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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 04:04, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsuch Parkrun[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Local event lacking significant, non-trivial coverage. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:13, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@L3X1: - I got an error entering this AfD using Twinkle and had to enter it manually. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:23, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Guy (Help!) 23:35, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Camilo Him[edit]

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Delete as the claims in the article are inflated, or misleading. Much of the language is promotional, and the citations link to promotional/personal sites (and SaatchiArt.com!). The short film Exitus (do not confuse with numerous other films of the same name) appears to have never screened at festival. His work is not in the LACMA collection, and the Big Shows exhibition appears to have been a rental space during fashion week. The essential question is whether his work as a fashion photographer rises to the level of notability. I don't think so, hence my bringing it here.

This went through AfD in 2014, with the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Big Shows closed as merge to Camilo Him, which in turn was closed as non consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camilo Him with comments from the SPA creator of the pages that bordered on UNCIVIL.

I'm perplexed by the claim that two of the prints are in the LACMA collection, as the LACMA collections site has nothing under Him's name [1], and none of the 8 sources support the claim. They are all articles about the Sheats–Goldstein Residence being given to LACMA. Him did at least one photo shoot there, but that is what the house has been used for for decades, and does not establish notability. No... wait, I think I figured it out: this press release that Big Shows (e.g. Him) put out [2] says that James Goldstein (the most recent owner of the house) bought two of his prints at charity auction, so these works must have been on the walls of the house that was donated to LACMA, and that is where the claim is coming from? That is a stretch.

Additionally, the Lincoln Center website has no reference to this exhibition titled Big Shows. [3] There is a website, but it is primarily a gallery of photographs of fashion world people who were *at* the opening. There are some remaining event listings [4], but these don't really establish whether this was a rental space, or whether LC curated it in some way. The sense I get is that it was a rental, likely in a fashion week tent. Theredproject (talk) 19:37, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Theredproject DO NOT be perplexed. Obviously your grounds for deletion are based on your personal opinion and speculation and in no way on real facts.

(1) On your question of “whether his work as a fashion photographer rises to the level of notability” says you? Obviously top international magazine brands and their editors have had no problem debating your personal taste. New York Fashion Week has no problem thinking about that. Celebrity publicists, model agencies, top fashion designers have no problem thinking about that. But you are above the all because you are..? a troll

(2) "The most recent owner of the house" has been there for decades and mind you there has only been 2 owners… the original owner and James Goldstein...talk about a stretch in language usage! troll The fact that LACMA has acquire the house for their collection, means exactly that. All content in the house, including James hats, books and his art collection have become part of LACMA. So wait for their audit of the house contents before troll commenting. It is a fact! Go ask any foundation.

(3) Regarding Camilo Him’s “Big Shows” exhibit, again you are nothing but in full Conspiracy Theory territory. Camilo Him has been the only photographer to ever exhibit at The Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts “AT” the invitation of New York Fashion Week…. mind you NYFW (MBFW) is the highest organization in America in charged of the Fashion Shows in New York. He is not notable in your personal troll mind but obviously NYFW didn’t think as you do. And to speculate that any photographer can just walk in and rent a space to show their work is just insane… Somebody needs to watch THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA… nobody gets in unless he or she is invited to be in. By the way top designers, celebrities, and supermodels attended his exhibit opening…

FYI TheRedProject is a valuable contributor to Wikipedia who knows how to make thoughtful nominations and be civil with other editors.96.127.242.226 (talk) 04:53, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I removed numerous Tumblr, youtube and promotional sources used as refs, and all of the LACMA collection refs and text, since it clearly is not true or supported by the refs.96.127.242.226 (talk) 05:07, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Theredproject and 96.127.242.226 Come on! You are not Wikipedia editors! You can’t fact check anything that is not on Instagram! Go ahead I dare you to delete article within 24 hours… Vlaich (talk) 05:31, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Theredproject and 96.127.242.226 Don't call it promotional garbage, plenty of Wikipedia editors changed the the article... You will have a great time editing all of Wikipedia if you don't like what they did before!Vlaich (talk) 05:38, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Theredproject 96.127.242.226 Vexations and duffbeerforme I agree with you… DELETE this article today!

The truth is that NEW YORK FASHION WEEK, Anna Sui, Carolina Herrera and all the top designers and celebrities who attended Camilo Him’s exhibit at the Lincoln Center (and there are plenty of photos to show it to be so) know nothing but weekend Wikipedia trolls who don’t get to go out of the house do! LOL

You can’t denied any of the facts… including that his work is now part of LACMA!

It was funny, I ran into a Wikipedia page recently of a very FAMOUS fashion personality that was tagged for deletion too on similar insane grounds… Have a great Sunday going over more people you have no clue about and will never have! DELETE… — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vlaich (talkcontribs) 14:04, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

more silliness

Theredproject 96.127.242.226 Vexations duffbeerforme Slatersteven What are you waiting for?

At least be honest, you can’t disprove that Camilo Him is a fashion photographer that has been celebrated by peers in his industry and honored by top fashion designers and NEW YORK FASHION WEEK and has worked for top fashion magazines… end of story DELETE!

Enjoy your Sunday chained to your mom’s basement washing machine trolling some more articles…Vlaich (talk) 14:36, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is not down to us to prove he is not a fashion designer who has has been celebrated by peers in his industry and honored by top fashion designers and NEW YORK FASHION WEEK and has worked for top fashion magazines. It is down to you to prove this by linking to in depth coverage of him in third party RS.Slatersteven (talk) 15:07, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 20:54, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

U Jin Jo[edit]

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Not notable, doesn't meet guidelines JC7V7DC5768 (talk) 18:51, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 20:54, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Nurse (vaudeville)[edit]

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Unsourced. Possible hoax. » Shadowowl | talk 19:09, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:54, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Education Not for Sale[edit]


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As it has no sources, it is impossible to determine if the claims in the article are valid or if it passes WP:NORG.  » Shadowowl | talk 19:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 20:53, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Anders Nelson[edit]

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Fails WP:ARTIST due to lack of significant exhibitions or critical impact. The exhibitions are mostly open hang or open call juried shows at non-notable venues. See CV for full listing [15]. I don't know if the Multilingual App Toolkit is significant enough to qualify as a computer scientist, but given there is no wiki page or redirect for the tool... Also, this page had a saatchiart.com link on it. Theredproject (talk) 18:58, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:53, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Myši Natálie Mooshabrové[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 18:30, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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These are bot articles given the fact that the creator made these with a speed of up to 9 articles per minute. -- » Shadowowl | talk 19:31, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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@Eastmain:The reference you added, i.e. the review at [16], was written by someone named Uživatel Dooren, who read the book, and wrote about it there in 2004.
Take a look at who that Uživatel Dooren might be on same site: http://www.ctenar.net/uzivatele_v.php?user=user40432fdeb43a3
- What does the list tell you(?)
- What does the email hosting domain telll you(?)
- What are the termini of the Google search ["Uživatel Dooren"], and what's the collective aggregate story to all that content(?)
What does Wikipedia say about reliable sources(?)
I'd say that you claimed to have found a teapot, but it's not a teapot. -- DexterPointy (talk) 21:54, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Oakshade: Nice job ;-)
- Can & Will you, or anyone you might know, write up this article to have encyclopedic value?and that much before our local star goes supernova. -- DexterPointy (talk) 11:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This ignores the fact other votes have shown enough sources exist to flesh the article out, though. We don't delete stubs for being stubs. SportingFlyer talk 19:55, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:53, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kalibův zločin[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 18:36, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 20:53, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mikael Gregorsky[edit]

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Fails WP:ARTIST for lack of exhibitions and impact. Appears to be a working editorial photographer, but if under that category, this is TOOSOON. Had saatchiart.com as a source. Many of the other links are dead, or don't back up the claims. Theredproject (talk) 18:51, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sardar Malik[edit]

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Article cites no sources, has nothing except the lead sentence, no mention of notability. QueerFilmNerdtalk 18:44, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vlčí jáma (novel)[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 18:40, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Good find. Would you mind adding that reference to the article? Thanks.Work permit (talk) 04:39, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Smyčka[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG.  » Shadowowl | talk 18:40, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shadowowl, how did you come to the conclusion that this topic doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor WP:GNG? --Oakshade (talk) 01:10, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Stubs of notable topics are always better than no articles. Being a simple stub is not a reason to remove it. --Oakshade (talk) 00:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Maria Plojhar[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 18:36, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Invalidní sourozenci[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 18:36, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Consensus at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive987#Shadowowl and AfD was not to procedurally close these AfDs en masse, however ill-considered they may have been, but to deal with them on a case-by-case basis. Following that logic, an AfD with this level of participation would usually be relisted. However, given the indiscriminate nature of the nominations, I don't think that would be productive. But if any editor is willing to do a proper WP:BEFORE and re-nominate this, they should feel free to do so. – Joe (talk) 20:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Král železný, král zlatý[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 18:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Konec starých časů[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lekce tvůrčího psaní[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:41, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lovci orchidejí[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:40, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Mord[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:40, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

František Flos[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:38, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Magdalena (novel)[edit]

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The result was no consensus. Consensus at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive987#Shadowowl and AfD was not to procedurally close these AfDs en masse, however ill-considered they may have been, but to deal with them on a case-by-case basis. Following that logic, an AfD with this level of participation would usually be relisted. However, given the indiscriminate nature of the nominations, I don't think that would be productive. But if any editor is willing to do a proper WP:BEFORE and re-nominate this, they should feel free to do so. – Joe (talk) 20:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mladý muž a bílá velryba: Malý chemický epos[edit]

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The result was no consensus. Consensus at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive987#Shadowowl and AfD was not to procedurally close these AfDs en masse, however ill-considered they may have been, but to deal with them on a case-by-case basis. Following that logic, an AfD with this level of participation would usually be relisted. However, given the indiscriminate nature of the nominations, I don't think that would be productive. But if any editor is willing to do a proper WP:BEFORE and re-nominate this, they should feel free to do so. – Joe (talk) 20:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Na krásné samotě[edit]

