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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 04:38, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cultivation Capital[edit]

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Small VC firm with very little funds that fails WP:CORP. All coverage is in passing in minor local publications, except perhaps this one, which is still as part of a group of companies featured. Rest is blogs, press releases, minor or otherwise non-independent coverage (most of which is actually about companies they participate in financing. PK650 (talk) 04:18, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Avi (talk) 06:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Trivikram G[edit]

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Fails WP:DIRECTOR & doesn’t possess in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources. Celestina007 (talk) 23:21, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy-delete (A7/G11). (non-admin closure) AllyD (talk) 07:57, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

SABYNYC[edit]

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Subject of article fails WP:NMUSIC & doesn’t possess in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Celestina007 (talk) 22:38, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Ah! GPL93 why didn’t i think of that??? Thanks!!! Celestina007 (talk) 00:25, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Celestina007: No problem. Good catch by you in the first place. Best, GPL93 (talk) 23:28, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 13:37, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Massa[edit]

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Subject of article is about a certain Joe Massa but 80% of the references talks about his brother a Christian Massa. Subject of the article hasn’t received enough significant coverage in RS hence falls short of WP:GNG Celestina007 (talk) 22:32, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, the articles that I found on google in relation to the subject all contain information that is pertinent to the article. Several of the articles are written solely and in depth about the subject - all of which are reputable sources posted by official newspapers/outlets. The remaining articles in question (that you are referring to as being about Christian Massa) still support the subject as it appears that the work created by Joe Massa, was a dual effort and was done with his brother, thus directly relates to Joe Massa. It is in this manner that I feel the articles support this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hidden Hills Editor (talkcontribs) 23:13, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 23:59, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Tegar Pribadi[edit]

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. No evidence of him playing in Liga 1 matches, which is the only FPL in Indonesia. BlameRuiner (talk) 22:18, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 00:01, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rigzin Spalbar[edit]

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District level politician. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL.--S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 21:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:17, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Elive[edit]

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Was previously deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elive (the deletion rationale here is the same as there); this recreation does not seem similar enough in content to meet Wikipedia:G4, but it does not address the issues raised previously either. Glades12 (talk) 21:12, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 00:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sonam Dawa[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. District level politician.--S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 21:04, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 23:46, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hand Made House[edit]

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Non-notable band, no coverage in major media outlets, just primary sources and a name drop by Rob Thomas (musician) Praxidicae (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep, albeit weakly. BD2412 T 04:24, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tjan (musician)[edit]

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Subject of article lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources. Furthermore the references provided in the article doesn’t establish notability for subject of article. He fails WP:SINGER & WP:GNG Celestina007 (talk) 20:38, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • That's all well and good, but how does that stack up against NMUSIC? Gossip rags are not reliable sources, being signed to a label doesn't establish notability, and are any of those nominations notable? PK650 (talk) 23:40, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Bearian, I think PK650 is right and from your own observations and remarks it provides a good rationale for why the article should indeed be deleted. If he is up and coming and perhaps in the future would get notable then this is a case of WP:TOOSOON article may be recreated at a time when there are reliable sources we can work with what do you think/say?Celestina007 (talk) 21:41, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of the sources presented above, two are short event announcements, one is a photo gallery, and I am unsure as to the reliability of the other two (musicinafrica & thenet.ng). I am just not seeing "good coverage" in reliable sources. PK650 (talk) 23:03, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Tribune ref seems sig cov in a reliable source and his award and noms are covered in some of the others, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:50, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In any case the Tribune article would be one source, not significant coverage. Award nomination articles listing him among others is also not significant coverage. What needs to be determined is whether these Nigerian awards are evidence of notability, a fact which nobody here has been able to prove/disprove. PK650 (talk) 10:20, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. She may have been part of a newsworthy story but per the discussion does not evince Wikipedia notability. No prejudice against recreating the article should she become notable. Avi (talk) 06:29, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Erinn Cosby[edit]

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As per WP:NOTINHERITED notability isn’t inherited. Article creator says subject of article is a photographer but she fails WP:CREATIVE Celestina007 (talk) 20:31, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't know what "presentism" means. Sorry! But I think the fact her father is a sexual assaulter who did not get the police involved when his daughter was assaulted is a part of the overall story. His refusal to take responsibility extended to people who attacked his family.

