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The result was delete. Sandstein 14:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keiko Nakazawa[edit]

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A BLP that lacks sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail. Sigificant RS coverage not found. The article is cited to online directories, interviews, commercial websites, and other sources otherwise not suitable for notability. Does not meet WP:PORNBIO / WP:NACTOR. No significant awards or notable contributions to the genre. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:55, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 14:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mayura Hoshitsuki[edit]

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A BLP that lacks sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail. Sigificant RS coverage not found. The article is cited to online directories, interviews, commercial websites, and other sources otherwise not suitable for notability. Does not meet WP:PORNBIO / WP:NACTOR. No significant awards or notable contributions to the genre. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:46, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Toshok[edit]

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Tag for notability since 2012. Searching still doesn't turn up much. Insufficient in-depth coverage in independent RS. Even the link in the infobox is dead. Previously deleted in a unanimous AFD in 2006 and recreated in 2007. MB 23:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Anybody who wishes to write a new, well-researched, properly sourced, and non-copyvio article at this title is free to do so. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

History of electricity supply in bangladesh[edit]

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There is so much wrong with this article that the best way of dealing with it is to delete it. It has obviously been copied from another wiki, and although it is CCbySA I don't know how it would properly be attributed. The article itself is not properly reflected by its title, as it is neither a History, not is it solely about Electricity. There are already many articles here about the energy sector in Bandladesh which probably already cover these topics, see Category:Energy in Bangladesh. Derek Andrews (talk) 23:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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As I said before, it isn't even just about electricity, and if it were there is already Electricity sector in Bangladesh. Derek Andrews (talk) 20:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Energy in Bangladesh has also covered many of these aspects. Rzvas (talk) 00:19, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. czar 02:25, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Rassias[edit]

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notability Mathchecker (talk) 23:16, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The subject is only a post-doctoral researcher. Does not have a tenure-track at the University of Zurich where he is listed as working, let alone full professorship, position. So well below threshold of notability on this front.

Major contributions to research? Majority of his papers appear in fact to be in low-prestige journals, (some in journals associated with citation rings). I do not see any major research accomplishments on par with mathematicians for which wikipedia pages have been written. Needless to say, he has received no reputable international prizes for his research, etc.

That leaves his "editorial" activities: As was pointed out before, however, "co-editing" a book (whose content is a series of papers by other people) together with a famous senior mathematician is more or less a secretarial type job and is not in itself a criterion of notability.

The web-history of the article is consistent with that of a vanity wikipedia page.

I strongly suspect that it is the subject of the article himself who has constructed the page.

I think this is clear case for deletion. Mathchecker (talk) 23:16, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Changing to Delete as the subject has requested it and there is no good reason not to do as they request. --DanielRigal (talk) 21:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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I conjecture that the subject made the article on the basis of (a) the choice and amount of detail which was included, (b) the fact that the IP address is in Switzerland, where the subject is based, and (c) the fact that no other articles are associated with this IP address. Subsequent edits to prevent the article from deletion were made from anonymous IP addresses in Greece. The web history is just very different from that of other wikipedia articles concerning mathematicians, and I do find that suspicious. But whether he made the article himself or not is of course secondary. The subject of this article does not come close to meeting any of the criteria of WP:PROF. Of course he has some scientific publications, and he has collaborated with other mathematicians, some distinguished, some not, as any young postdoc at his career stage would. Not only are these publications not in any way exceptional (and they would have to be truly exceptional for him to qualify under WP:PROF given his very low rank in career stage) but actually they appear quite weak: In particular, it would be surprising for a notable mathematician to even consider publishing in journals such as "Advances in Operator Theory", published by the "Tusi Mathematical Research Group (TMRG)" or "Applicable Analysis and Discrete Mathematics", published by University of Belgrade - School of Electrical Engineering, which not only have no reputation but seem like journals involved in citation rings. To anyone in the mathematics community, the presence of such journals on a CV cries out "scam". Anyway, the subject is so far from meeting WP:PROF that I don't think one has to dig too deeply into his publication record but the story gets worse and worse the more I look... Mathchecker (talk) 02:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Notwithstanding the fact that I feel honored that some people may have thought that a Wikipedia profile could exist for me, I believe it is too early in my career for such a thing. As I am not knowledgeable on how Wikipedia really works in order to proceed myself with it, I would like to ask for your help in order for this page to actually be deleted. If you could do this, I would appreciate it very much if you could please delete this Wikipedia page."
So I think WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE applies here. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:25, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:09, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Antisemitism in the International Brigades[edit]

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This page was proposed for deletion a year ago. At the time, the discussion was closed, with a decision to merge this into International Brigades. However, this was not the preferred option of any of the participants in the discussion, and has not been carried out. None of the issues raised at the time has been addressed, the article is still largely original research and synthesis, and reads much more like a undergraduate thesis than an encyclopaedia article. I don't think that this article is salvageable, and repeat my belief that it should be deleted. RolandR (talk) 22:41, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 07:09, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Film Centre[edit]

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Terribly promotional article by an obvious COI editor, which has been here in this condition (without references to establish notability) for far too long. This is basically the text of an organizational website. Drmies (talk) 21:53, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm already in the process of cleaning up the promotionalism and adding proper sources, so there's no need for a WP:TNT here. It's not a question of if the subject is notable. It is notable, and the article just wasn't doing a very good job of showing and sourcing that properly — but cleanup is already underway. Bearcat (talk) 21:02, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:09, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Osama Al-Emary[edit]

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WP:BLP of a writer and consultant, written much more like a résumé than a proper encyclopedia article. This is referenced to just one footnote, and while I don't completely trust Google Translate's translation from Arabic, that publication's "about us" page appears to describe itself as a user-generated open content platform where anybody can submit "news" about anything they want to create self-published sourcing for ("We are looking for important information and we will publish it and publish it. Open community dialogues on issues of the homeland. Open to all opinions to express the spectrum of society.") And even if we grant it the benefit of the doubt and accept it as a reliable source, it still takes more than just one acceptable reliable source to pass WP:GNG -- but other than that one footnote, all this does otherwise is linkfarm an WP:ELNO-violating collection of dead links and pieces of his own writing about other things, which are not notability-assisting sources either. He needs to be the subject of content written and published by other people, not the bylined author of content about other things, to be properly sourced as a notable writer. Bearcat (talk) 21:51, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:12, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gerald Murray (Talent manager)[edit]

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Murray managed some notable names, but notability is not inherited and the available sources do not indicate sufficient notability on his own. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:40, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 14:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hedda Martina Šola[edit]

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WP:AUTOBIO of a marketing consultant, whose claims of notability are referenced entirely to primary sources with no evidence of any reliable source coverage about her in media shown at all. As always, Wikipedia is WP:NOTLINKEDIN: a person is not automatically entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because her own writing technically verifies that she exists, and even if she can be properly sourced as notable enough to have a Wikipedia article she still isn't entitled to create it herself. Bearcat (talk) 21:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:13, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Allen[edit]