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The result was no consensus. Consensus at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive987#Shadowowl and AfD was not to procedurally close these AfDs en masse, however ill-considered they may have been, but to deal with them on a case-by-case basis. Following that logic, an AfD with this level of participation would usually be relisted. However, given the indiscriminate nature of the nominations, I don't think that would be productive. But if any editor is willing to do a proper WP:BEFORE and re-nominate this, they should feel free to do so. – Joe (talk) 20:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nemodlenec[edit]

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The result was no consensus. Consensus at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive987#Shadowowl and AfD was not to procedurally close these AfDs en masse, however ill-considered they may have been, but to deal with them on a case-by-case basis. Following that logic, an AfD with this level of participation would usually be relisted. However, given the indiscriminate nature of the nominations, I don't think that would be productive. But if any editor is willing to do a proper WP:BEFORE and re-nominate this, they should feel free to do so. – Joe (talk) 20:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Olga poznává život[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:28, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pan Theodor Mundstock[edit]

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Clarification: I'm not voting delete because I think there shouldn't be an encyclopedic article on "Pan Theodor Mundstock". I'm voting delete because the test-of-time strongly indicate that there never will be one. - Furthermore, since deleting ~8 years of "work" equates to deleting a very few words of simply trivia, then virtually nothing is lost by deleting it. -- DexterPointy (talk) 10:27, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The AfD should get no credit. There are better ways to get articles expanded than proposing deletion without Googling first. Glad you've switched to 'neutral'. If you have doubts that mean you can't vote 'keep', please do air them. It might be something that's easy to fix. Mortee (talk) 17:03, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@James500: (per my above added clarification on Delete) Do mind the old fisherman's proverb: "He who throws trouts around, may end up smelling of red herring." [citation needed] -- DexterPointy (talk) 10:49, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Re "the test-of-time strongly indicate that there never will be one" above. Has it occurred to you that I or someone else might raise this article to the WP:HEYMANN standard in the immediate future (since we have been expressly asked to do so)? I've already started to collect sources in order to facilitate this, in case you hadn't noticed. James500 (talk) 17:49, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@James500: Are you aware that we're not just taking about one article, and not just talking about 147 articles, but are in fact talking about thousands of articles from Starzynka? -- DexterPointy (talk) 18:50, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bad faith, because you did it in a manner that made it difficult to others to review, that you did not considerthe possibility of notability , and did not follow WP:BEFORE, and have been and continue to be POINTy in trying to justify them. Good faith would be to apologize. DGG ( talk ) 01:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Me? I didn't make the nomination. But I think when it was nominated, it was a useless stub written by an editor accused of bot edits. --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 01:48, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, at time of nomination: The article was this shit, and was one of roughly 25000 articles created by Starzynka at bot-like speeds, with no obvious concerns for notability.
Considering that WP:BEFORE suggests the application of due diligence, then - as the pot told the Pope: "You look like a black dude" it's an old Vatican proverb.
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:26, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Putování slepého hada za pravdou[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:26, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Příběh kriminálního rady[edit]

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The result was redirect to Der Teufel sitzt im Spiegel. – Joe (talk) 20:26, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wie Wahrnehmung sich erfindet[edit]

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Stub, one line article. Possibly non notable book. Suggest redirecting to Herta MüllerDer Teufel sitzt im Spiegel. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. No references used. Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 18:01, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article is apparently a subsection of Der Teufel sitzt im Spiegel so should definately be redirected into that article. --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 21:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Andrew D.. The source you mentioned is useful, thank you. It's good to know that Der Teufel sitzt im Spiegel contains Wie Wahrnehmung sich erfindet, hence the subtitle. I still haven't found anything substantial about the lectures separate from Der Teufel, though, so I still vote for a redirect (to Der Teufel, not to Herta Müller - I've corrected my !vote). The lectures can be discussed there unless/until that section outgrows the main article. Mortee (talk) 21:40, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So this article is about a section of a book? --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 21:45, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to be. That's why I think it should be redirected to the book it's in. Mortee (talk) 21:46, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. I was initially under the impression it was just a non-notable book by a notable author. But if it's just a subsection, it should definitely be redirected into the main book. --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 21:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to be WP:BOLD and redirect it into Der Teufel sitzt im Spiegel --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 21:52, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Reverted. The discussion has several keeps already, so redirecting is not really appropriate right now. WP:BOLD doesn't really apply when it's already under discussion. ansh666 00:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I was redirecting to the main book and not the author as Mortee suggests. --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 00:42, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 20:24, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Is This Thing Cursed?[edit]

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This article falls under WP:Too soon as the album hasn't been released yet. Bbarmadillo (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I will only remind about WP:CRYSTAL. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 08:36, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
which is concerned with speculation about future events that might not happen. Given the album has a release date in the near future, with tracklisting and artwork confirmed, WP:CRYSTAL isn't a good argument for deletion. --Michig (talk) 09:40, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 13:00, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proti všem[edit]

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První parta[edit]

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The Case of Unfaithful Klara[edit]

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The result was speedy keep: withdrawn. (non-admin closure) » Shadowowl | talk 21:10, 21 July 2018 (UTC) Per WP:TPO and WP:BOLD, and my message on User:Shadowowl's talk page, I went ahead and modified their close (which originally just said "keep") and struck their OP comment. Hijiri 88 (やや) 02:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rudá záře nad Kladnem[edit]

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The result was speedy keep. Vejvančický's comment seems decisive while the nomination is one of a vexatious bundle. (non-admin closure) Andrew D. (talk) 20:05, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stříbrný vítr[edit]

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The result was keep. Sandstein 16:47, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stone Horizons (1953 film)[edit]

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Koncert (1954 film)[edit]

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Millions on the Island[edit]

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Heaven Without Love[edit]

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U oluji[edit]

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Igre na skelama[edit]

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Veliko suđenje[edit]

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The result was keep. Early close per IAR due to volume of noms. Article is significantly expanded. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Face to Face (1963 film)[edit]

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Svanuće[edit]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 13:02, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Back of the Medal[edit]

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Changing to Keep. Satisfies #4 of WP:NFILM per GregorB below. I'm convinced there's likely to be significant coverage in offline sources in Croation. Wugapodes [thɔk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɻɪbz] 22:39, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, it's a common idiom. These films are too old to be likely to have any coverage in online RS, but that doesn't imply in this case that there aren't offline sources. In fact I'd suppose that most if not all of the films nominated in the past day pass GNG offline. Filmmaking in 1960s Yugoslavia was after all a much more expensive and coordinated affair than today on Lifetime, Cinemax et al. DaßWölf 23:43, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Sandstein 16:46, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Čovik od svita[edit]

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Goli čovik[edit]

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Gravitation (film)[edit]

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Wild Angels (1969 film)[edit]

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The result was keep. Sandstein 16:46, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Družba Pere Kvržice[edit]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 16:45, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Boog and Elliot's Big Adventure[edit]

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likely hoax. Issue raised here can't find anything on credible google and page was created by a now banned user with a history of adding unreliable information ©Geni (talk) 16:40, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. unsourced promo, already speedied twice Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:13, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Truweight[edit]

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Non-notable company , fails WP:NCORP and article has no sources . Kpgjhpjm 16:34, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 16:29, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

James Asquith[edit]

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Coverage for one thing; a Guinness World Record. Fails BIO by a long shot. Jytdog (talk) 16:23, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 16:31, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Katy (series)[edit]

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The article is an overview of a series of entries, of which only 2 have articles. In addition it has almost no information and has been like that since it was created in 2009. Gonnym (talk) 09:24, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How does having this article help to navigate? What Katy Did#Adaptations and What Katy Did#Sequels has more information than this article does. Also, while the a book is notable, the article in question has not proved that the "franchise" is, nor that the common name is "Katy". Now I'm not against this page existing, but currently, it has no information in it, not even about the 2 blue links that do exist (and has seen almost no updates since 2009 except for Wikipedia maintenance. --Gonnym (talk) 16:09, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. After looking at this more closely, one only person wants to keep this, and they have 145 edits, most of which about this topic. Sandstein 16:45, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TVD Universe[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG is totally unsourced and is not mentioned in any of the bluekinks on the page. Draftified but recreated without improvement Dom from Paris (talk) 12:09, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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(edit conflict) Multiple (rebuttal) points here. First, this is a WP:OSE argument. Second, use of "Arrowverse" has actually made that article controversial. However, there are actually Reliable sources that use the term "Arrowverse" (check that article's references...), so it is both 1) not-WP:OR (at least, not entirely), and 2) notable in its own right as outside sources have used the term. In this case, AFAIK, there are no secondary sources that are devoted to (or, indeed, have ever really talked about) "The Vampire Diaries Universe" (on television) as a "thing"... IOW, the subject is non-notable, and does not merit an article of its own. --IJBall (contribstalk) 19:07, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Of those, the only one that's worth anything is the Variety one, and they put "TVD" in quotes (literally), and it's a incidental mention. (A lot of the rest of those are coming from comments sections, which don't count.) Like I said, even that "Arrowverse" article is not uncontroversial. But, here, we don't have even one article dedicated to the topic. Without that, I think this is not notable. This is basically a WP:Neologism AFAIAC. --IJBall (contribstalk) 21:15, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Understandable; just wanted to raise it to your attention. I have no vote either way on this. Aoba47 (talk) 23:38, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since I have contributed to the discussion, I should cast a vote out of respect. I vote delete as I do not believe there is enough substantial coverage on this particular concept. Multiple shows exist within the same timeline does not make the universe inherently notable (I can think of several other universes). More sources are needed to argue for notability (just in my opinion). I am honestly leaning toward delete as I do not know if this is really a viable search term. Aoba47 (talk) 03:35, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Kauvery Hospital[edit]

