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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:08, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dea Rizkita[edit]

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Fails WP:NMODEL. Hasn't won a notable tournament - all of those in previous versions of the article are those being spammed by the multiple editors trying to claim the notability of Miss Grand International and its sub-pageants, all of which are non-notable. Black Kite (talk) 23:15, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:08, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nelson De La Nuez[edit]

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Fails WP:ARTIST. No substantial references in reliable sources. "Private Air Luxury Homes Magazine", "Global License Magazine", and "Designer Wallcoverings" do not confer notability. No major art awards. Most notable event was that article subject made the last art delivery to Michael Jackson. Article subject sells prints on eBay at modest prices. Just not seeing much notability here.

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  • Is it possible he's too recent to have been covered in such books? Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:38, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article claims that he has been "recognizable" since the 1980s. That's roughly 30 years ago. The sale of paintings to Michael Jackson was in 2009, which is eight years ago. There have been major books and museum exhibits in pop art in recent years, which did not include this artist, who claims to be "king" of that genre. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:14, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agreed. Here's some of his work. [1] He imitates Lichtenstein and Warhol, except he seems to use Photoshop. He's a good commercial illustrator. But not a famous one. John Nagle (talk) 01:24, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The British Museum, the Walker Art Center in Minneapolis, and the Smithsonian all have organized major retrospectives on pop art in recent years. The American shows are traveling exhibitions. All three shows are now on display, I believe. Hundreds of truly notable artists are part of these exhibitions, but not this particular one. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This editor was advised not to rant here, but did so anyway. He's listed some sources, but none of them appear to me to be reliable. Anyone who wants to do a closer investigation of those sources can see them below, but there's no point in leaving the rant out where it can poison the discussion.
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...You are showing your ignorance--This is a world renown sothebys collected artist. Roy Lichtenstein the King of Pop Art?? Are you kidding me? You sir do not know any art history-let me fill you in----he never created 1 original work of art--everything he ever made was taken from a comic book--directly---he stole every image and not just that but the text---http://nextpanel.blogspot.com/2011/08/roy-lichtenstein-plagiarist-or-art.html Nelson de la nuez creates every original image and writes it all himself--something Warhol and Lichtenstein never ever did. Warhol however created a movement--Pop Art--he will always be known for that-Lichtenstein created a "style"--the style of using the Ben Day dots--bubbles on the pieces...both are famous for styles of Pop Art BUT they did not have any originality when it came to creating. I am happy to educate you if you really want one. There is an entire background and story to De La Nuez becoming known as--NOT a self proclaimed King of pop art--you are also wrong--he did not make that title himself-he even says that in articles-"he's not that egotistical" -the press and news media created it when he sold to Michael Jackson and the headlines read "The King of Pop Buys from the King of Pop Art" It stuck-why not use it-everyone else did for him-? and years later it's his brand name--it's not HIS name-don't mistake it--many artists have brands and alternate names--why is this such a problem for you-do you not understand business?-why am I having to explain this? I am literally educating you guys about art and business and brands... By the way--there are many artists on here who list the notable celebrities they sell to because it is relevant and this was VERY relevant--The Wicked Witch piece became hugely famous and sold out worldwide--Michael Jackson actually did have a massive art collection and these were the final 3 paintings he purchased which was also in the articles. He purchased 3 very large paintings--not an "illustration" as you say. These are are very relevant--I do not know how you can say otherwise. I don't think we should have to prove any of this to you--other artists on here prove far lesser things so they all need to be deleted??

His brands which are many--licensing deals with major prestigious brands--luggage, home decor-this was all documented on his wikipedia--FACTS in his wikipedia- Not hype or promo--real contracts made, deals--a career--do you understand a huge career? This is someone known worldwide--only in your little tiny wikipedia world do you apparently not know famous art/artists--you have really shown that with the above statements that I helped clarify.

Why would you want to delete such a prolific artist with plenty of documentation and an amazing career to show? Why hate on others--you would love his work--he's collected by major corporations--hanging in Delta airlines in LAX and JFK VIP lounges, Kim Kardashian's shoe company and by thousands of celebrities so get your facts in order--I can prove anything you want. Any other questions? I am happy to answer about the art world in general or about the famous artist Nelson De La Nuez. It would be so great if anyone wanted to actually contribute in a positive manner to his article and replace the FACTS which were all there but you want to hide them....if you delete or remove his information than there are far more artists than him that will have to go first... He is far far more notable than many that are listed on wikipedia. I can give you hundreds of links and magazine articles he's been featured in and that are online & in print--how much time do you have? this is so middle ages...by acting as though you really don't know his work or who he is, it's making you look really bad. You guys do whatever you want here on this blog-I realize that-it's the strangest thing..but I really wish you'd actually honestly care about leaving real people with real facts on wikipedia. Here's just a few random links for you--these are so easy to find-he has countless galleries, art & museum shows-see below-I can't even begin to list all of them with links for you...here's a few but it definitely shows you didn't try very hard to see who he was--there is far more out there...you shouldn't need any more justification at ALL to keep his name on here as a highly collected world renowned artist. He is far superior in his career stage and sales to SO many others you have on here now. I will not edit it again-I just want you to agree to find 1 objective positive person who knows a tad bit about art to edit it & isn't out to attack him because you guys also shouldn't be editing it from your mean spirited comments you appear to be coming from. You also have proven the lack of art knowledge. It's only fair to him to have someone impartial with knowledge to edit his page. I get you don't like my writing and that's fine but don't delete a well known artist and show hate for a person's career because of that. I am simply trying to lay off myself from the article (I have not touched it) and shed some light on the matter because it's gone too far & I don't know why when I did nothing wrong but you are so angry.... He shouldn't have to prove any prices or anything to you to be listed who he is on here..he has MORE than enough.

