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Some people uses WP:INDICSCRIPT guideline incorrectly. WP:INDICSCRIPT clearly says: "This avoidance of Indic scripts only applies to articles that are predominantly India-related and is excluded from, among others, articles about Hinduism, Buddhism, or any of India's neighbouring countries." However some people are applying this guideline to other countries too. For example, see this. WP:INDICSCRIPT guideline also applied to Pakistan, Afghanistan related articles!! --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 22:13, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Avoid the use of Indic scripts in lead sections or infoboxes. Instead, use International Phonetic Alphabet pronunciation guides, which are more internationalIt doesn't adress which Indic script(s) should we avoid. Also, আফতাবুজ্জামান is confused about Indic script. It says, "They (Indic scripts) are used throughout the Indian subcontinent, Southeast Asia and parts of East Asia, including Japan in the form of Siddhaṃ". Hopefully, i have not applied this guideline outside the Indian, Pakistan, Bangladesh related articles while removing the IS. In my opinion, removing Indic script from Indian subcontinent and Southeast Asia related articles is not incorrect use of WP:INDICSCRIPT. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
This avoidance of Indic scripts only applies to articles that are predominantly India-related and is excluded from, among others, articles about Hinduism, Buddhism, or any of India's neighbouring countries.Please read again: articles that are predominantly India-related & excluded from, any of India's neighbouring countries.
Requesting comments for Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force#Numbering for the films table under Filmography -- DaxServer (talk) 19:08, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Requesting comments on Consensus for "Best PM" MOTN poll for article Narendra Modi. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:01, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi members, Debottam Majumdar, Rukma Roy, Ratna Ghoshal, Anushree Das and Malabika Sen are listed for WP:AFD. If anybody interested please help to rescue them. Thank you.Run n Fly (talk) 15:17, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Vijayanagara Empire for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Izno (talk) 02:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I am ExclusiveEditor and I have noticed that there is no WikiProject for the Konkan division of Maharashtra state. Konkan is a vast part of Maharashtra and there are many categories and subcategories regarding it, also there are numerous pages about its vast culture. What I have seen is that the quality of the pages can be much improved if there is a special WikiProject for it, and therefore I have proposed WikiProject Konkan here. Kindly support the proposal and join it when ready if interested. Regards ExclusiveEditor (talk) 10:37, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
This topic appears to have various spellings, as well as other possible names. Your feedback would be appreciated at Talk:Meenakshi#Recent move. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 09:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on the article COVID-19 pandemic in India regarding whether to make Superspreader event Kumbh Mela under seperate heading. Please tell your opinion here[1] Kichu🐘 Need any help? 18:37, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion on whether to rename the article to Ram Setu; the discussion is at Talk:Adam's Bridge. 183.83.146.194 (talk) 08:17, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
The article Shatamarshana gothra has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
The article is not notable, and is severely lacking in coherent content and sources.
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Unsourced, unexplained. Xx236 (talk) 10:29, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Heartbroken for India. I know it's off-topic, but I just had to say something. I'm so sad. 😢 Mathglot (talk) 21:33, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Thankyou for your support during these difficult times Mathglot. Kichu🐘 Need any help? 23:52, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place at WT:HV#Merchant ship flags of the British Empire re flags flown by merchant ships of the British Empire. Please feel free to join in. Mjroots (talk) 06:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
There is a request for deletion of article Godi media. Requesting for participation in the discussion - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Godi media -- DaxServer (talk) 08:35, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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The Wikipedia pages on Covid-19 in India are highly outdated especially the ones on the pandemic of every state. There is a complete lack of data / info between September 2020 to March 2021. Considering the second wave of the pandemic, we really need to update the page. Are any Indian wikipedians interested in collaborating to update these pages? Sitaphul (talk) 03:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Can we create a list of India related vital articles? It may be helpful in prioritizing the improvement of vital articles related to WikiProject India.Ankit (Talk with me) 17:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Can someone have a look at this article and assess its usefulness.
The name seems odd with the "and clans" added to states. noq (talk) 14:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
In Southeast and South Asia, many people use only a personal name, which may be followed by a patronymic; in such cases, they should be referred to by their personal name.
MOS:GIVENNAME (also redirected from MOS:PATRONYMIC) allows us to use personal names (given names) [and patronymic names] instead of last names - when the person is referred to as such. As I understand, this will override the MOS:SURNAME. Surely, not everyone is referred to by their given/patronymic names. WP:RS would tell us which one to use. What are your opinions, for and against using given/patronymic names and not surnames, if eligible? -- DaxServer (talk) 08:57, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Please peruse and incorporate the edits I have suggested on the protected article talkpage here Talk:Line_of_Control#Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_16_May_2021. Due to personal problems relatives to covid pandemic, unfortunately I do not have time and inclination to indulge in long discussion on that articles talk page. My concern is my hours of goodfaith edit and effort will be down the drain merely because someone threw a time-wasting stone-walling vague objection without substantiating their objections with "actionable/remediable specifics". I am deliberately an IP because I avoid addiction to wiki. In my long years at wiki as an IP, I find that there are many registered editors who thrive on notifications from wiki and they tend to do time-wasting pedantic things including throwing vague WP:DISRUPTIVE objections. This is slowly killing wiki because it drives away IPs. IPs are the most valuable stakeholders (much more than the registered editors and admins) because IPs contribute nearly 60% of all legit edits/content on wiki and they form nearly 99% of readers. Currently, wikipedia's editing system / rules/ policies/ bureaucracy / attitudes are geared heavily against IP editors who are treated as piece of shit (I'm one of those and have faced it regularly over last several years), and time wasting editors addicted to wiki create vague and DISRUPTIVE road blocks. I request some long-timer mature, competent, confident, experienced, editor to please review edits suggested by me on that talk page and take those to some logical conclusion. Thank you. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 18:01, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
This is especially affecting India. Blue Rasberry (talk) 01:32, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Home Shop 18 to be moved to HomeShop18. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 10:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
The status of articles on Supreme Court cases is terrible, as well as all manner of other things related to Indian law. Is it possible to create a work group with collaboration from both WikiProject India and WikiProject Law? I can sign up at least two editors with subject matter expertise who will work on this, but we need more. - Semanticz0 (talk) 14:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
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I've ECP protected the following articles for 2 months because of edit warring :
Extra eyeballs on those articles would be appreciated. Cabayi (talk) 09:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Im a student at the university of Sydney and part of my course was to improve a stub-level article. My assigned topic was The Polyester Prince biography on Dhirubhai Ambani, a famous Indian business tycoon. I just finished adding a lot of detail to the article and was wondering if anyone could take a look at it to provide me with some feedback. It would be much appreciated! --WaTErMelON690 (talk) 03:54, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I have created a Draft on Lakshadweep Reforms. Please feel free to contribute to this cause. Thank you~ Tawianomlet (talk) 18:48, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
This discussion may be of interest to members of WikiProject India: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Sportskeeda_generally_unreliable? —valereee (talk) 14:29, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Category:Indian Orthodox church buildings has been nominated for merging to Category:Malankara Orthodox Syrian church buildings. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 09:41, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Amit Mistry 265,697 8,856 Stub--Coin945 (talk) 14:42, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at D. P. Jadeja and checking whether the person written about in this article is the same person? If it is, then the article should be updated because the subject is no longer living. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:23, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
There is a big band of IP editors randomly changing Jammu and Kashmir (state) to Jammu and Kashmir (union territory). This is an example.