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This hospital appears to be a private clinic. I can find no reliable outside sources to provide notability and its own website is unhelpful. Much of the information in the present article is unsourced and it is basically an advertisement. It appears to be the work of CoI editors who have also been adding bios of the medical personnel to Wikipedia Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:59, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Accesscrawl: Being listed on a stock exchange does not establish notability. Can you provide links to the reliable sources? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:33, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Government website mention Financial Express Mention Accesscrawl (talk) 02:41, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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That is a misinterpretation of what WP:SIGCOV says. The sources should not be trivial mentions, and most of these are not, and WP:SIGCOV certainly doesn't preclude one source focusing on a particular aspect of the hospital. The idea that a hospital with 100 doctors and over 1000 staff in just one branch is not significant is odd to say the least. Hzh (talk) 08:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:ORGDEPTH explains the "significant coverage" requirement in more detail for organizations. It requires coverage that "provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements." The section also provides examples of what would be considered significant and trivial. These sources fall short:
  1. Times of India: Brief mention of volunteer work
  2. The Hindu: Routine coverage of expansion
  3. Medical Dialogues: Routine coverage of expansion
  4. 404 error
  5. Financial Express: Routine coverage of acquisition
  6. The Hindu: Passing mention of event sponsorship
  7. The Hindu: Passing mention of event sponsorship
  8. Verdict Hospital: Routine coverage of expansion
  9. The Times of India: Passing mention of event (workshop). The article is about an angioplasty method, not the hospital.
Also, WP:ORGDEPTH does not take arbitrary numbers (such as numbers of doctors and staff) into account when determining an organization's notability. — Newslinger talk 12:12, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Illuminati (UV group)[edit]

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Analysis of the sources indicates that most are trivial or unreliable. Several concern non-notable awards which don't confer notability. Only sources 8 and 9 are any larger than a sentence. 8 is mostly about the performer dancing with Illuminati. 9 is slightly better, but still no more than a scant paragraph describing a performance.

I tried to Google for more sources and came up with very little. That being said, their name makes them hard to Google, and I can only search in English, so I'll admit there may be sources I could have missed.

Ultimately at this point I don't see enough to support a claim of notability. ♠PMC(talk) 12:03, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources: The Times of India article mentions the group once, in the list of the acts. The Forbes article has nothing to do with the group; it's about a conference on "India's IT industry bracing up for a 4th industrial revolution"; the group is mentioned once, when describing the entertainment. Then, there is a listing of awards in a "'Live Quotient Awards", in which it's reported that the group won in the category of "Innovative Act". There's a FilmiBeat review of a film called ABCD2 that's entirely irrelevant to the group. In the Bolly Spice article, the group is mentioned once, as back-up to a singer in a TV show. The Hindu mentions the group once in its report of the acts participating in a festival. Indiacom has a report about an ethnic-fashion designer; the group danced in one of his exhibitions. That's the pattern all the way. -The Gnome (talk) 08:43, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Houston Metropolitan Dance Company[edit]

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I'm not finding enough non-local sourcing to indicate that this dance company satisfies WP:N, specifically the portion that requires sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time. While there is some press, it is all from the Houston area, which means it fails WP:AUD. ♠PMC(talk) 11:47, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Overall, WP:AUD's requirement that at least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary is more than adequately met. FourViolas (talk) 19:35, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that "necessary" is entirely different from "sufficient." -The Gnome (talk) 08:45, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The policy states, "not (exists at least one more-than-local source) implies not notable"; the converse, "(exists at least one more-than-local source) implies notable," isn't logically entailed, but is presumed to hold since WP:GNG is met. If the AUD guideline were meant to include some stricter standard, it would have to be specifically stated. In any case, it would be unreasonable to require more than 12 such sources. FourViolas (talk) 00:25, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Zombieland Saga[edit]

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Article made same day of announcement for anime airing in fall. Perhaps in future (and with refs outside of industry fansites), but seems to me to be a little pre-emptive as well as having only trivial coverage in fansites which seems to fail GNG. Etzedek24 (Would it kill ya to leave an edit summary?) 03:16, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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There's no comments about production, cast, or anything of the sort. It's just simply too soon. Etzedek24 (Would it kill ya to leave an edit summary?) 17:35, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect, you're kind of cherry-picking the content of those essays to suit your own needs. The very second point of WP:NODEADLINE is don't rush to delete articles unless their potential significance cannot be established. As a collaboration between two major and respected companies, I think this anime's significance has definitely been established, nevermind its potential significance. You also cite WP:CRYSTALBALL while simultaneously making a purely speculative comment about it potentially being cancelled, presumably in reference to New Life+: Young Again in Another World and the events surrounding its cancellation, an event which, I would argue, actually served to cement that series' notability. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 01:08, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The release date is far enough off that they don't have a "release date", they have a "release season". Does WP:NFF apply for a series? StrayBolt (talk) 05:48, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Most anime don't have an exact release date announced until a few weeks from their premiere. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 13:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sources refer to it as "Zombieland", so that's what I went with. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 13:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not convinced. The (probably) press release has both. Does the sources (only 1 in the article) add anything beyond the press release? The trailer has it broken up. Searching finds for me 88 "Zombie Land Saga" and about 154 "zombieland saga". Also, many of the Japanese pages write it "ZombieLand SAGA", but this might be one bad source being replicated (perhaps reducing the total count). Searching in Japanese finds 104 results. Maybe the split word is a bad auto-translation. Is there any connection with Zombieland? StrayBolt (talk) 17:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure MOS:CAPS would forbid the use of the stylization used in Japanese sources, which means it would default to the non-capitalized version (aka, how it is currently titled). G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 22:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The official website says "(C) ZOMBIE LAND SAGA PARTNERS", but I know company names don't always match the final title. StrayBolt (talk) 16:14, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Upcoming television series and the many similar categories suggest otherwise. Almost every new television series gets an article before they start airing. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:17, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I should have phrased this better. Here's better: TV and film production is going on round the clock. New films, episodes, series, specials and what-have-you are announced, tested, piloted, teased, and so on, every minute and every hour. To sort out what's Wikinotable and what's not from this avalanche we rely on sources. A mere press release from the Cygames production company does not make the subject notable. Let's just graciously accord this a WP:TOOSOON. I hope this is better. -The Gnome (talk) 06:28, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not to be technical, but that was a news article, not a press release. This was a press release. There's a difference: one is a primary source, the other is a secondary source. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 15:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have been admonished (more than warranted) about churnalism and while I don't know enough about the site, that article would qualify. While it does have a byline, it also says, "Source: Press Release" and has no info beyond what is in the PR. They edited the PR down, quoted the superlatives, added links,… basically what is done in WP for articles. StrayBolt (talk) 16:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, StrayBolt. Plus ça change, etc. -The Gnome (talk) 06:59, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 16:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Hatter[edit]

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Failing notability at WP:BIO. Prod tag removed, two YouTube videos added as references. Ifnord (talk) 01:53, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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1. The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. 2. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique. 3. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. 4. The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, Mr. Hatter clearly meets all four of the above as shown here with a quick Google News search [74]. ShoesssS Talk 08:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 16:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Everyday Pakistan[edit]

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A photoblog is not something that would be expected to have an article on English Wikipedia unless meet GNG. This one fails. Saqib (talk) 05:16, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Everyday Pakistan was published in print in Gulf News and Indian Express. I searched online and found that since april its getting coverage by news organisations. Also added it after seeing that there are photoblogs up on wikipedia. I couldn’t find how to add a printed news paper link with references. And the references clearly indicate its verifiably and notability. I think it doesn’t come in deletion criteria. So keep — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theaugustguy (talkcontribs) 20:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC) Note to closing admin: Theaugustguy (talkcontribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 16:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Orly Aviv[edit]

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COI article fails WP:ARTIST, as nearly all the exhibitions and prizes are all pay to play vanity affairs. This page was nominated for deletion in 2015 and kept based off of two votes in total (one was a weak keep); both of these votes were basically "it looks like some of these sources might be WP:RS" but neither dug in. I have dug in, and here are all the claims:

Essentially, this rides on whether the Israel Cultural Ministry Prize which I was able to document at the link in the page [76] alone establishes notability. Given that it was essentially a politicized award that appears to have only been given a couple of years during that culture minister's tenure, and which does not appear on the internet except in people's CVs, I would say no. But I welcome others, especially fluent Hebrew speakers, who may be able to do deeper research than I. But please be conscious of the Vanity factor, some of which I have listed here: User:Theredproject/Predatory Exhibitions and Vanity Galleries... also it references saatchiart.com! Theredproject (talk) 15:27, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 15:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shawn Wasabi[edit]

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The entire coverage of this guy appears to be based on a couple videos of him playing this... controller thing (Midi Fighter 64?). I'd suggest what can be found does not satisfy GNG. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:27, 21 July 2018 (UTC) Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:27, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 15:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Venktesh Shukla[edit]

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I admit I find it difficult to judge these "entrepreneur" articles because it is usually trivially easy to find a boatload of sources that drop the name of the subject somewhere (usually quoting soundbites). Here, however, I'm getting the strong impression that then coverage is exactly that - trivial. None of the referenced sources provide any kind of independent in-depth cover of Shukla. The one source that focuses on him (ref 1) is a straight-up promotional interview. The rest is passing mentions, the aforementioned soundbites, press releases and promo featurelets. - By my lights, sufficient notability is not demonstrated by this salad of bits and bobs. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC) Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 13:03, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Poslijepodne jednog fazana[edit]

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Chronicle of a Crime[edit]

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Razmeđa[edit]

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To Live on Love[edit]

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Captain Mikula, the Kid[edit]

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Hitler from Our Street[edit]

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Passion According to Matthew[edit]

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Daredevil's Time[edit]

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Fliers of the Open Skies[edit]

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Pucanj[edit]

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Violet (1978 film)[edit]

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Court Martial (1978 film)[edit]

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That's the Way the Cookie Crumbles[edit]

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The Four Seasons (1979 film)[edit]

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Pakleni otok[edit]

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Priko sinjeg mora[edit]