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  • Artworldpro: When I let you know you that you are allowed to comment here, I specifically said that you should be polite, civil and collegial, and that you should not rant. So, instead, you came here and ranted. None of the sources you listed is reliable, they're blogs, store sites and PR. I'm going to hat your rant, and suggest that you not comment here again, since it seems you cannot behave in a fashion that is acceptable on Wikipedia. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:22, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, artist bios in small museums are generally provided by the artist or the artist's representative, and the bio in the Coral Spring Museum citation above has all the signs of PR-speak which infests all of the writing about this artist. Clearly self-promotional. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:06, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, indeed, it is an article in the LA Times. and it is laudable that you found it, bur the contents of the article have to do with Cartoon Network latching on to De La Nuez. Cartoon Network cannot really be described as a reliable source regarding modern art, so I think the net result doesn't change the lack of notability noted above. Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:13, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, the Cartoon Network is no authority on modern art! But the article wasn't published by the Cartoon Network, it was published by the L.A. times. We aren't evaluating whether or not the subject qualifies as a modern pop artist according to the Cartoon Network (which may or may not be accurate), we are evaluating whether or not he is the main subject of reliable independent verifiable sources, and I think the L.A. Times does qualify as that. Thoughts? KDS4444 (talk) 01:15, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's correct. But what else is there? EEng 01:37, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Other than that, I guess I got nothin'. I got nothin' else. KDS4444 (talk) 03:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That article originated at the Burbank Leader, one of the regional papers published by the Los Angeles Times. Here's the Burbank Leader version.[3], where it ran with the subhead "Hoover grad's take on the form has drawn the attention of Cartoon Network, and Michael Jackson was a fan, too." It's a story in Burbank because De La Nuez went to Herbert Hoover High School (Glendale). (That school article lists De La Nuez as a notable alumnus, added in this edit [4] by Artworldpro (talk · contribs).) John Nagle (talk) 07:35, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. My heart won't exactly break if this article is deleted; I originally stubbed it, rather than speedying it, because there seemed to be just enough legitimate coverage to justify a very short, very neutral article. but the unrelenting stream of promotion and self-promotion inflates this dollar-store-level knockoff of Roy Lichtenstein into a world-class artist. (Even his "King of Pop Art" self-assumed title is a bit of a fake; it's not in the TMZ headlines where he claims it comes from, and as a trademark it doesn't refer to his work, but to products from a company he owns, apparently not limited to his own work.) The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 12:29, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to dietary fiber. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:09, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

High residue diet[edit]

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There is no substantial content here. I am not sure why "residue" is the term here when the cited sources say "fiber". This content can be deleted and the article can redirect to dietary fiber. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:04, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:11, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regan Booty[edit]

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Doesn't pass WP:NFOOTY, as they have not played a game with a professional club yet. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 20:24, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:46, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Empire[edit]

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Unsigned local artist/local activists, who's released two apparently self-produced songs online. Some local stories, about doing local things, of interest to a local newspaper, but nothing approaching notability that I can see. TimothyJosephWood 20:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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Unfortunately, neither of those links seem to mention the subject at all, and generally subjects are required to have received sustained coverage in independent reliable sources in order to satisfy our notability standards. This subject may satisfy them one day, and maybe even one day soon, but they do not appear that they satisfy them currently. TimothyJosephWood 22:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest you watch the first link again, and look out for his name, it is clearly mentioned at 16 seconds of the Lynx advert that received substantial national coverageOfficial k (talk) 22:06, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't watch it the first time, because vimeo links, like youtube links, are not generally considered ", and basically all of the coverage I found about the subject, was from the local newspaper, which doesn't really count toward notability. TimothyJosephWood 22:11, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
i don't know how you expect to look at old tv ads without using youtube or vemio, the information is to hand, maybe you should use it and you said that he was not mentioned in the link giving the impression you had looked at it, how would you know if he had been mentioned or not without lookingOfficial k (talk) 22:15, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't expect to look at old TV ads, because old TV ads do not meet our standards for reliable sources. TimothyJosephWood 22:18, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
not old, recent tv adsOfficial k (talk) 22:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The same principle applies. If there are independent sources that cover the subject's presence in this ad, then that may contribute to notability, but the add itself contributes basically nothing. But it turns out that when actually notable people appear in an ads they tend to get independent coverage. TimothyJosephWood 22:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Might i suggest that "MSM" newspapers are not relevant, and the subjects audience does not use normal media outlets so hence the lack of information, the audience base of the subject uses social media, this subject is verified on Facebook with the blue check mark on his page, the blue tick is ONLY given to notable public figures,it is not given on page likes, it is given on notability. if facebook is saying he is notable and have given him the blue tick to show it, who are you to argue with who the largest social media platform in the world says is notableOfficial k (talk) 22:30, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[1]Official k (talk) 22:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[2]as mentioned today's consumers of information to not use newspapers as they are not relevant, and the subjects audience does not use normal media outlets so hence the lack of information, the audience base of the subject uses social media, this subject is verified on Facebook with the blue check mark on his page, the blue tick is ONLY given to notable public figures, it is not given on page likes, it is given on notability. if facebook is saying he is notable and have given him the blue tick to show it, who are you to argue with who the largest social media platform in the world says is notable. this is a simple fact. I would trust the verification process of Facebook with 2billion users, maybe age or region may be a factor to why you dont understand this. the subject also its the host of two podcats with a global reachOfficial k (talk) 22:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