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°I don't know what "presentism" means. Sorry! But I think the fact her father is a sexual assaulter who did not get the police involved when his daughter was sexually assaulted by a man who also went to jail for assault is a part of the overall story. Cosby's refusal to take responsibility extended to people who attacked his family. She is a part of two events, two men whose stories are featured in Wiki. Margodono (talk) 18:32, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 13:23, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jallarzi Sallavarian[edit]

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Fictional character from Greyhawk, a D&D setting. No secondary sources cited, no evidence of real-world notability. Josh Milburn (talk) 20:23, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bright Desert[edit]

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Fictional location in Greyhawk, a D&D setting. No secondary sources cited, no evidence of real-world notability. Josh Milburn (talk) 19:54, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:11, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Magog (Andromeda)[edit]

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Unnotable fancruft article with only in-universe content and no significant media coverage. The one sentence in Andromeda (TV series)#Premise is quite sufficient. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:53, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reasons:

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The result was delete. Does not exhibit significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable, secondary sources. Avi (talk) 06:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A-Style[edit]

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Other than their new ridiculous logo, nothing has changed wrt notability. Praxidicae (talk) 19:43, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 00:06, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Federation of the European Sporting Goods Industry[edit]

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Article created by obvious COI editor with no evidence of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. The sources in the article are all either self-cites or at best passing mentions. WP:BEFORE does not disclose any cites that would qualify under WP:NORG. There is a lot of "this organization is a partner" type references in stories about other topics or "FESI says skiing will continue to grow" and other WP:MILL routine business coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:36, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Definitely fails GNG and I agree there is COI here too. Can it not be speedy deleted? No Great Shaker (talk) 15:19, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 00:10, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

John F. Barry[edit]

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Could not find really any RS that was specifically on this subject as a topic (e.g. no WP:SIGCOV); all I find are PR Newswire/Reuters-type releases on him as CEO of his firm Prospect Capital (which is slightly more notable), and some mentions of donations by his family foundation. No material RS wants to cover him as a dedicated subject (e.g. no Wall Street Journal profile/bio, which is a core part of any Wall Street BLP in my view), so why should Wikipedia? Possibly a Redirect to his firm Prospect Capital Management instead? Britishfinance (talk) 19:29, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Britishfinance: I already created an SPI for @Finguru888: and the sockpuppeteer User:ProspectCapital. Should be open and shut and both articles can be speedy deleted and probably should also be WP:SALTed. Best, GPL93 (talk) 20:31, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nice job GPL93. Britishfinance (talk) 20:32, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 00:17, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gusztáv Dietz[edit]

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Subject is a mixed martial arts fighter. Subject fails WP:MMABIO for not having fought in any top tier promotion and not having any major achievements. As for the competition in IBJJF (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu) is not a black belt championship. Content on his fights are standard routine reports - fails WP:GNG CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:13, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 00:20, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Harry Cowell[edit]

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Subject of article doesn’t possess in-depth significant coverage in Reliable sources. Most sources given in the article are not reliable sources. Subject of article fails WP:GNG & WP:SINGER. Furthermore a similar article on subject of article has once been deleted in the past. Celestina007 (talk) 18:46, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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P.S. I acknowledge my error in !voting otherwise in the AfD five years ago. See, you can teach an old dog new tricks. Bearian (talk) 16:47, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 17:08, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Igor Trunov[edit]

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No claim to any notability. Fails WP:BIO. Deleted in Russian Wikipedia. Mitte27 (talk) 18:23, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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That isn't a reliable source for the purposes of establishing his notability per WP:PROF either. Even that notability criterion is not automatically passed just because it's technically confirmable in a bad or unreliable source — it still has to be supported by a non-trivial kind and volume of reliable sourcing, such as analysis of his academic work in academic journals, before a person actually gets that pass. Bearcat (talk) 21:35, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 17:12, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chantelle Nicholson[edit]

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Promo article for a non notable chef that fails WP:BIO/WP:BASIC/WP:GNG. References in article doesn’t even mention subject of the article Celestina007 (talk) 17:06, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Have expanded the content about her books, with review/interview in The Observer adding to her notability. PamD 12:51, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:07, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ADVFN[edit]

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Fails WP:CORP. This was originally started as an extremely WP:PROMO article by a single-purpose account (see this AFD for more details). It has subsequently been edited to eliminate the WP:PROMO material, however this leaves the only references to reliable sources being references to the defamation case which ADVFN was involved in.

Per WP:ILLCON: "It is possible that an organization that is not itself generally notable will have a number of significant sources discussing its (alleged) illegal conduct. Sources that primarily discuss purely such conduct shall not be used to establish an organization's notability per this guideline." As such this fails WP:CORP and is not notable.

