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The result was speedy delete. G11, unambiguous self-promotion. -- ferret (talk) 01:46, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Flappy Mouse

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I find no evidence of notability for this video game. In searching, be sure to distinguish it from mobile apps with the same name. Largoplazo (talk) 00:00, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and redirect to [of Marvel Comics characters: O]. We don't as a rule merge unsourced material but a redirect to somewhere where a one liner could be created seems supported by tye discussion. Spartaz Humbug! 07:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlike its namesake character from DC Comics, this character does not appear to be relevant - there are no sources cited except comic books in order to establish notability of the character outside of its fictional universe, and a Google search only leads to results about its namesake, or wikias. Saturnalia0 (talk) 23:53, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Trending keep, but clearly no consensus to delete. Sandstein 07:52, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I will copy and paste here what I've written on the article's talk page with some editions. No credibility whatsoever, and certainly not significant or notable to warrant a standalone article. Just because the FBI concocted the term which is a hoax by itself does not necessarily mean it warrants inclusion. There is no such thing as "Black Identity Extremism." The US calling its Black citizens "Black Identity Extremists" who are actually "Black activists" fighting against injustice, their brutal killings by the the police, violence against them, racism and the like does not make them "Black Identity Extremists." If they are Black Identity Extremists where are the White Identity Extremists who are doing the killings, the brutalisation and racism with the institutions in place to enforce the subjugation and disenfranchisement of its Black citizens? If the Blacks fighting for their right to life, and to live dignified lives are deemed "Black Identity Extremists", what do you call organisations like the KKK who have been killing/lynching Black Americans in the most brutal fashion for decades and still continue their fascist ideology against Black Americans? This foolishness must stop. Is Wikipedia a tool for propaganda or a true encyclopedia? Wikipedia is not here for propaganda as far as I'm aware. Maybe in the future when there are real "Black Identity Extremists/Extremism" and covered in detail by reliable third party sources, perhaps then we can create an article called "Black Identity Extremism." For now, it is mainly a political agenda driven by those who are trying to turn the issue around rather than addressing the injustice, racism and brutal killings of a particular ethic group within the United States who historically have been the most disenfranchised in the US and still continue to be disenfranchised and discriminated against. Black Americans are an ethnic minority, and this targeting is foolish and not befitting an encyclopedia. Also, there are Black people all around the world. Are they also "Black Identity Extremist" too? This foolishness and systematic bias must stop! This article is utter nonsense and should be deleted. Further, without biting, and in good faith if I may add, I think it is quite unusual that the initiator of this article only registered quite recently yet the first and only article they've initiated/created is this controversial article which only started towards the end of last year thanks to the FBI. Generally, new editors start by editing articles and even if they go on to create new articles, they mainly create non controversial articles e.g. sports, bios, culture, religion, political figures etc. Their first article generally are not controversial topics especially new controversial subjects. Phew! One has to be pretty brave. I can't also help but notice that they have not contributed to Wiki anymore once this article went up. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 23:11, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@MShabazz: neither of those things, per se. What is notable is that the FBI's counterterrorism division wrote a report about it, the cultural significance of their assertion that it is a thing, and that there has been a significant backlash as a result. However I do believe the article also passes the WP:NEO test: there are plenty articles about the term, rather than just using the term. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:13, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Curb Safe Charmer: If neither, then what is the point of this article? Just because the FBI says so under a blatantly racist president who regarded white supremacists as "fine people" as per his Charlottesville rhetoric does not make it notable or warrant a wiki article. Even the sources cited debunked the tern and can see it for the foolishness it is, "[...] and some expressed concern that the term is part of a politically motivated effort to find an equivalent threat to white supremacists."[1] The sources cited are merely regurgitating the term the FBI cooked up in the kitchen (in quotation marks) before demolishing it. The sources cited regard this nonsense as a civil rights (Black American civil rights) issue as I have stated above, not Black Identity Extremists. No one, including the FBI has been able to tell us what, who, how and where we can find these Black Identity Extremists, because it is cooked up during a time of racial tension in United States thanks to the US president fanning the flames. No one, not even the sources cited have been able to provide us who these Black Identity Extremists are. It does not exist. It is a hoax fabricated by the FBI - hoping the term gain widespread usage as this source (Foreign Policy, who leaked the report back in October 2017) clearly states: "The concept of “black identity extremists” appears to be entirely new. FP found only five references to the term in a Google search; all were to law enforcement documents about domestic terrorism from the last two months. One of those online references is to law enforcement training on identifying “domestic terror groups and criminally subversive subcultures which are encountered by law enforcement professionals on a daily basis.”". Wikipedia is not a dictionary neither is it a tool to advance propaganda. I don't know of any Black Identity Extremists or organisations, perhaps someone can point me in the right direction and I'm not talking about Black civil right activists or organisation who are fighting against racial discrimination, disenfranchisement and the brutal killings of Black Americans by US law enforcement, I mean the real “black identity extremists” or movements. It does not exist. It is hoax fabricated by the FBI hoping the term will gain popular usage. Now, if you ask me who the White Identity Extremists are I can give you several examples starting with the KKK. They have set up organisations and advanced the ideology that Whites are superior to Black Americans (or any Black person for that matter). They have killed/lynched, maimed, kidnapped and wrecked Black American families for decades, yet I do not see the FBI or US president labeling them as White Identity Extremists or domestic terrorists (Which they are). To the contrary, the US president regard them as fine people. In the future when there are real “black identity extremists”, then we can create such an article. Wikipedia is going nowhere.Senegambianamestudy (talk) 11:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Senegambianamestudy: *Keep As stated above, you appear to only be making this argument because "I don't like it". The value of this article does not have to require that the terms within are universally agreed upon, so long as it can be agreed that the mentioning of these terms in the way that they have been mentioned is sufficiently notable in and of itself, of which it appears to be. This article deserves to exist because the concept of this sort of extremes that gained enough traction that the FBI thought it was worthwhile to create the content they have decided to create. As with any ideological argument, there is a degree of ambiguity as to where boundaries are, and as such, this article does not qualify in any way as propaganda. It is important to discuss this calmly and rationally, and from my perspective it appears to be that this article does not need to be deleted. SuperChris (talk) 14:11, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Shameran81: I don't think it fails WP:SUSTAINED. It was being talked about at the Congressional Black Caucus briefing on 20 March 2018 [2] with coverage from mainstream media [3]. See also WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE which asks has there been "further analysis or discussion" some time after the event. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 06:23, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:41, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