If you have been on Tv, write for a newspaper and is national gay and lesbian charity ambassador your notable, is213.205.251.21 (talk) 00:23, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Is does not sayi it is NOT accepted, and the word usually implies that under some circumstances it is acceptable, not many people get featured in advertising i.e. The Lynx advert that featured him as a lead alongside British group hurts. This singer may not be globally notable but to LGBT people and dancers (south side story) and brands (Lynx, Facebook) he is notable, I accept that the original post was too glorying of the subject and I have made amendments 213.205.251.21 (talk) 10:12, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. With no prejudice against recreation if and when more coverage establishes notability. SoWhy 09:25, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Eroadster[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, in particular "Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors". Almost all sources I found were from June/July 2015, and predicted full production for 2016. The only recent reference appears to be yet another press-release reprint in a small local paper, now predicting 2018/19 production.[5] The photos seem to be fake - there has been no prototype, the road markings are not Irish, there is nobody in the car, it has no registration plates. The project seems to have been student vapourware. — Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 09:13, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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As a matter of interest, I can't find anything in your website about a factory or any premises at all. Not even a postal address. How do you propose to build a prototype, never mind operate a production line, without a factory? And why is your project now being ignored by the mainstream motoring press? Is a press-release reprint in the Longford Leader (a small-town weekly) the best you can do? Why would anybody have faith that the deposits you are asking them to pay will not just be money down the drain? — Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 07:25, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was draftify. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:13, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Wiedenheft[edit]

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WP:TOOSOON. Only one anime convention and it's local to where she is in Fort Worth, Texas. [6] No coverage of her career, only cast announcements. None of the anime titles that she stars in have been broadcast widely on television, Cartoon Network/Adult Swim, or Netflix/Amazon. They're all within the limited Funimation subscribed service. Recommend her article be pushed back to Draft until notability has been proven. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:27, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:15, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blac Chyna[edit]

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Started work on the article, removing unreliable sources and looking for proper ones, and then I thought "But how is she even notable?" Former stripper, model, video extra, runs a beauty salon. I don't see what makes her meet the notability guidelines. Yintan  18:08, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I did, but I found that most hits are about her ex-boyfriend, not really about her. Yintan  06:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Is that a reason to keep? What it "feels like"? I nominated the article for the reason I mentioned above, not because of a current messy breakup. Yintan  06:00, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Which, as far as I can tell, is not one of the notability criteria. And then there's WP:NOTNEWS as well. Yintan  09:54, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:17, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Winfred Bynum[edit]

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Fails notability, probably created by a paid editor - note that this editor is one of several repeatedly recreating another promotional article, Lil Cory Doug Weller talk 17:55, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:18, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of television series considered the best[edit]

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Unencyclopedic list. Fails WP:LSC. No discernible uniform criteria. Evaluation appears entirely subjective. Subject is insanely broad. Ad Orientem (talk) 17:44, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Per WP:SKCRIT#1. (non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 17:00, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

National Institute of Textile Engineering and Research[edit]

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cyber.ghost 16:21, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:20, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Digital gifting[edit]

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This isn't really about a concept that has been discussed by reliable sources, but is the author's own thoughts, and thus original research. It also has promotional aspects. No real encyclopedic value. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:14, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep per nominator's withdrawal in the face of new search tools and sources being offered.. Schmidt, Michael Q. 01:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Utharaswayamvaram[edit]

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NOM WITHDRAWN Fails the GNG, most mentions of the name are for another poem, not this movie. None of the external links in the bottom are very much good. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 15:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Jupitus Smart Thanks for pointing that out. I was totally unaware of the WikiProject page on Indian film websites, that should help me when assessing these film articles. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 00:48, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE, since the previous AfD was closed as speedy delete, rather than by consensus. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:22, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Spigit[edit]

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Another Corporate Spam. Poor references, Press and writing is for promotional only. Coverage are typical press. Light2021 (talk) 15:38, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:24, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Rizvi (director)[edit]

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Completely self-promotional. Fails to provide WP:RS to verify as per WP:V. Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. No source to prove his claim of winning PTV awards. Greenbörg (talk) 15:11, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:25, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Archives elimination in Cameroon[edit]

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Try as I might, I have not been able to find any sources specific to the Archive Elimination in Cameroon (not even in French). All of the current sources are from French paper destruction (shredding) companies - nothing specific to Cameroon, and unfortunately not independently published. This article was nominated for PROD once. menaechmi (talk) 14:57, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:26, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rabbi Rosen[edit]

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The speedy delete was declined with "Decline speedy delete, this is about a real person and a real person can not be made up". I didn't find any reference in English and Hebrew about this rabbi. The source provided in article does not even mention him. Looks like a hoax. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:48, 10 July 2017 (UTC) Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:48, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If it is a hoax, that is a WP:G3, not WP:A11. If it is a real person without a claim to significance it is a WP:A7, still not a WP:A11. ~ GB fan 14:57, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WP:A11 says "obviously invented". I guess a person, with no source showing he ever existed is obviously invented by the author. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That would then be a hoax and fall under WP:G3. ~ GB fan 15:05, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:27, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chaudhry Farrukh Altaf[edit]

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Fails to provide any WP:RS to verify as per WP:V. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Greenbörg (talk) 14:37, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:28, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chaudhry Shafaat Hussain[edit]