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Slow Motion (1979 film)[edit]

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Indian Summer (1970 film)[edit]

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Tressette: A Story of an Island[edit]

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Play Me a Love Song[edit]

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Donkey (film)[edit]

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Runa (novel)[edit]

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Enrique Sdrech[edit]

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Evita, la loca de la casa[edit]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – Joe (talk) 15:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hijo de ladrón[edit]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – Joe (talk) 15:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Los lanzallamas[edit]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – Joe (talk) 15:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Memorias de Antínoo[edit]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – Joe (talk) 15:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

¿Quién mató a Rosendo?[edit]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – Joe (talk) 15:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Raros Peinados[edit]

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Un chino en bicicleta[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Le Boulevard périphérique[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Le Bourgmestre de Furnes[edit]

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The result was redirect to Reynard the Fox per WP:ATD – Joe (talk) 15:39, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Le Couronnement de Renart[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:39, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

La Déchirure (Henry Bauchau)[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:38, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

La Démence du boxeur[edit]

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Harry Dernier[edit]

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Trzy zimy[edit]

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Ocalenie[edit]

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Die blassen Herren mit den Mokkatassen[edit]

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Światlo dzienne[edit]

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Traktat poetycki[edit]

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Gucio zaczarowany[edit]

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Miasto bez imienia[edit]

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Vater telefoniert mit den Fliegen[edit]

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One line, none notable book. Suggest redirecting to Herta Müller. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED . No references used. Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 14:08, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The AfD was started because of notability reasons, not article improvement. Now notability and passing WP:GNG has been established. AfD is not clean-up. --Oakshade (talk) 15:41, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So you would be fine if a redirect is done? --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 16:24, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Of course not. Stubs of notable topics are always better than no articles. That way those with more knowledge or interest on the topic have an article basis from which to grow upon. Some articles can take many years to develop. There is no hurry to make articles GA status. I've created a ton of foreign language topic articles as stubs. Many were developed by other editors over the years into major articles, other are still stubs. In this case the German WP article is a great place to start. --Oakshade (talk) 17:47, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As it currently stands, all the articles are in the format "[Work of literature] is [type of work] by [author name]. It was first published in [date]." It tells nothing more about the subject. --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 17:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:36, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Eine warme Kartoffel ist ein warmes Bett[edit]

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One line, none notable book. Suggest redirecting to Herta Müller. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED . No references used. Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 14:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Na brzegu rzeki[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 14:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Eastmain: I've fixed your apparent mistake per WP:TPO. Your !vote was clear even without the word "keep", but without the last "'''" it looked like you were shouting your entire comment. Hijiri 88 (やや) 03:30, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
for which you have received a kitten:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 08:52, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:36, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Angekommen wie nicht da[edit]

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One line, none notable book. Suggest redirecting to Herta Müller. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED . No references used. Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 14:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:36, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Der Wächter nimmt seinen Kamm[edit]

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One line, none notable book. Suggest redirecting to Herta Müller. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED . No references used. Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 14:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gdzie słońce wschodzi i kedy zapada[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG.  » Shadowowl | talk 14:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hymn o Perle[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG.  » Shadowowl | talk 14:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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-btw poems from the book are also used for school studies, see here. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:51, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nieobjęta ziemia[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NFILM nor GNG.  » Shadowowl | talk 14:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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have a read of nbook no. 5 ie. "5.The book's author is so historically significant that any of the author's written works may be considered notable." so this work does not necessarily to have won it if the author is deemed to meet this criteria. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:32, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The guidelines also states "This is not an absolute guarantee that there will necessarily be a separate, stand-alone article entirely dedicated to that book. Editors may use their discretion to merge or group two or more related topics into a single article." --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 10:09, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
and therfore we go to the article's talkpage that has a discussion about possibly merging this article ... oh, wait, there isn't one. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:28, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kroniki[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 14:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dalsze okolice[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 14:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:17, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Drückender Tango[edit]

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One line, none notable book. Suggest redirecting to Herta Müller. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. No reference cited. Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 14:03, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Tyw7: no. It's because it's a German book by a Nobel Prize winner. You'd expect more German sources than English ones. I haven't gone looking because German's not my native language, I was able to add some content without them, and there's a huge number of AfD nominations open just at the moment that I'd like to give some attention to. Mortee (talk) 21:52, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The article certainly looks better now. And it's more informative to readers. --Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 21:56, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In der Falle[edit]

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One line, none notable book. Suggest redirecting to Herta Müller. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk • ✍️ Contributions) Please ping me if you had replied 14:00, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • There is long standing consensus that nobel prizewinners satisfy criteria 5 of the guideline NBOOK. This kind of nomination has been tried before and it has, as far as I am aware, always failed. Why do you think the previous nominations ended in failure? James500 (talk) 07:40, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't an article on a Nobel Prize-winner. It's an article on an apparently quite obscure book (de.wiki doesn't even have an article on it) that predates her Nobel win by 13 years. Additionally, the claim that novels by Nobel laureates automatically merit standalone articles while non-book-length works do not, even when their poetry was explicitly mentioned by the prizegivers, is ... questionable. I personally think Beowulf (Seamus Heaney) is much more likely to meet GNG than this book. NBOOK is a guideline that can be ignored in cases where its application would be unhelpful; in this case, readers looking for information on this book and its author would be much better served by linking them straight to the article on the author, as it already includes just as much information on the book and tons more information on the author. Hijiri 88 (やや) 07:47, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, just now noticed that I was answering the wrong question (it looked like I should respond to "Why do you think the previous nominations that have been tried before and have always failed ended in failure?"): there has only been one prior AFD of this page, from seven years ago (the "second nomination" was a botched attempt earlier today -- again, I don't plan on being tricked into defending that editor's clumsy behaviour), and it ended in "failure" because only seven months (rather than, as now, eight years) had passed in which no one had managed to write anything in the article beyond content forking of the article on the author. Hijiri 88 (やや) 09:54, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BTW: so far there has been only one !vote in favour of "keep" and two explicitly saying redirect. If this situation does not change in the next week the AFD should be closed as either "no consensus; slight majority in favour of redirect, but that doesn't require admin action" or "weak consensus to redirect": please do not close as "keep", as such a "consensus statement" would make redirecting difficult. Hijiri 88 (やや) 09:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Further comment Assuming Cullen's edits are accurate and not, say, a misinterpretation by a tertiary source that read a blurb about this book from the Nobel committee and read some other stuff into it, then I have no problem with the article remaining standalone, since it now includes at least some stuff that isn't in our main article on Müller. However, the self-contradictory (all the cats indicate that this work is a "novel") content definitely needs to be fixed, and Template:Herta Muller needs to be edited to remove the same apparently counterfactual claim. This is not just a problem with this page but with garbage sub-stubs that get left in the mainspace by editors who don't give a fig's leaf about whether the content they "created" is accurate or verifiable. It's also a little concerning that now with the German personal names and the title of the German-language source taking up most of the text of the article, Google Chrome automatically detects the page as being in German and tries to translate the page: I'm not saying that a sub-stub that relies heavily on a single foreign-language source whose title takes up a significant portion of the article's text needs to be deleted or redirected, but I do wonder about further potential to expand if this is the state we are leaving the page in. Hijiri 88 (やや) 23:58, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Druga przestrzen[edit]

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Crappy bot article that doesn't meet WP:NBOOK nor GNG. » Shadowowl | talk 13:55, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To (play)[edit]

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The result was keep. It would be a speedy or snow keep if this hadn't somehow stayed open for a week, because the nomination contains no valid argument for deletion and frankly, if a topic appears in the EB, there is no question that it should be included in Wikipedia. @Petergans: With the greatest of respect, I think you have misunderstood both our basis for including articles and our basis for deleting them. You are free to replace this version of the article with one that reflects the latest research and/or move it to a more appropriate title. It doesn't need to be deleted first. – Joe (talk) 15:01, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Silicic acid[edit]