My WP:BEFORE search turned up nothing else but coverage in blogs and other such unreliable sources related to Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, or short instances of coverage that do not meet WP:SIGCOV. ADVFN would not be notable under WP:CRIME either as defamation of this kind is run-of-the-mill and anyway the subject would be the defamation case, not the company. Whilst the company is listed, it is only listed on the Alternative Investment Market, a minor market in which companies need only be nominated by a nominated adviser (of which there as dozens) to be listed and which contains more than 1000 companies, and as such fails WP:LISTED as it is not a major stock-exchange comparable to the main NYSE. FOARP (talk) 16:41, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of Ravenloft characters#Rudolph van Richten. Restoring redirect decided in previous AfD, and ECP-salting to prevent another anonymous restoration. Since a merge was done, we should keep the history. RL0919 (talk) 17:08, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rudolph van Richten[edit]

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The article is written from an in-universe perspective, consists solely of a plot summary and has no secondary or tetriary sources. The previous AfD closed as merge, but the article was later restored by user:2601:D:B480:ED2:30ED:FD01:8965:1176 with the explanation "going to work on this one a bit". However, no significant changes were made to the page after the restoration. Not a very active user (talk) 16:55, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 00:22, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seminole Warhawk Band[edit]

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Article about a high school band program, referenced almost entirely to primary sources rather than evidence of any significant or notability-conferring press coverage. As always, topics like this are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist; the notability test is the reception of reliable source coverage about it in media. But there are just two pieces of media coverage being cited here, and they're both purely local coverage in the school's own local media market -- literally every last one of the other 25 footnotes is primary sourcing such as the band's own self-published content about itself, press releases from its parent school or the school board, and program "recaps" on the self-published websites of competitions they participated in. These are directly affiliated sources, not independent or neutral media coverage, so they are not notability-supporting sources -- and furthermore, the article is liberally threaded with inappropriate offsite links to YouTube video clips of their performances, which are also not notability-building sources. And with just two real media sources here which are both purely local, it has not been adequately demonstrated that they pass WP:GNG. Bearcat (talk) 16:45, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:34, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shirin Kanchwala[edit]

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Subject of article fails WP:GNG and as per WP:NACTOR she doesn’t scale through as well. Celestina007 (talk) 16:33, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 16:23, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anagha Janaki[edit]

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Subject of article lacks in depth coverage in reliable sources and doesn’t qualify per general notability guidelines. Celestina007 (talk) 16:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 17:17, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Crispin Miller[edit]

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Fails all relevant notability guidelines. No significant coverage in reliable sources per WP:GNG, no indication that his research has had a significant impact in his field. He has not received a highly prestigious academic award or honor nor is he a member of a prestigious scholarly society or association per WP:ACADEMIC.

Sourcing is terrible with the only citations worth anything being a frontline interview and an article in the Observer. This despite having a BLP ref improve template since 2008. Bonewah (talk) 16:02, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Struck duplicate !vote from nominator; the nomination is considered as your !vote. However, feel free to comment all you'd like. See WP:AFDFORMAT for more information. North America1000 07:57, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The issue is the notability, or not, of this article topic. There has not been evidence that this article meets the standard of the appropriate notability guideline and some editors are affirmatively suggesting it does not leading to a delete consensus. It is important to note that while everything that is included in Wikipedia must be verifiable not everything that is verifiable is included. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:16, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Microsystems keyboard[edit]

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Not everything that verifiably exists needs an article, we are not a product guide. No evidence of notability. Sources added after it was Prod'ded, but these include unreliable sources like personal webpages[3][4] and wikis[5][6], and a how-to page with very limited information about the actual subject[7]. Fram (talk) 14:19, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you explain what exactly differentiates e.g. Mac book page (or rather a page about historical hardware) from this one on a generic level ? How is that not a "product guide" ? As for the sources, this is the best that could be found on the internet I believe. The how to page[8] was specifically included for verifiability that the actual key combination exists. Is verifiability important or not ? I created this page because I posses knowledge that is not to be found anywhere else and there is no such document that would include all the information in one place. Also, I have the intent to keep improving the page. Have to admit I am baffled. Vladcz (talk) 20:51, 3 December 2019 (CET)
The problem is not the effort you put into the article, but simply that you have provided us with the the best that could be find, and it isn't good enough. For e.g. the Mac book there are plenty of good sources about its design, impact, ... Such reliable sources giving significant attention to this keyboard seem to be lacking, and that means that we shouldn't have an article on it. Wikipedia is not meant to be the first site to write at length about something, but an site which summarizes other sources. Fram (talk) 07:54, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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If you look at Category:Computer_keyboard_models, there are multiple articles about individual keyboards, so the comparison between steering wheels is not entirely correct. Sun Microsystems was a major computer manufacturer in the past, comparable to Apple who has multiple articles about individual keyboards. Note that this article is about all the keyboards produced by Sun, there aren't separate articles for every keyboard made by Sun. A reason for their notability is their influence on the design of today's keyboards. Dwaro (talk) 13:30, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"A reason for their notability is their influence on the design of today's keyboards.": citation needed. If they are influential on today's keyboards, then there should be articles, books, ... actually indicating this, and one would expect these to be available online in some form. The apparent lack of such sources shows that these keyboards were not influential (or that no one has recognised this influence openly, which is for our purposes the same). Fram (talk) 13:44, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For example, the HHKB: "The keys are arranged in a layout resembling the Sun Type 3 keyboard.". The Sun keyboards were also the first with a compose key for Unix machines. Also, browsing the Apple hardware articles, most of them don't have any reason specified why they are notable. They exist and are produced by Apple. The Apple Extended Keyboard lists some unique features without any source. Dwaro (talk) 14:00, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable sources, not another Wikipedia article. And WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, perhaps some of these other articles should be deleted as well, perhaps they just need the good sources which are available to be added. Fram (talk) 14:55, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. czar 16:22, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel Montclair[edit]