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Article might have a source but fails to provide any WP:RS to verify as per WP:V. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Greenbörg (talk) 14:35, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:28, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Andi Qerfozi[edit]

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the grounds that the article might meet WP:GNG based on the sources listed. However, these are routine sports generally considered insufficient to meet WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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(edit-conflict) Of the sources listed, only the first one is not very clearly routine coverage. Sources two and three are database entries, which WP:NSPORT actually addresses explicitly: Trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may be used to support content in an article, but it is not sufficient to establish notability. This includes listings in database sources with low, wide-sweeping generic standards of inclusion. Four and six are transfer announcements, which are usually not considered sufficient for general notability. (See this afd for a recent example.) Five is a squad list which does not cover the subject in any sort of detail. The first source approaches significance, but I would argue that it is too short and insufficiently neutral to be indicative of general notability by itself. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:29, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Great answer, thanks. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 21:04, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is a long standing consensus against applying WP:NFOOTY prematurely in anticipation of debut. The page can always restored, if and when he makes first appearance for Grasshoper. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:59, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:28, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Zia Malik[edit]

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Fail to provide WP:RS so fails WP:GNG. Fails WP:NPOL too. Greenbörg (talk) 14:22, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:28, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rana Aftab Ahmed[edit]

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Fail to provide WP:RS so fails WP:GNG. Fails WP:NPOL too. Greenbörg (talk) 14:21, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:28, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mian Zahid Hussain Khan[edit]

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Fail to provide WP:RS so fails WP:GNG. Fails WP:NPOL too. Greenbörg (talk) 14:20, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:29, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Intsar Ahmad Khan[edit]

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Fail to provide WP:RS so fails WP:GNG. Fails WP:NPOL too. Greenbörg (talk) 14:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:29, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nikolas Mattheou[edit]

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by an IP without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:17, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Shamsher Ali Mazari[edit]

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Fail to provide WP:RS so fails WP:GNG. Fails WP:NPOL too. Greenbörg (talk) 14:16, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:29, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Ibrahim Doda[edit]

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Fail to provide WP:RS. Fails WP:GNG. Fails WP:NPOLITICIAN as he is Deputy Mayor with not much coverage about his work in independent sources. Greenbörg (talk) 14:13, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:32, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Optimist (dinghy)[edit]

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The references provided here are all either primary sources, non-independent sources, PDF files, or are dead links. No evidence has been provided of non-trivial discussion in reliable, independent, secondary, published sources. As near as I can tell from an Internet search, "Optimist" appears to be a brand name for a dingy, in which case this article probably qualifies as promotional. Found lots of hits, but none that discussed the subject in depth and appeared to be independent of the subject. KDS4444 (talk) 13:46, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Prabhat Jain[edit]

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fails to meet WP:GNG. Saqib (talk) 13:07, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:53, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

NB: Open access in Albania and Open access in Iceland were both tagged for deletion and linked to this debate, but not explicitly included in the list of nominated articles here. Since they closely follow the format of the other deleted articles of this type, and since they were properly tagged, I'm going to go ahead and delete them as well. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:59, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Open access in Vietnam[edit]

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I came across these pages whilst new page reviewing. All of them seem to have been created by the same user over a span of a couple of days, which may explain why many of them appear to violate our policy of no original research. Many of them are unsourced which makes it difficult to verify their content and to assess their independent notability. I suggest that all the pages be deleted on these grounds with a warm invitation to Filippo Morsiani, the creator, to create a List of open access policies by country article, preferable through a draft.

Please also note the consensus gained on similar articles in deletion discussions here.

TL;DR: delete all per WP:NOR, WP:V and WP:N and invite creator to create a list encompassing all of them.

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My impression at the time was that the article creator was accepting the deletion of the half-dozen or so I deleted a month ago, rather than of the entire project. But time will tell, of course. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:24, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Ryan Holiday#Books. SoWhy 09:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Growth Hacker Marketing[edit]

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The question is notability, in particular WP:NBOOK. To be honest I have seen worse survive AfD, but upon checking I see that NBOOK#1 specifically excludes publications where the author (...) advertise[s] or speak[s] about the book, under which quite a few of the refs fall (e.g. two Forbes sources are interviews with the author), and many other smell of copy-pasted press releases. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:44, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NBOOK guideline #1 specifically stipulates that it has to have been the subject of two or more published works. This book meets that requirement. Bobhambrick (talk) 23:36, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Bobhambrick: links please. (Genuinely asking, because I couldn't find them in the refs or online) TigraanClick here to contact me 17:03, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Here are a handful that mention the book:
Another piece the notability puzzle is that this book seems to be (or have been) the subject of instruction at several colleges and universities, which is specifically stipulated in NBOOK#4
Some good points have been mentioned about references on the page which can be corrected, but the book does qualify as notable. Keep. Bobhambrick (talk) 18:03, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
For the links: [10], [11], [12], [13]: passing mentions (not even a full paragraph discussing the book). [14] is not an independent source (cf. nomination).
For NBOOK #4, I think it fails the footnote which says This criterion does not include textbooks or reference books written specifically for study in educational programs, but only independent works deemed sufficiently significant to be the subject of study themselves (...) (emphasis added). IIRC it was meant to refer to works such as King Lear or Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica. TigraanClick here to contact me 16:15, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The book in question is not written specifically for academic curriculum and yet it is studied in the classroom, so while not remotely as notable as the texts you provide as examples it does still make it notable as a subject of instruction. Bobhambrick (talk) 16:59, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The question is what "subject of study" means. I would think it is intended in a meta-analysis sense (i.e. how was the book relevant to a current of thought, what impact did it have at the time of publishing or later on its subject or on its author's notoriety, etc.), otherwise I don't really see the point of excluding textbooks but including books that end up being used as textbooks. TigraanClick here to contact me 09:54, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I left a note at the talk page for NBOOK, in the hope it will bring more help. TigraanClick here to contact me 17:14, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:34, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pranay Agrawal[edit]