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This article is purely conjectural. There is almost no published evidence for the existence of silicic acid. The best reference that I can find is R.K. Iler (1979), "The chemistry of silica: solubility...". Greenwood & Earnshaw(2nd, p. 346, table 9.9) quote a solubility for "orthsilicic acid" of 7*10-4M, presumably from that reference, but no temperature or other details are given. Petergans (talk) 10:07, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your helpful comment. May I point out that I believe the citations to be fictitious. Certainly there is no mention of a silicic acid in Greenwood & Earnshaw, 2nd. edn. Petergans (talk) 07:01, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize, but I am genuinely confused by your use of "fictitious".
For reference's sake: "...there are also numerous hydrates and distinct silicic acids in very dilute aqueous solutions, but these tend to be rather insoluble and rapidly precipitate with further condensation when aqueous solutions of soluble silicates are acidified. Structural information is sparse, particularly for the solid state, but in solution evidence has been claimed for at least 5 species (Table 9.9). It is unlikely that any of these species exist in the solid state since precipitation is accompanied by further condensation and cross-linking to form "polysilicic acids" of indefinite and variable composition [SiO
x
(OH)
4-2x
]n" Greenwood and Earnshaw second edition, p. 346.
The problem here is that the information in table 9.9 (G&E) appears to be unreferenced. The phrase "evidence has been claimed" is very suspicious. I will accept these claims if an original publication can be referenced. Petergans (talk) 21:12, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Reference 2 is R. K. Iler, The Chemistry of Silica (1979). Quoting p. 180, from among many uses of the term: "Characteristics of Silicic Acid: Since Si(OH)
4
has never been isolated or even obtained in a concentrated solution without considerable polymerization, very little is known about its physical or chemical properties. Most measurements have therefore been made in very dilute solutions."
Just so. It's all speculation. Petergans (talk) 21:12, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But, more recently: "Although the dominant silicate species in solution is usually the silicic acid monomer [...] many important processes and reactions, including gel and colloid formation and solubilization of toxic metals, are associated with larger oligomers that become populated only at high concentrations. It is generally accepted that 16 distinct oligomers beyond the dimer have been conclusively identified in aqueous solutions to date, with the largest of these containing eight silicon atoms" Cho et al. (2006).
I'll check that one. It doesn't sound like anything that is in the article at present. I would expect some similarity with oligophosphoric acids. Petergans (talk) 21:12, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately the abstract does not specify which solvent was used. Can you obtain the information? Petergans (talk) 10:49, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This article is concerned with silicates, not silicic acid(s) Petergans (talk) 15:54, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And: "Here we show a simple procedure to selectively synthesize orthosilicic acid and its dimer, cyclic trimer and tetramer in organic solvents. Isolation of orthosilicic acid, the dimer and the cyclic tetramer as hydrogen-bonded crystals with tetrabutylammonium halides and the cyclic trimer as solvent-containing crystals is also described. The solid-state structures of these compounds are unambiguously clarified by single crystal X-ray and neutron diffraction studies." Igarashi et al. (2017).
This is citeable. Note: the solvent was based on DMSO Petergans (talk) 21:12, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We have articles on substances that are only hypothetical, or even purely fictional. Being difficult to isolate, hard to characterize, known primarily for its derivatives, etc., are not reasons to be excluded from an encyclopedia. XOR'easter (talk) 16:26, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly deprecate the inclusion of speculation in WP. One of the basic tenets is that material should be verifiable. Petergans (talk)}
But speculation, done by scientists — whose job is in part to speculate — is verifiable. Our duty here includes the reporting of conjectures and untested hypotheses. The Higgs boson did not suddenly become an encyclopedic topic in July 2012. Planet Nine might not exist at all, but the astronomers have good reason to think it might, and what they have said on the subject is eminently verifiable. The same applies, for example, to conjectures about chemical behavior of short-lived isotopes. Our article on tennessine says that it "is expected to be a volatile metal that neither forms anions nor achieves high oxidation states". This cannot yet be tested in the laboratory, but that's not what "verifiability" means where Wikipedia policy is concerned. XOR'easter (talk) 22:34, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum While looking for recent-ish overviews of this topic, I found "the silicon content of beer". I think that's a sign I should go take a drink. XOR'easter (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers! My point is that there is a difference between prediction - as published by Higgs - and speculation, or to put more crudely, guesswork. It is obvious that there should be similarities between silicate and phosphate chemistry as the elements are neighbours in the periodic table. That Si(OH)4 is not observed with aqueous solutions is a result of the insolubility of its anhydride, SiO2. Petergans (talk) 10:49, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have found many literature references to substances such as "silicic acid, sodium salt". These clearly do not refer to silicic acid itself, the topic of the article under consideration here. Petergans (talk) 08:08, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's interesting, but unfortunately not conclusive. The skeletal silica may be formed from silicate ions which are present in seawater. Petergans (talk) 10:49, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The problem arises because there are two distinct chemical entities which, in common usage, may be called by the name "silicic acid". The chemical formulae are SiO2 and Si(OH)4, which clearly are not the same. This will need to be explained. Petergans (talk) 16:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete & it was redirect from mainspace to userspace. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:10, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2018 Nike Premier Cup[edit]

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Underage tournament and not notable per WP:NFOOTY Coderzombie (talk) 13:46, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wrongful imprisonment of Victor Nealon[edit]

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Fails WP GNG and BLp is violated Duostines (talk) 13:27, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) This AfD proposal was submitted on the basis of the contested list having only one item in it. Since the time the proposal was submitted, editors have added more items on the list. Whether or not the items legitimately appear on the list is a subject that would be discussed, if at all, on the article's talk page and, of course, not here. In any case, the basis for the AfD proposal exists no more. Therefore, the proposal is withdrawn. The Gnome (talk) 06:23, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of housing cooperatives in Canada[edit]

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A list that fails WP:LISTPURP, having only one item in it. Not much to say about this state of affairs, really. The Gnome (talk) 13:12, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong on both counts. Firstly, I had no part in previous listings. In the most recent AfD, which was the first time I got involved with this subject, I witnessed the items in the list getting deleted one by one. Before the list dwindled down to two items, the AfD was closed. The closing was premature in my humble opinion but that was what was decided. I submitted this AfD for the only reason that the list contains one single item and therefore cannot, by any reasonable measure, be considered a list. It serves no encyclopaedic purpose whatsoever.
Secondly, per WP:CRYSTALBALL, we are not posting up articles on the basis of speculations about the future. If it so happens that many more housing co-ops sprout up in Candada, I'd welcome the recreation of this list. As it now is, it's a carcass. -The Gnome (talk) 15:28, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with User:Mparrault about wanting to discourage the behavior. Maybe "List of" should be dropped from the title, by a move to Housing cooperatives in Canada (currently a redlink) and some material could be moved from Housing cooperative#Canada (which is pretty long). I grant that a list-article of notable examples doesn't need to be split out from a main article, unless the list has gotten largish. So fine, redirect this back to the current main article (Housing cooperative#Canada) or, better, split out / develop Housing cooperatives in Canada. --Doncram (talk) 19:47, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Kindly retire this nonsense about "discouraging the behavior," both you Doncram and Mparrault. There is nothing to "discourage" or "encourage" so please drop the silliness. The article, as it now stands, is not the same article any more. The previous AfD started with some six items in the list; now, it's a list of only one item. Try and see what is really going on here: This is a non-list. This list is dead. It's an ex-list. -The Gnome (talk) 22:48, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What has gone on seems obnoxious to me. It seems that five separate articles have been deleted outright, without moving any details over to this list-article, so there were then just redlinks which have then been stripped out. List items do not have to have to link to articles to exist. Anyhow, I went back to a previous version and restored 5 items that had been stripped out, so now it is a list of six again. I don't have access to the corresponding five deleted articles, to add references conveniently. I guess I could/should request restoration of the five separate articles to get material to merge back here. --Doncram (talk) 23:40, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The list might eventually stay on, or be deleted; nobody knows. And I do not much care either way. What matters the most is the obnoxious behavior you seem to exhibit, Doncram, and you know very well this is not the first time. We all have better things to do in Wikipedia, I'm sure, than wasting time with this sort of childish tantrums! This AfD proposal has been made in entirely good faith: A list with only one item in it is by definition not a list; it's a travesty of the very concept. But if every time someone who proposes to delete an article that's for some reason dear to your heart you begin to behave boorishly ("you're having a brain freeze", and other such stupidities), then dialogue and collaboration collapse. You are advised to behave. -The Gnome (talk) 05:29, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. Self-written promo for his own books, no independent sources or evidence of notability. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:24, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vidyadhar Durgekar[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG/WP:NAUTHOR. Autobiographical. Kleuske (talk) 12:37, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Orfeusz i Eurydyka[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wiersze ostatnie[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Das Schweigen[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Der Tod und das Mädchen II[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:51, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Das Werk[edit]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) » Shadowowl | talk 12:30, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In der Falle[edit]

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Im Haarknoten wohnt eine Dame[edit]

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The result was withdrawn by nominator. Mackensen (talk) 16:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Heimat ist das, was gesprochen wird[edit]

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Este sau nu este Ion[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Land of Sin[edit]

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Keep. First novel by a winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature. WP:NBOOK #5 met. Should be kept as a standalone article rather than merged, to allow fuller plot details, analysis etc to be added in future. Mortee (talk) 00:30, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This World and the Other[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Traveller's Baggage[edit]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 13:06, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Journey to Portugal[edit]

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  • The topic is not verrified until the sources are in the article. The article needs sources. NEXIST has been abused for too long if you can use it to justify having an article with no sources. If these sources exist, add them to the article. Letting articles sit with no sources is a sign that they are not notable. In fact NEXIST is really an excuse for laziness. To bring up counters to no sources in deletion debates, you should at least have to put them in the article. In this case, you have failed to do such. There is no vefifying if the article has no sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • John Pack Lambert, so you don't believe the topic's existence is verified until you see coverage in its English Wikipedia article? You really think The New York Times made up his and his book's existence? You're WP:POINT opinion on EXIST is noted, but if you'd like to change Wikipedia:Notability, you need to make a case in the WP:N talk page, not push your agenda on an Afd. --Oakshade (talk) 05:01, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • John Pack Lambert, you there? Really trying to understand your logic here. You don't believe an topic's existence is verified unless you see sources in it's English Wikipedia article?--Oakshade (talk) 19:10, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Manual of Painting and Calligraphy[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Opinions That DL Had[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Faux passeports[edit]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – Joe (talk) 14:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fuir[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:46, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

L'Herbe à brûler[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:46, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

L'Infini turbulent[edit]

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Ah, thank you! I could swear I looked at that one, but it's right there in our own article, so I must have moved on too quickly in my effort to get to the next of these machine gun AfDs. Mortee (talk) 01:47, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I did see this, but didn't consider it enough because I didn't find a second. I'd be happy to see an expanded article, but in this case I couldn't find the materials. Looking at the master's thesis bibliography, it suggests a couple of directions but nothing obvious or that I was able to track down. I have no strong objection to keeping the stub as a flag to future editors that there's work to be done. Mortee (talk) 01:47, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – Joe (talk) 14:44, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Izo (novel)[edit]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. – Joe (talk) 14:44, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Je suis écrivain[edit]

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The result was redirect to Neel Doff. @PamD: I am not sure what you meant by leaving the categories intact; please take a look. – Joe (talk) 14:46, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jours de famine et de détresse[edit]

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The result was redirect to Henri Michaux. – Joe (talk) 14:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Misérable Miracle[edit]

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Andrew, please stop making comments that could be read as attacking other contributors, as you did here, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drill commands, several other instances I linked there when I warned you about these remarks, and most heinously at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination), where virtually all your comments consist of nothing but attacks on, and assumptions of bad faith on the part of, the nominator. Hijiri 88 (やや) 09:04, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Jacqueline Harpman. – Joe (talk) 14:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

La Plage d'Ostende[edit]