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WP:BLP of a writer and curator, whose claims of notability are referenced entirely to primary sources. As always, you do not get a writer over WP:AUTHOR by referencing it to sources in which she's the bylined author of content about other things -- you make her notable enough for a Wikipedia article by referencing it to sources in which she's the subject of content written by other people, but that's not what any of the footnotes here are. Bearcat (talk) 21:28, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The citation to The Globe and Mail is not about her, but just glancingly namechecks her existence a single time in an article about something else. (And incidentally, there is no such thing as the "Toronto Globe and Mail" — it's just "The Globe and Mail", period.). Bearcat (talk) 04:51, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As far as I can see you have just added a large set of minor mentions, although I stopped counting after I read ten of them. Bios, etc. Where is the in-depth coverage? For example, this set of minutes from the Kingston town council meeting proves just that she went to the town council to present something. Anyone who gets up to speak gets their name in the minutes. Two of the other references beside that one (there were six attached to one statement) are merely her name in a list of four or five names. Example. Those are not reliable sources that contribute to notability, they are just name checks. That is the case for most of the new references. I have not seen one new example of in-depth coverage in the newer 44-reference version. I want to, but cannot see anything of substance in the new refs. The Globe and Mail source mentions here in one sentence along with two other people. It's a name check. If you could point out which ones are substantial in-depth coverage, that would help. Pinging Theredproject, DGG and Mduvekot as they often participate in artist Afds.104.163.158.37 (talk) 03:51, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CommentIt's true that this is not a badly written page. It's also true that this person plays a role in the Canadian art world that is valuable on may levels. However the point of the encyclopedia not to create a definitive directory of all valuable persons, it is to create a directory of notable persons. The artists she is writing about have a lot of notability. I do not think she does as a curator; anyone filling her position at the gallery would have more than half the references cited here, by virtue of the position.104.163.158.37 (talk) 02:37, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. czar 01:39, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Emily Mellencamp Smith[edit]

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Single-sourced WP:BLP of a person notable only as fundraising director of a political party. This is a role that could get her an article if she were sourced over WP:GNG for it, but not one that confers an automatic presumption of notability under WP:NPOL just because she exists -- but while she gets namechecked a fair bit in a Google News search (almost entirely in relation to her being let go last fall), she isn't the subject of any significant coverage that I can find. So the coverage that does exist just makes her a WP:BLP1E, not somebody who's cleared GNG. Bearcat (talk) 21:15, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Beach House 3. There's some question about the proper redirect target. If somebody wants to be WP:BOLD and change this to point to Ty Dolla Sign discography, I have no problem with that. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:26, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In Your Phone[edit]

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Fails WP:NSONGS. An album track with no notability. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 21:07, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment single release (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with whether songs warrant articles, and artists featured on it are also entirely moot. What they need per WP:Notability (music)#Songs (WP:NSONGS) is multiple legitimate secondary sources outside of album reviews that cover this in a fair amount of detail (preferably more than a paragraph) and aren't just based off of artist/label/producer/songwriter commentary (which would basically be self-promotion). There should also be enough information available on the song itself (not just parent album filler) to create more than just a stub. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:32, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Lists of television channels. Spartaz Humbug! 07:14, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of television channels (alphabetically)[edit]

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This is too broad of a category as per WP:SALAT. Despite its length, it is actually not complete. And it is also difficult to maintain, as it is out of date. We already have more appropriate lists by country, see [2] Rusf10 (talk) 17:14, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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At 95,947 bytes it is too large as per WP:TOOBIG (and its not even complete). As that size spinoffs are recommended. However, I I pointed out above those spinoffs already exist, making this article not necessary. Actually the spinoff content is fully listed here Lists_of_television_channels. It is a very broad category for a list. We don't have other similar list such as List of retail stores (alphabetically) or List of radio stations (alphabetically).--Rusf10 (talk) 18:33, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Hello Rusf10, I’m sorry but I do not believe you read the policy all the way through. If you go to WP:SPLITLIST, under the policy heading WP:TOOBIG you referred to, you will see the guideline states specifically; “…Lists, tables, and other material that is already in summary form may not be appropriate for reducing or summarizing further by the summary style method. If there is no "natural" way to split or reduce a long list or table, it may be best to leave it intact, and a decision made to either keep it embedded in the main article or split it off into a stand-alone page. Regardless, a list or table should be kept as short as is feasible for its purpose and scope.”...Sorry again, but we can not pick and choose specific areas of a policy, that do not apply to the specific situation you are referring to and try to apply to that situation.... goes to the old adage; "...a square peg does not fit into a round hole". Nice try though. ShoesssS Talk 18:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Shoessss:, I am sorry, but I actually did read the policy and I am not picking and choosing specific areas of it. There is a "natural" way to split this list and it's already been done, see Lists_of_television_channels. It makes logical sense to split the television channels by country, which is what has been done, making this list both redundant and a complete mess.--Rusf10 (talk) 22:11, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Any policy-based reason to keep? Also, it seems like you support catergorizing them by country, kind of like this or this?
Page views is not a valid reason to keep (see WP:BIGNUMBER) nor "it is useful" (see WP:USEFUL). I am also not just arguing that the list is too long. It is too long and there are already suitable replacements in existence. Since we already have lists of channels by county, there is no reason to create a massive sortable table. Massive sortable lists are not appropriate, this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a spreadsheet. For example, when you go to Lists of actors, there is not a massive sortable table--Rusf10 (talk) 22:45, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It serves a purpose, people use it, and it has potential to be even more useful. The fact that List of American film actresses and the like only list names and birthdays doesn't mean other lists can't be sortable. There are a lot of sortable lists on Wikipedia, just takes some effort for someone to make them. Wikipedia:Stand-alone_lists#General_formats_of_list_articles mentions List of social networking websites as a sortable list. Dream Focus 00:30, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
List of American film actresses is not a list of every American film actress ever or even all those with a wikipedia article (same with the your other example), it is limited to only the most notable, so you're comparing apples to oranges.--Rusf10 (talk) 01:10, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If they have a Wikipedia article they can be listed. The fact no one updated it to have everyone, is not relevant. Dream Focus 04:14, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Also the grammar police have issued a citation. There is only one list. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:31, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 07:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Blockade (novel)[edit]

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Non notable book, no usable sources upon search, just stores and mirrors. 💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 22:15, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Accept offline refs based on info below. Szzuk (talk) 18:03, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ferguson, Jean (5 September 1998), "Cheryl Finds GOD In A Twisted Forest Saga", Illawarra Mercury
Caterson, Simon (12 September 1998), "In bed with the greens", Herald Sun
Notable book by notable author. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:59, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Works about this Work
1 Human's Changing Relationship to the Non-Human World Deborah Jordan , 2014 criticism 
— Appears in: Climate Change Narratives in Australian Fiction 2014; (p. 41-55)
2 A Moral Fable in East Gippsland Stephen Prickett , 1998 review 
— Appears in: The Canberra Times , 5 September 1998; (p. 22) 
— Review of Blockade Derek Hansen 1998 novel))
but that doesn't really give us anything to go on. From what I can see, I can't tell if either of these are full-fledged reviews of the novel, or just some mention. Perhaps you could help us out by summarizing these sources or giving some sort of additional details. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:39, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I found a copy of the first one here. Not that much about Blockade.
Canberra Times, mainstream newspaper, 875 words, review of the book.
Illawarra Mercury, mainstream newspaper, 325 words, review of the book, repuplished 19 June 1999
Herald Sun, mainstream newspaper, 349 words review of the book.
How's that?
Additional, Heaney, Claire (16 January 1999), "The hard sell - Lukewarm reception", Herald Sun finishes with 175 words about the book. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. nowhere close to WP:Notability (academics), also multiple removal of SD tags Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:09, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Michal Ruprecht[edit]

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Seems like a clear case of WP:TOOSOON. Also looks like the page was created by Michal himself. Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:21, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Global Christian Network[edit]