Please revert all such changes on sight. We have already converted all the links that needed to be changed last year, when the dab page for Jammu and Kashmir was created. If any more fixing is necessary, the editors need to explain in the edit summary or the talk page. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:00, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Are these articles about the same person? defcon5 (talk) 18:33, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Over the last several weeks, I've been observing IPs warring for lead text, like "[...] is an [[India|Indian]] [[Government of India|government owned]] [...]", "It is under the [[ownership]] of [[Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas]], [[Government of India]] [...]", and some other would rephrase it to something else. Some examples: Special:Diff/1027156039, Punjab National Bank and several others if explored further. Can we put an end to this? -- DaxServer (talk) 12:37, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Your opinions will be welcome at Talk:Bongal_Kheda (both the sections are relevant) and Talk:Sylheti_language#Issues. Thanks in advance. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:20, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
This article has been tagged for notability for seven years. I'm considering taking it to AFD, but thought I would ask here first.4meter4 (talk) 00:42, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Can someone help in cleaning up this article Sandip Soparrkar. I have tried to tone down the promotional stuff but it still requires work. defcon5 (talk) 06:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Shoaib Ali Al Amari is a Musican Artist Singer Songwriter Composer Music Production India
Early life.
Musican Artist
Singing career.
Musican Artist And 7 songs released Shoaib09777 (talk) 02:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi. The lexemes and lexicographical data about Hindi and other Indian languages is very less in Wikidata. Please contribute to it as it will be useful for many: d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data. Thanks. Vis M (talk) 13:04, 15 June 2021 (UTC) - Vis M (talk) 13:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Opinions are needed regarding this ANI report—are the reported edits a problem? Johnuniq (talk) 08:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Popular pages--Coin945 (talk) 06:33, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Lately I added and updated a subsection on 'Food in Indus valley civilization' based on two different scientific studies. One is related to non vegetarian food samples and another related to vegetarian food samples. May be some one wants to update it further.
I personally find WP MoS and DYK rules too intricate, complex and time consuming. The updated information is relatively latest and interesting, so may be some one can help to add the same to Do you know section of the main page or a portal page if interested.
Thanks and regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias are for expanding information and knowledge' (talk) 14:47, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated the article National Maritime Foundation for deletion. Your input at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Maritime Foundation is welcome. --George Ho (talk) 22:11, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Came across a recent lecture on Youtube by Dr. Sanjay Manjul, Joint-DG, ASI with some latest archeological updates. Though I am not fluent enough in Hindi language tried to understand with help of PPT & Machine translation systems, the lecture sounds interesting. Those interested in topic Indus valley civilisation may have a look at it, so it may help understand basics and create further interest to study research articles and update Wikipedia articles.
Thanks and best wishes.
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias are for expanding information and knowledge' (talk) 07:17, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
I see that there is a category under WikiProject India called "". However, I don't think that each temple should get its own article, it's absurd. Take a look at Chara Basaveshwara Temple for example, this Wikipedia article is non-notable, suffers from Original Research and contains only two sources. I don't think that such stub article needs to be elaborated. On the contrary, it needs to be deleted and then to be mentioned in an article that carries the same name of the category. What do you think? Space Relic (talk) 10:09, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
There is a locally published, non-scholarly book titled Saini Jagat: Utpati Ate Vikas. It was authored by someone named Surjeet Singh Nanua, who was apparently a "Non-Commissioned Officer of Indian Air Force" and has done postgraduation in English: [7]. This book is used on this project by SPAs to promote Sainis and to prove Saini ancestry of multiple historical Sikh personalities. There is no hint of it at Google Scholar, WorldCat, etc. So, should we use this non-HISTRS source for such contentious historical/caste details on this project? Sitush seems inactive, but Utcursch is also experienced in dealing with these type of local caste-related sources. Obviously, all others are also requested to give their inputs. Thanks. - NitinMlk (talk) 19:14, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
I am seeing an increasing number of edits claiming to add figures from the 2021 census - all of them unsourced, so I have reverted them all. Is it known when the census figures will be released? and, if they are to be released in batches, what the order of release will be? I have tried searching the Census website, but the search facility does not seem to work from England - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi I'm trying to get more people to add to the topic so that it dose not remain dead. [[8]] It is not my intention to advocate for or against it, as I requested the move, but it has gone nearly a month now with only 1 other person commenting on it. I have stated in short and at length in the talk page as to why I believe the move to be in-line with wiki standards. Rammuni BadaUdasin (talk) 10:39, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Could someone (@Sitush:, for example) take a look at Ezhava and Thiyyar history? Thiyyar redirects to Ezhava and Thiyyar history was created last month. --RegentsPark (comment) 13:19, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
The number of red links and uncited "dynasties" on this page is concerning!--RegentsPark (comment) 13:11, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
This article has many, many flaws and probably does not deserve "protected status". I tried to clean it up some but unable to edit it.Rammuni BadaUdasin (talk) 22:19, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
The sourcing of origins of Krishnadevaraya is conflicted. The cited book does not seem to have the word "bunt", and yet it was cited. The article was being edit warred over it and a few users were blocked. Requesting someone who knows the domain to verify the sources. Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 10:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
I merged Great Indian Desert Lines into this article. A rough merge so if someone could take a look, that would be great. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:50, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Today I ran into something called "Bharatpedia". Domain name "en<dot>wikipedia<dot>ind<dot>in". The page history indicates that it started in August 2020. Apparently, its purpose is to build an encyclopedia in "Indian English"!
It didn't know how to log me in. So I don't know if it is part of Wikimedia or not. [Well, I guess it isn't, because Wikipedia has alreay blacklisted it.] I am sure it is soon going to be bigger than our Wikipedia, because it will copy all our articles, plus also include all the junk we reject. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Appreciate your inputs here: Talk:N. T. Rama Rao#Consensus for "Greatest Indian Actor of All Time" CNN-IBN poll -- DaxServer (talk) 15:40, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Anyone know if this is a reputable website that can be used as WP:RS? Specifically, in this edit. --RegentsPark (comment) 15:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I need help with a certain user and his edits on certain pages on the South Indian state of Kerala. He has been warned prior to this for a similar activity (but the same objective) by an admin. The User:Kambliyil constantly puts in the terms "North Malabar" and "South Malabar" in pages on the villages towns and other places of the Northern districts in the state of Kerala. The administrative setup of India is Country-> State-> District. However he keeps putting in the aforementioned terms for no reason in the pages for districts and places in those districts of the state making it look like they exist officially.
One of the official Government(Kerala)-sites https://kerala.gov.in/districts lists the names of the districts at the administrative level. Another is http://districts.nic.in/districts.php?sid=KL From both its clear that there is the State and then of course the District. The "Region" is something that is completely amiss not just in India but most countries AFAIK and on Wiki too that I think holds. Also here is the "Region" list of India [[9]]
Please look at Kannur/Kannur district/Wayanad district/Kasaragod district/Kasaragod/Kozhikode district/Kozhikode/Malappuram district/Malappuram/Palakkad district/Palakkad. And I suspect User:Boschanot might be a sock0puppet of this user. It seems he around this same time is making these same kind of edits (among others).
