "one of the first super centers in NZ" might be a reason for notability, but it is neither sourced nor even included in the article. If WP:CSD#A7 applied to malls, this would fit. However, it is possible that a valid article could be created on this subject. There is no bar to creating a well-sourced article, and i am willing to userfy this article if anyone asks for it. DES (talk) 15:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-exceptional shopping center with no claim to notability CitiCat ♫ 05:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Speedy delete (CSD G3). Dballer16 has been indef blocked, Nemanja Jovanovic has been redirected to a pertinent article. — Caknuck 06:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Was tagged for speedy, but no criteria apply: Possible hoax, the links don't support the content, according to sports illustrated, the Sacto Kings didn't draft 14th overall in the 2006 draft, but drafted 19th and in any event didn't draft Milosevic. [52] A google search produced a few David Milosevics but none a NBA player, but given google's and various web page author's less than perfect use of the diacritcs, some very small doubt remains. Carlossuarez46 05:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Keep A good example of the kind of situation where google cannot be the main method of research. DES (talk) 15:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable person. ~ Wikihermit 04:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As a historical bishop he would be notable, but the article would need references to support that. Agathoclea 06:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
--Boson 19:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]"Felix ESCHER, Art. Dietrich von Man (OPraem) († 1385). 1370-1385 Bischof von Havelberg, in: Erwin GATZ (Hg.), Clemens BRODKORB (Mitarb.), Die Bischöfe des Heiligen Römischen Reiches 1198 bis 1448. Ein biographisches Lexikon, Berlin 2001, 1, S. 236"
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Lots of reasons - I think non-notable self promotion. It was tagged for notability before, then for copyright violation which isn't being resolved.Peter Rehse 04:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was No Consensus. DES (talk) 14:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable church/location. ~ Wikihermit 04:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete, asserts no notability. Sr13 is almost Singularity 04:12, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non notable book ~ Wikihermit 04:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The criteria for inclusion is "containing" as well as "about" making this another indiscriminate "about" list. Bulldog123 04:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
etc. Truth be told , there are quite a few great films that truly are ABOUT capital punishment, in that they contribute to the debate... the film adaptation of Melville's Billy Budd, The Green Mile, 12 Angry Men, etc. The table listing the year it came out and the director doesn't improve anything. When you include the cubic zirconia, you can't see the diamonds. Mandsford 17:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 23:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Highly arbitrary and unusual list. Jesus of Nazareth in the same list as Edith Stein? Should we split these lists into every possible ethnic division? What is "background"? A father? A mother? A convert? No discernable criteria or point. Bulldog123 04:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
* Merge to Religious conversion, splitting the list to put each person under the appropriate sub-heading. All these people appear to be notable, so there's no problems there. —gorgan_almighty 14:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Changed my opinion, see below. —gorgan_almighty 15:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was: Speedily deleted - blatant spam. - Mike Rosoft 12:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Special:Log shows article was deleted Feb 11, 2007 by User:CambridgeBayWeather "Prod: No concrete proof of notability. Spam." I tried to speedy it, but it was rejected since it may have become notable in the past 7 months and a consensus is now required. Google returned nothing but blogs and Flickr images. It appears to be a non-notable art form. The page was created by a WP:SPA. I am falling back on the original deletion: "No concrete proof of notability. Spam." --Old Hoss 04:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. — TKD::Talk 05:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
contested deletion tag, would be likely contested prod as well. author claims that the game is notable and provides some weblinks on the talk page, but those don't appear to be mainstream or reliable sources, but I'm not an online gamer, so maybe these are their bibles. Carlossuarez46 04:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 04:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Again, a collection of bad WP:TRIVIA Bulldog123 04:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete, CSD G7, author requested deletion. Sean William @ 13:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
unproven pet theory, original research; prod contested, moving to afd NeilN 04:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOT#IINFO and extreme WP:OR and tons of bad trivia Bulldog123 03:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sandstein 21:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete was tagged for deletion; creator removed the tag. Unsourced article about a planned amusement park. "The location of this park is either questionable, or just not being released to the public. No webpage or website of any kind has been found about the park." and some speculation about why nothing is known and what types of rides it may have. WP:CRYSTAL seems to apply here, even if some sourcing could be found. Carlossuarez46 04:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 04:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Another bad, brief In Popular Culture article composed completely of trivia. Bulldog123 03:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete without prejudice against re-creation with sourced material. — TKD::Talk 05:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nn business, fails WP:CORP. Carlossuarez46 03:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. Carlossuarez46 22:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:BIO. Does not have the necessary significant credits in significant projects required. Otto4711 03:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete - article deleted by Jimfbleak. - Smerdis of Tlön 15:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
These articles are virtually identical. They cite no sources, seem to be original research, and may constitute advertising. Also, very little assertion of notability.