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Poorly sourced article about an online social networking community, which makes some advertorialized claims of potential notability but entirely fails to reliably source them. One of the references here verifies the tangential fact that Microsoft released an SQL update in 1996, but completely fails to verify this article's claim that the "Global Christian Network" had anything to do with it -- and the only other sources here are its entry in its home state's business registration directory and an SEC financial report, which are primary sources that do not support a company's notability. In addition, this has been getting incorrectly conflated with Global Christian Network (broadcaster), an unrelated television broadcaster whose notability isn't being properly demonstrated either: that topic has been revert-warred in the past between a standalone article about it and an incorrect redirect to here, and even the direct inbound links to here were, literally right across the board except for its entry on the GCN disambiguation page, also expecting that rather than this.
A business does not get an automatic free pass over WP:CORP just because it existed, but there's no sourcing here that would satisfy WP:GNG or WP:CORPDEPTH. Bearcat (talk) 17:57, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability is not temporary, but it has to be properly established in the first place before it exists at all. Lacking references is not necessarily a reason for improvement tagging over deletion — an article could certainly be kept if somebody could show the evidence that the sources required to properly establish its notability actually exist, but simply theorizing that maybe the proper references might exist, without actually undertaking any attempt to actually find out one way or the other whether they really do or not, is not enough to get a poorly referenced article kept. Bearcat (talk) 19:32, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Consensus is that the subject meets Wikipedia's General notability guideline. North America1000 06:45, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ayu Nakada[edit]

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It does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (sports)#Association football. --Gonta-Kun (talk) 05:23, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Struck duplicate !vote from nominator; the nomination is considered as your !vote. However, feel free to comment all you'd like. North America1000 06:33, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • That makes no sense Tony. Just because someone dosent pass NFOOTY doesnt mean they can't pass GNG. Passing NFOOTY presumes passing GNG, but it is not true to say that failing NFOOTY presumes failing GNG. Further comments from other editors about coverage being trivial concerns the fact that coverage focuses on her looks rather than her footballing skill not being trivial in terms of depth. Fenix down (talk) 07:38, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. If a rationale is required, then passing WP:NOLYMPICS in spades applies; the possibility of WP:SKCRIT#2 or #3 may also be also relevant, but is for discussion elsewhere. (non-admin closure) —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 16:44, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Scott McKinley[edit]

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not notable Makro (talk) 19:00, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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If that is the case then why not include it I the article. All it consists of is on sentence and one reference. More is needed to prove notability. Makro (talk) 12:16, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:17, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

John (1803 ship)[edit]

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Non-notable ship; It existed and sank, that's all there is to it. Even if there were historical records that supported its existence other than this one book, it probably still wouldn't pass gng. 💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 18:53, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Lesbian. Redirect and selectively merge, as described by XOR'easter. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:23, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gold star lesbian[edit]

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As with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gold star gay, this is little more than a WP:DICDEF of a term, sourced primarily to examples of it being used as a phrase, rather than reliable source analysis about it as a thing to establish that it would merit a standalone article (the only two sources here that actually approach that latter standard are both blogs.) As I said in my vote in the other discussion, it is a thing some of my fellow queers say about themselves -- but it's not a noteworthy or WP:DEFINING characteristic of what they are, because nobody's really going around handing out real gold stars to anyone on this basis. This doesn't need its own standalone article -- what little there is to really say or reliably source about this could be entirely covered off by one or two sentences about it in lesbian itself, without needing its own standalone spinoff article. Bearcat (talk) 18:16, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:17, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shine School Media Awards[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. At the moment, the article is sourced only to the website of the organization. The bit about sponsors is not sourced at all. I did a Google search and found nothing to demonstrate notability, but perhaps others can find something I missed. Bbb23 (talk) 18:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:17, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mehrooz Waseem[edit]

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I could have PROD this but since I found some trivial coverage in the RS such as this, I opted to AfD'ed this..

So to me the subject does not appear to meet GNG and lacks non-trivial coverage from independent reliable sources.

For what its worth, the page was apparently created by the subject herself. Saqib (talk) 17:56, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Singers are not given an automatic free pass over WP:BIO just because they are singers and exists — their ability to qualify for Wikipedia articles is determined by criteria at WP:SINGERS.. You should provide reliable sources, not any source to establish the notability. Coverage in the Hindustan Times is merely passing mention. --Saqib (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There is a whole article on her. See this [9] --Spasage (talk) 20:41, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is some questionable dubious source having poor reputation for fact checking. --Saqib (talk) 20:45, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Neither htv nor hindustantimes are dubious. It may be stub but not a delete. --Spasage (talk) 20:49, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid HTV.com.pk is clearly some unreliable source which we should not be citing on BLPs. --Saqib (talk) 20:52, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
that is not the only one cited. there are three. combine all three, you have good idea of the person. --Spasage (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We don't cite gossip-tabloids over BLPs.And, the HTimes cover the subject in the most trivial of all manners.~ Winged BladesGodric 15:12, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:18, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jacques Charlot[edit]

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Not seeing any notability beyond in inherited. Slatersteven (talk) 17:46, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:18, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Our Savior Lutheran Church (St. Petersburg, Florida)[edit]

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Non-notable congregation with a non-notable school. The article was deleted and subsequently recreated with an attempt to show notability, but it still does not meet Wikipedia's guidelines. EDIT: I forgot to add that the article is also entirely unsourced. Bnng (talk) 16:31, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tanzeel Akhtar[edit]

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Article is about a journalist who contributes journalism, References all say that this is what she does but there is nothing here to indicate that any others believe that she is notable. Could be an autobiography, but it still isn't notable. Searches reveal more of the same - the subject writes articles, nobody writes about her. Looks like yet another attempt to big-up crypto currencies. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk   16:32, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ceel Gaal[edit]

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This one is a bit of a puzzler. Geonames claims this as an "unverified" populated place on the northeast coast, but there's nothing there. It gives as a variant a name which appears to go with another place at the other end of Somaliland. Mapcarta claims a third location, nowhere near the first two. I'm going to call it "fails verification". Mangoe (talk) 16:09, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Brady Brides (2017)[edit]

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Article created from content in The Brady Bunch. The spinoff series lasted a couple of months in 1981 and may be borderline notable as a standalone article. However, the 2017 in this article title is clearly misleading/incorrect; the creating editor should've placed the content into the existing title called The Brady Brides, currently a redirect back to The Brady Bunch. The creator also didn't follow WP:SPLIT/WP:CWW in creating this article, for which I left a notice on their talk page. As for the existence of The Brady Brides as a standalone, I'm not sure - it's probably preferable to keep it as a section in The Brady Bunch as it originally was, until a proper WP:SPLIT consensus is achieved. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:57, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of ongoing protests and civil unrest[edit]

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WP:DEL14. Fundamentally contradicts the spirit of Wikipedia:Recentism. wumbolo ^^^ 15:16, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@TheGracefulSlick: but we have List of ongoing armed conflicts which is also described by your argument. wumbolo ^^^ 17:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. No rationale given by nominator and from a cursory look at sources, no WP:BEFORE was performed. (non-admin closure) ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:25, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Engare[edit]

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renown UnitedPowersTalk 15:15, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:20, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Code of the Samurai[edit]

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Appears by all respects to be a non notable PS2 game. Lacks sources and I couldn't find any. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:02, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:20, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Daily The Patriot[edit]

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This newspaper fails to meet WP's notability criteria on newspapers.. Saqib (talk) 14:47, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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There's no point in posting that there is coverage, you should provide it here and establish the notability. Plethora of newspapers get published in Pakistan, daily but not all qualify for an entry on WP. Should meet the criteria Newspapers. --Saqib (talk) 20:38, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It meets the criteria. Please see again. If an article is badly written, poor reference and other issues, it does not qualify to be delete. Fix the issue, before tagging it for deletion. --Spasage (talk) 20:44, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If it does meets the criteria, why don't you help establish it? Merely saying something meets the criteria is not enough. --Saqib (talk) 20:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:36, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aircosmo Theory[edit]