CyberSafar

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Article for advertising of non notable magazine. If not for the empty, unreferenced claim of being published, this is A7 straight. But better knock it down here, in case it is recreated as was the case for every advert content–Ammarpad (talk) 08:24, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May be a small-scale selling magazine, its listed in notable RS like ′itunes.apple.com′ and ′magzter.com′. As no much info is available about the magazine, only available content, what reliable sources say, are included in the article. Only intention of article's creation is because of encyclopedic interest. Ganeshprasadkp (talk) 08:56, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Dear Ammarpad, As you've mentioned, I created the account a decade ago, but I am editing since only from January 2018. I've provided few reference citaitons like 'itunes.apple.com' and 'magzter.com' in the article. Aren't they reliable sources? | Thank you. Ganeshprasadkp (talk) 07:10, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If business/store sources like itunes.apple.com is what you add in your articles as a reliable source, then there's more problem than this. –Ammarpad (talk) 04:56, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  1. "CyberSafar - January 2018". magzter.com. - shopping details aren't neutral, and it doesn't give much detail in any case.
  2. "CyberSafar Edumedia". tradeindia.com. - The detail here is so scarce, it's hard to determine whether it can be relied on for the location data.
  3. "CyberSafar". play.google.com. - as with a shop source, the details here wouldn't be reliable, nor is it a significant source.
  4. "Cybersafar Magazine No 2 April 2012". scribd.com. - my translate was playing up with this one - if it's just a copy of the actual magazine, then its worthwhile to have a link to, but can't be relied on as it's OR. If that isn't the case, apologies - I can't read it to check, anyone who can please say.
  5. "ઈ-મેઇલની જરા અંદરની વાત". divyabhaskar.co.in. - I couldn't tell whether this was OR or not - it's a different website, but indicates "Article of Cyber Safar by Himanshu Kikani in Kalash Magazine", suggesting that it is a duplicated piece of work. Can you confirm?
  6. "CyberSafar 4+ Magzter Inc". itunes.apple.com. - Another store/shop etc source and therefore not reliable
  7. "Website and Reviews of CyberSafar Edumedia". grotal.com. - Recruiting company - Not reliable and not a significant source
  8. "IT MAGAZINES/BOOKS". pcpersonalised.com. - very passing mention, just noting it was a possible provider of articles
  9. "Cybersafar Edumedia". startuparena.in. - Some OR provided minimal details in a start-up platform.
  10. "Web Analysis for Cybersafar". cutestat.com. The web bit is OR, but that isn't mentioned in the article so that isn't an issue. However other than noting that Cybersafar exists, it doesn't provide any significant coverage
  11. "Cybersafar Handy Guide Set". clickabooks.com. - Another store link, without any appreciable information in any case
  12. "Registrar of Newspapers for India". rni.nic.in. - broken link. Seeming government list of newspapers publisher/printing addresses. While it could act as a source for that detail(s), not significant independent source for general notability.
  13. "Cybar Safar". newspapers.in. - Again just a confirmation it exists, it doesn't provide any appreciable coverage to indicate that Cyber Safar has sufficient notability for its own article
  14. "CyberSafar Cyber Crime Topics-2016 (Gujarati) Paperback – 2016". amazon.in. - another store link, just demonstrating that they have made a book (worth mentioning though, if you can find a source)
  15. "Cyber Safar". careerage.com/. - Not CS related.
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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:41, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject of the article does not meet WP:AUTHOR. Most of the sources seem to be articles that he himself wrote. Very little if any independent sources to support notability. It seems that the article was already deleted three times in the past, making it a good candidate for salting Rusf10 (talk) 02:56, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:42, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Concentric (company)