Since time immemorial, the southwestern part of India, covering entire Kerala State was known as "Malabar" or "Malabar Coast". The entire west coast of the ancient polity of Tamilakam - which was present-day Kerala - was called Malabar. From the early 1800s or so, when India was colonized, the British named the Northern part of the state as "Malabar district" before Malabar was always used (as were other terms) to mean entire Kerala with adjoining areas. It was only for the next 150 years or so from the early 1800s till the mid-1950s, till the formation of the state of Kerala, that there was a place called "Malabar" (district). Since the 1950s, after Kerala's formation, there has never been at any level whatsoever, a formal or official term called Malabar (let alone "North Malabar" or "South Malabar"), in any sense. The entire state speaks the language of Malayalam in vast majority uniformly. Minor cultural differences are far more along the lines of religion and then caste than along district. In fact the main royal family in the Northern part of the state traces its origin to the primary royal family in the South of the state (as well as originates there) and the two have been in a tradition of mutual adoption of heirs for centuries.
I hope you do the needful and put this user in his place. Whatever I have written here can be ascertained to be correct by anyone here. Hope you help. Regards.NYCLover2016 (talk) 18:28, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
I forgot to add that my main issue is with this user adding the terms "North Malabar" and "South Malabar" in the Infobox and the introductory paragraph of the respective articles. As I said before the administrative setup in India is Country-> State-> District. So the Infobox should also I believe be in that order first Country - then State - then District.
The user concerned was adding a map of only the northern districts to the pages I mentioned above prior to this in August last year. And Admin OhNoItsJamie stopped that and warned him [[10]]. Essentially what he is doing now is doing the same thing verbally that he was doing in terms of maps then.
I would also like to mention here that though I have this account, I log in to this typically only on the home-PC or my laptop, but as I had internet access on only cell till half a week ago, I had messaged Admin Doug Weller as an ip on my cell, in mid-June [[11]]. I have mostly copy-pasted my message to him over here as it was he who advised that I post here. I really hope some action is taken regarding this user and his edits I mentioned are reverted. NYCLover2016 (talk) 08:29, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hello! Can someone please take a look at this article? I reverted @Vimaljadoun: changes twice due to poor sourcing and other other issues. They have now reverted me again but at least changed their sources (other issues still persist) They clearly have a pov base on this edit summary. However, I do not possess the knowledge to assess the sources they are using and certainly do not want to do a wholesale revert again if at least some the their changes are ok. Any help/guidance is appreciated. S0091 (talk) 22:04, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Listing this draft: Draft:Slayy Point, for anyone who is interested. Peter Ormond 💬 17:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Could someone with more knowledge sort out the situation at the following articles: Lavana, Labana, Lohana? — Goszei (talk) 06:21, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Greetings,
Request for Comment: @ Talk:Narendra Modi#RfC:Mentioning of Narendra Modi's marriage
Thanks for inputs
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias are for expanding information and knowledge' (talk) 13:22, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Please take a look at Draft:upGrad. It is a properly stated WP:COI contribution about an Indian educational company. Please tell what do you think of this article? What should be improved? Thanks! Peter. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 13:50, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Assam Vidhan Sabha constituency, Template:Infobox Kerala Niyamasabha Constituency, Template:Infobox Vidhan Sabha constituency and Template:Infobox state assembly constituency has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency. You are invited to comment on the discussion at wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 July 15#Infobox Assam Vidhan Sabha constituency. Thank you. 122.167.185.249 (talk) 10:58, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Please refer to this discussion where multiple editors have repeatedly raised the issue that the pre-partition of India invention and discoveries must not be placed in the List of Pakistani inventions and discoveries]. Well-respected editors on IVC, including Fowler&fowler have raided objections that the IVC inventions should not go in Pakistan article. Wikireader41, Gun Powder Ma, Huon, Thomas.W, Andy Dingley too have raised the similar concern over the years. But, the user S Seagal continued to demonstrated problematic Ownership of content behavior and as pointed by other editors he has been WP:DISRUPTIVE and pushing WP:POV by ignoring same objection raised by numerous editors. India with a common geographical unit with common name has existed since the time of IVC. Pakistan did not gain independence. India, which existed earlier, gained independence, and India was partitioned and that is how a previously-nonexistent Pakistan was born/formed as a brand new nation. There was no Pakistan before that, however India has existed for centuries before that.
As per established wikipedia conventions and policies, these belong to List of Indian inventions and discoveries. Sicne this is a protected article, I am unable to edit it. Please do the following.
1. Remove the IVC inventions from Pakistani article and move it to Indian article.
2. Change the lede of Pakistani article to the following:
This article lists inventions and discoveries made by scientists with Pakistani nationality within Pakistan and outside the country since the formation of Pakistan on 14 August 1947. As per the established wikipedia conventions and policies, place the invention prior to the 14 August 1947 in List of Indian inventions and discoveries. See also misappropriation.
3. Counsel and inform the editor of Pakistani page who are demonstrating the Ownership of content, to stop doing that, stop adding pre 1947 discoveries to pakistani article. User S Seagal in particular continues to demonstrate this behavior. Please address his behavior and his pattern of editing.
4. If S Seagal does not fix his behavioral pattern, then plese take him to ANI, or do something to fix this pattern.
I am a long time IP, IP by choice because I do not like notificationa and i try to minimize addiction to apps/wiki/social media. I am not related to any of the editors mentioned above. I have never edited Pakistan page, i.e. I have no conflict of interest or past good or bad track record with any of these editors above, all are strangers to me except that IO recognise Fowler from IVC related articles where he is highly respected by other established editors of the topics. I leave it in your capable hands to fix this issue.
Thanks. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 06:17, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of poor or no souring and possibly POV content. Requesting cleanup! -- DaxServer (talk) 11:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
yes i am ready but i don't know how do i get it Manya Bhai (talk) 00:05, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Editors may be interested in participating in discussions of currently nominated articles for deletion of these schools and colleges in India:
Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 00:31, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Please add any photos you find suitable for Godi media article. 122.179.65.171 (talk) 14:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Lobstobar (talk · contribs) has been changing the type
parameter in the Infobox company for the government companies and setting them as Nationalised ...