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Crackpot theory aiming to explain ESP supported by an "article" of 1.5 pages in a predatory journal. PROD removed by article creator. Delete. Randykitty (talk) 14:32, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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o Delete Originally PRODed to give article creator a chance to improve content. Clearly a non-notable 'idea' with no independent WP:RS to support it. Having now waded through the source again, I hope the authors didn't have to part with too much cash to get this utter tosh 'published'. WP:BOLLOCKS applies here. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sal Ponti[edit]

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Delete Not notable for Sal Ponti. IMDB is not a reliable source. Reliable sources should be articles from newspapers, websites, etc. Even though he had a leading role in George Pal's film, "Atlantis, the Lost Continent," he only appeared in a relativity small number of films in minor roles. It also fails GNG and WP:NCORP. Evil Idiot (talk) 14:05, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I'm not familiar with this actor so not going to vote (for now anyway), but I did find a few sources that address him in-depth. One article earlier in his career when he was using the stage name Anthony Hall, a lengthy obituary (albeit where he was from originally) and a shorter one that appeared elsewhere. 12 3 GoldenAgeFan1 (talk) 22:11, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 07:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Trench (novel)[edit]

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No coverage in reliable sources. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:20, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The sources found by Coolabahapple below prove that this book is indeed notable. James500 (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hank Hamblin[edit]

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Non-notable individual lacking in depth, non-trivial support. Fails WP:POLITICIAN. reddogsix (talk) 14:08, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and redirect to Zodiac Killer#Other possible suspects. Spartaz Humbug! 07:22, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Loyd Stewart[edit]

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This article appears very sensational and badly sourced. Basically all the juicy "early life" material that makes up the bulk of the material is directly from primary claims made in his book, and can't be regarded as reliably sourced. Leaving that out, there's not enough notability left for an article on the man. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:30, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 07:22, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cornelius Lehane (novelist)[edit]

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Crime novelist who seems to fail WP:AUTHOR. Some book reviews but nothing substantial about the person to be found. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:24, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Actually, no. Pub. Weekly, Kirkus, are trade journals that review all books flagged by the publisher as significant. Our "3 review" standard for authors requires reviews in publication in other sorts of publications, these could be specialty magazines - it doesnot have to be the Times, but Kirkus doesn't cut the mustard.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:23, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Dorogi[edit]

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Non notable. Makro (talk) 13:17, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify. It's not clear that draftify is even a legitimate way to close an AfD, per WP:AFD/AI, but when have we ever let that stop us? But, even among the people arguing to keep, moving this to draft space where it can get a major overhaul, seems to be what most people think is best. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Poesy Liang[edit]

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Besides being written like an advert, I have serious problems with the notability of the page. It follows the same argument as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helping Angels.

From the "Sources" list (no in-line citations): #1 is 404. #2 Personal site. #3 and #4 are not found. #5 is an organization's site which may be connected to Poesy. #6 is a top-level link to her jewelry site. #7 video interview is dead. #8 and #9 are affiliated sites. #10 and #11 don't list Poesy Liang anywhere. #12 and #13 are dead. #14, #15, #16, and #17 are presumably saved interviews from her website, but those are not found also. #18 is a list of tips from Facebook users. #19 is a personal blog. #20, #21, #22 are dead. #23 is Poesy's personal site. #24 has nothing to do with her and #25 is a link to answers.com search. #26 and #28 are gone, and #27 is dead. #29 is a private blog. #30 and #33 are dead. #31, #32 are 404. #34 is actually a working video, but one television segment isn't enough for notability.

In short, there is not a single reliable source for this article. Thus I am nominating this article for my first AfD. Wqwt (talk) 05:32, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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https://www.nst.com.my/news/2017/01/201079/champion-life
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017/07/29/helping-people-see-the-light-through-artworks-in-the-dark/
https://vulcanpost.com/581171/5-malaysians-beat-cancer/
https://www.coindesk.com/art-bitcoin-inspiration-personal-finance/
If this is not established I suggest the article is 'draftified' as more sources may be published or found to establish notability in the future.
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I just can't find any online resources that indicates she meets WP:ARTIST. And even if draftified, the article needs serious cleanup since WP:NOTPROMO. Wqwt (talk) 06:58, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what WP:EXIST is, since it doesn't link to anything. But maybe she passes GNG with a serious article cleanup to add reliable sources. Wqwt (talk) 15:38, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
apologies, I meant WP:NEXIST, meaning sources are out there somewhere.104.163.147.121 (talk) 01:05, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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I got a kick out of WP:TNT. The current article has a section on swimming to train her legs and her "most significant claim to poetry". Wqwt (talk) 17:11, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:36, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Suburban Air Freight[edit]

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No evidence of any notability. Only reference is its own web-site. Searches reveal the usual directory listing, sales pitches and blog and forum mentions but nothing of any notability. It is just a run-of-the-mill small air charter company. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk   12:58, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:22, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WAPT (deployment software)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSOFT and GNG. I can't find a critical mass of third-party reliable sources, nor any evidence that this software meets other plausible notability criteria (it does not appear to be a significant portion of computing history, is not taught in school, etc.). A couple brief reviews and how-to bits don't add up to notability. (sayeth 49ersBelongInSanFrancisco and I happen to agree.) Kleuske (talk) 21:14, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Reconsideration of deletion of WAPT (software deployment)https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_national_de_la_recherche_agronomique (This is a repost from Kleuse page):
I have seen that you have followed the conclusion of 49ersBelongInSanFrancisco in your conclusion. But like I said to 49ers., there is not only English speaking people in this world, and although WAPT is currently mostly running in a French speaking circles, it does not means that in the good'old Europe it has not crossed borders and gone in other countries. English is still the common tongue, and having an English version of the WAPT article, even though it is mostly for non native English speakers does not mean that it is not relevant.

Please, reconsider, thanks, Denis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.197.250.107 (talk) 01:12, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Other items like wpkg or chocolatey do not have the sources you request. How do you justify that? I added some external link. I ask to give up the suppression! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.105.125.212 (talk) 11:31, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kleuske, 49ersBelongInSanFrancisco, I have added to the article a history section and a usage in French school system section with references. Regarding the Wikipedia:Notability_(software)#Inclusion that was referenced in the initial banner, I think that I have addressed at least two criterias :

Thanks for your time considering the subject. Cardondenis (talk) 17:20, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Cardondenis: Sources, sources, sources... If you make claims (of notabiliy), back them up with sources, please. Your say-so means little in this discussion. Kleuske (talk) 17:35, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Kleuske: Sorry for my incomprehension... For the second bullet point, the ref WAPT_(deployment_software)#cite_note-3 points to the ssi.gouv.fr site. I think more than enough to have a government agency taking interest in the subject (unless you'd say that France is just one those "sh**ty country" that does not matter much, but I hope not everyone has this stance on the other side of the Atlantic). Most of the technical stuff that is written in the article can be found in the document https://www.ssi.gouv.fr/uploads/2018/02/anssi-cspn-2018_02fr.pdf that is linked at the bottom of the ref'ed ssi.gouv.fr page. I think that report (please check the header on the first page of the pdf document) fill the "Reviews must be significant, from a reliable source" condition. For the first bullet point, I also added refs about university usage, technical school program. I'll add more links tomorrow, it is getting late here now. Cardondenis (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Cardondenis: If I ask for sources, passive aggression ("unless you'd say that France is just one those "sh**ty country") is not a good reply. Neither is regurgitating sources already mentioned. FYI, I'm Dutch. Kleuske (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ingane Oru Nilapakshi[edit]