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No indication of notability as per WP:NBUILD Building was only around for 30 years, does not appear to be a historic site. Rusf10 (talk) 15:21, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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So let's keep because it's old and there's a nice photo of it? Could you possibly come up with a reason less based in policy than this?--Rusf10 (talk) 02:44, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Michepman:Why don't you educate yourself on what a WP:SNOW Keep is. Two votes does not equal a snow keep and is is beyond ridiculous for you to suggest otherwise. Andrew has not provided any policy based reason to keep, other than his usual flawed argument that if at least one source exists somewhere then the article meets WP:GNG. This is not true. GNG requires significant coverage in multiple sources. And even then it only creates a presumption, so it still debatable whether the subject passes GNG. We only have two local sources that even mention the subject. That's far from auto-passing GNG.--Rusf10 (talk) 15:48, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • @Rusf10: - Fair enough. I will strike through the 'snow' reference per your feedback. I still think that this article is notable though. Michepman (talk) 23:30, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to List of The Sandman characters. Tone 15:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merv Pumpkinhead[edit]

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This article fails to establish notability. TTN (talk) 14:31, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 15:02, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Okpaleke[edit]

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Supposed entrepreneur but seems to be film producer. Non-notable. Fails WP:BIO. Some minor coverage. scope_creepTalk 14:20, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tone 15:02, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Muriel Frances Dana[edit]

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IMDb is not a reliable source. The methods it uses to create its database are not transpaprent. Beyond this, it aims to create articles on everyone who ever has appeared in a publicly published film. Our aim is much less grand, we want to only cover those who have some impact. So IMDb is inherently flawed to show notability. This article lacks any other sources, and a search for more sources turened up nothing. John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:11, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dark Gods (Marvel Comics)[edit]

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This article fails to establish notability. TTN (talk) 13:57, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Big Pig. Tone 15:02, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Disbray[edit]

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Autobio of non notable musician. Has no notability independent of his band. Solo career and books lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:19, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 15:01, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Bongiorno[edit]

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Non-notable musician. Bongiorno is a journeyman musician who has strung together a career, but not a notable one. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:10, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Anarchyte (talk | work) 13:48, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vance E. Salter[edit]

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Fails WP:JUDGE. Florida 3rd District Court of Appeals is not a statewide judgeship. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jive Jones[edit]

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This page was created 12 years ago with no references, and none have been added since. I've made more than one good faith search and came up with nothing. The artist released a single album, "Me , Myself, & I", which achieved no chart entries (the US and the UK), and no significant media coverage. This page seems to serve only promotional purposes, and doesn't have any encyclopedic value. SteveStrummer (talk) 21:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Celestina007 The article's creator's last edit was in July 2007, so he's likely long gone. James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 17:29, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It would be super if this coverage could be added to the article, or at least linked here, so we could evaluate it. SteveStrummer (talk) 16:45, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Samboy, WP:BAND states an artist "may be notable by satisfying at least one of its criteria. The Dutch charts apparently fulfill that one criterion, but the songwriting and production work is not notable unless it's received significant coverage in RS. I'm not convinced by the Italian link you provided: are you sure it's about the right person? Because according to that, one of his credits dates back to 1981—when Jones would be 1 year old. SteveStrummer (talk) 21:38, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I can be sure that the 1981 song (an early Limahl single) was produced by someone else using the same name. See this description and Limahl’s own take on that 1981 song. In terms of “Cowboy & Kisses” and that Italian page, it lines up with What Discogs has to say about what Jive has done. In terms of the Mandy Moore song, I can verify Jive’s involvement (Here, he is credited by his birth name, Denny Kleinman) Samboy (talk) 00:34, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation. North America1000 07:53, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zattoo[edit]

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WP:ADVERT, fails WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV, WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 17:46, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#1. A valid rationale for deletion is not present. See WP:DEL-REASON for examples of valid rationales. Note that per WP:NEXIST, notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, rather than the state of sourcing in articles. Also of note is that the article actually has two references in it in the form of primary sources, although these do not serve to establish notability. North America1000 07:47, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sevanan Business School[edit]