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article has no sources outside of company's own website DocumentError (talk) 21:41, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Finnmark independence referendum, 2018

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The referendum will not address the question of state sovereignty, which has not been raised by a political body either. The referendum is about whether or not to uphold county status vs. a merger. Several of the claims are unsupported, such as that about Sami secessionism. Geschichte (talk) 21:40, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Wakhi people#Wakhi Tajik Cultural Association. Content can be merged from history subject to consensus. Sandstein 06:43, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I found some coverage in the books via G'books but trivial therefore this one fails WP:ORGDEPTH. Saqib (talk) 10:45, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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MY opinion, it fails per WP:ORGDEPTH. --Saqib (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The content over there is unsourced and risk getting deleted. Redirection does not make sense unless someone fix it. On a related note, I don't understand why would someone mention the organisation (which is not notable at least by WP standards) in quite detail in an article about Wakhi people. Generally, we are not supposed to do that. A wikilink makes sense but whole passage does not. --Saqib (talk) 07:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And I would say why? --Saqib (talk) 19:58, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? WP:AFDFORMAT reads: Alternatives to deletion should be considered. If you think the article should be a disambiguation page, a redirect or merger to another article, then recommend "Disambiguation", "Redirect" or "Merge". Do not recommend deletion in such cases. Explained in WP:ATD.  M A A Z   T A L K  20:09, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
See my above comment dated 11 April. --Saqib (talk) 04:26, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Inch Park. Sandstein 06:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Single-sourced biography of a city councillor, in a city not large enough to hand its city councillors an automatic WP:NPOL pass just for existing. As always, city councillors only get an immediate presumption of notability in internationally prominent global cities on the order of New York City, Chicago, Toronto or London -- in cities on the order of Hamilton, Ontario, city councillors are accepted as notable only if they can be well-sourced to a depth and range of coverage that marks them out as significantly more notable than the norm for city councillors. But this demonstrates nothing of the sort; it just cites his brief entry in a local biographical dictionary, which is not enough all by itself. And having had a city park or neighbourhood named after him is not an exemption from having to have more reliable source coverage than this, either -- most municipal infrastructure in most cities is named after former aldermen and mayors and merchants and other local figures, so it doesn't inherently make Inch special. There's simply not enough substantive sourcing here to deem him notable for any of this. Bearcat (talk) 20:07, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Blakey (music producer)

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Reason Wikitigresito (talk) 22:45, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, I believe Michael Blakey is not relevant to wikipedia. There was a very long article written on his life, mostly un- or badly sourced and very likely intended to push his prestige and public image a little bit. After deleting everything that is obviously not relevant, the only possibly noteworthy things he has done were music production activities for a couple of famous musicians (especially Engelbert Humperdinck). However, it seems to be that he mostly co-produced the less well-known, 2nd tier pieces of these artists.