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This page should be deleted because of following reasons: WP:V and WP:N Harsh Rathod 09:37, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) - MrX 🖋 23:59, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Kashuv[edit]

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Article about a Parkland shooting survivor who is known for meeting the president and developing an app. I am unable to find much biographical content on which to expand the article. Perhaps this could be merged to another existing article, like Stoneman Douglas High School shooting. It's debatable that the article would pass WP:GNG, but it certainly does not pass WP:ANYBIO. - MrX 🖋 12:28, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

wumbolo ^^^ 13:09, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kaizen Sports[edit]

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No evidence of any notability. Slatersteven (talk) 12:03, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kavachi Michelle Ukegbu[edit]

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Not notable - set aside the peacock label of a food and beverage curator, this is the bio of a cafe owner with a blog. Cabayi (talk) 11:57, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RedSeer[edit]

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Re-created article about a non-notable company. Previous nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RedSeer Management Consulting Cabayi (talk) 11:45, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of political parties in Indonesia. Sandstein 07:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Abul Yatama Party[edit]

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Not seeing any notability for party that did not get one seat. But an objection was raised to CSD based upon this [[16][], I disagree that it does pass the CSD test, but still someone has said it may be notable. Slatersteven (talk) 10:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Deor (talk) 17:23, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kotone Amamiya[edit]

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A BLP that lacks sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail. Sigificant RS coverage not found. The article is cited to online directories, commercial websites, and other sources otherwise not suitable for notability. ja.wiki article is equally unconvincing for notability. Does not meet WP:PORNBIO / WP:NACTOR. No significant awards or notable contributions to the genre. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:11, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Held[edit]

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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:08, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoever thinks this article should be deleted, I doubt you did anything more important than Stephen Held did. Denzel Washington also did graduate work at the American Conservatory Theater, but was cut after the first year, while Held stayed for two. Why don't you just leave it alone? I have authored dozens of Wikipedia pages for over four years, and have done a good job on them at that. --Powder River 1876 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Powder River 1876 (talkcontribs) 17:35, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese Canadian Cultural Centre[edit]

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I can't see how this is notable, not significant in-depth sources that I can find. Isingness (talk) 06:59, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 06:52, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kalprobaho[edit]

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Not notable. I looked it up and found a Reddit thread by the same user, so probably just spam posting for attention. QEDK () 06:27, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Opencola (company)[edit]

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Not a notable subsidiary, consider merging if there is any material that is notable though. Isingness (talk) 06:19, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Lexein:, "Not a notable {insert any noun here}" is a valid deletion reason for any AfD discussion. The notability of subject is always the most basic criterion of deletion discussions, whether that notability is assessed against the General notability guideline or the applicable one of these subject notability guidelines. OpenCola's founding is immaterial - it was bought out by another company and therefore became (at least for a short time) a subsidiary. Cory Doctorow's notability is also immaterial, as notability is not inherited, so no, that's not enough said. The point about the 404 sites is that those were the company's own websites -- if they can't be bothered to provide evidence of their own existence, it speaks very poorly to the question of why anyone else should care about it. Lastly, before you engage in personal attacks over other editors's efforts, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the standards that apply to deletion discussions and notability. No-one is obliged to prove anything to you. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to OpenText. Black Kite (talk) 18:38, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Captiva Software[edit]

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Not enough WP:RS to support this page. Isingness (talk) 06:16, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 18:38, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ishq Tera[edit]

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Doesn't qualify WP:NFILMS.
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:34, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Information Technology Association of Canada[edit]

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Non-notable lobbying group with material simply trying to inherit notability. Isingness (talk) 06:01, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:17, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Kirtzman[edit]

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This biographical article is largely written by the subject. Although he disclaims that, it is clear that most of the words in the article are his work. That violated WP:COI, WP:NPOV, and WP:Promotion and other policies. .     Jim . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:25, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Uhmm. Notability is less than border-line here. The reference appear to depend on self published books (and having books published does not make one WP notable unless the books are notable anyway) and other references are to advertorials. So, as Spock might have said “He might be notable Jim but not as we know it.” So Delete. --Aspro (talk) 19:11, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or rather, Blow it up and start again. Subject may just fall on the right side of notable (primarily for his ownership of property in Fire Island Pines, rather than for his journalism, see [18], [19]) but this article needs a hefty rewrite from someone who isn't the subject himself. Yunshui  10:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment: So OK, he has got his 15 minutes of fame in a very few publications but is that 'encyclopaedia' notable? Has Jim has noticed, we have a Klingon on the starboard bow and questions if we should wipe it off. written with apologies to Roddenberry Also note: Kirtzman Strategies is a self professed public affairs communications firm. So, if they make such a ham-fisted effort of creating a simple WP article – are they really as competent at what they claim when it comes to communications - if they can't even create a proper article about themselves? Scrub it and don't let them leave it to unpaid WP editors to improve their promotional article for them when they profess to be the experts at communications and pay themselves very well for it ! --Aspro (talk) 20:31, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notability is not established by asserting it, but by reliably sourcing it. No article can ever claim anything about its subject that exempts them from having to be sourced much better than this is, because notability is defined by the sources used to support the article's statements, not by the statements themselves. Bearcat (talk) 20:40, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your claim here is just wrong: "For the purposes of qualifying for a Wikipedia article, notability is less a factor of what an article says than of how well the article reliably sources what it says." In fact, notability is a property of the subject, not of the article. See WP:ARTN. Notability is ONLY a factor of existing sources, not at all of how well the article says anything. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 14:24, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, notability is a property of the subject, I didn't say it wasn't — but the matter of whether the subject has that property or not is measured by whether he has reliable source coverage in media or not. No article about any subject can ever claim anything that is so "inherently" notable that they're exempted from having to pass GNG just because of what the article says. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • MUST READ Jewish Times (Baltimore, MD) - September 4, 2009
  • First, do no harm Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (PA) - August 30, 2009
  • BANKING ON BERNIE - A PAIR OF NEW BOOKS DIG INTO 'THE WORLD'S LARGEST PONZI SCHEME' AND THE MAN BEHIND IT San Jose Mercury News (CA) - August 30, 2009
  • MAN OF STEAL - TWO AUTHORS ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN WHAT WENT WRONG WITH WALL STREET'S SUPERMAN. Sun Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, FL) - August 23, 2009
  • Reading Madoff: Books that rose from the fall Associated Press Archive - August 21, 2009
  • Evening Standard: How Madoff got away with it
  • Ponzi king Madoff had inexperienced regulators eating out of his hands, says book Asian News International (New Delhi, India) - August 12, 2009 Evening Standard, The (London, England) - August 13, 2009
  • MADOFF WOWED KID PROBERS New York Post (NY) - August 11, 2009