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Shallow coverage in RSs. The article has all the hallmarks of a commissioned work. Rentier (talk) 11:29, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:35, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

David Ouma[edit]

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 07:37, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 09:04, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

James Zabiela[edit]

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:51, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:36, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nottingham Spirk[edit]

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It does not establish the Notability and other criteria. Promotional in nature. Press coverage as par with standards. Light2021 (talk) 11:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. G7 speedy delete -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 11:52, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Run (comics)[edit]

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This is a dictionary definition, not an encyclopedia article. It's about the usage of a regular English word in a particular context, cited to examples of that usage, and perhaps would be better included as a usage of "run" in Wiktionary, but it no more requires an encyclopedia article than, say, the usage of "run" to mean the duration of a play's performance at a particular theatre. Nicknack009 (talk) 11:36, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I already deleted it so this won't be needed anyway now.★Trekker (talk) 11:40, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you agree, but you haven't deleted the article, you've only blanked it. If it's to be deleted, it needs admin action. Hopefully that will follow and this can be closed. --Nicknack009 (talk) 11:46, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But I've deleted articles that I have made before by just blanking them since I was the creator. Why not now, why waste time?★Trekker (talk) 11:50, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:38, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Bhatt[edit]

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Promotional BLP largely written by the subject himself, who does not appear to meet to WP:NACTOR, WP:NAUTHOR or the WP:GNG. – Joe (talk) 11:16, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to HopStop. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:39, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chinedu Echeruo[edit]

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This existed as redirect for years and recently the independent article was created. I am not sure he passes WP:ENTREPRENEUR, so I am opening a discussion. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 11:12, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to CK Birla Group. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:38, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gmmco Ltd[edit]

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Subsidiary company. Seem to to be a target for continual promotion and advertising. Possible merge to main company. scope_creep (talk) 11:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 09:02, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Isidro A. T. Savillo[edit]

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Long and superficially impressive article, but I am struggling to see how he passes WP:NACADEMIC or WP:GNG. Edwardx (talk) 10:20, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep, His discoveries are novel and are attributed to him. Why don't we give him a chance rather than be swayed away of what other people of saying to harm his name. If the article needs an edit, then why not do it.Viperqwer (talk) 12:20, 10 July 2017 (UTC) Viperqwer (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Struck as a blocked sock of Lancet345. Black Kite (talk) 12:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As an addendum to the above I would also like to point out some of the deliberate attempts on this page to generate a false sense of notability. One of his influences links not to a Wikipedia article but a wikispecies article: https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Harrie_J._M._Sipman, and his book 'Yelwa-Yauri' is hyperlinked as though it had its own page but actually links to two separate and unrelated towns in Nigeria. If this person is notable why the need for deception? El Pharao (talk) 13:22, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is no deception here. H. Sipman is his mentor as DAAD scholar in FRG and Yelwa- Yauri is the title of his novel named after a place in Nigeria.112.198.69.77 (talk) 17:32, 11 July 2017 (UTC) [reply]
Keep He is scientist/researcher and a writer. What is wrong with that?112.198.69.77 (talk) 17:32, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:40, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ohga Tanaka[edit]

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Fails WP:NACTOR. DrStrauss talk 10:06, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy Delete. Procedural only: WP:G12 (of [www.furian.co.uk ]) deletion by User:Alexf. (non-admin closure)fortunavelut luna 14:42, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Furian[edit]

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No sources indicating notability - fails WP:MUSICBIO. DrStrauss talk 10:05, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Withdrawn by nominator with no further delete !votes. SoWhy 09:01, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rehan Sheikh[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Greenbörg (talk) 09:09, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Greenbörg:, please note most of the sources such as news articles only namechecking the subject. I couldn't find a single article in RS which discuss about him. --Saqib (talk) 17:40, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But I still think he had played major roles in notable TV series and also won award. We still can have a stub-class article with those sources. Greenbörg (talk) 07:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
why not. --Saqib (talk) 08:22, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:42, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

News Room[edit]

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A short-lived talk show which was eventually replaced by a newer program as per WP:TVSHOW. Not a single source so fails WP:GNG too. Greenbörg (talk) 08:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:44, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Presans[edit]

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Procedural re-nomination. The first AfD discussion was closed as speedy keep per lacking a valid rationale for deletion. Below is the nominator's updated rationale for deletion (diff). North America1000 08:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Struck duplicate !vote from nominator; the nomination is considered as your !vote. However, feel free to comment all you'd like. North America1000 22:05, 10 July 2017 (UTC) (See diff). North America1000 08:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Closing as no consensus, as no other participants have agreed with the nominator's notion of the article being promotional, and the most recent !vote simply states "Not notable, small-time pageant event", but does not address the sources that were presented in the discussion. Also, an event being "small-time" does not necessarily mean that a topic is non-notable as a default. North America1000 03:23, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Chinese (Vancouver) Pageant[edit]