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Not referenced at all. ZH8000 (talk) 10:58, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. ♠PMC(talk) 17:07, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiquote[edit]

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Fails WP:WEBCRIT. I have searched for sources in news websites, Google Books, Google Scholars and JSTOR. The only independent source of significant coverage I found was this. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 19:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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There are some sources about an incident in which fake quotes posted on the website lost Rush Limbaugh a business deal, e.g. The Most Dangerous Man in America: Rush Limbaugh's Assault on Reason (p. 11), (23 Nov 2009) Rush Limbaugh lost his bid to be part-owner of the St. Louis Rams. National Review, David Warren (17 Oct 2009) The Wisdom of Crowds. Ottawa Citizen, but these sources don't discuss the actual website in any depth. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 21:23, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
[5] and [6] are the same article and UB Reporter is a student paper, which aren't usually considered to be great sources... SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 15:47, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
? About the future: [19] best to skip first 5m. Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:05, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
[8] is from Wikimania and therefore not independent. The only reason to keep this page is navel-gazing. Not every WMF project is notable, especially this one. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 12:01, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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I decided to list them all because they were also being nominated for deletion in the first round by the nominator - Jay (talk) 08:24, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It is not all or nothing and this AfD has nothing to do with the other wikis, most of which are independently notable. Notability is not inherited and what is the real reason why it doesn't deserve an article in here? because it does not meet our criteria for inclusion. The same reason we delete any article about any subject that does not meet Wikipedia:Notability. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 14:50, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My point is, Wikiquote is not really known out there, that is why we don't see much being written about it outside Wiki. But if we delete it, would it help? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia or a collection of useful articles about something like this. I'm not talking about promotional articles (which I strongly object) but information about what is "the subject" such as in this case "Wikiquote" is important for readers to understand it's purpose. I used articles like this to educate most of friends who are not familiar about Wiki family. To me this article should be kept since it has the purpose and value to people who want to know more about Wiki and its "family". It may not be useful to some of us here because we know what it is but think of its value to others? It lacks of independent sources/ external reference because many out there don't really know the function of it thus made it less notable than its sister projects but by deleting it will make it more and more unknown. To me, Wikiquote is important therefore this article deserves to be kept and further improved -Jay (talk) 15:56, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  1. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wikiquote.org
  2. https://web.archive.org/web/20120716195919/http://www.buffalo.edu/ubreporter/archives/vol38/vol38n19/columns/eh.html
  3. https://web.archive.org/web/20120504164927/http://archives.dawn.com/weekly/science/archive/070127/science15.htm
  4. Wikis for Dummies. John Wiley & Sons. p. 58.
  5. Protocollo MIUR-Wikimedia" (in Italian). Ministero dell'istruzione, dell'università e della ricerca.
  6. Buscaldi, D.; Rosso, P. (2007). Masulli F., Mitra S., Pasi G. (eds.). Some Experiments in Humour Recognition Using the Italian Wikiquote Collection.
  7. Chorowski, Jan; Łancucki, Adrian; Malik, Szymon; Pawlikowski, Maciej; Rychlikowski, Paweł; Zykowski, Paweł (21 May 2018). A Talker Ensemble: the University of Wrocław
  8. Rickson, Sharon (22 November 2013). "How to Research a Quotation". New York Pubic Library.

- Jay (talk) 05:48, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree with Apples&Manzanas that the Admin should also read up WP:COMMONSENSE and keep the article instead of relist this nomination again and again; and insisted on WP:GNG and WP:WEBCRIT only. Not only the Admin should use common sense, the Admin must also look at the values and benefits of the article for readers. I have written in lengthy about the values and benefits for readers before, and dont plan to repeat that again. We already have 6 "Keep" vote, I believe the nomination should be closed by keeping the article. - Jay (talk) 05:57, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also see above discussions where I point out none of the other sources flag have anything significant to pass WP:GNG. WP:WEBCRIT #1 is basically the same as WP:GNG. There has been no sources shown that Wikiquote passes WP:WEBCRIT #2, which is for websites that have received a significant award. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 21:17, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I obviously disagree with Coffeeandcrumbs's assessment here. (Woods & Theony, 2011) in Wiki for Dummies is sufficient to pass WP:RS and is not a trivial passing mention and their work is far from a collection of wiki websites. Obviously in both (Buscaldi et al, 2007) (paywalled) and (Chorowski et al,2008) on a topic other than WikiQuote and they both giving a far more than passing mention to the WikiQuote and explaining why they chose to use it. To go on to the WP:WEBCRIT ... if I quote from the sufficient Criteria#1: The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. ... Well what are (Buscaldi et al, 2007) and (Chorowski et al,2008) if not using content from Wikiquote. And One can also look a the citations from the article (Rentoul 2013) and (Robinson 2019) who are using content from WikiQuote for their work. So the notability stands. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 00:45, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 15:01, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kamille McKinney[edit]