Do we have a consensus about what should be put for these govt. companies and orgs? Also, @Lobstobar: could you please stop these modifications until this discussion? -- DaxServer (talk) 16:38, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
public sector. Nationalised only refers to a subset of public sector companies (such as Air India, many of the banks etc) that were private earlier but taken over by the state. —SpacemanSpiff 16:52, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
[[Public company|Public]]as set in its docs (Template:Infobox company), or do you see a difference between
Public sectorand
Public(from the docs)? -- DaxServer (talk) 16:58, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Godi media § Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2021. 122.179.87.96 (talk) 13:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Do we put the "The Honourable" in Infobox at honourific param? I removed it stating MOS:HONORIFICS. Also, do we refer to him as "Justice Misra", or simply "Misra" per MOS:SURNAME? -- DaxServer (talk) 17:58, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Look buddy the thing is in India every person who is or has been on a constitutional post is address as with an honorary fics. The title defers but they are addressed with honour. So we should add it to the article. EditWiki45 (talk) 18:05, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
| honorific_prefix =
parameter. Professional titles such as Justice are omitted per MOS:CREDENTIAL. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:37, 30 July 2021 (UTC)Hi [[[User:Ab207|Ab207]], The link you provided as a source is the personal view of a person. You can see that it is clearly mentioned at the end of the article that the views expressed are personal. And personal views are not rules. EditWiki45 (talk) 01:24, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi Ab207, The link you provided as a source is the personal view of a person. You can see that it is clearly mentioned at the end of the article that the views expressed are personal. And personal views are not rules. EditWiki45 (talk) 01:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Ab207Yes he is a former chief justice but still one's personal view can't be counted as a rule. And I also agree that I haven't provided any source but that's how it is. EditWiki45 (talk) 05:55, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi Folks!! Would it be possible for some folk to participate in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramcharan Bharali Afd. It needs some expert input, to determine if an award is notable. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 10:02, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
There was an attempt made to organize the table district-wise at Telangana Legislative Assembly - Special:PermaLink/1036402292, but didn't look quite well. This would be similar to Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly. I don't know about other states. The MOS:DTT#Avoiding column headers in the middle of the table suggests not to put table headers in the middle to visually separate the table contents, but rather split the tables. The Telangana article, unlike the Andhra Pradesh one, if split by district-wise would only get one or two rows for several districts. How should this guidance be used in these two, and potentially other similar pages? Or would adding a new district column be another option? -- DaxServer (talk) 13:01, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
The purpose of the "access-date" fields in citations is to note the date of access for websites that can possibly change. For example, a typical government website that provides information about some geographical entity, without giving any author or date, might change silently when the next government official feels like it. These days, web sites that provide Covid-related data change practically everyday. Sometimes they specify the date, and sometimes they don't.
On the other hand, news articles, institutional publications, journal articles etc. come with a date of publication. They do not need an "access-date" field. The template:citation documention says so explicitly: "Not required for linked documents that do not change
". Moreover, it is the date of publication that is important and relevant.
Adding an access-date field unnecessarily adds cognitive load to the reader to figure out which date is what (especially when one occurs at the front and another at the end). For web-archived pages, we also get a yet another date: archived-date. That makes it a bit more worse.
I notice that the visual editor and other tools tend to add an access-date field automatically. I will raise the issue with them. But I also notice many editors depending on the automatically entered access-date fields and ignoring the date of publication. That is even worse. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:43, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
P. V. Sindhu is called Sindhu not Purshala.Subject is exclusively referred as Sindhu or P V .Sindhu in all almost WP:RS sources not Purshala and even in School and College she was called Sindhu .In this Indian name, the name Pusarla is a patronymic, and the person should be referred to by the given name, Sindhu.Her father's name is also Pusarla Venkata Ramana that is P. V. Ramana and he is refered as Ramana not Pusarla just as Sindhu. Readers almost exclusively know as Sindhu which is WP:COMMONNAME not Purshala. Further in South Indian names like Muthuvel Karunanidhi the subject is referred as Karunandhi not Muthuvel. Sindhu's sister Divya is referred as Divya not Purshala.Her name is also Pusarla Venkata Divya .Both Sindhu and sister Divya are called Sindhu and Divya not Purshala
Some Editors are wrongly changing her name to Purshala reverted it but wanted Indian board's opinion .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:04, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Sindhu became the first Indian woman to win two individual medals at the Olympics, having added to her silver in Rio 2016but not Pusarla became the first [...]. I think MOS:GIVENNAME (Culture-specific usages) (
In Southeast and South Asia, many people use only a personal name, which may be followed by a patronymic; in such cases, they should be referred to by their personal name.) supersedes the MOS:SURNAME (Subsequent use) here. I think we should follow RS and the MOS:GIVENNAME guideline for the subsequent use and not MOS:SURNAME. -- DaxServer (talk) 15:20, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Does the ((Infobox officeholder))
's otherparty
param accommodate alliances such as NDA/UPA? The docs said | otherparty = <!--For additional political affiliations-->
-- DaxServer (talk) 13:20, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
Imsamrat392 has created bogus pages – Bagnan (Subhadip Mondal's Birth Place) and Talk:Bagnan (Subhadip Mondal's Birth Place). An admin/ other editor may please see and do the needful. - Chandan Guha (talk) 14:14, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
Can anyone have a look at this SPA? Till now they were active on Saini-related articles and have done disruption at them. But today they are blanking seemingly valid details at Yadav (surname) in small edits. This might be an attempt to get extended confirmed status to further disrupt extended-protected caste articles. - NitinMlk (talk) 17:30, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
An SPA is repeatedly adding caste claims at Neeraj Chopra, although none of the sources provided by them shows self-identification. I have tried to explain to them, but they are not listening and I can't edit war with them. So can someone have a look at this issue? - NitinMlk (talk) 10:37, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed this userpage? It says "ahir gurjaro maachudo
", i.e. 'Ahirs and Gurjars get your mothers fucked'. - NitinMlk (talk) 09:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
A newbie has created Rod Maratha clan based on the non-HISTRS Marathi media claims. This is apparently the clan of Neeraj Chopra. Not that this clan article is a hoax version of Ror article. - NitinMlk (talk) 20:50, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
The draft claims that this award is the highest civilian award of India and it is equivalent to Bharat Ratna. It sounds hoax to me. An expert view on this topic will be appreciated. Hitro talk 07:19, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
--Redtigerxyz Talk 16:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Of course, I do not know Kannada, not even a wisp, but I have been told Google Translate has become quite good. Dineshkannambadi has already given the name of the deity in two images.
Johnbod (talk) 01:57, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Could I get some feedback on my merge suggestion of Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed and Death and state funeral of Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed on the talk page here? Dhalamh (talk) 12:47, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
There is a table in List_of_public_sector_undertakings_in_India#Public sector companies. One of the columns is ‘Government Shareholding %’. There is a site listing percent holdings. I have gone through some, but I found companies not on the list such as Punjab & Sind Bank. I wanted to let the wikiproject know that it’s incomplete and anyone can fill in the gaps. Manabimasu (talk) 01:06, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
MaysinFourty is a sock account blocked in September 2020. Many if not most of their edits [13] have since been reverted on the basis that they were made by a sock. This particular sock, for reasons best known to the owner, had made a habit of pruning promotional material from articles about corporations and/or commercial figures, and in many cases their concerns were quite valid. I would appreciate any assistance I could have with respect to reviewing the articles they edited, and removing the promotional info once again, or at the very least tagging it. Vanamonde (Talk) 13:18, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Indiaspora has compiled a list of philanthropists. Editors may want to create articles on any of the people on the lift who do not already have an article."40 Indian Americans in 2021 Indiaspora Philanthropy Leaders List". The American Bazaar. 2021-08-12. Retrieved 2021-08-13. From the article: Indiaspora’s 2021 Philanthropy Leaders List includes philanthropists from India (26) and from geographies with significant diaspora migration, including the United States (43), the United Kingdom (17), Canada (5) , the United Arab Emirates (8), Singapore (10), and Australia (2). Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:41, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Nahtrav (talk · contribs) was moving constituency articles from "Xyz (SC) (Assembly constituency)" to "Xyz (Assembly constituency)". I assume the latter is more consistent. Do we have any consensus in the past about the naming? -- DaxServer (talk) 08:51, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Another question: Does the chronological ordering per WP:SALORDER (or perhaps WP:CHRONO or WP:LISTPURP or something else?) of the elections be observed or should they be in reverse chrono as recent elections hold significance (see my discussion with the user)? I tried searching Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referendums for any MOS, but was not successful. -- DaxServer (talk) 09:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello fellow editors on WikiProject India,
Wikimedia Board of Trustee Elections has begun from 18 August and will last till 31 August. The link for voting is here.
