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This station is not under construction and there are no plans to begin construction anytime soon. Therefore, there are very few sources for this station, and it can be adequately covered at Morley–Ellenbrook line. Steelkamp (talk) 14:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Article about a dance music band, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. The attempted notability claim here is that they had a single chart in specialty charts, like RPM Dance and Billboard Bubbling Under, that are not the primary national hits charts for the purposes of NMUSIC #2, and thus do not constitute an instant notability freebie in the absence of WP:GNG-worthy coverage about the band -- but the only other source here is an unreliable source that contradicts some of the claims in this article (compare our "MTS was a Eurodance project formed in Canada" to ""MTS was an American eurodance project created in Miami, Florida"), and a WP:BEFORE search found absolutely nothing else: apart from more unreliable sources, the only thing I found was a brief glancing namecheck of the song's existence as a song getting played on a radio station in an article about that radio station. Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt the sourcing from having to be better than it is, especially given the conflict about whether they were Canadian or American in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 13:22, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete - agree with the conclusions of the thorough before research by Bearcat. The fact that "In 1997, they released a studio album." is [citation needed] and the studio album isn't even named speaks volumes. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 13:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
I cannot find any evidence of notability on this young Slovak men's footballer. Search results in news sources only come up with passing mentions and transfer announcements, such as this one, but I'm not sure how reliable the source is. Notability is not inherited from playing for a big club or league. This might fall under WP:TOOSOON, but consider that AS Trenčín is certainly not well-known outside Slovakia anyway, I don't think there will be any significant coverage in reliable sources of Bagín in the coming years. ⋆。˚꒰ঌClara A. Djalim໒꒱˚。⋆ 12:38, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
This is one of many news agencies in Pakistan, but it doesn't seem to meet the GNG or even NORG which passes WP:SIRS. Most of coverage is routine and focused on the agency's own people. For example, this which says A photographer of NNI news agency ... also lost their lives in the same incident. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:21, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete nothing notable and no sources provided for establishing the general or organizational notability. Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 11:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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Seems to be a hoax at some level. I doubt this person edited/composed for these major films at the age of 5. The page even mentions “his compositions have been uncredited for years”. [1] and [2] are movie databases that aren’t reliable and any other verification is based off IMDb. Nothing I can see justifies keeping. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 11:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete as hoax per nom - I can only find user-generated sources. I suspect that "He is currently a student of the Lubiri Secondary School." and the date of birth are the only correct things here. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:28, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Speedy delete as vandalism. Look at users contribution history and previous attempts to create this obvious nonsense article. (I also think this have become a case of WP:NOTHERE.) --ZimZalaBimtalk 12:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Delete. Almost no information about the nominal subject. For example, "While Finland became a member of NATO in 2023, Cyprus has never been a member of NATO": what has that to do with Cyprus–Finland relations? Athel cb (talk) 09:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Exactly. I had the same question. LibStar (talk) 10:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete. Virtually unknown in France, let alone anywhere else. Athel cb (talk) 10:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Redirect to Merzak_Allouache#Selected_filmography: Notable cast, a few reliable websites in French allow verification and contain a rating, so opposed to deletion and redirecting to director is a good altenative to deletion. Not opposed to keep. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. A search under his name and "Anthony Langdon" yielded no sources. LibStar (talk) 09:21, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