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No, the New York Times articles cited here aren't enough to get him over GNG by themselves. Two of them just glancingly namecheck his existence in articles that aren't about him, and the one that is about him is just a WP:ROUTINE wedding notice. That's not the kind of coverage we require. As to the other sources you list here, I can't speak to whether they support Kirtzman's notability or not without seeing their text. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What in the world are you talking about? Your position is that you personally have to be able to see the reviews, which you evidently can't because you don't have access to the databases, before you can change your !vote from delete? That can't be right. Keep is the default, so you should be saying that you have to be able to see them before you !vote delete. Anyway, they're reviews of the guy's book in prominent newspapers. That makes him pass WP:AUTHOR. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 16:52, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, keep is not the "default" in an AFD discussion. There is no guaranteed right to have a Wikipedia article: the burden of proof falls on the keep side of an AFD debate, not on the delete side. It is not "everybody is automatically presumed notable until somebody can prove otherwise" — it's "the people who want the article to exist have to prove that the topic qualifies to have one in the first place". That is, the burden of proof here is on you, not on me. Bearcat (talk) 05:35, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But I did prove that the guy's notable. I listed a bunch of reviews of his book in prestigious newspapers, which establishes notability per WP:AUTHOR. You seem to be ignoring this fact. If you won't even take the time to evaluate the sources, why should anyone listen to your opinion on notability? 192.160.216.52 (talk) 19:42, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 05:57, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Friend, you're mistaken. There is absolutely no requirement for me to find online versions of references, see WP:PUBLISHED. That's the first thing that you just made up. Second, having reviews has great bearing on WP:NAUTHOR, which states explicitly that "The person has created ... a well-known work ... [that has] been the primary subject ... of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." Your claim that reviews don't have any bearing on NAUTHOR is the second thing you just made up. Finally, your claim about Lexis-Nexis is silly as well. It may be the most comprehensive news database in the world and stuff, but subscriptions to it come in levels. Sadly, whatever level you have access to doesn't have all the reviews I listed, but other levels, in fact, do have them. Finally, your argument about the number of copies sold is bankrupt. Thus Spake Zarathustra sold only 40 copies of the first edition. Why not bring that up to AfD? In short, you can certainly !vote to delete, but your reasons are out of policy and basically invented. Clearly the closer will take this into account. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 13:23, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
First, where did I say "online"? I did not. Online references are really preferred in AfD discussions because then other editors can verify whether the references offered are significant but properly-cited references are essential. What I see above is indistinguishable from taking the output from a generic search and therefore has no probative value. Secondly, you are misapplying WP:PUBLISHED, which is about reliability of sources in an article. This is not an article, it is a discussion about whether an article is about a notable subject and proponents of keeping an article on the subject are not generally expected to keep throwing the burden of finding an verifying sources onto others. Experienced closers will most likely see it similarly. Even then, WP:RS states the sources must be properly cited which, as previously mentioned, you did not do. By the by, I have access to Lexis-Nexis through two universities, one public and one private. They are at the highest level of news access (although the legal document access is spotty on some areas) that company offers. I did not "just make up" my interpretation of NAUTHOR, you selectively quoted it to make the presence of reviews seem a stronger point. That's again not very important because those supposed reviews you posted don't check out. To the extent they are verifiable, they are about Madoff with Kirtzman being mentioned in passing or as a SME, they are not about Kirtzman or his book. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:34, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aird & Berlis[edit]

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Tiny, non-notable law firm. No sources here; can't find any significant elsewhere. Isingness (talk) 05:55, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:33, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cargo (cosmetics)[edit]

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Unsourced vanity page for a non-notable company; can't find any additional RS in my searches. Isingness (talk) 05:53, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was withdrawn. The nominator withdrew their nomination. (non-admin closure) -- Dane talk 03:43, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Martina Sorbara[edit]

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Not notable beyond the band she is in. This largely unsourced BLP has been tagged since 2010 and searches online turn up no significant sources showing her notability; notability is not inhereted. Isingness (talk) 05:08, 31 March 2018 (UTC) Withdrawing nomination due to new sources provided by Bearcat.[reply]

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Looks like you have access to a deeper level of news archives than I, will withdraw the nom. Isingness (talk) 18:24, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:32, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Karthika (actress)[edit]

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Delete: non-notable former actress whose career lasted from 1985-1989. Quis separabit? 04:40, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:12, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Information Minister of Israel[edit]

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The title of this article suggests that the article will be about the political title "Information Minister of Israel", presumably covering when that title was created or something about the government's decision to create it. Instead, the article is a list of people who have held this position, with no references. I did a Google Books search that turned up many occurrences of the phrase, but nearly always as just a prelude to someone's name. I didn't find any actual information about the position itself, and the original author has provided none. We don't seem to have any subject-specific guidelines on the notability of a position per se to help guide this, so we have to fall back on WP:GNG. What I get are a LOT of brief mentions in passing, but nothing like a discussion about the position. Maybe this article could be retitled, "List of Information Ministers of Israel", but I am not certain what is best here. A loose noose (talk) 03:53, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 06:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Set-n-Forget cooker[edit]

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Unsourced since 2006 and I can't verify any of this. I'm not sure it's notable even if verifiable; the term is generic and it was only marketed for a few years in the 1970s. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:43, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:31, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Spadafore[edit]

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Poorly referenced, and lacking in presumed notability.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. I'm going to go with the option that makes everyone unhappy and close this as no consensus. It has been shown by the !keep arguments that the school likely exists and is most likely not a hoax, but no strong argument has been made as to why this topic (TES) is notable. Neither have the !delete arguments made a strong case to overturn longtime practice of keeping secondary schools, particularly public ones. The debate continues... 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:24, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TES Public School[edit]

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Nothing in independent sources. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Please avoid using circular reasoning instead come-up with sources so it can pass WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 15:42, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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It takes 1 minute to list an AFD if one ignores WP:BEFORE, and about 5 if one does a cursory Google search, and it would take a many hours to do a thorough online searc--and an impossibly long time to do one in print. This gives a great bias towards deletion, especially if multiple articles are nominated in a single day, as here.
We do better to keep all the school articles and spare ourselves the time and effort of debating them--particularly as there were people who cared very much on each side, and each debate can be very extensive. So the practical compromise, is to keep all the high schools and merge all the primary schools. It has proven to work very well. The best way of disrupting AFD so we do not have the time to deal with moreimportant issues like promotional articles would be to abandon it.
For a more detailed argument, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/M.E Foundation Secondary School. DGG ( talk ) 21:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is another example of circular reasoning. Störm (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Current practice: WP:NSCHOOL which says "All universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must satisfy either this guideline (WP:ORG) or the general notability guideline, or both. For profit educational organizations and institutions are considered Commercial organizations and must satisfy those criteria. (See also WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, especially for universities.)" WP:ORGCRIT: "if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." No sources presented. Only the WIX website which is: significant coverage: Yes (website details the school), Independent: No (School's website), Reliable: Yes, sort of (self-published), Secondary: No (own website), Pass: 0 (Fail, can't count toward ORGCRIT) AngusWOOF (barksniff) 03:28, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • TonyBallioni, setting aside notability concerns for the moment, my main concern with this article as it stands is verifiability. At present, all we have is a Wix.com website for the school. I have looked for independent sources confirming the school's existence, but haven't found any. There may well be some available offline or in other languages, but as things stand we can't even be sure that this school exists based on the sources we have - a similar situation to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laureate Group of Schools and Colleges (2nd nomination) (although admittedly in that case, there was significant evidence that the article might be a hoax). Cordless Larry (talk) 07:25, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is enough to verify it isn’t a hoax, along with a brief Google search which also shows that. The concern is whether verifiable information exists, which it most certainly does. I’ve supported deletion or redirection of schools based on failure to meet V. That’s not the case here. The previous AfD also held the same. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but can't anybody set up a Wix site? I'm not suggesting that this particular school is a hoax, but I am worried that we are opening ourselves up to being used to promote hoaxes if we do not insist on reliable, third-party sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:24, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, but we have no reason to believe that 1) this school is a hoax or 2) that such sourcing doesn’t exist. Primary sourcing is allowed for purposes of verification, which is what we have here. My concern is and always has been that we are opening ourselves up to systemic bias by still all but never deleting Western schools while deleting every school from South Asia. There’s enough here to know it isn’t a hoax and we can reasonably be sure sourcing exists. Keeping it so that someone with access to better sourcing can improve it later is within our mission. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. It seems to me that saying we have no reason to believe the school is a hoax is a very low bar and turns WP:BURDEN on its head. I would be more reassured if the school's website had an official .edu.pk address - it's the fact that it's hosted by Wix that has me worried about the potential for us being taken in by hoaxes if we accept that as verification. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:47, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, that is what we do with schools, and also what the RfC commentary recommended if we actually view it as relevant. Those wanting to delete need to show that they've considered the existence of offline sourcing. That obviously hasn't been done here, so even under the RfC, the result is keep. If we go with a no consensus close to the RfC meaning that the status quo prevailed, then we also keep as demonstrated per the past AfD. There is obvious evidence this exists, WP:NPOSSIBLE and the RfC tell us that we need to consider the likelihood that it meets the GNG with sourcing (very high as demonstrated by years of AfDs and the past AfD), and we also are left with the fact that this article literally does no harm to the encyclopedia and is WP:IMPERFECT, which is fine. We know it can be improved, and retaining it so that it can be is what policy says should happen. There are no reasons to do otherwise in this case. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:06, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, "Most independently accredited degree-awarding institutions and high schools have historically been kept except when zero independent sources can be found to prove that the institution actually exists". Isn't this one of those exceptions? Cordless Larry (talk) 15:09, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here is it listed on a Pakistani District Court website, confirming it exists by an independent judicial source: [21]. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good find. I am at least now reassured that we don't have another Laureate Group of Schools case on our hands. Cordless Larry (talk) 15:20, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes. We are in agreement that all schools must be verifiable, and thank you for raising that point. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:21, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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that's proven itself as a good way to increase the work at AfD with no particular benefit to the encyclopedia . DGG ( talk ) 19:35, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why is proving notability of "no particular benefit to the encyclopedia"? The Banner talk 01:54, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, yes Cordless Larry I meant it complies with guidelines (rather than guidelines) to keep the article (as its a confirmed secondary school).Deathlibrarian (talk) 09:27, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to List of schools in Karachi. Sandstein 07:29, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Beacon askari school system[edit]