There are 19 candidates in the fray. Please see the list of candidates here, along with links to their candidate pages.
I would also like to draw your attention to the complete list of 61 questions which were asked by the Community. The Election Committee of the WMF selected eleven of these questions which were mandatorily needed to be answered by the candidates. Some candidates answered the complete list of 61 questions and you can read their views in their questions, however please note there was severe time pressure on the candidates in this election and all candidates were genuinely not able to answer all the questions due to commitments in real life.
Please do go through candidate statements, their answers to the mandatory 11 questions and complete set of community questions before voting. Vote wisely, and Happy Editting. :)
Disclaimer: I am a candidate for the Board of Trustees Election and this post is only for information of editors on my home wikiproject - WikiProject India. :)
Ashwin Baindur (User:AshLin) (talk) 06:56, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Im pretty new to editing and I have a few questions on a recent edit that was reverted.
The edit was around movies which depict caste system in India (Ex: Dhadak ), and the pages had words like “Upper” caste and “lower” caste, which are predominantly used but not necessarily neutral. I may not be right in changing them to different words, “Oppressor” and “Oppressed”, but I want to understand how we can avoid “Upper” and “lower” caste words becuase i believe these words are again decided “Upper” caste people.
Im not sure if there is already discussion around this topic and the language,
Response for reverting the language: Arjayay in User_talk:Arjayay#Edit_on_Dhadak
Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagarikakumar (talk • contribs) 04:07, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Are there two villages named Chondhi in Maharashtra state, in Raigad district and Yavatmal district? There is an article Chondhi, with no references, which has been in the encyclopedia since 2015, and says that the village is in the Raigad district. A draft, Draft:Chondhi, has been submitted, which says that it is in the Yavatmal district. I rejected the draft, but then it has occurred to me that there might be two villages; but I don't know enough about the sources to be able to answer the question, and am asking here. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:35, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
I made a request with a reliable source (the Washington Post) here but for some reason nobody is adding it to the article. It will take 4 days and 10 edits for me to add it myself, so I request one of you to do it (I have been told to get a new user name which I will do right away).--27.7.9.173 (talk) 16:43, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Hope you are doing well. Just would like to bring to your kind notice of an incidence regarding the article Purvanchal Expressway. A user namely Akash Singh India has been continuously and constantly removing sourced data from the page. In the past, he has several times, inspite of being notified thoroughly of the edit war rulings of Wikipedia on his talk page, constantly broken 3 revert rule and engaged in edit war, while reverting and editing referenced info, making it one sided and biased, apparently inviting sockpuppetry allegations which now I believe is inevitable. Recently, he deleted the entire controversy section of the article “Purvanchal Expressway” which was sourced and put in by an unknown editor, I just restored the data citing unexplained sourced info removal, he has yet again responded with reverting, and mentioned this in my talk page, ”Good to see u back here. Tomorrow I will create criticism section in Agra-Lucknow Expressway with sources. This is just for your information.” I totally welcome if any editor edits or contributes to Wiki but am offended with the way he has responded, as if anyhow I was related to Agra Lucknow Expressway and by doing this he will probably take revenge, totally indicates that he is engaged in edit war. Also, there is already a section of controversy on article “Agra Lucknow Expressway”, I don’t understand what he meant to express by saying that he will create criticism page with sources, and at the same time removing criticism page of another expressway article. What I supposedly assume is that both expressways are built by different Chief Ministers of different political parties, and somehow or the other he has been violating Wiki neutrality guidelines with his edits being kind of sockpuppetry towards a political party. Secondly, on Agra Lucknow Expressway article he has been continuously editing the mentioned source info and presenting it biasly by adding his own views. Need your help, as his engagement in edit war has been far more number of times, he has been continuously broken the three revert rule and rarely engaged in discussions on talk page. Any user would be far disappointed with such behaviour from fellow editors. Kindly look into this. Shresthsingh71 (talk) 10:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
I have recently come across an article labelling someone as a "freedom fighter". A search reveals that the practice is somewhat common in Indian BLPs.
This turn of phrase is enumerated in the general MOS (manual of style) as value-laden and therefore to avoid, and it did make me uncomfortable. After some search, I found the context in List of Indian independence activists, according to which "freedom fighter" is a government-recognized legal category in India for "veterans" of the independence movement. There has already been two discussions on this noticeboard, but I do not really see a clear consensus (also, the latest discussion was 2017).
I do not see anything in MOS:INDIA, maybe something should be added? My (wholly uninformed) opinion would either:
TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 12:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Nor'westers occur in Bangladesh and many parts of eastern India and in the North-east. It is called 'Kal-Boisakhi' in Bengali. Some editors have bee trying to portray Nor'westers, particulalrly Kal Boisakhi, as a Bangladeshi phenomenon. My point has been that natural climatic phenomenon cannot be identified with a country. I have just reverted an edit on the Nor'westers page. I shall request other editors to kindly keep an eye on that page. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 03:47, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
A new user has reverted my edits because he believes that Indian and Pakistani publications should not be used here. Please comment there!--Baamiyaan2 (talk) 12:34, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
The noted historian Binoy Ghosh had mentioned that the rulers of Karnagarh belonged to the Sadgop caste. Some editors (with red links) are determined to change the caste to Kurmi, without any supporting reference. Will an admin please see and do the needful? Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 04:18, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello friends,
This is to announce Tag & Assess 2021 drive for assessing the class and importance of WikiProject India articles that haven't been assessed so far, a total of about 10,800 articles. The drive is planned for the period from 0001 hrs on 1st September to 2359 hrs on 30th September 2021.
The landing page for the drive is: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2021.
On this page, you can find :
Editors will be classified into two groups, less than 3000 edits and editors with 3000 or more edits. There will be 1st, 2nd and 3rd place medals for those with highest tallies in each group of editors .
In addition, barnstars will be awarded for those who cross 200, 400, 600, 1000, 2000, 300 or 4000 total articles assessed.
For those interested in automated edits, the script Rater.js has been tested and found to work on WikiProject India articles.
All are welcome to participate in the drive, including those who are not part of WikiProject India :) .
Expect to find periodic updates on this talk page and on <wikimedia-india> and <wikimedia-in-en> mailing lists :)
Happy editing, Ashwin Baindur (User:AshLin) (talk) 14:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Dear friends,
I wish to thank all WikiProject India Wikipedians for your support during the WMF BOT elections which concluded early this morning. My best wishes to all the candidates who stood for this election. A special shout-out to Krishna Chaitanya Velaga @KCVelaga: for all his hard work in South Asian community to make this election a success. :)
I hope that this election throws up at least one candidate from India. Regardless of outcome, I am honoured to have represented the WikiProject India community to stand as its candidate.
Warm regards, stay safe and happy editting!