Here's the other article that I'm nominating:
-- aBSuRDiST -T ☺ C- 03:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Vanity article for a non-notable local political candidate. Speedy tag was removed without explanation by an anon IP which has made no other edits. --Finngall talk 03:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 23:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not notable and no references given. Pharaoh of the Wizards 03:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. --Coredesat 06:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
there is a dispute whether this is patent nonsense or a hoax, copied from Michal Papadopulos with a new title added, or a real player, if either of the first 2, it should be deleted. Carlossuarez46 03:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 04:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Virtually orphaned page; Yahoo! search came up zero; this is about a city park - not a city named "park" - whose main claim to fame was a tunnel running under it collapsed on a work train, allegedly.-Old Hoss 02:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. —Kurykh 23:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:COI has been created by the company staff and this is there only edit.Not notable and no references. Pharaoh of the Wizards 02:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 04:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete originally tagged speedy because the source was inaccurate, which is not a speedy criteria. I question the source, which I cannot access, but also whether a fully and propertly sourced list is encyclopedic, given the "sunniness" is susceptible to differing interpretations: is a minute of sunshine just before dusk = a minute at midday or said another way is the same time at the equator > than outside the tropics, and how cloud obscured must things be to no longer be "sunny". Carlossuarez46 02:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete both. — TKD::Talk 04:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nonnotable religion variant. The only source is internal and impossible to verify from the outside. The author, User:Jonathan329 and his IP address, seems to suffer from conflict of interest. Shalom Hello 02:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article made it through AFD before, because people felt it met WP:PROF, but it was a very weak article. Well, since this article's first AFD closed on August 16th, 2007, not much has changed. However, if you look at the article's creator and primary contributor, you will see that this article is a clear WP:COI violation. I'm also willing to bet that 155.247.29.45 is also Ram Mudambi, since there are no other contributions other than this article. I don't see this article ever improving, because no one cares about it, but Ram Mudambi himself. There is not a single link to the article, other than the first AFD discussion, this one, a COI page, and the creator's talk page. There are no sources, so therefore it fails WP:V as well. Jauerback 02:13, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete, podcasts aren't really WP:RS, and there isn't much more in sourcing. Jaranda wat's sup 23:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weaselwordy and unreferenced fingercruft? Prod removed by obvious SPA User:Lord of the Joust. External links references [60]. Media section shows one RS, a local newspaper in Georgia. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 02:10, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 03:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article seems to be a neologism. I found no google hits on "Punmanteau." Moonriddengirl 02:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was No consensus. There were not many people commenting here, and I considered relisting. But thsoe who did commetn dis so at soem length, and the different positions were reasonably well explored. I doubt that relistign would significantly cahnge the result. DES (talk) 13:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another non-notable survivor of 9/11 who has a page and shouldn't. Titanium Dragon 01:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Just surviving a terrorist attack does NOT make you notable, nor does suriviving a school shooting or anything else. Or dying in one, for that matter. Pages of such people have been deleted time and again. There are appaently a whole group of such pages, and I'm going through and nominating all such pages which need to be deleted."