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Nothing in independent sources. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Störm (talk) 15:41, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Current practice: WP:NSCHOOL which says "All universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must satisfy either this guideline (WP:ORG) or the general notability guideline, or both. For profit educational organizations and institutions are considered Commercial organizations and must satisfy those criteria. (See also WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, especially for universities.)" WP:ORGCRIT: "if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." Official website: significant coverage: Yes (school website), Independent: No (school website), Reliable: Yes (self-pub), Secondary: No (school website), Pass: 0 (Fail, can't count towards ORGCRIT) AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Sigh. A year after WP:SCHOOLRFC and we still don't agree on what it meant. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:32, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

M.E Foundation Secondary School[edit]

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Nothing in independent sources. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 15:55, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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If one really worked at it, for any school established a few years, it was possible to find athletic or other championships, and for any fairly large school, notable alumni; if a US town had a high school, most of the people from its district to the state legislature went there.
Articles were nominated at such a rate that there were often 4 or 5 in a single day; since it takes 1 minute to list an AFD if one ignores WP:BEFORE, and about 5 if one does a cursory Google search, and it would take a many hours to do a thorough online searc--and an impossibly long time to do one in print. This gave a great bias towards deletion--and continues to give a bias towards deletion in most fields if one takes a very strict interpretation of the terms in the GNG. The bias was countered then, and now, by each WPedian taking a strict interpretation for articles they did not want in WP, and a lax one for ones they did.
We would have done as well to keep all the school articles and spare ourselves the time and effort of debating them--particularly as there were people who cared very much on each side, and each debate could be very extensive. So we reached a practical compromise, never enshrined in a formal guideline: we would keep all the high schools and merge all the primary schools. It has proven to work very well. The best way of disrupting AFD so we do not have the time to deal with moreimportant issues like promotional articles would be to abandon it. DGG ( talk ) 20:10, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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If you're going to bring up WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and how high schools are automatically notable, then please heed #2: "Most independently accredited degree-awarding institutions and high schools have historically been kept except when zero independent sources can be found to prove that the institution actually exists." Right now the article has ZERO sources, ZERO independent ones. And the top part before the discussion on whether SCHOOLOUTCOMES is valid cites that schools should satisfy "Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N), Wikipedia:Notability (geography) (WP:NGEO) and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) (WP:ORG)." first, most of basically means it needs to meet WP:GNG: significant coverage in multiple secondary sources independent of the subject. If the school is still worth writing an article about, then DRAFT the article and fill in those GNG sources. You only need two good GNG's, then it can be reinstated. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:15, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I would think this would be considered a good-faith attempt at WP:BEFORE along with my attempt. Has anyone found other GNG sources? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:21, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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So it's listed, that only keeps it on the List of schools in Karachi, not anything further detailed to meet GNG. Being on that list means it's a passing mention. Existence is not equal to notability, or per WP:WITHIN, only a few sentences can be written up about the school at this time, so merge or redirect would be appropriate until the article can be truly developed. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:07, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's not how we handle secondary schools. As you note: Most independently accredited degree-awarding institutions and high schools have historically been kept except when zero independent sources can be found to prove that the institution actually exists. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:24, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure that that statement accurately captures current practice, Innisfree987, which is not so set in stone. Historically it's true, yes, but some secondary school articles have been deleted more recently: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evergreen Public School and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Quaid School, for example. Other have been kept. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Current practice: WP:NSCHOOL which says "All universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must satisfy either this guideline (WP:ORG) or the general notability guideline, or both. For profit educational organizations and institutions are considered Commercial organizations and must satisfy those criteria. (See also WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, especially for universities.)" WP:ORGCRIT: "if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." KMC listing: significant coverage: No (only in a listing of schools), Independent: Yes (government posting of private school), Reliable: Yes (government website), Secondary: Yes (government website), Pass: 0 (Fail, can't count towards ORGCRIT) "A single-sentence mention in an article about another company" AngusWOOF (barksniff) 03:22, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Again, only shows existence, not notability. It's in a list, so redirect to the list. If someone has the research to find non-print sources for the school, they can develop it in the draft article. If they have the sources presentable to here, post it, and we'll look again. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:20, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Moove-it[edit]

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Non-notable software developer that fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Sourced only to non-third party sources such as the company's own website and PR Newswire, and a good-faith google search turned up no results that explicitly went into depth about the subject company, with most articles instead talking about business trends or being lists that make trivial mentions of multiple companies ("Top Software Developers in Texas" was one article's title for example). Also note that, given the new NCORP guidelines, special attention should be paid to the lack of in-depth coverage about the company. SamHolt6 (talk) 01:13, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Darrin Sharif[edit]