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*VERY STRONG KEEP: Instead of simply deleting stuff from Wiki it's better to improve articles like this. I removed dead links (some of them were erroneously marked dead as the links contained audio interviews) and added a few Hollywood Reporter links to the article where the subject is mentioned as a celebrity manager for Jimmy Connors and Ron White. The same source also clarifies that Michael Blakey was an executive producer for Ron White's comedy album "Ron White's Salute To The Troops" (2011). Moreover I was able to find all the Electra Star links that were previously removed for being dead. Freethinker987 (talk) 16:17, 9 April 2018 (UTC).[reply]

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I love the use of big bold capital letters. They do not influence the closing admin one way or another. Since it is not a ballot this will be decided upon the arguments and on the article itself. Since this keeps arising from the ashes, may I suggest salting to seek to prevent yet another discussion over inherently similar re-creations? 16:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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  • Michael, I avoided mentioning above that this is almost certainly you in a vain attempt to avoid your blushes, but don't you realise how ridiculous you are making yourself look here? Just give up your attempt to include yourself on Wikipedia to avoid making yourself a laughing stock, if it's not already too late. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 20:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • To further elaborate my point of view: the article falls under WP:PEOPLE, and meets WP:basic, plus meets additional criteria for creative professionals WP:FILMMAKER. If the author failed to conform with Wiki's neutral point of view policy, WP:GD clearly states that the article is "usually remedied through editing for neutrality, but text that does not conform to any of the remaining three policies is usually removed from Wikipedia, either by removing a passage or section of an otherwise satisfactory article or by removing an entire article if nothing can be salvaged." In this case, WP:OR does not apply and most of the sources are verifiable. I see no grounds for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.196.200.150 (talk) 23:10, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Per my yalk page: "Thanks for the ping because I note that maintenance edits I made were "edited out". Two editors, one a SPA and one with two areas in five years (hitting this one hard now), seems to be steering the article. "If it stays it will need protections and over-site.".
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Enumclaw Regional Hospital

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Article does not demonstrate notability. This is part of a group of articles created by a SPA on hospitals owned by CHI Franciscan Health. DocumentError (talk) 20:40, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 06:48, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article does not demonstrate notability. This is part of a group of articles created by a SPA on hospitals owned by CHI Franciscan Health. DocumentError (talk) 20:40, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:48, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ENT. Boleyn (talk) 18:52, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) 198.84.253.202 (talk) 21:08, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article subject appears in only supporting, minor roles. Fails WP:NACTOR (since he does not have "significant roles in multiple notable films", neither does he have a "significant cult following", nor did he make a "unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment", and does not meet any of the WP:ANYBIO criteria, since the "Star Awards" are an internal award to actors all working for the same media group, and addition they are not a "well-known and significant award or honor" (since they are not significant, nor are they well-known outside of Singaporean-media variety/entertainment reporting, unlike say the Academy Awards, which are well covered in independent, international media). And he hasn't won any anyway (2 nominations is not really that many...). 198.84.253.202 (talk) 15:44, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are forgetting about the "significant roles" part. Appearing in a few episodes as a supporting character is not a significant role, no matter how notable the series is. WP:NACTOR states that at least one of the criteria must be passed, which is why all three must be proven to be false for the article not the pass that criterion. As I have commented above, the awards are not significant, he hasn't won them anyway, and he doesn't pass any of the NACTOR criteria, so there's no reason to keep the article? 198.84.253.202 (talk) 21:07, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"Love interest" seems pretty much to fit the description of secondary, non-significant character. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 21:42, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"Nominated for best actor" doesn't mean anything, unless it's as part of a significant award (ex. the Academy Awards. "Won" wouldn't have more impact unless it was some similarly important award, and the Star Awards fall short of this because they are not independently awarded but awarded by the parent company, so it does not make the awards significant, or even well-known outside of Singapore. "Lead role" in a variety show which ran for less than 1 month isn't significant. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 03:23, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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'Nationally broadcast' is not a criteria for notability. As for the series where he supposedly had main roles, there seems to be little coverage, for example, Priceless Wonder currently only cites one reliable source - and it's a broken link (the other wasn't reliable), and it's probably a passing mention. A google search does not reveal any coverage of the series either. There would need to be coverage (even in Chinese) which would meet the criteria of WP:SIGCOV (i.e., that it is not routine coverage, that it is not trivial mentions and that it is independent and reliable). 198.84.253.202 (talk) 02:59, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:TVSERIES opines that nationally broadcast tv series are normally notable so if not online there should be offline sources. WP:GNG does not mention routine coverage as that qualification is too subjective Atlantic306 (talk) 15:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Found the link you mentioned in the Priceless Wonder article and it seems significant coverage as the article is directly about him here. Please note that Zzen Zhang is his other name and redircts to Zen Chong, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 16:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:05, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Guskind