Ashwin Baindur (User:AshLin) (talk) 07:01, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Ladakh is now a union territory. So, there must be some template regarding ladakh. .... Soumitrahazra
Multiple threads concerning this project are being discussed. Please take a look. TrangaBellam (talk) 08:03, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
@TrangaBellam: Very sorry, but you might have too many sites there. In my way of thinking, to have more than one is to strain other volunteering editors' available time, and to unfairly use the system to my advantage. Best, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Is Mensxp a reliable source of Indian history? For example this article used in the context of Baburi Andijani defcon5 (talk) 09:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Can you suggest me any good book on the topic? I am particularly interested in reading about Aurangzeb's maneuvers in and around Bamyan. TrangaBellam (talk) 04:38, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Dev Anand#Ban on 'black coat' mentions that Anand was banned from wearing black colored coats by the Bombay High Court. The source cited is an AmarUjala article which is in Hindi. Another source cited is Ibtimes article which itself cites the AmarUjala report. Can someone who can read Hindi verify the reliability of the Article or is it an urban myth passed of as fact?defcon5 (talk) 07:15, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
References
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:N. R. Narayana Murthy#Requested move 27 August 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 18:11, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Yet another one related to Allahabad-related titling. From the talk discussion on Talk:Prayag Kumbh Mela, I see that Allahabad Kumbh is the predominant usage (in Google Books) when compared to Prayag Kumbh and Prayaga Kumbha. Shouldn't the earlier become the WP:COMMONNAME and thus the title? The move log stated by @Razer2115 reads "Prayag is more suitable term in context as the event is mainly a religious affair." The 1954 and 2013 stampede articles were moved to include "Prayag" stating WP:CONSISTENT by @Hemant Dabral. What should be the titles for the them? Also, what about the 2019 Kumbh Mela? (Also, requesting comments on my edit using commonname on the Prayag Kumbh Mela article.) — DaxServer (talk to me) 09:18, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi Everyone, I've been trying to improve the article Blood donation in India over the past few years. Under the section for list of blood donation organizations, initially I added a few notable ones that had adequate coverage in reputed sources. Over time the list has been expanded with or without sources. I'm wondering if it is necessary to have such a list with sub-headers or just provide a broad overview of blood donation agencies, considering there are thousands of charities, hospitals and organizations for this purpose in the country. There's already an article on List of blood donation agencies where this section can be routed. Kindly let me know your thoughts. MT TrainTalk 16:25, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Should we tag WP India scoped articles with WP South Asia project as well (example) ? — DaxServer (talk to me) 17:58, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Hindutva § Adding new section on Dismantling Global Hindutva Conference. 2405:201:D01B:6A8D:398C:4357:788E:75CE (talk) 11:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
What is this eponymous article about? About 1000 books are published on topics concerned with India, every year. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:44, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Could someone have a look at Pranayraj Vangari? There's a lot of promotional stuff that will need trimming, but I can't tell if there'll be anything left after that. Almost all of the sources are in Telugu, and the two that aren't mostly show how little their authors know about how Wikipedia works. Anybody willing to have a look? It probably doesn't help that the summary of his wiki achievement on Telugu Wikipedia is currently being machine-translated and pasted across other language versions (examples 12). – Uanfala (talk) 22:37, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Namaste, editors of WikiProject India articles,
India articles by quality and importance | |||||||
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2 | 6 | 34 | 48 | 1 | 91 | |
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6 | 10 | 33 | 136 | 185 | ||
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2 | 2 | 4 | ||||
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24 | 56 | 173 | 465 | 718 | ||
B | 115 | 417 | 846 | 1,627 | 85 | 3,090 | |
C | 96 | 804 | 2,242 | 9,732 | 1 | 535 | 13,410 |
Start | 20 | 1,032 | 5,172 | 61,927 | 2 | 1,671 | 69,824 |
Stub | 1 | 309 | 2,457 | 95,549 | 1 | 1,530 | 99,847 |
List | 21 | 200 | 616 | 4,991 | 27 | 156 | 6,011 |
Category | 7 | 47 | 41,795 | 41,849 | |||
Disambig | 1 | 41 | 732 | 774 | |||
File | 12 | 7 | 1,450 | 1,469 | |||
Portal | 89 | 89 | |||||
Project | 209 | 209 | |||||
Redirect | 2 | 108 | 404 | 5,900 | 3,478 | 9,892 | |
Template | 1 | 2 | 4 | 6,257 | 6,264 | ||
NA | 2 | 2 | |||||
Draft | 28 | 792 | 820 | ||||
Assessed | 287 | 2,944 | 12,000 | 180,504 | 54,835 | 3,978 | 254,548 |
Unassessed | 2 | 2 | 69 | 2 | 3,307 | 3,382 | |
Total | 287 | 2,946 | 12,002 | 180,573 | 54,837 | 7,285 | 257,930 |
WikiWork factors (?) | ω = 1,012,558 | Ω = 5.42 |
This table is now up to date again.
It is updated by a tool on the toolserver; it will not work if the toolserver is
having problems.
If this chart is showing much more than zero,
then the table will be updated slowly or not at all.
The number of untagged, unassessed articles has gone up. We have over 7100 articles that haven't been assessed for importance, and over 3600 articles that need to be assessed for quality as well. Imho its time for a Tag & Assess drive 2021.
Our previous Tag & Assess drives were held in 2008, 2012 and 2014. Hat tip to @Ncmvocalist: and others who organised the first drive. My thanks to all those who participated in all three drives and did sterling service. My thanks also to those who unheralded, uncelebrated have been patiently chipping away at the huge backlog when no drive was on.
I would like to know your opinion on this, because it's Community alone that can make this a success. If we are agreed, I will take up a case for repair of the Tag & Assess script. Once its ready, we can begin. Of course if anybody wants to start off right away manually, most welcome. Just add #Tag&Assess2021 to your assessments and they will count for the drive, if it happens. :)
AshLin (talk) 04:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#AvinashCabral that may be of interest to watchers of this noticeboard. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 15:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
I have created a new article Draft:Kongthong (Singing Village in Meghalaya, where villagers use the whistling tunes as unique name for each other). Please review and approve (move to main namespace). I am a long timer IP (IP by choice as I do not want to register), hence enable to move it myself. Thanks in advance for the review and help. Regards. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 02:07, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Please partition the unmanageable "Automotive industry in India", a mammoth "mother of all" "throw everything in" article, into 4 separate article as suggested on its talk page. Thanks in advance. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 10:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
From what I can find Mandla Plant Fossils National Park seems to be a made up park, probably created by the initial article author, A quick look at google maps shows that the purported location of the park is actually the location of the Ghughua Fossil Park. I suggest either wholesale deletion of this article, or redirection and history merge into Ghughua Fossil Park. I'm notifying recent editors of that article and relevant wkiprojects.--Kevmin § 01:27, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
There is an ongoing proposal at the reliable sources noticeboard regarding The Times of India. If you are interested, please participate at WP:RSN § Circular references from The Times of India. Tayi Arajakate Talk 14:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
A little over two years ago I made a proposal here for "Kashmir-related pages," on what was then a perennially fraught topic. I pinged some knowledgeable Wikipedians. The proposal—critiqued and amended—has brought peace and quiet to that corner of WP—witness the leads and infoboxes of Gilgit-Baltistan, Jammu and Kashmir (union territory), Ladakh, Azad Kashmir, Aksai Chin among others. Even K2 now bears in its bodily frame the marks of its disputed status, as do the neighboring Himalayas. The people I pinged then I am pinging again. They were: @Kautilya3, Saqib, Vanamonde93, El C, RegentsPark, Sitush, MilborneOne, Chipmunkdavis, Abecedare, Drmies, Joshua Jonathan, Tamravidhir, DeluxeVegan, Gotitbro, Lingzhi2, Ceoil, Bbb23, Bishonen, Ms Sarah Welch, Moonraker, DuncanHill, Doug Weller, Philip Baird Shearer, Mar4d, Rjensen, HLGallon, Ragib, and Titodutta: I will be pinging other notables at the end.