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There's nothing to be said about her. No significance. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 09:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Many of those sites just rehash text from Associated Press or NBC, in order to provide content for the 24-hour news cycle. Per WP:GNG, "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability". WWGB (talk) 01:44, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 15:01, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Ukraine Civic Movement[edit]

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No claim to any notability. Fails WP:NORG. Deleted in Russian Wikipedia. Mitte27 (talk) 09:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tone 15:01, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Northeast Derby (I-League)[edit]

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All the rivalries mentioned here are not notable enough to have a separate page for "derby" Coderzombie (talk) 09:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@GiantSnowman: While there have been mentions about the games as derby, but is it enough to qualify for the notability as derby? Coderzombie (talk) 10:13, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Closing as delete for both this and the related discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy Ben Artzi. The evidence presented in the two discussions indicates that they probably are not notable as a duo, and definitely are not yet notable individually. RL0919 (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gigi Ben Artzi[edit]

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Might be a case of WP:TOOSOON, but right now doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER. Onel5969 TT me 20:56, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I disagree. I don't understand why the article is even being considered for deletion when it's clear that notability has been established and the article is properly sourced. --Omer Toledano (talk) 10:56, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Omer Toledano (talk) 13:07, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@StonyBrook:, @Onel5969:, thanks for your input. I've gone ahead and expanded the article with legitimate 3rd party sources (mainstream Israeli news sources) which cover the subject matter in a way which is beyond mere mention. I kindly ask to please withdraw the AfD request. --Omer Toledano (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @StonyBrook:, thanks. I agree. It's clear that notability exists which has been established on the basis of both brothers Gigi Ben Artzi and Roy Ben Artzi collaborating as a duo across various mediums (photography, music, video direction). If it would be a better idea to merge both articles and have them represented as a duo then I see no reason not to. --Omer Toledano (talk) 08:45, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @StonyBrook:, @Onel5969:, I've also expanded it further and added additional references. This AfD request should be revoked in my opinion. --Omer Toledano (talk) 16:18, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - all you've done is WP:CITEBOMB, with more trivial mentions. Citebombing is usually a good indicator of the weakness of a notability claim. Onel5969 TT me 16:53, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - @Onel5969: I beg to differ. I believe you are mistaken and your claim and AfD request is completely unjustified. Gigi Ben Artzi is a well-established and well-known personality in his various fields. Kindly revoke your AfD request. --Omer Toledano (talk) 05:00, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Onel5969:, @StonyBrook:, I've created the article Roy and Gigi Ben Artzi. It's clear that the pair have established themselves as a creative duo through their various directorial and musical endeavors. --Omer Toledano (talk) 07:56, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Gigi gets plenty of photo credit in published media, but that alone doesn't establish notability, the same way a journalist's bylines don't. I see no independent recognition of him nor his brother as notable fashion photographers. StonyBrook (talk) 21:22, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 04:14, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Marcin Ciesielski[edit]

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Stub for sportsperson with only one reference to a stats page. No updates since creation in 2006. WP:BEFORE search discloses no significant coverage in reliable sources. The teams listed on the stat pare are not in the list of fully professional leagues for Poland so fails WP:NFOOTBALL as well as WP:GNG. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 04:03, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Clear consensus to remove the article, but it's not so clear if a merge, a redirect or plain deletion are warranted. The most compelling argument presented in the latter regard is that there are apparently no reliable sources to endorse the content, so deletion it is ... but people can add redirects at editorial discretion and perhaps ask at WP:REFUND for the page history should good sourcing surface. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Four Mile Globster[edit]

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Article is currently supported only by fringe cryptozoological sources, and a WP:BEFORE search failed to return significant RS coverage. The very idea that a rotting mass of flesh has "flippers" and "hair" represents a fringe viewpoint and no mainstream sources exist that could be used to write a balanced, NPOV-compliant article. –dlthewave 03:21, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 15:04, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-chopper[edit]

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A stub with no independent sources. A quick Google search revealed nothing more than sales websites with this product. There are some videos of this product in use, and there is a "news" article that mostly reports what the creator said. I do not see any significant and independent coverage of this medical tool in reliable sources. William2001(talk) 22:50, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The walls of text added by the IP obviously don't succeed in convincing the other editors here that the subject is notable. Randykitty (talk) 13:09, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

European Platform for Sport Innovation[edit]

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no indication of meeting WP:ORG guidelines. Given references are either primary or not significant coverage. Google searches not finding any significant third party coverage. noq (talk) 18:01, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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EPSI is a strong reality in Sport environment, both in Brussels and at European level. They are partners of the EU Commission in the European Week of Sport and they are in the same business area - and same dimension - of many other non-for-profit organizations that are already present on Wikipedia