This is the same sort of case as Vladyslav Kalyn, Yaroslav Kysil and Roman Savchenko (footballer), all recently deleted young Ukrainian footballers with no significant coverage from independent sources. To qualify for an article, there must be multiple instances of significant coverage to pass WP:SPORTBASIC and WP:GNG. Please note that notability is WP:NOTINHERITED from playing for a notable club or notable league and that pointing out that other non-notable players also have articles is not a relevant reason to keep. WP:NSPORTS2022 confirms that the cameo appearances for Chornomorets are not sufficient for notability under current consensus. The references included are trivial; UA Football is a mere squad list mention and Sport.ua is likewise just as bad. Likewise, I found Sport Arena, a trivial mention in the match report and goal listing at the bottom, and Rivne, which lists him in the U19 squad list and mentions him once further in the prose. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
There are no decent sources at all per nomination. ⋆。˚꒰ঌClara A. Djalim໒꒱˚。⋆ 12:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete and consider SALT to protect the page permanently from further re-creation. If anyone could find similar articles of sportspeople from any country, I have no prejudice against nominating them for deletion. @Spiderone: I was wondering... Is there any article of such youth athletes at the moment that pass WP:GNG? It seems quite unfair since almost no media cover significant coverage of them. ⋆。˚꒰ঌClara A. Djalim໒꒱˚。⋆ 12:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
There are plenty of young footballers that meet GNG. Nestory Irankunda and Claudio Echeverri are both the same age as Pshenychnyuk but have achieved way more coverage than him and therefore pass GNG. Age is not the issue, it's simply just the fact that not every professional footballer warrants an article because, simply put, nobody has cared enough to write at length about Pshenychnyuk yet. He may well become notable in the future but he may also disappear into obscurity like tens of thousands of others. It's not our job as editors to predict who will be notable so we are best waiting until they get big coverage like Irankunda, Lamine Yamal etc. before creating an article. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Seems to fail WP:NBIO. The Russian sources on this person's activities presented in the article are either blogs or very insignificant media. The conformity of WP:POLITICIAN and WP:SINGER criteria are also failed. Dantiras (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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Help! Can't find any reviews of the Beatles books written by this guy, hence failing WP:NAUTHOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
There are at least two sigcov reviews of his books on ProQuest. 1 for Beatles For Sale, 1 for All Together Now. That's not quite there but I can't do an in depth check now - however, it's not nothing. I will vote after I have done a better check. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:56, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Does one of the ProQuest articles include a review from The Spectator? A review for All Together Now shows up in Google Search, but it's a dead link and not archived from what I can tell. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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Comment judging from the Spanish article, it's likely that if the main article was brought to FA level comprehensiveness a biography should be written on him per size split reasons, given that he is one of the key figures in one of the deadliest terror attacks ever. So, if this is merged, I would not oppose it being split out again at some time. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Also, he does have (not counting life sentences), the third longest prison sentence of all time. I feel that is perhaps a claim to notability. From what I'm looking at an article could definitely be written on him - BLP1E is for low level crimes, not ones that kill nearly 200 people. The other two conditions of the policy are the person being a "low profile individual" (he is not) and that the event not be a SIGNIFICANT historical event in which the role of the person is well documented (he is). So he does not fail BLP1E. With more notorious cases there are often the sources to write both, and the reason he is the one with an article is because he seemed to be one of the more prominent figures. Same reason we have an article on Mohamed Atta. So either keep or merge for now. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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The article fails WP:GNG, all its source are primary sources from about 100 years ago, written by "race theorists" (see Scientific racism). We already have Nordic race and that seems enough. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Merge to the main article. Not actually as many BLP issues as I thought from the title, just a list of those convicted + one high profile very studied false arrest. The main article actually does not have a list of the men convicted of directly perpetrating the attack. The other sections are perhaps unnecessary but I feel a list of the main perpetrators would improve the main article. It appears unsourced but it is sourced to the Guardian article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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One notable Peter, another not so notable and one partial match can all be handled by one or two hatnotes in Peter Rowley. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep there's definitely a primary topic, but 3 other entries readers may be looking for, and this page then might be WP:USEFUL for them. All 3 entries meet MOS:DABMENTION or have an article, and there is also a valid see also. Boleyn (talk) 07:53, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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NNPI is one of many, many unremarkable categories of Controlled Unclassified Information, to where this article should redirect. Longhornsg (talk) 05:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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WP:PROMO and fails WP:GNG. KARNAC was mentioned in one promotional article in 2001 ([5], which was mentioned in WP:PASSING in one Radio Free Europe article 4 years ago, with no update as to whether this software was actually created. Longhornsg (talk) 05:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Weak keep. There is sigcov in a 2009 book for two pages but it is discussed seemingly as a kind of hypothetical-ish thing. Discussed in several books from the 2010s as well, i less lengthy pieces. I would argue it is at least somewhat notable as a proposal - there is a decent amount of newspaper criticism of just the concept. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep per PARAKANYAA. No indication of WP:PROMO in the article. James500 (talk) 09:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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Not yet notable per WP:MUSICBIO. Her main claim to notability appears to be her collaboration with Mick Simpson, whose own notability remains unclear, but in any case on Wikipedia notability is not inherited. The only coverage I could find of her in a WP:BEFORE search is in music blogs, with no significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources. Wikishovel (talk) 05:42, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
The production of this artist is wide and easily verifiable on all music distribution platforms. We are not talking about self-productions but about productions of a real and recognized music label. The same streams and visions are public and demonstrate the truthfulness of what is written. Furthermore, the sources, although considered "secondary" are reliable and truthful. I believe that the request for cancellation is excessive.. 2A0D:3344:244D:4410:D521:A9AE:8355:ADEC (talk) 10:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — 2A0D:3344:244D:4410:D521:A9AE:8355:ADEC (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
The production of this artist is wide and easily verifiable on all music distribution platforms. We are not talking about self-productions but about productions of a real and recognized music label. The same streams and visions are public and demonstrate the truthfulness of what is written. Furthermore, the sources, although considered "secondary" are reliable and truthful. I believe that the request for cancellation is excessive.. Salvacarb (talk) 18:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Salvacarb (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Delete per nom. Jdcomix (talk) 22:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412T 02:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep: standard WP:SPLITLIST, see Category:Technology company timelines. No blatantly promotional language visible, nor is the alleged UPE issue discussed on the TP, so that the tag could, or even should, have been removed. Might need some cleanup. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412T 02:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412T 02:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412T 02:54, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412T 02:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and New York. BD2412T 02:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412T 02:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412T 02:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412T 02:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Comment: The Evening Times from 1978 (here and here) states that they were the "Australian under-21 champion". It's not clear what Australian under-21 competition is being referred to, however this may go towards passing WP:NMOTORSPORT. TarnishedPathtalk 10:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Some coverage here and here; also found a brief bit from Old Bike Australasia two years ago ("Danny Kennedy, born in Ballarat in 1958, enjoyed seven seasons in UK from 1976 to 1982, the last four years riding for the Poole Pirates, where he was immensely popular. Sadly he died from a brain tumour in 1993."). What makes the book sources in the article primary? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep per TarnishedPath's and BeanieFan11's recommendations. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Keep: Per BeanieFan11's and my comments above. TarnishedPathtalk 05:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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Delete: Promotional. No SIGCOV or GNG met. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 01:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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I can't see that this has WP:SIGCOV in multiple independent reliable sources or that they meet WP:NACTOR. The article itself lists roles in multiple TV series and TV movies, however I can't see reliable sourcing to support the claims. The only independent reliable source which has SIGCOV I could find in an WP:BEFORE was this. TarnishedPathtalk 01:57, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete: per nom. Not enough coverage to write a verifiable article and certainly not enough to establish notability. I can't find any significant coverage. The CBC article linked is about Tim Williams (actor), not this guy. CFA💬 02:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Move to draft. Tag everything that is uncited as ((citation needed)) and tag everything that is cited to IMDb as ((better citation needed)). BD2412T 03:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Just two transclusions of this navbox, no main article, and two links in the body. Also redundant to ((Kazuhiko Yamaguchi)). – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Navbox with no main article, one transclusion, and just one blue link that links to an article about a Culver City neighborhood. Created in 2007; if the articles haven't been created yet, they may never be created. Until they are, this navbox is not useful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
The file is the DVD cover of The Gay Agenda: The March On Washington, a homophobic video series that was used in the article gay agenda. While the video series is the concept's origin, the DVD cover is only an illustration that is well described by the article's text. Neither the article is about the DVD itself, so ((Non-free video cover)) does not apply as well. WP:NFCC#8 is therefore likely to be violated, and the file should be deleted. 廣九直通車 (talk) 09:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
If we create more, is that acceptable? But it's difficult via mobile and I don't have desktop access at the moment. Kailash29792(talk) 14:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Improperly named category newly created for just one thing. A category for this would be fine if there were several types of SNVI vehicles with articles to file in it, although it would have to be renamed to decapitalize the word "vehicles" -- but none do, so this isn't already necessary for just one thing. Bearcat (talk) 12:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale:rename for consistency, in conjunction with denonyms (as in the subcategories) we use "by nationality". Marcocapelle (talk) 11:15, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:Interwar Baltic state coups d'état and coup attempts
Move to full. I support the rename, but... I want to take this to full because this category doesn't seem defining. There's no parent category for Category:Militant activists. How is this different from the parent category Category:Korean guerrillas? Mason (talk) 00:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
@Seefooddiet and Smasongarrison: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale:delete, unclear scope because Livonia and Courland have never exactly been "provinces". They have been duchies, vassal states of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth and governorates of the Russian Empire. Both subcategories are also in parent Category:History of the Baltic states which seems to be a more obvious place to sit in. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale:rename, few of these monarchs were monarch of the entirety of South Africa so "in" is a better preposition. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: I don't know why this category for Beyoncé's family is named after the surname of her non-notable maternal grandfather and much less famous cousin Angela Beyincé. Her mother (Tina Knowles) was born with the surname "Beyonce". On the other hand, her father (Mathew Knowles) has an article and his surname is more well-known. It would be best to expand this category to include all members of Beyoncé's and Jay-Z's family, with the focus on them since they are objectively the most notable members. Mclay1 (talk) 04:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
No mention at target page, nor anywhere within Wikipedia for that matter. Unable to find WP:GNG worthy mentions for original page as well. SmittenGalaxy|talk! 06:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep - plausible search term. Feel free to retarget somewhere in the series article Mario Party if you feel compelled. Sergecross73msg me 22:22, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Dab page. While I don't like it, I think a dab page at the target would be the best solution. There is no one target in Mario Party where a link can go to, as that article is not sorted by console. The nom is right though, that having this link to one specific game is not ideal. Gonnym (talk) 11:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to Mario Party#Super Mario Party (2018), where Super Mario Party and Jamboree are both discussed in succession. Most people using this search term are looking for the first Mario Party to be released on the Switch, and if not, Jamboree (and Superstars) information is just below. Utopes(talk / cont) 00:19, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Mario Party: Island Tour is not the only Mario Party game for the 3DS. Mia