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City councilman, fails WP:POLITICIAN Rusf10 (talk) 01:23, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Except that no, I haven't "manufactured" anything. WP:POLOUTCOMES explicitly reveals that I'm correct about the state of where Wikipedia consensus lands on city councillors. Bearcat (talk) 15:15, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • What "significant coverage" would that be? None of the references hit all three: passing mentions/routine election news in reliable sources that are independent of the subject -- local newspapers -- or short subject-provided bios in unreliable sources that are not independent of the subject. Hell, one of the sources doesn't even MENTION the subject. Also, "presumed" does NOT equal "entitled". --Calton | Talk 04:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:RS doesn't say that geographic location of the news sources renders them reliable or unreliable. Reliable is reliable. (edit) Since Alansohn's argument was struck, I'll copy it here (in part) since I'm not under any kind of IBAN and I thought it was persuasive: The relevant policy, WP:POLITICIAN, makes no mention of prominent global cities...Above and beyond "international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office", WP:POLITICIAN also indicates a presumption of notability for "2. Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage. [and] 3. Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of 'significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article'." In his case, both criteria 2 and 3 are met with significant in-depth coverage about the subject in strong reliable and verifiable sources. Major state / regional publications like The Star-Ledger cover hundreds of municipalities, but limit in-depth coverage to a small handful of municipalities. Passing off such coverage as "local" is unjustified by any policy or guideline. The arguments for deletion ignore WP:GNG, which is satisfied, or the sources merely ignored. GigglesnortHotel (talk) 14:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • While it's true that Wikipedia does not have a rule that local coverage can never be used as referencing, we do have an established consensus that for certain "small fry" notability claims of purely local significance, where everybody who holds the same role anywhere could simply be expected to have a comparable degree of local coverage, a small smattering of local coverage is not in and of itself deemed enough to get a person at that level of significance into Wikipedia if it's all that can be shown. If all you had to do to get a city councillor over WP:GNG in lieu of failing WP:NPOL was show five or six pieces of purely routine local coverage in their local media, then every city councillor in every town or city on earth would always be able to show that.
    City councillors are a class of topic who have to have a credible claim to being more notable than the norm for their group in order to qualify for Wikipedia articles — such as by being so widely recognized that their coverage expands well beyond just their own city's local media or by being so prominent locally that they actually had entire books written about them. It is not enough to just show a few pieces of purely local media coverage, because there's not a single city councillor on the planet who couldn't show a few pieces of purely local media coverage. It's the same as the reason why a local business has to clear WP:CORPDEPTH on the basis of a wider geographic range of media coverage — if all you had to do was throw a couple of pieces of purely local media coverage in the article and call that a WP:GNG pass in and of itself, there would never be any such thing as a non-notable business anymore. Bearcat (talk) 02:15, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas A. Russo[edit]

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Struggling to find independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:BIO and WP:NACADEMIC. Promotional article. Edwardx (talk) 11:54, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Marriage. Sandstein 07:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Marital compatibility[edit]

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Essay. Is there a plausible redirect? TheLongTone (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Corrupted[edit]

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See film notability guidelines. Unreleased films are only notable if principal photography has been notable, and no such claim is made, or can be found on Google search. The film has been cast, but that doesn't make it notable. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:40, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Paiute[edit]

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This article has no actual unique content that belongs. Since "Paiute" is nothing more than a cover term for linguistically different, geographically non-continguous, and culturally different groups that were never unified historically, it should be nothing more than a disambiguation page for Northern Paiute people and Southern Paiute people. All information that exists on this page should be transferred to one of those subordinate articles. Taivo (talk) 20:19, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no "ethnobotany" section in the article. And even if there were, the ethnobotany of the two groups is distinct with distinct and easily distinguishable sources. If an "ethnobotany of the Great Basin" article were to exist, it could not without a major part of it covering the Shoshoni who were never part of the "Paiute" nomenclature. There is no such thing as "Paiute ethnobotany" as there is no such thing as "Paiute (anything)" that doesn't also include much that was never "Paiute". --Taivo (talk) 16:00, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You removed the ethnobotany section see here. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:06, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, right, I had forgotten that. That only applied to the Northern Paiute and since only one plant was included, it was horribly inadequate. Such information should be at Northern Paiute. Their food supply was far larger than just one root. --Taivo (talk) 16:20, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Did you add the cited content to the Northern Paiute article when you removed it from this one? Expanding the coverage of diet would be great. FloridaArmy (talk) 12:44, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read the deleted material? I'm a specialist in the Great Basin tribes and that comment is the equivalent of saying, "Americans eat grilled cheese sandwiches." Without an all-inclusive description of Northern Paiute diet and food gathering, that is a useless comment. It may or may not be at Northern Paiute, but if that's all there is, then it needs to be deleted as misrepresentative. --Taivo (talk) 13:23, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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They use the roots of Sagittaria cuneata for food. ref Fowler, Catherine S., 1989, Willards Z. Park's Ethnographic Notes on the Northern Paiute of Western Nevada 1933-1940, Salt Lake City. University of Utah Press, page 44 /ref". I would be shocked if grilled cheese was not mentioned in the article on U.S. cuisine. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:38, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey friend Taivo, we're glad you're a subject matter expert and stuff, but that kind of announcement carries no weight in a deletion discussion, see e.g. WP:CRED. Just like every other user, you're expected to give valid reasons for deletion per WP policy. What you've done here is basically stated that this article is nonsense and that we should believe you even though you're anonymous and delete it even though there are hundreds of RS that discuss the concept. That's just not how things happen in WPland, and rightly so. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 14:23, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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This is an topic that improperly combines two topics. There is no such thing as "Paiute". The information that is in this article should be in other places. Doing a Google Scholar search for "Paiute" is ridiculous. --Taivo (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Is a Google Scholar search for the term that the article is about more ridiculous than nominating an article for deletion without understanding the Wikipedia:Deletion policy? Probably not, I'd say. Maybe you should withdraw this nomination until you can come up with actual policy-based reasons. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 14:35, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The reason is very simple. There is no topic for "Paiute". Every reference in reliable sources is specifically to Northern Paiute or Southern Paiute. There is no common reference point to non-contiguous communities. That's why a Google search is meaningless. Read the RS's. Read the article, actually: the entire content is segregated into different sections depending on whether Northern Paiute, Southern Paiute, or Owens Valley Paiute is being discussed. There is simply no common ground. It's the opposite of a content fork, which is a false division of topic into separate articles. This is a content merge, where disparate content is falsely merged into a single article. --Taivo (talk) 15:52, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed per User:FloridaArmy's comment. --Taivo (talk) 16:08, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I have already edited the appropriate articles. Paiute is now a disambiguation page with appropriate explanation. Content has been transferred to Northern Paiute, Southern Paiute, and Mono people. I probably should have transferred the content to Northern Paiute people and Southern Paiute people, but someone with more skill at moving over redirects can easily fix them. --Taivo (talk) 03:28, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Close this discussion. I don't have either the curiosity or time to either locate or read the Wikipedia fine print, so one of the skilled Wikilawyers can close this. The matter is concluded. --Taivo (talk) 03:31, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 06:44, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of songs performed live by Nightwish[edit]

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This seems more of a regurgitation of information coming exclusively from setlist.fm rather than being worthy of a stand-alone encyclopedic topic. The intro here and all of its sources just comes from Nightwish. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:03, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. NWWT (talk) 03:44, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the vote. Nightwish is currently on a 20-year anniversary worldwide tour. This tour features a rare setlist with songs of all albums, including songs that have not been performed over 10-15 years. As Nightwish fans, we watch a lot what songs have been performed recently and follow it very closely. About the setlist column, would you suggest to rename the links to look similar to This one for Metallica? it helps a lot when links are available to see specific data. NWWT (talk) 01:40, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. To be honest, I am not a fan of external links in articles. References are important, but are these links really reliably sourcing the information? Setlist.fm rather seems to be a wiki itself. Where are the real sources? If you'd like to include further information, that sounds very good, but why not on the Wikipedia page itself? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:54, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
PS: The Metallica comparison does not fit in this specific case, because the reference links of the Metallica list point to the official website of the band. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:55, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless good references are found, sorry. I would keep the article, but we do at least have a WP:RS problem ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:59, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • And for what its worth, the Metallica version of the article has now been nominated for deletion, and currently is moving towards a consensus to delete as well... Sergecross73 msg me 12:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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