Here just few of the amount of articles foundable on the web about the European Platform for Sport Innovation (all third partiers):

EPSI at Innovation marathon of Italian Football Federation https://www.huffingtonpost.it/entry/lhackathon-figc-un-messaggio-all-italia-e-all-europa_it_5cc1b774e4b0e68bc67bc5d2

EPSI in Turin for “Innovation in Sportswear” https://torino.repubblica.it/young-turin/2018/06/26/news/torino_fashion_week_liceali_in_passerella_tra_moda_e_sport-200081799/?refresh_ce

Article about Europe and Sport, talking about EPSI role in the sport policy http://www.sporteimpianti.it/principale/tsport/rubriche-tsport/opinione/europa-lo-sport/

EPSI Executive Director at Italian Parliament, talking about the importance of including sport in EU Policy http://www.newsbiella.it/2019/03/06/leggi-notizia/argomenti/attualita-1/articolo/inserire-lo-sport-nel-programma-di-lavoro-dellue-convegno-a-roma-presente-anche-roberto-pella.html

EPSI role in Sport Tech District: https://sportup.startupitalia.eu/2019/10/16/sport-tech-district-il-luogo-dove-30-espositori-hanno-mostrato-il-futuro-dello-sport/

Article about European Perspective of Sports https://www.huffingtonpost.it/entry/be-sport-nuove-prospettive-europee-su-sport-e-innovazione_it_5dc6a6a5e4b02bf5794076c5

EPSI role in Inno4Sports project, aimed at creating clusters of regions in sport innovation https://www.tulodz.pl/sport,inne,iii-spotkanie-interesariuszy-projektu-inno4sports,new,mg,5,25.html,3010

Article about EPSI enlargement https://www.ispo.com/en/markets/european-platform-sport-innovation-epsi-new-partners

Interview to Alberto Bichi about House of Sport https://www.ideaconsult.be/en/spotlight/house-of-sports-boosting-synergies-in-the-european-sports-ecosystem

Stefrengo (talk) 10:03, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A few passing mentions, not articles about EPSI. Please see WP:Significant coverage. noq (talk) 13:25, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The last two of the lists were only about EPSI. Moreover I can add examples of articles regarding directly EPSI, their projects, their partnerships, their events and conferences.

https://www.dalasportsacademy.se/2017/11/24/sv-SE/6th-european-platform-for-sports-innovation-conference-38120095

http://www.cbbs.hr/en/epsi-cbbs-started-co-operation-in-south-eastern-central-europe/

http://www.necstour.eu/epsi-necstour-mou

http://www.ecos-europe.com/sphere/co-innovate-in-sport-2019/

https://varala.fi/varala-sports-institute-joins-the-network-of-european-platform-for-sport-innovation-epsi/

https://www.eyvol.eu/partners/european-platform-for-sport-innovation-epsi

Moreover, EPSI is a network of 65 organizations coming from 19 European Countries. some of these organizations are on Wikipedia too.

91.223.167.193 (talk) 18:51, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please identify which (if any) amongst the list of announcements by related organisations is independent of EPSI. Who apart from the members are talking about EPSI specifically rather than brief mentions in articles about other things. noq (talk) 16:25, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A part from Varala (who is a member) and EYVOL (a Project were EPSI is part), all other websites and links attached are not EPSI members or projects, but indipendent and external organizations that are talking about EPSI.

91.223.167.193 (talk) 18:36, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just clicking and reading some of those links shows that your statement above is not true. The Ecos link is a "page not found", the necstour and cbbs links are announcements of partnerships, the dala sports academy link is an announcement that someone attended a conference. None are independent coverage of EPSI. noq (talk) 10:27, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


EPSI has created partnership with external organizations (like NECSTOUR and CBBS) that are not part of EPSI, but indipendent and external organizations. Regarding ECOS, you are right, I attach you the right one (http://www.ecos-europe.com/sphere/2019/07/01/sphere-project-in-brussels-for-co-innovate-in-sport-2019/) ECOS is another indipendent organization. Dala sports Academy, it was not about a conference, but a EPSI Conference, so I honestly do not see why you are saying that it is not true, while it is...