The result was Speedy delete in accordance with WP:CSD#A7. Acalamari 23:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable music group. Could not find any relevant hits on Google when searching "Hip-hop barbershop" and supposed crew members. --Uthbrian (talk) 01:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. —Kurykh 23:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:COI has been created by someone close to the person or the person himself.It is there only edit.Has been unreferenced for more than 1 year(created August 2006) and lacks notabilty. Pharaoh of the Wizards 01:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. The only dissenting views were from SPA's — Caknuck 04:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Contested speedy G11 (spam). The software seems to be nonnotable, and article history reveals a likely WP:COI, but the references section is not empty. Nonetheless, once the COI would be removed, there is no evidence that a neutral article would meet inclusion criteria. Shalom Hello 01:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Its a Biotechnology company in Singapore, and one of the more notable emerging startups from Singapore in awhile. The article is neutral enough, there are other company articles on FPGA technologies which are fairly neutral and acceptable as well, including CLC_bio, Mitrionics LK Wong 04:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC) — LK Wong (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
The result was Delete — Caknuck 03:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Seem to be pure promotional. Notability unsure. -WarthogDemon 01:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. — TKD::Talk 11:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another non-notable survivor of 9/11. He is not notable, and surviving a terrorist attack does not make you notable. Titanium Dragon 01:48, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 03:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
neologism with no reliable sources Will (talk) 07:30, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. — TKD::Talk 11:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neologism. Only sources UD. Will (talk) 07:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Punkmorten 11:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neologism. First source is to UD, second source is about folding sandwiches. Will (talk) 07:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. — TKD::Talk 04:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This guy isn't notable. Meeting with the president does not make you notable, nor do his political activities - if he was more important he might, but he seems to just be a random minor person who doesn't have any notability. Titanium Dragon 01:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 03:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No assertion of notability, and page has been speedy deleted twice already. Whilst many shopping-centre articles have survived AfD, many have also been deleted; so no clear precedent. Therefore throwing this out there to see what happens. Oli Filth 01:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was No consensus, the articles will therefore be kept by default. DES (talk) 13:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Band and albums do not appear to meet WP:BAND. -WarthogDemon 01:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was merge and redirect. — TKD::Talk 03:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Minimal info not enought to ascertain notability Peter Rehse 01:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 03:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious WP:COI (author's only edit is to this article. Nonnotable per WP:BAND. Shalom Hello 01:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete, copyvio (G12). Chaser - T 22:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable musician, fails WP:MUSIC. No references at all, can't be verified. Appears to be copied and pasted from another source, and is overly promotional in tone. Contested speedy. Realkyhick 01:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete — Caknuck 03:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable author. Only work published is a fanfic on fictionpress.com called Queen of Glass. Author has no reviews and article has no notable sources - currently reads like a vanity page. Sidatio 01:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 02:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable shopping center in North Carolina. A listing of stores was removed from the article recently; however, it still fails WP:RS. Has been tagged as ((unreferenced)) since December 2006 with no improvement. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 01:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 02:12, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable shopping mall, fails WP:RS, also has some WP:OR in it. I haven't been to North Carolina, much less this mall, but it sounds like a small dying mall with nothing special about it. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 00:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. —Kurykh 23:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In violation of WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, or textbook. Article is merely a how-to guide for Datel's Games 'n Music product. ~ Danelo 00:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was keep. Jaranda wat's sup 23:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fails WP:Bio. Surviving 9/11 certainly doesn't make you notable, and there's nothing else he has done. Article is poorly sourced and has a link to his home page for no apparent reason. He is not a notable person and should not have his own article. Please note that while his name has appeared in the media, it was trivial in mention, and he is not notable. Titanium Dragon 00:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete — Caknuck 03:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contested ((prod)). Hank Green and his brother John Green, a notable young adult author, have a video blog called Brotherhood 2.0 (that was featured on YouTube this week) and Hank has a blog called Ecogeek. As you can see, both have been deleted. This article is not a speedy candidate, but I do not believe it passes WP:V or WP:NOR. Most of the information is sourced to Hank's own blogs. The other "sources" are a link showing that he was a contributor to some sort to a book published by a magazine, and an article about authors with blogs, that has a brief mention of the fact that John and Hank have a vlog. Other than the indisputable fact that the vlog exists, the rest is OR or vandalism, and it's pretty hard to sort out which is which. JayHenry 00:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Speedy delete under A7 - no sources, non-notable, and most of it's vanity. Seems someone tried to do this in May, but an editor removed the SD tag. We'll see what happens this time. Sidatio 00:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
BenL 05:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.