Mahey (talk) 20:22, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep - plausible search term. Feel free to retarget somewhere in the series article Mario Party if you feel compelled. Sergecross73msg me 02:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Dab page. While I don't like it, I think a dab page at the target would be the best solution. There is no one target in Mario Party where a link can go to, as that article is not sorted by console. The nom is right though, that having this link to one specific game is not ideal. Gonnym (talk) 11:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to Mario Party#Mario Party: Island Tour (2013), where Island Tour and Star Rush are both discussed in succession. Most people using this search term are looking for the first Mario Party to be released on the 3DS, and if not, Star Rush information (and top 100) is just below. Utopes(talk / cont) 00:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Mario Party: Island Tour is not the only Mario Party game for the 3DS. Mia Mahey (talk) 20:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep - plausible search term. Feel free to retarget somewhere in the series article Mario Party if you feel compelled. Sergecross73msg me 20:29, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
This redirect does not help readers looking for any other Mario Party game released on the Nintendo 3DS. Three Mario Party games were released on the Nintendo 64, and Mario Party 64 is a disambiguation page. Mia Mahey (talk) 20:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
It's helpful if the reader is looking for Mario Party games on the 3DS. Like I said, retarget if you think it helps, but don't delete. Sergecross73msg me 22:20, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Just want to point out that I think it should fit the logic of the Mario Party 64 page, i.e. a page letting one choose between any of the 3DS Mario Party games. ButterCashier (talk) 22:08, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Dab page. While I don't like it, I think a dab page at the target would be the best solution. There is no one target in Mario Party where a link can go to, as that article is not sorted by console. The nom is right though, that having this link to one specific game is not ideal. Gonnym (talk) 11:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to Mario Party#Mario Party: Island Tour (2013), where Island Tour and Star Rush are both discussed in succession. Most people using this search term are looking for the first Mario Party to be released on the 3DS, and if not, Star Rush information (and Top 100 information) is just below. Utopes(talk / cont) 00:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Mario Party 8 is not actually known as "Mario Party Wii." Mario Party 9 was also released for the Wii. Mia Mahey (talk) 20:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Dab page. While I don't like it, I think a dab page at the target would be the best solution. There is no one target in Mario Party where a link can go to, as that article is not sorted by console. The nom is right though, that having this link to one specific game is not ideal. Gonnym (talk) 11:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to Mario Party#Mario Party 8 (2007), where 8 and 9 are both discussed in succession. Most people using this search term are looking for the first Mario Party to be released on the Wii, and if not, Mario Party 9 information is just below. Utopes(talk / cont) 00:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Hanshan Deqing can be "Silly Mountain" - "Crazy Mountain" is in the article, but "Silly Mountain" can be used to distinguish from Hanshan (poet) ("Cold Mountain"). The other items in the disambiguation page are different Chinese characters and I don't think any can be "Silly". There is also Silly Mountain (Arizona) - not sure if there should be a separate disambiguation page or (if there are only two uses) a redirect to one or the other. Peter James (talk) 11:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Yep, disambiguate these two meanings because neither seems to be primary for such a niche term. --Joy (talk) 10:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to Silly Mountain (Arizona), possibly with a hatnote to it being an alternative name for Hanshan Deqing. The fact that "Silly Mountain" didn't even merit inclusion as a possible name at the latter article (which does include "foolish mountain" as well as the above mentioned "Crazy Mountain") seems to indicate to me that the Arizona mountain is what someone would be looking for searching under this, though it's a plausible translation and probably makes sense to hatnote. Dylnuge(Talk • Edits) 23:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
@Dylnuge that could just be happenstance, though. We should probably avoid focusing on editor behavior (what is currently written in Wikipedia), rather on reader behavior (what is actually out there in the real world that should be documented by an encyclopedia; WP:RF). So we should probably answer these kinds of questions:
Is it likely that the bulk of our readers would associate this term with a single topic as the bulk of sources would do the same?
Is it an ambiguous name that our readers might encounter in reference to several topics in sources?