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:41, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Saint-Germain ou la négociation[edit]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 16:19, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Terminator (Stevie B album)[edit]

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Fails WP:NALBUM, as tagged since June 2010. Independent reliable sources not found. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:48, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Changed my vote to delete for the reason stated above. What useful information there is has been added to the Stevie B article. Hzh (talk) 11:37, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The keep !votes lean heavily on WP:OTHERSTUFF and speculation about what a nonexistent SNG for handballers would say. The existing notability criteria for sportspeople are arbitrary enough; let's not start imagining new ones. – Joe (talk) 16:24, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Janne Grimholt[edit]

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Not sufficiently notable competitor of a predominantly amateur sport. Geschichte (talk) 21:12, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  • It might be professional in Denmark, Germany, France, Spain and some Eastern European countries. But not in Norway and most other countries, and especially not for women. Geschichte (talk) 19:55, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Answer I twice tried to make a guideline but nobody answered to me. So I gave it up. --Malo95 (talk) 16:07, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Basic Criteria WP:SPORTBASIC sets out some basic criteria that seem to lie somewhere between WP:GNG and WP:NORG in severity, the key component is requiring multiple sources instead of usually requiring them. It also suggests likely criteria that would indicate notability, but in lieu of specific sport rules, they are just that - suggestions. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:31, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think about the guidelines suggested by Malo95? --Trade (talk) 11:26, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Seems reasonable, but as someone who knows little about the sport I can't say if anything obvious is missing Nosebagbear (talk) 11:39, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment As i've said before, Grimholt have played dozens of matches in Eliteserien. But for some reason, Geschichte doesn't think it that counts. --Trade (talk) 12:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That is very aggressive reading of the basic criteria - they actually note that those who have performed at the highest level are likely to meet the notability criteria. That does not give a strict rule to the opposite Nosebagbear (talk) 20:27, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I would say my interpretation is reasonable (and typical), not aggressive. My point is that she doesn't meet the SNG for sportspeople. That doesn't mean she can't be notable, it just means that WP:GNG is the criteria she needs to meet. I don't think articles about her changing teams are enough to do that. Papaursa (talk) 20:50, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Papaursa, we already have dozens if not hundreds of handball biographies like this one. It doesn't make any sense to single this particular person out. --Trade (talk) 12:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid reason to keep this article. The relevant issue is whether or not this person meets any notability criteria and she doesn't appear to. None of the keep votes have shown evidence of a valid reason for keeping this article. If you don't want her singled out, feel free to nominate the other handball biographies you believe are equivalent. Papaursa (talk) 03:06, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. The assertions that there is significant coverage definitely lack substance; still, it has been three weeks and nobody but the nominator has advocated for deletion. – Joe (talk) 16:27, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

David Art Wales[edit]

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As the article states, David Art Wales is "best known" for creating Guru Adrian (whose Wikipedia page was merged with this one some years ago). He did this in the 1980s while working at Alan, the fanzine of the small Australian radio station Triple Jay — a magazine so obscure I cannot find any record of it at any Australian library.

Wales was then a host on the Australian TV show "Edge of the Wedge" which was cancelled after a few months. Apparently, some American studios expressed interest in making a TV show about Guru Adrian, but none ever did.

Since then, Wales has took part in several pranks and projects. It's hard to tell where the pranks end and the projects begin. Was "Nice Enterprises" a real business? Was his job at the bowling alley real? Did any else take part in Project Naughties? What is the point of the "Prudent Boozers"? And, moreover, who was Guru Adrian? Some of this seems to be puffery, like his girlfriend's burlesque show and his Toyota job. The article claims he launched Cinelan with Morgan Spurlock, but its website makes no mention of him. There is no evidence he influenced the term "noughties". Most of the sources come from a digitised scrapbook, which documents his exploits stretching back to when he was seven, which must have been compiled by Wales himself or someone close to him. And this article and the the old Guru Adrian article have the same feel. I don't think Wales is notable enough for Wikipedia. He was almost famous. He is mentioned at the Triple Jay article, and that is enough to cover his notability and that of his creation, Guru Adrian. Jack Upland (talk) 09:02, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Which sources establish notability? He has been mentioned in articles or interviewed multiple times for multiple reasons over 40 years. A lot of people are featured in the media occasionally, particularly if they are publicity-seeking, which Wales obviously is. I have been myself. Does that mean all of us, if we keep the clippings etc, become notable enough to have an article?--Jack Upland (talk) 08:21, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Publicity-seeking is a non-issue. What matters is whether one got the publicity. If you look at the sources in the article they clearly establish in-depth coverage by multiple reliable independent publications. And yes, if you have enough clippings of media coverage about yours truly, you can have an article. In-depth coverage by multiple reliable independent publications is all it takes.96.127.242.226 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:46, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's an untenable position. Many people have gleaned some publicity over 40 years of publicity-seeking (or whatever). The Sydney Morning Herald article from 1998, "A Job for the Guru" is the best source for establishing notability. But it introduces him by asking, "Minor eccentric or major talent"? and goes on to float the possibility that Guru Adrian will get an American TV deal. I don't think he's a major talent (or much of an eccentric) and I don't think there was a TV deal. The various sources don't together establish anything. They don't establish he's a notable artist. They establish he's a publicity seeker, who has perpetrated various jokes, hoaxes, publicity stunts, artworks etc since he was age 7. I'm not criticising him, and I wish him luck, but I don't think he belongs in an encyclopedia. And it doesn't seem that most people think that he does. No one has leapt in and said that Guru Adrian rocked their down under world. No one has produced new sources. We're left with an article based on a old scrapbook. What's the point?--Jack Upland (talk) 10:49, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's a very tenable position as it relies on our notability policy. Setting aside comments on his talent and whether he is a publicity-seeker (all artists are, btw!), the in-depth coverage in multiple reliable sources establish notability. The scrapbook argument does not wash as clearly it proves the exiistence of multiple reliable sources. You or I might not like his ilk, but he has been covered more than enough in RS to be notable.96.127.242.226 (talk) 21:45, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're just repeating the same line without answering my points. Have you tried Googling Wales? Nothing shows up, except things he (or an associate) has put up. That's strange for a notable person.--Jack Upland (talk) 21:48, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Can I add for clarification: I do not dislike Wales, or have anything against him. He seems amusing, but that's it...--Jack Upland (talk) 03:43, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep The article is reasonably well-sourced, and as he received good coverage in the news media, he qualify under WP:GNG and WP:NPERSON. Hzh (talk) 11:24, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 16:17, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Branch Metrics[edit]

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A directory-like listing for an unremarkable private company. Significant RS coverage not found. What comes up is routine notices, passing mentions and / or WP:SPIP. Created by Special:Contributions/Lidarosehasbrouck with few other contributions outside this topic. Does not meet new and improved WP:NCORP. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:05, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Lacks sources from the multiverse. – Joe (talk) 16:12, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Antarctican dollar[edit]

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This is not a currency but a non-notable collectable product. Fails GNG. Insufficient coverage in independent sources. Only coverage outside of its own web site are two non-notable sites. LukeSurl t c 13:50, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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What would 'in-universe' mean here? It's not a work of fiction. Mortee (talk) 23:08, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. After three weeks it's time to close this AfD, but there's nothing stopping editors from continuing the merge discussion on the talk page. – Joe (talk) 16:10, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of buildings and structures in Metro Moncton[edit]

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Essentially useless page, as there is no practical way of listing "every building in Moncton" and the ones listed are unremarkable anyway. Ultimograph5 (talk) 22:59, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Out of Ashes and redirect. I believe the usual practice is to redirect songs to the album (if an article on it exists), not the artist, but if I'm wrong feel free to merge it to Dead by Sunrise instead. – Joe (talk) 16:08, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Let Down (Dead by Sunrise song)[edit]

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Article is a single released by a project by Chester Bennington. However, the single did not chart and does not have significant independent coverage other than from music mags and sites. Does not meet WP:NSONG. The article has also had a notability tag since 2013. Before you wikipedians !vote redirect to Out of Ashes, note that there is an (arguably) more significant song by Radiohead on their OK Computer album of the same name. Jip Orlando (talk) 16:59, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The existence of a more significant song of the same name by Radiohead wouldn't impact the redirect-ability of this specific, disambiguated title, as said song by Radiohead clearly isn't a Dead by Sunrise song. (Plus the Let Down (Radiohead song) counterpart exists and is a redirect to OK Computer; the Bif Naked song of the same name exists as Let Down (Bif Naked song) and redirects to Superbeautifulmonster; and a disambiguation page exists at Let Down. If anything, that makes redirecting this specific one to the relevant album more reasonable) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 20:28, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, let me try to clarify. As it stands, 'let down' and 'Let down' currently hard redirect to the article in question. If redirected to Out of Ashes, the redirects would be incorrect and need to be retargeted. If consensus is reached for deleting this article, I would propose retargeting 'let down' and 'Let down' to the disambig page. Jip Orlando (talk) 21:14, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for explaining and yes, that'd make sense (both the explanation and the re-targets for those redirs). I'd also consider creating a Let Down (song) redirect to the disambig page alongside them if said consensus is reached. (Not voting yet, because I haven't had the time to do the necessary background research) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 21:43, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 16:06, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oswald K. Azumah[edit]