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A WP:PROMO page on an unremarkable pageant. Article is full of trivia and is entirely self-cited. Significant RS coverage not found; what comes up is either local to Vancouver or PR-driven / trivial mentions. Proposing either a "Delete" or a "Redirect" to Miss Chinese International Pageant, for which the Vancouver event serves as a feeder pageant. K.e.coffman (talk) 16:48, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice on renominating. (non-admin closure) Nightfury 10:13, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Free Spirit (South African TV series)[edit]

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A television series that ran for 7 seasons would seem likely to be notable. But after doing some WP:BEFORE work, I am finding very little coverage of this television series, little enough that I'm wondering if it is in fact notable under WP:TVSHOW. So I'm bringing it before the community to have more eyes take a look at it. Thanks. --IJBall (contribstalk) 05:52, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 11:07, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Baer[edit]

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Highly promotional, blogger and definitely not encyclopedic notable personality. nothing significant has achieved. 1000 of such bloggers are there who just write a blog column in popular media channels. Light2021 (talk) 10:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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References

  1. ^ https://en-gb.facebook.com/help/196050490547892?helpref=faq_content
  2. ^ https://techcrunch.com/2013/05/29/facebook-unveils-verified-pages-and-profiles-takes-a-page-from-twitters-playbook/
  3. ^ Naslund, Jay Baer & Amber (2011). The now revolution : 7 shifts to make your business faster, smarter, and more social. Hoboken, N.J.: Wiley. ISBN 047092327X.
  4. ^ Baer, Jay (2013). Youtility : why smart marketing is about help not hype. New York, NY: Portfolio/penguin. ISBN 9781591846666.
  5. ^ Baer, Jay (March 1, 2016). Hug Your Haters : How to Embrace Complaints and Keep Your Customers. New York, NY: Portfolio/penguin. ISBN 1101980672.
  6. ^ "Press - Jay Baer Marketing and Customer Service Keynote Speaker -". Jay Baer Marketing and Customer Service Keynote Speaker.
    • Can you cite any in-depth coverage made by media not some press coverage or routine online writing ? Light2021 (talk) 19:48, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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All the mentioned coverage are articles published in general, nothing in-depth coverage found on single source from nay media.Light2021 (talk) 07:00, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  09:47, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nilkamal Plastics[edit]

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Obviously promotional article with major contributions for editors listed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Amitabhaitc DGG ( talk ) 19:47, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Regardless of whether KuwarOnline is a sockpuppet or meatpuppet (as of the time of this writing this account was mentioned in the investigation only today, by the same editor who has started the AFD. It did not come up in the checkuser, but of course that won't catch meatpuppetry, so the allegation may well be true, but is irrelevant) this article was revised significantly from their last draft, contains many reliable secondary sources supporting its claims, and is neutral in tone (with the possible exception of the @home section, that one could probably use some work). Nilkamal is, as far as I can tell, a notable furniture brand in India. I sense a degree of WP:GEOBIAS in the deletion of articles about Indian firms. After all, we have articles like these (Relicore and Resilio) about US firms that show absolutely no notability, yet an article about, per The Hindu (a reliable independent publication), the world's largest manufacturer of moulded furniture and Asia's largest processor of plastic moulded products is repeatedly challenged. --HighFlyingFish (talk) 23:44, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The nature of Indian news coverage in this field is the reason why so many articles on Indian companies get deleted. Just look at the article--it's an advertorial. They couldn't have done it more promotionally if they had written it themselves, instead of getting the newspaper to write it. Looking at the edit pattern, the sockpuppettry is utterly obvious and presumably represents paid editing. If the firm is notable, someone else will need to start an article. DGG ( talk ) 05:18, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If someone thinks page is suitable for discussion at AfD, I recommend that they nominate it for discussion at AfD.Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
agreed. But what I would really like to see is stronger article with sources where there is no possibility of a failure of independence in the sourcing. DGG ( talk ) 04:44, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Discussion here regarding a page move to retitle the article can continue on the article talk page if desired. North America1000 03:29, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mouhcine Fikri[edit]

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Routine coverage of the subject of an event which does not meet WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGEOluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 20:50, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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This seems a bit premature, since the effects of his death are still being debated. I googled his name on the 'google news' search function, and I limited the search period to the past two weeks. it came up with more than four pages of news articles published in the past 14 days, that referenced Mouhcine Fikri. Clearly he is a person of importance, though in this case because of the effects of this death and manner of dying. What is your evidence that 'duration of coverage' is not great enough, given that it is receiving coverage still today? Tsop (talk) 14:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
First off, the sources are WP:PRIMARYNEWS and I think the subject's death does not even meet WP:LASTING because it has not been critically analysed. His death is just one of the many reasons why protests (even before his death) have been held in the country per this [16]. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 16:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"His death is just one of the many reasons why protests (even before his death) have been held in the country per this." So to ascertain the relevance of this article we have to debate the reasons why people are protesting in Morocco? Absurd. Clearly his death is significant. In total there are more than 7,200 results when googling 'Mouhcine Fikri' on the Google News search function. Yes, some will be duplicates, but we are talking about a person whose name has been mentioned in more than 1,000 news articles. Where are people going to visit to learn information about this individual, if not on Wikipedia? Tsop (talk) 11:15, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You should note that passing mentions does not prove notability. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 15:49, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In three of the articles referenced in the article, Fikri is directly mentioned in the headline. These are clearly not 'passing mentions'. I would like an experienced administrator to weigh in on this matter, because I sense bias on your part - too many shifting explanations. Alternatively, can rename to Death of Mouhcine Fikri, and expand the article.