I should warn that the proposal is long. It requires attention. Please read it when you have some time. Get a coffee or other beverage if you'd like.
This proposal has its origins in a post made by user:RegentsPark, asking how "scions of former ruling families" in India might be identified, and whether we had a policy for doing so. Before I launch into the proposal, though, here is a brief history of rulers of princely states in post-colonial India:
Moreover, in stage (3), which runs into the present, some princely families have continued to use former princely titles (unofficially) for certain chosen family members, or have styled new titles for them; in many instances, the Indian media has reported this without quotes or irony. The notion of "scion" is also at variance with what was de rigueur for the majority of princely states—i.e. patrilineal descent whether biological or adoptive. (Royal descent was largely though not exclusively, the province of males.) Four princely familes exemplify the ambiguities:
The characterization of Groups 1 and 2 is fairly straightforward. It is Group 3 that offers the challenge implicit in RegentsPark's original post. Here then is my proposal.
For rulers firmly in Group 1 (i.e. dying before 1971), it is proposed that we write:
1a X was the ruling Maharaja/Nawab of the princely state of Y in the British Raj from ---- to 1947. After the state was absorbed into independent India, he was granted a privy purse, certain privileges, and the use of the title Maharaja of Y by the Government of India,[1] which he retained until his death in ----.
Examples are Man Singh II, Jiwajirao Scindia, and Iftikhar Ali Khan Pataudi. I note that it is not my intention to have a regimented look on these pages. Creative but accurate variations would be most welcome. I note also that I am avoiding the use of the term titular ruler which is sometimes seen on WP pages of Group 1 or Group 2 ex-rulers. The term has many meanings and its use is best avoided. (I thank Johnbod for pointing this out.)
Added (12:18, 11 September 2021 (UTC)) In light of @DaxServer:'s remarks below, I have made the above proposal more accurate
1b X was the ruling Maharaja/Nawab of the princely state of Y in the British Raj from ---- to 1947, and for a short period thereafter in the Dominion of India. When the state was absorbed into independent India, he was granted a privy purse, certain privileges, and the use of the title Maharaja/Nawab of Y by the Government of India,[1] which he retained until his death in ----
For those in Group 1 and 2 (i.e. those who acceded to a throne before 1947, but died after 1971), it is proposed that we write:
1-2a X was the ruler of the princely state of Y during the British Raj in India from 19-- until 19--. After the state was absorbed into independent India, he was granted a privy purse, certain privileges, and the use of the title Maharaja/Nawab of Y by the Government of India.[1] However, all forms of compensation were ended in 1971 by the 26th Amendment to the Constitution of India.[2][3]
An example is: Jayachamarajendra Wadiyar
Added (12:34, 11 September 2021 (UTC)) Or,
1-2b X was the ruling Maharaja/Nawab of the princely state of Y in the British Raj from ---- to 1947, and for a short period thereafter in the Dominion of India. When the state was absorbed into independent India, he was granted a privy purse, certain privileges, and the use of the title Maharaja/Nawab of Y by the Government of India.[1] However, all forms of compensation were ended in 1971 by the 26th Amendment to the Constitution of India.(same citations as above)
For those in Group 2 who acceded to the privy purse, title, and privileges after 1947 and died after 1971), ... that we write:
X was the son of Y, the last ruling Maharaja/Nawab of the princely state of Z during the British Raj. Upon the death of his father on ------, X succeeded him in receiving an annual payment (the privy purse), certain privileges, and the use of the title "Maharaja/Nawab of Z" under terms accepted earlier when princely states were absorbed into independent India.[1] However, all were ended on December 28, 1971 by the 26th Amendment to the Constitution of India.[4][5]
Examples are: Bhawani Singh and Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi. (The case of a ruler acceding after 1947 but dying before 1971 can be worked out in a similar fashion.)
Finally, for those in Group 3 (i.e. those whose claims to royalty date to the period after 28 December 1971, when princely India had lost all official recognition), what can be said is somewhat more general, as the claims are varied and unofficial. Their language is vague, using expressions such as, "Head of the House of X," "Head of the erstwhile ruling family of Y," "Custodians of the House of Z," and so forth. A general statement can follow as a qualifier in the wake of various unofficial claims to the ancestral legacy. An example is
3a On (date ------) it was reported that X was installed as the "Maharaja/Nawab of Z," alternatively, "Head of the House of Z," etc. (with citation to the newspaper report). Although princely pensions, titles, and privileges were officially abolished in India in 1971, families of some former princely rulers have continued to use the old titles unofficially for certain family members or styled new ones for them. In some instances the titles are used for the purpose of officiating in family ceremonies and cultural observances; in others, they are used with a view to promoting the allure that princely India holds among tourists or among other groups which value princely traditions, and to sustaining the wealth, stardom, and clout that the families have retained.[6]
Examples are YKCW and Padmanabh Singh.
Added (11:59, 11 September 2021 (UTC)) In light of @Johnbod: and @Chipmunkdavis:'s comments in the discussion below, the above version could be simplified to
3b On (date ------) it was reported that X was installed as the "Maharaja/Nawab of Z," alternatively, "Head of the House of Z," etc. (with citation to the newspaper report). Although princely titles were officially abolished in India in 1971, descendents of some former princely rulers, and sometimes the media, have continued to use the old titles unofficially or styled new ones.[6]
I don't know if this proposal will fly, and if it does, whether by contrast, it will make these pages more grounded. I have benefitted from discussions with @StellarHalo:, @Johnbod:, @DEFCON5:, @DaxServer:, and RegentsPark of course. I again welcome their responses. Others that I see on this page are @AshLin:, @SpacemanSpiff:, @LearnIndology, Usedtobecool, TrangaBellam, and Redtigerxyz: and @Zakaria1978 and Ganesha811: on some other India-related pages. All are welcome. The princely states were a part of the British Indian Empire, and ipso facto of the British Empire. I am pinging some editors from that page: @Wee Curry Monster and Wiki-Ed: From those I have overlooked, I beg forbearance, but they are welcome too. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:08, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
The crucial document was the Instrument of Accession by which rulers ceded to the legislatures of India or Pakistan control over defence, external affairs, and communications. In return for these concessions, the princes were to be guaranteed a privy purse in perpetuity and certain financial and symbolic privileges such as exemption from customs duties, the use of their titles, the right to fly their state flags on their cars, and to have police protection. ... By December 1947 Patel began to pressure the princes into signing Merger Agreements that integrated their states into adjacent British Indian provinces, soon to be called states or new units of erstwhile princely states, most notably Rajasthan, Patiala and East Punjab States Union, and Matsya Union (Alwar, Bharatpur, Dholpur and Karaulli).