EPSI is a relevant organization in the world of sport in Belgium, especially at institutional level. it is partner of the EU Commission for EU week of sport (cited in EU Commission website: https://ec.europa.eu/sport/week-partners_en), as well as other organizations (i.e. FESI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_the_European_Sporting_Goods_Industry) that are already present in Wikipedia. Actually I do not understand the point of this discussion, with check of every link. All of them are from indipendent third parties.91.223.167.193 (talk) 11:22, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:Independent sources. Partner organisations are not independent sources of information. Also, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. noq (talk) 14:07, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I provided more than 20 external sources and several of them are not EPSI partners... the EU Commission itself cannot be considered an "EPSI dependent" organization. Regarding the other wikipedia page quoted, it was just an example of a similar organization (with no external sources on the page), whose creation did not create any problems. 91.223.167.193 (talk) 17:05, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I can add for example these too (independent and reliable as well):
FranceClusters.fr (french network of business clusters): http://franceclusters.fr/2017/12/11/the-epsi-platform/
SportEconomy.it (one of the biggest news sport industry portal in Italy): https://www.sporteconomy.it/sportaffari-epsi-a-supporto-del-sistema-sport-invernali/
Cruyff Institute (Sport Business Insitute) who dedicated one article to a recent EPSI Conference held in Barcelona): https://johancruyffinstitute.com/en/latest-news/future-sport-debated-barcelona/
Honestly speaking, after more than 10 days of this talk, new sources and link are still foundable, both on paper and in the web in independent sectorial magazines and websites. 91.223.167.193 (talk) 10:14, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
IP user, I urge you to please read the message I left on your user talk page to understand why experienced editors are disagreeing with you. It is neither personal against you nor animosity towards this organization. To address the substance of your reply, however: no; those links, like all those before, are not convincing. Your new links are not significant coverage, being mere acknowledgements of the existence of this organization or a simple conference announcement. I am sorry but this does not help your position. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:04, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Can be redirected at a later date if a connection is proven. Anarchyte (talk | work) 13:47, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cyber attack on Pensacola, Florida[edit]

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Just one of many cyber attacks. The main reason this was reported nationally is because it happened hours after the shooting at Naval Air Station Pensacola. If necessary, a reference to the cyber attack could be included on Naval Air Station Pensacola shooting, but there's no indication of a link between the two. Johndavies837 (talk) 01:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the part of no direct link between the 2 yet, however, logically they could be. I would say not to delete this article, and allow editors to write on it for a few days. Then re-look at the article and then consider for deletion or not. The article was created today, has a decent amount of national sources, and already is being offered for deletion. Give the article a change. Elijahandskip (talk) 02:01, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of deletion, I would be willing to move this into a draft so I may work on it. I would rather work on it for a few days then attempt to use the AFC submission system then watch the article be deleted without any chance to show notability or links. For all we know, minutes after the page is deleted, the FBI could release information that links the shooting with the cyber attacks. Again, I relate back to my previous statement "Give the article a chance". I would be ok with the draft idea instead of deletion if that is voted on.Elijahandskip (talk) 02:10, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Macanese cuisine. Despite spirited resistance from the IP, there's a clear consensus for redirecting this to Macanese cuisine. Randykitty (talk) 13:05, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Macau cuisine[edit]

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I think that Macanese cuisine is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for Macau cuisine, and that this should thus be converted to a redirect pointing to that article. The influences of Cantonese and Portuguese cuisine are discussed in Macanese cuisine and do not need to be disambiguated separately for this search term. I previously made this change and was reverted, so I'm bringing this discussion to a formal venue here. signed, Rosguill talk 00:08, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Is it me you're looking for? FOARP (talk) 08:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. What's your solution of the almond biscuit and pork chop bun issue? --146.95.196.240 (talk) 22:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My solution is . . . these aren't problems for AFD. But hey, I'm only a "tourist" with a "European POV". FOARP (talk) 11:51, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't twist my comment. Your idea was tourist or European, but it doesn't imply you were. --146.95.196.199 (talk) 22:49, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That is a content issue, not an article/topic issue. AfD is not for the content inside an article. thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 00:09, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
IP, if you're interested in correcting this issue, I would suggest drafting some content about Macau cuisine, distinct from Macanese cuisine, in draftspace. Depending on how much coverage you can find in reliable sources, we can then potentially incorporate that into a new article at Macau cuisine. signed, Rosguill talk 18:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill, perhaps I'll rewrite Macanese cuisine into a dual-topic article. Once there are enough content about Macau cuisine, it can be split into two articles. If you are redirecting Macau cuisine, make sure it's a Wikidata redirect to Macanese cuisine#Macau cuisine. --146.95.196.199 (talk) 22:49, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
An alternative might be to convert Macau cuisine to a WP:BCA, with a sentence or two on each specific topic. One thing Macau cuisine is not is a DAB page: see MOS:DABNOENTRY. DAB pages are intended to distinguish between ambiguous terms; here, only Macanese cuisine is a full title match, Cantonese and Portuguese cuisines are related topics and there is no ambiguity. If that is done, Cuisine of Macau should be retargetted to it. Narky Blert (talk) 11:49, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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