Strong Delete: In accordance with the statement of the nominator;Oluwa2Chainz, coverage of the subject fails to meet WP:PERSISTENCE Celestina007 (talk) 11:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Strong Keep This individual is notable for an event that occurred in 2016. Therefore it seems difficult to make an appeal to WP:PERSISTENCE. The entry itself notes: "[Persistence] may be difficult or impossible to determine shortly after the event occurs, as editors cannot know whether an event will receive further coverage or not. That an event occurred recently does not in itself make it non-notable." In addition, Mouhcine Fikri continues to be written about in news coverage. I believe this article could be moved to Death of Mouhcine Fikri in accordance with convention. Tsop (talk) 08:47, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but move to Death of Mouhcine Fikri. The Moroccan protests have been widely reported and described as being caused by his death. WP:EFFECT applies to this topic, in my opinion. Cjhard (talk) 02:33, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Barkat Ali Siddiqui[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Created by sockpuppet who long gone. Will be better to rewrite when he becomes notable. Greenbörg (talk) 08:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no press coverage in RS. doesn't meet WP:ACTORS. --Saqib (talk) 11:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

David Berguer[edit]

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non notable author. None of his books are in more than 20 worldcat libraries, and I cannot locate an significant reviews. DGG ( talk ) 08:10, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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All over by Christmas is in University of Oxford, Trinity College Library Dublin, National Library of Scotland.
The Friern Hospital story is in six major libraries including the above and the National Library of Medicine, Bethesda.
Under the Wires at Tally Ho is in twenty libraries!
British Library holdings of this author:
http://explore.bl.uk/BLVU1:LSCOP-ALL:BLL01016660842
http://explore.bl.uk/BLVU1:LSCOP-ALL:BLL01015664084
http://explore.bl.uk/BLVU1:LSCOP-ALL:BLL01016222183
Press coverage:
http://www.times-series.co.uk/leisure/books/10049434._Not_treated__but_not_ill_treated_/
http://www.times-series.co.uk/leisure/books/11107188.Barnet_in_the_Great_War/
His award is in Transactions of the London and Middlesex Archaeological Society, currently behind a paywall as too recent to be freely available. As the nomination appears to be based on an error, it would be gracious of @DGG: to now withdraw it. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:46, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Word (bookstore)[edit]

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Non-notable store. There's a fair number of references in the article, all of which fall into one of two categories: Dead links, or articles in sydneyanglicans.net, which isn't sufficient to meet WP:CORPDEPTH. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:23, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I did a bunch of searching on my own and failed to find anything useful. And, yes, you are correct that searching for word is a somewhat frustrating experience. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:07, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. SoWhy 08:49, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Mahaganapati Temple[edit]

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WP:Notability Vin09(talk) 08:29, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and redirect to Jammu and Kashmir (princely state)#Demographics. The consensus is clear that the content doesn't belong here in its current form, however there's also opinion that a redirect to the appropriate section in the princely state will be beneficial. At a later point in time, should anyone want the content to create an article that meets requirements, then this can be undeleted and draftified to serve as a starting point. —SpacemanSpiff 03:30, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1941 Census of Jammu and Kashmir[edit]

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While census reports may have some use in an article about a particular country or place, WP is not a directory for maintaining such reports as stand alone articles for each state in the world. 1901_Census_of_Delhi_District is a similar census report and if consensus here is to delete the 1941 report, the 1901 should also be deleted. Atsme📞📧 12:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes, good point, thank you. I've modified my statement above accordingly. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:25, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Stanley Aronowitz. There's good consensus here that a stand-alone bibliography is not justified. Opinion is divided whether this should be deleted outright or merged to the parent article.

Per WP:ATD, I'm going to give the nod to merge, but note that everybody who argued to merge, qualified that it should be a selective merge. I'll leave it to whoever does the merge to figure out what's worth merging and what's not, but the gist of this is that it should only be the most significant works. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:56, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stanley Aronowitz bibliography[edit]