I couldn't find any reliable sources that call Hanshan Dequing "Silly Mountain". Googling for it shows a few dozen self-published sites and college papers, but it's not clear to me it's a common translation in literature at all. Searching for "Silly Mountain" on its own pretty exclusively brings up stuff about the Arizona mountain. Did you find sources indicating otherwise? Dylnuge(Talk • Edits) 14:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Retarget and add a hatnote. What matters is whether sources exist and how prevalent they are, not whether they are reliable or not. Less than a minute on google found at least 7 sources that clearly identify this as a name for Hanshan Deqing, so it's clearly something that will be searched for. However, it is also clear that the mountain in Arizona is the primary topic so we should retarget there and add a hatnote. Thryduulf (talk) 18:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Retarget or disambiguate? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoristalk! 06:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
This error can plausibly refer to Fort Washington or Washington County, so delete and let the search results take care of it. Queen of Heartstalk 02:24, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Disambiguate per the fact there are multiple topics.Steel1943 (talk) 22:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Do not keep, do not delete per Tavix's comments. I have no opinion about disambiguation vs. retargeting anymore, but it's rather apparent that the current target is probably not helpful and that deletion benefits no one. Steel1943 (talk) 18:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Disambiguate. There's a general presumption that redirects are useful to at least the creator, and disambiguating is less disruptive than deleting. Jruderman (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Disambig per Steel and Jruderman. Thryduulf (talk) 12:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Delete per WP:PTM unless there's evidence of the Fort or the County being referred to as simply "Washington". --Tavix(talk) 13:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
1 minute on Google finds plenty of evidence of the county being referred as "Washington, Maryland" (e.g. [6], [7], [8]), hits for Fort Washington are harder to find [9] is ambiguous, but other results are getting swamped by collactions and hits for Mary L. Washington (a Maryland politician). Thryduulf (talk) 13:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure what's more impressive, the fact that your search only took one minute(!), or the fact that you thought those fringe database sources would be convincing. The Tweet isn't ambiguous, it's saying that the Governor of Maryland was speaking to reporters in Washington, DC. --Tavix(talk) 14:03, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
The nature of the sources is irrelevant - they demonstrate clearly that "Washington County, Maryland" is sometimes referred to as "Washington, Maryland". Thryduulf (talk) 14:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
...and I disagree with that assessment. It's not a referral, it's a database regurgitation. --Tavix(talk) 14:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
What? That's just confusing and potentially harmful to readers. Washington, D.C. is not a part of Maryland, and no one would refer to it as such. Presidentmantalk · contribs (Talkback) 15:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
You do seem confused. I did not suggest a target to Washington, D.C. but to Washington metropolitan area. Per the article (my emphasis added): The Washington metropolitan area...includes all of Washington, D.C. and parts of Maryland... This redirect would be for the "Maryland part of Washington". --Tavix(talk) 13:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
No one calls it "the Maryland part of Washington," though. They are two separate entities. It's the equivalent of calling Newark "the New Jersey part of New York." Presidentmantalk · contribs (Talkback) 21:31, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm not talking about the separate entities, I'm talking about the single metropolitan region of Washington which is partially located in Maryland. One prominent example is the Washington Commanders, who play in Maryland. Similarly, the New York Giants and New York Jets play in the New Jersey part of New York. --Tavix(talk) 21:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoristalk! 04:45, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
I oppose retargetting to Washington metropolitan area per Presidentman. It isn't a completely implausible entry on a dab page but it would be very surprising to be redirected there. Thryduulf (talk) 08:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
No one refers to Fort Washington (either the CDP or the historic fort) as just "Washington". The county is rarely, but is, referred to by just "Washington" (like many counties in America). Normally only in spoke language but there are cases like [10]: State Sen. Paul Corderman, R-Washington, sent a letter to the Hagerstown mayor and council. I guess disambiguate? Between something like: Washington County, Maryland; Washington College (which is in Maryland); maybe History of Washington, D.C. due to the history of Maryland giving up land for Washington, DC; and maybe Washington metropolitan area (but oppose retarget here) (I'd also be fine with Fort Washington, Maryland being on the dab but I think under WP:PARTIAL it technically shouldn't be?). A retarget to Washington County, Maryland would be preferable to no change and deletion. Skynxnex (talk) 03:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Keep Today I see both "Washington, MD" and "Marlboro, MD" listed by the Google Voice app, so "no one refers..." simply isn't correct. There's a redirect for Washington, Maryland - that was really useful. There is no redirect for Marlboro, Maryland - that was a complete PITA. Keep the redirect, add another to Marlboro, Maryland. Retargeting to loosely defined urban space is utterly useless. The redirect takes people who have no idea where these boroughs are to the appropriate WP article. Yappy2bhere (talk) 18:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Utopes(talk / cont) 00:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)