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Non-notable executive. I cannot find any coverage in RS. SmartSE (talk) 18:30, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Hull University Union. Sandstein 06:49, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Non notable student radio station, tagged for citations since 2012 and hasn't improved. Suggest redirect to the university student union Aloneinthewild (talk) 18:29, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:49, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keema naan

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The contents of this sub-stub are already mentioned at the main article Naan, and there doesn't seem to be much to merit a standalone article. MT TrainTalk 18:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Support deletion as article offers no reliable sources, just recipe blogs. lovkal (talk) 08:20, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, just a dicdef. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 18:41, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:49, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Folklorni ansambl „Rožaje”

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Fails WP:SIGCOV, the only sources available in the article are links to social media. lovkal (talk) 18:22, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:06, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of The Elenium and The Tamuli characters

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Contains only plot summary from novels (WP:NOTPLOT). Such content belongs in fan wikis; Wikipedia treats fiction from a real-world perspective (WP:WAF). No indication that this particular topic (as opposed to the individual novels and the series) is notable per WP:GNG. Compare Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Undead (Discworld) for a recently closed similar case. Sandstein 18:17, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. There is a consensus to keep and questions about the status of the league have been discussed. (non-admin closure) Szzuk (talk) 20:23, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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WFails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. FilFootyGuy (talk) 17:46, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment It's been discussed before at WP:FOOTY that the Philippines Football League, despite being labelled as a pro league, doesn't pass the criteria as a "fully professional league" (FPL). Therefore players who make an appearance in the league do not pass WP:NFOOTY. In this case, Linatoc also do not pass WP:GNG. FilFootyGuy (talk) 11:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's listed over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues which is usually accepted. Further clarification needed perhaps. R96Skinner (talk) 12:53, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - How come the Philippines Football League is listed at fully professional league then; which you mention in your reason for deletion? R96Skinner (talk) 17:22, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I agree why is the Philippines Football League listed at fully professional league then. When that list is used to determine which players qualify as being notable. Therefore in this case Linatoc does pass WP:GNG. Shotgun pete (talk) 6:06, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 07:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. FilFootyGuy (talk) 17:40, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - It's been discussed before at WP:FOOTY that the Philippines Football League, despite being labelled as a pro league, doesn't pass the criteria as a "fully professional league" (FPL). Therefore players who make an appearance in the league do not pass WP:NFOOTY. In this case, Melliza also do not pass WP:GNG. FilFootyGuy (talk) 11:39, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's listed over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues which is usually accepted. Further clarification needed perhaps. R96Skinner (talk) 12:53, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - He actually has played in a fully professional league - the Philippines Football League, which is listed at WP:FPL. R96Skinner (talk) 17:21, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. G4, G5 —SpacemanSpiff 02:50, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shyamal K. Mishra

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Film director or producers are not given an automatic free pass over WP:BIO just because they exist — their ability to qualify for Wikipedia articles is determined by criteria at WP:AUTHOR. As per this article, the subject directed two films (both non-notable at least by WP standards) which means basically fails WP:AUTHOR..