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Does not meet criteria of WP:GNG or WP:BIO. I am unable to find multiple reliable sources that discuss him significantly. Google search for "Oswald Azumah" or "Oswald K. Azumah" results in fewer than 100 listings, mainly of things he's written. Contested prod. ... discospinster talk 17:13, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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*Don't Delete The article meets credibility requirements. Ugfile.com and Myjoyonline.com are credibles news portals and they are both cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaintOhrszy (talkcontribs) 14:33, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi SaintOhrszy, it's worth having a look at this AfD Outcomes - "don't delete" could strictly mean anything other than delete, though reading your comment I assume you mean "Keep". Nosebagbear (talk) 10:56, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Vote removed for confirmed sockpuppetry Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SaintOhrszy. Hzh (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: KilaBeing should be warned for removing other people's vote. His or her first edit is also to vote on this, which is curious. Even more curiously SaintOhrszy also tried to delete another user's vote, and they both used the same edit summary. Hzh (talk) 11:42, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is really not curious. SaintOhrszy created the article and says "don't delete", and KilaBeing is a friend or colleague, who is not above using subterfuge to try and subvert the discussion. He will now try to demonstrate how unjust Wikipedia is by copying my comment above word by word to nominate Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernard Avle even though Bernard Avle is considerably more notable and my comment doesn't fit once plagiarised and out of context. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 11:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A sockpuppetry report has been filed. If confirmed, then his or her vote here can be struck off, and the AfD for Bernard Avle can be closed. Hzh (talk) 12:40, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 12:43, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Hzh: looks like your judgement was correct, both accounts have been blocked now. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 18:12, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've struck through their votes for sockpuppetry. Hzh (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Sandstein 08:54, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Meddy[edit]

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Fails WP:NPRODUCT WP:NWEB - mostly low-quality sources, passing mentions - being one of 500 startups is probably not enough notability for WP:NWEB. Seraphim System (talk) 10:21, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The remaining articles are routine announcements of a product release. The 2016 article from Qatar Tribune is a routine announcement about the launch of the Arabic language version of the website, and the 2014 article from Doha times is an announcement about the 2014 launch of the website, published just a few days after the product was launched. There isn't enough to pass WP:NPRODUCT or WP:NWEB. Seraphim System (talk) 12:02, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Inc. (magazine) is the American edition of the magazine. Peter James (talk) 10:15, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 11:18, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of European Olympic medalists of Americas and Caribbean origin[edit]

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Per outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of European Olympic medalists of African origin, WP:OR, WP:NOTDIR,WP:LISTCRUFT. Govvy (talk) 08:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 14:39, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ne vous disputez jamais avec un spectre[edit]

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Lack of Notability.
The corresponding article in French Wikipedia was deleted over 2 years ago; See that discussion.
PROD was denied less than 24 hours ago; See reason here.
-- DexterPointy (talk) 08:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Shadowowl: AfD works better than PROD -- DexterPointy (talk) 08:48, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@DexterPointy: I used PROD because AFD would clutter this page with 50+ nominations and the articles would be relisted if someone wouldn't have the time to copypaste the same delete vote every time. -- » Shadowowl | talk 12:02, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Shadowowl: Sorry! I was overly brief in my ping. What I should have written was "I see your PROD was (possibly arrogantly) nuked, so I fired an AfD at the article, which should work here where PROP failed.". It was simply intended as an informational ping. -- DexterPointy (talk) 18:15, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@DexterPointy: You don't have to apologize when there is nothing to apologize for. I apologize for reacting a bit harsh. I have 2 editors (1 admin) stalking my prod's and nuking them and that is making me a bit angry sometimes. -- » Shadowowl | talk 18:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this is a two-sentence article, saying little more than the book is a novel and when it was published. Vorbee (talk) 09:59, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Alex Shih (talk) 12:08, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pritam Mandal[edit]

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Unremarkable musician. Failing WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Unreliable sources. Also apparently undisclosed COI editing with editors seemingly closely related. There are bunch of rejected AfC in draft as well at Draft:Pritam Mandal and Draft:Pritam Mandal (version 2) with same rationale. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 08:20, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 11:23, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gabrielle Ryan[edit]

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No significant coverage in reliable sources and there is no evidence she played a major/significant role in films or tv shows listed in the article. Fails WP:NACTOR and appears to be a case of WP:TOOSOON. GSS (talk|c|em) 06:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was procedural close. Article moved to draft and replaced by a redirect. ansh666 06:44, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for Alaska (miniseries)[edit]

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Per WP:TOOSOON, series got announced back in May to be released by Hulu but no mention of casting, filming, release date, or even production beginning. I'd suggest either deleting it or drafting it until production is confirmed. QueerFilmNerdtalk 05:19, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Went ahead and moved to draftspace per Wikipedia:Be bold. – BoogerD (talk) 05:23, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 15:05, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Saturday Night Live guests (A–D)[edit]

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WP:UNR WP:LISTCRUFT of all guests appearing on Saturday Night Live. Program has been on for 43 years and there are many notable incidents involving guests. However, listing all guests across six articles is excessive, the list is unreferenced and is WP:IINFO. AldezD (talk) 12:00, 13 July 2018 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages for same reasons above. Only linked source is to single fansite that does not meet WP:V:[reply]

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  • Other than WP:V. Ajf773 (talk) 21:48, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are single sources on some of those lists, but not sure if they are sufficient enough. Ajf773 (talk) 23:56, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 15:02, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Static Blue[edit]

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Non-notable music producer with minimal media coverage. aNode (discuss) 04:57, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 15:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Short[edit]

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Fails WP:ARTIST; no significant exhibition or critical reception. Lists school scholarships as awards. And... saatchiart.com Theredproject (talk) 04:51, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 15:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Suhay[edit]

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Although this was kept at AfD in 2006, I believe the subject does not fit our tighter modern criteria for notability. I did a fairly thorough search for sources about Suhay (rather than by her), and the best I came up with was a local paper reporting that she had been hired as social media coordinator and one review of one of her books on CNN from 2000. As far as I can see there's been nothing of impact since.

Per WP:NAUTHOR, simply being published is not enough for a claim of notability; per point 3, a person must be the primary subject of a work discussing their body of work, or per point 4 it has to have attracted significant critical attention (ie more than one review). I can find no evidence to confirm either. ♠PMC(talk) 04:41, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to United Airlines. – Joe (talk) 15:33, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chelsea Food Services[edit]

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no evidence of coverage in article or through an online search ... per article "company has no website" Wolfson5 (talk) 17:33, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Instead of deleting the article maybe it could be incorporated into the United Airlines article or the United Continental Holdings company. — Mr X ☎️ 19:56, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#1. Nomination withdrawn with no outstanding delete votes. (non-admin closure) • Gene93k (talk) 08:34, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Karin Schubert[edit]

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She does not seem to satisfy the criteria under WP:PORNO or WP:ENT. No sources on this article or in the movies' respective articles seem to support having starred multiple notable movies. Leefeniaures audiendi audiat 03:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The page in Cannes literally just mentions that she had a supporting role in one movie that appeared there, so it doesn't count, plus this book seems to be independent self-published work. Leefeniaures audiendi audiat 06:31, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Cannes page is some kind of archive for a major release that she co-starred in, in 1971 (click on "casting"). Here is the publisher's catalogue of the book mentioned above. They do not look like self-published books. For one, Self published books typically do not have such good cover design. These are professionally released books.96.127.242.226 (talk) 06:42, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And here is the streetview of Editions Intervale in Paris (pan to the right in Google). It's the real deal, which means the book on her published by them is a significant in-depth source.96.127.242.226 (talk) 06:46, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

After the IP's contributions, I no longer feel it's wise to advocate for deletion. Instead, keep. Leefeniaures audiendi audiat 08:46, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#2c, "making nominations of the same article with the same arguments immediately after they were strongly rejected in a recently closed deletion discussion". Consensus in the previous AfD discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump baby balloon around five days ago was overwhelmingly for the article to be retained. North America1000 04:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Trump baby balloon[edit]

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Per WP:RECENT and WP:NOTNEWS, this is not a notable, long-lasting subject. Greggens (talk) 03:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Not quite a WP:CSD#G4, but consensus has not changed since the AfD last year. – Joe (talk) 16:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dominique Clare[edit]

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Subject has written articles in reliable sources but lacks significant coverage detailing him, thus lacking notability. Meatsgains(talk) 02:40, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I want to improve this page and am open to all help or suggestions. I felt the sources I provided were legitimate sources from well-established radio stations in their respective regions. Jessicacarter2018 (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Tham Luang cave rescue. The delete side is basically arguing WP:BIO1E. The keep side is saying, yeah, but this was a big enough event. Reading WP:BIO1E, I'm of the opinion that it applies here. Some people are arguing that 1E doesn't apply because he was also a cyclist, but I don't see any evidence that his cycling made him notable in any way, so I reject that argument.

There was a suggestion that the discussion at Talk:Tham Luang cave rescue#Saman Kunan article should also be considered. I did take a look at that. What I found was that there's very large overlap between the people who participated in the two discussions, so I didn't feel the talk page discussion added anything that wasn't already expressed here.

As for delete vs merge vs merge and delete, and maybe a few other variations, I don't see any reason to delete. You only do that if you need to hide the history, and there's no reason to do that here. So, we're really left with merge. There's already something about him in the parent article, so merge really means selective merge. It may well be that selective means, everything we need is already there, so don't merge anything more and just turn it into a redirect. I leave that judgement call up to whoever executes the merge. Whatever you decide to merge or not merge, you certainly want to leave a redirect. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:16, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Saman Kunan[edit]