The result was delete.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Does not meet notablity and not referenced at all .Article created in May 2007.possibly WP:COI also appears to be created by one of his family members it is there only edit and appears to be WP:OR Pharaoh of the Wizards 00:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete. Carlossuarez46 22:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
not notable, unreferenced, fancruft Smith Jones 00:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Withdrawn by nominator (NAC). Sidatio 11:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Does not meet notability requirements; only one source, from 1997, and notability is not temporary. Ravenmasterq 00:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete under CSD-A7: Unremarkable groups and no assertion of notability. ●DanMS • Talk 00:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Appears to be a small, online social group that is not notable. I believe WP:NOT#MYSPACE applies. Article was already speedily deleted and was created over a redirect pointing to Mellon Arena. Douglasmtaylor T/C 00:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete. Carlossuarez46 02:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC) For the record, on second thought, I also blocked recreation given the logs. Carlossuarez46 02:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article fails WP:NOTABILITY, WP:CORP, WP:NOT, WP:SPAM and WP:COI. Article was created by a WP:SPA with no other edits other than promotional edits for Celent. conflict of interest editing on the article is done almost exclusively by 208.255.69.34, an IP registered to Celent Inc. The WP:SPAM abuse of Wikipedia associated with this company has been excessive, with over 12 sock SPA spam accounts and IP's adding this sites URL, see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam/2007_Archive_Jun#COI_citation_and_spam_additions_of_http:.2F.2Fspam.celent.com. Hu12 01:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 01:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable band, with one self-produced album. Was speedied as CSD A7, but the creator objected, crying political censorship, so I am throwing it to the wider community. He has provided some links at Talk:Slave whipping blasphemy to claim notability, however imho these are all forum posts and listings pages that do not actually demonstrate notability. Stormie 03:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am also nominating the following related pages - the self-produced album and a demo by the band.
The result was WP:SNOW Delete Acalamari 23:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not notable, "has yet to sweep the globe" lol Simeon87 11:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete. Sean William @ 15:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Article appears to be a hoax; a Google search for Nicholas Luelf returned 5 hits, all related to someone who has published articles on farming and soil. Dsreyn 12:48, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Delete — Caknuck 03:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Loosely associated items, unsourced, can be seen as a hip-hop feud documentation Will (talk) 13:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete and redirect to author. Sr13 is almost Singularity 01:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable; promotional Tom Harrison Talk 14:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Per Carlossuarez46's suggestion, I'd be willing to undelete this list in user or project space if anyone or any WikiProject wants this. — TKD::Talk 03:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The Category:Biodiversity is more comprehensive than this list Alan Liefting 15:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Speedy delete g11, blatant advertising. NawlinWiki 18:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Properly formatting AfD on behalf of Witchzilla; given reason was "Article is nothing but advertisement, I tagged earlier but article creator, un-did my tags." --Finngall talk 16:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 01:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Reason Charbike 17:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Reason added: fails to assert notability per WP:BIO. Gordonofcartoon 23:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was Speedy close for two reasons. 1: This should be at WP:CFD instead. and 2: Didn't you see the header that says "This category is used for administration of the Wikipedia project. It is not part of the encyclopedia. It contains pages which are not articles, or lists articles by status, rather than content."? Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 21:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Wikipedia humor (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) This category and all of its pages should be deleted. This is an encyclopedia and not a online joke book. Some people will not find these pages funny but they will find them annoying. Such jokes should go to uncyclopedia. What is the point of having pages in all formal encyclopedia and not a joke book, when these pages are only being used for jokes. Brave warrior 21:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The result was speedy delete per AfD consensus JodyB yak, yak, yak 10:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article's history contains a bunch of redirects and tests; after I reverted a blanking, I tried to find something to do with the article, but after some research, I think I agree with the edit summary of the person who blanked the page: There is no such thing as this genre, because it is a made up term. Also there was no article at all, just a bunch of references. Note: Google gives lots of hits for "gothic punk"; however, most of them are about "gothic, punk" as two separate words Schutz 23:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]