The article further claim, the subject has worked as assistant director in a TV show and a film, but assistant directors are not something that would be expected to have an article on English Wikipedia, unless they meet GNG. Search doesn't produce any substantial information about the person either which means fail basic GNG as well. Saqib (talk) 17:41, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Gud catch. I endorse the suggestion of WP:G4. Narky Blert (talk) 19:36, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:09, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor Cammarata

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fails WP: NHOCKEY Joeykai (talk) 17:37, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of San Diego Padres first-round draft picks. Spartaz Humbug! 07:04, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Afd in 2007 closed as "keep" under logic we would not accept now. Tagged for notability since 2013. Subject has not played professionally since 2014, so is unlikely to restart his career. Fails WP:GNG for lack of significant coverage and WP:BASE/N as he did not make the major leagues or win any major awards that would qualify him. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:42, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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In the past college baseball all-american honors were not considered worthy of a keep on their own.. they don't get "national media attention" and he didnt play in any notable top level tournaments with the national team. Spanneraol (talk) 22:52, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Where is that written into policy? I've definitely seen many articles kept because of their All-American status. Spanneraol, you voted to keep an article on a player with similar profile in a discussion in which we both participated.--TM 23:28, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Who do you think selects the All-American teams? The national media. That obviously indicates attention from the national media. That seems to be very clearly the intent of the policy as well.--TM 14:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
here is the relevant discussion on the subject. The other article you mention was kept based on sources not on his all-american status. College baseball doesnt get much coverage from the national media in general and a list of all-americans is not indepth coverage.Spanneraol (talk) 15:29, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You are pointing to a six year old discussion that did not come to a consensus and had fewer than 10 participants. That's not policy.--TM 16:26, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP: NHOCKEY Joeykai (talk) 17:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:50, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Director of some non-notable companies ( at least by WP standards).. . Steps were taken to locate sources WP:BEFORE this nomination, but were not successful. so Subject does not appear to meet GNG and lacks non-trivial coverage from independent reliable sources. Saqib (talk) 05:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment this source [7] was founed by me on Google, published on Bloomberg can help it to establish notabilityKamran Ali El-Batli (talk) 16:22, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously? mention in passing. This is not enough to establish the WP:N. --Saqib (talk) 16:29, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I said it can help to establish not establishKamran Ali El-Batli (talk) 09:06, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:50, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hotshot (stock character)

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Contains very large amounts of WP:SYNTH that uses example cruft to explain what is essentially just a WP:DICDEF. Action hero is sufficient to explain this information, this article's split from that is WP:OR. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:07, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 01:01, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Hnetinka

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Chock full of press releases and general fluff, no real in-depth coverage. A search also shows much of the same: lots of PR. Fails GNG. The only non-interview and non-press release I can find is this and several like it. The move to mainspace reason "he will be the greatest speaker at SXSW" doesn't really hold weight here. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ "Guilty plea in Hamptons prom party case". Retrieved 23 April 2018.
  2. ^ "Jennemann Pleads Guilty In Prom House Violations - Southampton". Retrieved 23 April 2018.
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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:50, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rockhampton Brothers Australian Football Club

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Page was originally proded, but was removed by the creator of the page with a message on my talk page saying they will add information to this page and others in the league when they have time. It has been over a month and nothing has been added to the article. Page does not seem to meet WP:GNG and google searches plus google news searches does not return independent results for Rockhampton Brothers Australian Football Club or Rockhampton Australian Football Club. I think redirecting this to AFL Capricornia#Current clubs is a way to go as this could be a plausible search term. Flickerd (talk) 13:51, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:50, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Habib Noorbhai

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Possible CV/self-promotion. Academic with a few papers in a highly specific field, motivational speaker and winner of a (reportedly fake[8]) male beauty pageant, that is described as his "most notable achievement" in the article. Cited press release claims he has/had a TV show on a minor free-to-air satellite channel, but I couldn't verify this. Article creator has no edit history besides this article, and seems to be linked to pageant. The Mail and Guardian awards appear to allow self-nominations.[9]. Fails WP:Notability Park3r (talk)