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The subject was unknown prior to his death during the Tham Luang cave rescue, making this a clear case of WP:ONEEVENT. While his death was unfortunate, his role in the event was not significant. The cycling section fails all criteria at WP:NCYCLING. It is noted that the creation of this article was against opinions expressed at Talk:Tham Luang cave rescue#Saman Kunan article. WWGB (talk) 01:31, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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1) As the others have said, the guy apparently has had some coverage before the rescue operation
2) Read my arguments on the talk page of the rescue op article. We have an article about the GUN JFK was shot with. THE GUN. The one event rule really doubles down to the amount of coverage the object received. If there is alot of it - an article may very well be written about the topic. And I believe we have enough coverage for this guy. Openlydialectic (talk) 05:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have ANY idea how much research and coverage - sometimes contradictory - that gun has attracted? No one gives a damn about the gun per se, only about the tons of evidence (and speculation) associated with it. Pincrete (talk) 09:39, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That is exactly my point, the gun is definitively a one-event weapon, just like the murderers various friends, (Ella German, Marina Oswald Porter, Ruth Paine, Michael Paine, George de Mohrenschildt, etc), and the murderer himself. And the building. And everything related to the crime. Yet, since they had alot of info written on them thru the last 50 years they got their own articles, so theres a big question do you think one event rule is not applicable to them, but is applicable to this guy Openlydialectic (talk) 16:24, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet WWGB (talk) 06:17, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above vote was CANVASSED by the AFD nominator. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEx_nihil&type=revision&diff=851251794&oldid=845186505 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanrich (talkcontribs) 20:23, 22 July 2018 (UTC) Sock comment struck. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:24, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bullshit. I notified everyone who commented on the article talk page, whether for or against a separate Kunan article. WWGB (talk) 06:17, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
How much weight should we give to an argument that it should be deleted per the seemingly non-existent WP:TOPICAL? Tlhslobus (talk) 14:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nihil admits that it will probably stand the test of time in Thailand. This is not USA Wikipedia. If there are many reliable sources (and their is over 100 in Thai) that is many. The only issue is using those citations in here, which would upset people. Vanrich (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet. WWGB (talk) 07:06, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Put even some of the information in the Cave Rescue article and it will be promptly removed citing that it's not rescue related. This has already happened. This is evidence that this sub-article is needed. How much harm is keeping an article that abides by the rules? Some people just want destruction, I'm sorry to say. Vanrich (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet. WWGB (talk) 07:06, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As before, how much weight should we give to an argument that it should be deleted per the seemingly non-existent WP:TOPICAL? Tlhslobus (talk) 14:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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UNTRUE. The guy got First Class, the second highest. That is the same level as Norodom of Cambodia and The Earl Louis Mountbatten (Prince Charles uncle assassinated by the IRA). It is NOT given to 5 year service people. The guy got Knight Grand Cross (First Class), not Member (5th Class). Vanrich (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet. WWGB (talk) 07:06, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above vote was CANVASSED by the AFD nominator. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AManifestation&type=revision&diff=851251491&oldid=849805231 This canvassing was done only to people who hinted favoring delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanrich (talkcontribs) 20:20, 22 July 2018 (UTC) Sock comment struck. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:24, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bullshit. I notified everyone who commented on the article talk page, whether for or against a separate Kunan article. WWGB (talk) 06:17, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: this could also be userfied to the namespace of User:Thai Cave Person, who wrote the original version of this article. - Manifestation (talk) 14:44, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Thai Cave Rescue article could be userfied to User:Manifestation and only 3-4 sentences in the cave article. Manifestation's suggestion is appreciated but a bad suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanrich (talkcontribs) at 19:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Account has been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet. WWGB (talk) 07:06, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've struck through my above comment about userfication of this article. That was a stupid idea to begin with, and the account in question has been blocked anyway. Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 16:51, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree that the sockpuppetry affects the article. When it comes to notability, it is not the reputation of the writer that merits consideration, but the benefit to the reader. If an article is right to exist, then it doesn't matter if it was started by a 15-year veteran with more than 100,000 edits, or a new account created for sockpuppetry. — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 11:49, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Icewhiz: To clarify, Kunan was awarded the Knight Grand Cross (First Class), which per Orders, decorations, and medals of Thailand is approximately eleventh in the order of precedence (out of nearly 50 decorations listed). With respect to the point about being "bestowed regularly for five years of service" - this statement is uncited in the decoration's article, and to be honest, probably refers to the lower ranks of the order (such as Sixth and Seventh Class). — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 09:43, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not an expert in the Thai honor system - however this isn't close to being the nation's highest award for valour for SOLDIER(1). The notability of the individual seems to rise completely from the event - the cave rescue - there is no need for a spinoff here.Icewhiz (talk) 11:07, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  1. It is partly to avoid creating articles that have no possibility of expansion beyond a short stub, no matter what quality the limited number of sources;
  2. It is partly to avoid keeping unnecessarily extensive articles on people who had a small role in a barely-notable event.
To address the first point: From the article on the Thai Wikipedia (which I believe is actually the source of a lot of the current material), and from the sources that have illustrated Kunan's life, I think there is enough evidence of material enough for a reasonable biography already (the Thai page is already a reasonable length, with details of his life, family, and career; to invoke Tlhslobus' mention of WP:BIAS vs translated content, I believe it is the source text for the original version of this article), and this is only a couple of weeks after his death. While I don't want to get into WP:CRYSTAL issues, I would be very surprised if further material didn't come out to further elaborate on his biography, so I can't see the first point being an issue.
Now, with regards to the second point: The event itself is clearly notable. It occupied headlines internationally for a prolonged period (incidentally alongside the FIFA World Cup, which is something watched by approximately half the population of the human race) and has become a part of popular knowledge and perception about Thailand. Through this, the actions of the volunteers have come to symbolise modern Thailand for people both inside and outside Thailand. Volunteers who gave up their time to help with every aspect of an incredibly complex operation, farmers who graciously accepted the flooding of their fields with the pumping water, and divers who put their lives on the line to ensure the safe rescue. As part of the last group, Kunan gave his life in this, and in his death has become a figurehead for the voluntary sacrifices that got those children out safely. As one of the rescuing divers, he played a significant role in the escape (arguably as significant as the other divers), but in his voluntary sacrifice, has become pivotal in understanding the event and the culture surrounding it. To delete the article would be to diminish Wikipedia's coverage of an event significant in the modern history of a country. — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 08:49, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTMEMORIAL states "Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize deceased friends, relatives, acquaintances, or others". Hence, it is not irrelevant here, as asserted above. WWGB (talk) 10:51, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:NOTMEMORIAL actually states: Memorials. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements. Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize deceased friends, relatives, acquaintances, or others who do not meet such requirements.
  • Both the above claims of irrelevance acknowledge this 'others', but basically point out that this requires an argument that the dead person is not notable, not a simple assertion that MEMORIAL is being violated.Tlhslobus (talk) 13:37, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
already tried and was removed Somebody added a large block of text and it was immediately removed. To try to merge would start edit wars. This bio is a legitimate separate article. Vanrich (talk) 23:40, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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OK then, just Delete as per Ex nihil. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:04, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Current article is not a memorial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanrich (talkcontribs) at 23:40, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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It basically amounts to that. There's a tiny bit about where he came from and what sports he practised. Then the article describes how he died, how he was posthumously decorated, and how he got a royally-sponsored funeral. That's it. That's the entire article. Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 10:36, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Who was apparently closely related to User:Thai Cave Person, amongst others. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes, I just saw that. Thai Cave Person (talk · contribs), the original creator of this article, is also a sock. He was a character created by the same person behind Vanrich, presumably from Thailand, complete with poor English prose to make it look believable. - Manifestation (talk) 18:32, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Um, I don't wish to appear vindictive, but isn't there something in policy about content created by sockpuppets? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:39, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Martinevans123: WP:SOCKHELP guidance basically says (under §Deleting articles or article edits) that it isn't cut and dry. If it's large-scale vandalism or generally unproductive, then treat it as such. Otherwise, treat it as any other disputed content. — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 11:27, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thanks. I can't help feeling that many editors here might see this whole discussion, including the original article creation, as an annoying waste of time. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:31, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps, but there have still been points put forward by MPS1992, Openlydialectic, Tlhslobus, and myself in favour of the article being kept. To be honest, I had also repointed an alternative romanisation (Saman Gunan) to this page, and was preparing to translate the Thai article before I'd seen this page already existed, so while the sockpuppetry has wasted people's time in engaging with dishonest accounts, I wouldn't say it's entirely invalidated everyting it's touched. — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 11:42, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure you're correct. All the contributions by those editors and yourself have been made in perfectly good faith. There just seems to be an odd contradiction between the striking of "sockpuppet comments" here while we continue to discuss an entire "sockpuppet article". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, I rewrote this "sockpuppet article" a few days ago. Others made changes too. There's little left of the original. - Manifestation (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying. Encyclopedia material can be useful, or not useful, regardless of who creates it. And it should be judged on it's own inherent merits. I hope you don't feel too tainted by the sock revelations. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:52, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all. And yes you're right. Banned means banned, but it would be counter-productive to mindlessly delete anything a banned user wrote. Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 17:08, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Still, the sockpuppetry revelations are not entirely irrelevant to the argument - I've reduced my above !vote from Keep to Weak Keep, as I think the revelations probably now significantly reduce any risk that deletion will damage Wikipedia's reputation.Tlhslobus (talk) 20:38, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If anything I would make the argument that the sockpupeteer wanted to prevent the article about this person from appearing on Wikipedia, so he created the article himself in such a poor shape we still cant fix it. I mean, just look at what the article looked like when the sockpupeteer created it: [[120]] Openlydialectic (talk) 22:57, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And someone else might make the argument that the sockpuppeteer certainly wanted the article to appear, and so created an article in such a poor shape that they guessed many folks would try and join in with fixing it. I'm not sure I'd argue that. But we'll never know either way, will we. Bluff? Double bluff? Who knows?? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:24, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOREASON - please, read this. You need to explain your position in any voting discussion on Wikipedia, otherwise your vote won't count. Openlydialectic (talk) 22:14, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't WP:BIO1E reason enough? That paragraph basically sums it all up. Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 14:09, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes and no. As I and others have argued, BIO1E / ONEEVENT is not a hard-and-fast rule, but involves looking at both the importance of the event and the role of the person in the event. — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 14:16, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Manifestation: He added WP:BIO1E after I made my comment. Originally it was just a vote with no explanation Openlydialectic (talk) 04:04, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Openlydialectic: No. - Manifestation (talk) 10:33, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Manifestation: Sorry, my mistake, I guess I hallucinated it Openlydialectic (talk) 18:09, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree that it is quite that cut-and-dry. Gavrilo Princip is only notable for one event, but it was a highly notable event that changed the course of world history. While this event is not quite that significant, it is still a significant event in the recent history of Thailand, and Kunan's sacrifice has made him a figurehead for all the sacrifices that volunteers made to ensure the group's safe escape. — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 11:49, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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