Although the Indian states were alternately requested or forced into union with either India or Pakistan, the real death of princely India came when the Twenty-sixth Amendment Act (1971) abolished the princes' titles, privileges, and privy purses.
Although the Indian states were alternately requested or forced into union with either India or Pakistan, the real death of princely India came when the Twenty-sixth Amendment Act (1971) abolished the princes' titles, privileges, and privy purses.
The contemporary master narrative for Jaipur and Amber is 'royalty'. This theme is ubiquitous in tourist publications, such as Majestic Jaipur (Wheeler 1998). Royal personalities are emphasized, as in Jaipur: The Royal City. One article on tourist attractions of Jaipur features a full-page photograph of Maharaja Bhawani Singh, in full regalia, with his wife and daughter, all identified as 'the present royal family'
Although Prime Minister Indira Gandhi deprived the India princes of their official titles and privy purses in 1971, the maharajas and other princes, such as the traditional Maharana of Udaipur, who now styles himself as the 'Custodian' of the House of Mewar in Rajasthan, retain wealth, influence and celebrity; in 2015, a twenty-three-year-old economics graduate was thus installed as the most recent Maharajah of Mysore.
The princes of India offer fantasy for post-modern consumption. Faced with escalating maintenance costs and declining sources of income, princely entrepreneurs transformed palaces into hotels where tourists could experience an idealised, pampered lifestyle of royalty during a democratic era. In 1954 Karan Singh of Jammu and Kashmir leased his main palace in Srinagar to the Oberoi chain; it seems appropriate that he became minister for tourism and civil aviation in 1967 in Indira Gandhi's government. In 1958 the Rambagh Palace Hotel opened in Jaipur followed by the much photographed Lake Palace Hotel in Udaipur in the early 1960s
Comment: Mostly happy with this, “former ruling families” is clearly correct in all cases. I don’t much like “During the period immediately after India's independence”, as the departure of the British also meant immediate complete independence for those princes who wanted to try it. There were several of those in the area that became the present-day Pakistan (see Princely states of Pakistan), no doubt fewer in what is now India. So we might perhaps say instead “immediately after independence”. I agree with what WCM says, but the loss of the princes’ dominions and power to govern came after accession (or at the time of conquest) and was involuntary in far more cases than just the few who were invaded. My last point is to ask what sources are relied on for “granted… the continued use of their royal titles”? As I understand it, the titles of the princes who acceded to India were recognized, as they had to be, see the standard text of the Instrument of Accession, especially “Nothing in this Instrument affects the continuance of my sovereignty in and over this state”. Later, that recognition was completely withdrawn. It seems unlikely that independent India *granted* any royal or princely titles, and if it didn’t then surely they just fell away through lack of recognition, like titles in Europe and other parts of the world. (NB, some European republics have actively abolished the titles of the nobility, that is, made it unlawful to use them, but others have not. I haven’t heard of any such legislation in India. Moonraker (talk) 11:50, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Political integration of India, a Wikipedia page to which "absorbed" is piped is about the period after accession to which you refer. It includes the instances in which the princely states were absorbed with what has been called "dubious legality" in Judith M. Brown's characterization.X was the ruling [[Maharaja]]/[[Nawab]] of the [[princely state]] of Y in the [[British Raj]] from ---- to 1947, and for a short period thereafter in the [[Dominion of India]]. When the state was [[political integration of India|absorbed]] into independent India, he was granted a [[privy purse]], certain privileges, and the ''continued'' use of the title ''Maharaja/Nawab of Y'' by the [[Government of India]]."
The slower rate of economic development in Rajasthan increased the sense of its distinctiveness from modern India, and the sparse distribution of its population partially mitigated the stereotypes of Indian poverty. Tourists sought historical fantasy, and Rajput princes have been packaged to satisfy this quest.The princes were not poor; their subjects were, screwed out of house and home for centuries by feudal dynasties. Again, it might seem like blogging to you, or off-topic, but nothing in what I say is untrue. I can find sources for Ireland too I'm sure. The popularity of the princes among their former subjects is no longer a given. Some have done well in elections; others have very plainly not. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:41, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Note that it says "Rulers of former Indian states," not "former Indian rulers." In that spirit, I'm happy to replace "descendant of the former ruling family" (phrasing I argued for at the beginning of this discussion) with "X is a descendant of the ruling family of the former princely state of Y in the British Raj in India ..." That would be even more accurate. Note also that the Act derecognizes succession itself. Obviously, "head descendant" would be meaningless, unless satire is allowed on WP. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:39, 17 September 2021 (UTC)The concept of rulership, with privy purses and special privileges unrelated to any current functions and social purposes, is incompatible with an egalitarian social order. Government have, therefore, decided to terminate the privy purses and privileges of the Rulers of former Indian States. It is necessary for this purpose, apart from amending the relevant provisions of the Constitution, to insert a new article therein so as to terminate expressly the recognition already granted to such Rulers and to abolish privy purses and extinguish all rights, liabilities and obligations in respect of privy purses. ... BE it enacted by Parliament in the Twenty-second Year of the Republic of India as follows: ... Notwithstanding anything in this Constitution or in any law for the time being in force-(a) The Prince, Chief or other person who, at any time before the commencement of THE CONSTITUTION (Twenty-sixth Amendment) Act, 1971, was recognised by the President as the Ruler of an Indian State or any person who, at any time before such commencement, was recognised by the President as the successor of such Ruler shall, on and from such commencement, cease to be recognised as such Ruler or the successor of such Ruler;
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Could someone take a look at recent edits to this article? I'm concerned that there may be BLP issues but am not in a position to figure things out. --RegentsPark (comment) 19:14, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Currently Assam related topics are under the focus of a number of ethnic-based SPAs. May I request some volunteers from this group to please pay some attention to those pages. The pages are: Kamarupa, Islam in Assam, Chutia kingdom, Chutia people, Ahom people, Ahom kingdom, People of Assam, etc.. Maybe some of us could put these on our watchlists and monitor the edit patterns. Thanks! Chaipau (talk) 16:39, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Some new accounts claim HHR to be the oldest standing Human Rights organisation for Hindus in the UK and one of the first outside India in the world.
Will appreciate if somebody can find reliable sources for the claims at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hindu Human Rights. TrangaBellam (talk) 08:56, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Suggest to add a direct link to this discussion page in the WikiProject banner to increase participation from other contributors, who otherwise need to click 'Talk' on an article (one barrier) then click 'WikiProject India' (second barrier) then click 'Discussions' in sidebar on the right (third barrier) to arrive here. The proposed change would reduce this to two clicks instead of three.
Suggest to change "If you would like to participate, please visit the project page." text to "If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, or join a discussion.", where "join a discussion" links to Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics (this page), if this is the most appropriate venue.
Regards, --Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 21:44, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Is this a historical person or someone from literature and/or TV shows? Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
You are welcome to provide your views and comments on the move discussion taking place in Talk:Allahabad as to whether name should/shouldn't be changed to Prayagraj. Thankyou 🌌Zoglophie🌌 11:59, 22 September 2021 (UTC)