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:51, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure that this meets WP:CORP. There was coverage in the LAT about it being formed, but the article discusses management companies in general, more than anything about this specific company. Other coverage is routine hiring information. SmartSE (talk) 11:08, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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This might not be a usual deletion criterion, but please have a look at the "website" of the company. The linked www. subdomain does not exist, and removing the www. reveals a blue "Untitled Document" with Apple favicon. To me, this can never be a professional, notable company, based on the look of their website alone.
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Delete for not being notable. People trying to advertise this company via Wikipedia should take some time to setup a professional website instead. We're not your web host. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:50, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:11, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jobs in newspapers

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There is already an article on Classifieds, which are standard in all countries and their newspapers. Also contains generic statements on classifieds of different publications and read like POV and OR. MT TrainTalk 10:54, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails Wikipedia:No original research. User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 13:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:11, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Skycandle

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Fails to meet WP:NCORP. Yet another start up with coverage only in relation to funding. SmartSE (talk) 10:46, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Sandstein 06:51, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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This article should be deleted because it fails WP:RS, WP:GNG and WP:N. I researched for it but couldn't find significant coverage on the subject to have a standalone article. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 10:23, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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A list of sources are:--

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:12, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rahul Parmar

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Non-notable filmmaker, no reliable independent sources. Seems like a self-created vanity page. Contested prod. WWGB (talk) 09:24, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:12, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Mayes (entrepreneur)

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Vanity biography of a non-notable entrepreneur, added to Wikipedia on the same day as Quantum 9, the consulting firm he founded. Both would appear to be created by undeclared paid editors. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:40, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Given that there is substantial sourcing, there's not a policy-based mandate to delete, which leaves us with no consensus. Sandstein 08:59, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Tagged for PROD by User:Reddogsix: "Non-notable journalist lacking in-depth, non-trivial support. The original article made a number of spurious unsupported statements which I removed." Nomination per PROD tagger's reasons. Calton | Talk 02:15, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Can be userfied via WP:REFUND for improvement. Sandstein 06:53, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Rand

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No third-party sources. Fails WP:NBIO. shoy (reactions) 19:16, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Although the current article does appear to fail the NBIO standard, given the few citations listed, there are sufficient reliable independent sources supporting the notability of this individual. I would like to do some work on this article to bring it up to Wikipedia's standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RhondaLH (talkcontribs) 20:35, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Can be redirected if desired. Sandstein 06:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced duplication of Category:Assiut University alumni created by a sock puppet of globally locked cross-wiki SPA Eslam Ossama (talk · contribs) DrKay (talk) 07:36, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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If the creator is a sock then recommend Delete first and then create redirect. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:04, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to James Bourne. Nom has since gone with Redirect so no need for this to continue, (non-admin closure)Davey2010Talk 20:58, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NSONG Seraphim System (talk) 07:28, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect. I believe this don't deserve its own article since it clearly lacks independent sources. Therefore, it doesn't comply with WP:NSONG. So a redirect to the said band/artist would be better in my opinion. Romrom9 (talk) 11:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Joey Pigza Swallowed the Key. Sandstein 06:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable fictional character per WP:NCHAR. Character lacks coverage from reliable sources outside of the context of the plot of a book series. Article contains no information that isn't in the articles for the books themselves or the author article. Avg W (talk) 05:11, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Ayyappan Temple Vennandur

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Lack of any coverage in reliable sources to satisfy notability. MT TrainTalk 03:54, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Toronto Shelter, Support & Housing Administration Division

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Stub about a municipal government department, which barely goes any further than stating that its subject exists and "references" the fact only to its own self-published content about itself. As always, something like this could get an article if it could be properly referenced over WP:GNG, but is not entitled to keep a basically unreferenced and virtually substanceless article just because it exists. Bearcat (talk) 01:58, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Toronto Employment and Social Services Division

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Stub about a municipal government department, flagged as needing references since 2009 without improvement, which barely goes any further than stating that its subject exists and "references" the fact only to its own self-published website about itself. As always, something like this could get an article if it could be properly referenced over WP:GNG, but is not entitled to keep a virtually unreferenced and virtually substanceless article just because it exists. Bearcat (talk) 01:55, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Stub about a municipal government department, flagged as unreferenced since 2009 without improvement, which barely goes any further than stating that its subject exists. As always, something like this could get an article if it could be properly referenced over WP:GNG, but is not entitled to keep an unreferenced and virtually substanceless article just because it exists. Bearcat (talk) 01:52, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and redirect to Camila (album). Spartaz Humbug! 07:06, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Never Be the Same Tour (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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This article keeps getting recreated, but as far as I can see it still fails WP:NTOUR and still violates WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Softlavender (talk) 00:08, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BD2412. The first review is from a non-notable venue (a student newspaper) and it pans her performance; the second review is from a local weekly online "news site", and the Billboard article is just a short mention that Pharrell showed up at one performance. None of that remotely satisfies WP:NTOUR in my view, especially in this time where everyone has a blog-site masquerading as a music review site, and concerts also get reviewed by non-notable local "news sites". None of those things confer any kind of lasting notability. -- Softlavender (talk) 00:57, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a rule that only positive reviews count? A review panning a tour is as legitimate a consideration as one heaping praise on it. The fact that it is a student newspaper is not particularly relevant to me; student newspapers at large universities can have standards equal to the "real" newspapers in a small town. Neither do I have a problem with a local weekly. If not kept, it should probably me merged and redirected into the article on the performer or the album being supported by it. However, my vote stands. bd2412 T 01:02, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect, and this is my last response, I personally suggest you re-read WP:NTOUR. A concert tour by a known artist is going to get reviewed somewhere, somehow. That does not make the tour itself encyclopedically notable enough for its own article. If that were the case, every still-performing singer and band who has a Wikipedia article would have an article on every single one of their tours post-2010, because at least two or three of the tour's performances will have been reviewed somewhere online. In my opinion, all this article serves as is a promotional directory of the performance dates and venues, so not only does it fail WP:NTOUR, it violates WP:NOTCATALOGUE and WP:NOTPROMO. -- Softlavender (talk) 01:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You asked for my opinion. The entire relevant portion of WP:NTOUR is:

Concert tours are probably notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Such coverage might show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms. Sources that merely establish that a tour happened are not sufficient to demonstrate notability. Tours that cannot be sufficiently referenced in secondary sources should be covered in a section on the artist's page rather than creating a dedicated article.

There are multiple sources available (I only did a very cursory search, I am sure there are more), and those that have been presented here are clearly independent, and I see no reason to question their reliability. These sources clearly go beyond merely establishing "that a tour happened". Per the stated policy, if this article is not kept, it "should be covered in a section on the artist's page", which would necessitate a merge and redirect. bd2412 T 01:24, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I said I wouldn't reply again, but a local online weekly reviewing one concert, and a student newspaper reviewing another concert, does not constitute significant coverage of the tour itself. As I said, if it did, we'd have a Wikipedia article on every single still-performing singer or group's tours since as far back as 2010 or further. Softlavender (talk) 02:35, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BD2412, this is why I keep saying sourced need to cover the tour as a tour. A concert review does not do that. It does not discuss "artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience", etc. You are welcome to think that a review or two is enough, but that is simply not true. Drmies (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am persuaded by the above that the current content does not support support a separate article. I have changed my !vote to merge and Camila (album), which has a section on the tour. I think that this is a better target than the page on the artist, as the tour is specifically to support the album. bd2412 T 23:51, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(I am so going to nick "table porn" for future use.) Narky Blert (talk) 21:03, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Narky Blert, go for it. If you ever look at K-pop articles, or those articles for those TV shows where stupid people vote for or against other stupid people, you know exactly what I mean. Maybe--because what I also mean is that such tables have a tendency to present a lot of information in a pretty way, and thereby more or less advertise the content, by making it seem more important than it is. It's the equivalent of Calvin handing in his useless and unfinished school project in a professional binder. Drmies (talk) 13:59, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Drmies: I don't seek such articles out, but as a DABfixer they keep finding me. I do know what you mean. It's a variant of WP:REFBOMB. Narky Blert (talk) 22:33, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia is not a gig guide. Narky Blert (talk) 20:55, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Modifying !vote to redirect to Camila (album) and salt in the light of User:BD2412's suggestion of a better target than the one I had proposed. Narky Blert (talk) 01:23, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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@Melodies1917: As an FYI - WP:SALT. Narky Blert (talk) 19:48, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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