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Article PRODded with reason " WP is not for posting lists of publications except of the most notable people (like Einstein). A short bibliography (with, say, 5 entries) with the most important selected works (as substantiated by independent sources) can be included in the article on this academic. All academics publish, but we don't need a completely list of publications for every one of them." Article dePRODded by creator who posted a long rationale on the talk page. I'll be interested to learn whether the community thinks that any person who passes WP:PROF (or WP:GNG for that matter) should have such a split-off bibliography article. I stand by my PROD, hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:08, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment We have thousands (if not tens of thousands) of articles on notable academics. All have publication lists of dozens of articles at a minimum, if they're nearing mid- or end-career, likely 100 or many more. Should we include on WP those publication lists of all those thousands of academics or leave that to the specialized databases that exist? --Randykitty (talk) 22:22, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I don't understand what is meant here by 'notability extending to all written works' and why this would have something to do with the overall notability warranting the existence of a separate bibliography WP article. Let's take for instance an example I raised in my original contention: Slavoj Žižek is an academic with his own bibliography WP article, and he has also published a great number of works, some of which have received acclaim in academic circles, some of which garnered wider acclaim and praise, and some of which have received neither. Yet, the relevance of Žižek's bibliography WP article has gone unchallenged so far (as far as I'm aware). The same set of conditions I've laid out above apply to Stanley, as well. But one not need limit oneself to the case of Žižek to see how 'notability not extending to all written works' should not rule out the existence of a bibliography WP article. Take for example the article Works of John Betjeman, a featured bibliography article. This article includes in the bibliography the text Lament for Moira McCavendish, a "Undated, but c. 1958–59; booklet, limited to 20 copies" - a work with likely limited notability given that it was limited to 20 copies; and yet, Betjeman's bibliography WP article is a featured article. Further, there is no such rule in the notability guidelines in the WikiProject Bibliographies that speaks at all of 'notability extending to all written works.' Also, the purpose of separate bibliography articles is not to promote certain scholars above and beyond others, but simply because the scholar in question has so many publications that they can't be contained in their eponymous WP article, so I feel like this point obfuscates the discussion at hand. Joeyvandernaald (talk) 19:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - What I am still confused about in the arguments for deletion thus far is Stanley's assumed lack of notability, and further its basis in a set of non-existent principles for notability of an individual warranting a bibliography. In Randykitty's original argument and, from what I think I understand in their point above, to allow for Stanley to have a separate WP bibliography article would somehow open the flood gates for anyone to create a bibliography article about any academic with an existing Wikipedia article. Setting to one side the fact that here are already actual notability guidelines on the Bibliography Wikiproject that are fairly clear in regards to this sort of question, it's being assumed that Stanley doesn't meet some set of notability guidelines appropriate for a bibliography that don't presently exist. Given the points raised by Shoessss above, what principles of notability are those in favor of deletion actually using in assessing Stanley? Why is it that, to those in favor of deletion, Stanley is just one of an anonymous group of "thousands (if not tens of thousands)" of other academics when Stanley has entered into and made meaningful contributions in numerous debates across a number of disciplines, had at least one retrospective conference dedicated to his work, and written many influential books? Further, to say that academics regularly publish over 100 articles, books, edited volumes, etc. is at best extremely likely to be discipline-dependent (also determined by gender, nationality, etc.) and at worst only hyperbole. Take for example, someone like Edward Said: in the article Edward Said bibliography, one can see that the listed works number less than 50 (if we believe this to be a faithful representation of his œuvre). Take as another example, the 2015 article by Kristoffer Rørstad and Dag W.Aksnes, who find that within the Norwegian Publication Database academics in the social sciences on average full professors are publishing 1.77 article equivalents per year; assuming that they continuously publish so robustly a thirty year career would yield sixty publications, with half of those examined publishing less, irrespective of the notability of said publications. Joeyvandernaald (talk) 19:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that's fair - certainly the mention of the Žižek pertains to this, but unfortunately it's not really dealing with the other points I raised. I still don't think that this disproves Stanley's notability, or shows that he is sufficiently lacking notability to warrant a deletion of his bibliography. Joeyvandernaald (talk) 22:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's been quite a bit of discussion about this so far, in regards to notability and what counts for notability. Even the first comment deals with this point. Please see above. Joeyvandernaald (talk) 22:58, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hey Rhododendrites, I think you're right - Wikipedia isn't someone's CV, and I've already pointed out that not every notable academic has a long list of publications; in fact, statistically it's quite rare. Setting aside the fact that these arguments are kind of going in a circle, which I've tried to address above, the "we typically only include major works and/or notable works in such bibliographies, which can live in the biography itself" also doesn't seem to be empirically true. I've already shown that both Edward Said and John Betjeman, two authors notable enough to warrant a bibliography article, have works in their bibliography that aren't contained in their main article. If we were to add another, one could take an author like Michel Foucault, who despite having numerous notable works doesn't actually have each of the works in his bibliography contained in his main article. Further, this again is not a guideline or qualification laid out by a relevant Wikiproject so far as I can see (please correct me if I'm wrong on this!) Joeyvandernaald (talk) 23:08, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Joeyvandernaald, you're wrong, Rhododendrites is correct. I don't think I've ever seen an academic who met our notability criteria, who didn't have at least fifty publications. A hundred is not exceptional. Publishing is what academics do. If those publications are noted, it's what makes them notable. Heck, most academics who are not notable have a list of at least 50 publications by the end of their career. But here's another statistical fact: Most publications, even from notable academics, are hardly ever cited. That's why we generally only list the 3-5 most important ones. As an aside, this discussion is not about the notability of Aronowitz (if needed, that discussion should be had at the talk page of his bio), it is about his bibliography. I'm pinging DGG, a retired academic librarian, to get his expert opinion on this issue. --Randykitty (talk) 07:17, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Randykitty - In response to what you're saying here, I'm still not clear on two things: how can one continue flatly claim something like "a hundred is not exceptional," especially in the face of me presenting evidence numerous times to the contrary? Same with claims about notability that aren't featured in the guidelines you've cited; the guidelines say clearly, "several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates" and yet there's no mention of a particular number (fifty or otherwise). Also, the guidelines are at best giving a bare minimum set of criteria; two of which I've presented above Stanley Aronowitz debatably meets. What's going on here? Second, I still don't understand how this isn't a debate about notability at least partially. If notability of an academic is a basic criteria for consideration of separate article for bibliography, and your initial contention was "WP is not for posting lists of publications except of the most notable people (like Einstein)," the question of notability has either been implicitly or explicitly brought into this several times. I'm afraid that this discussion has sort of devolved such that I'm raising questions and just being told 'no' rather than reasoned debate taking place. Joeyvandernaald (talk) 20:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nobody said that having a hundred highly cited articles was unexceptional. I said that 100 publications wasn't exceptional, not the same thing. And as has been explained multiple times here, it's not enough that an academic is notable to justify a split-off complete bibliography. Einstein and Darwin, sure. But not for the "average" notable academic. See DGG's comments. --Randykitty (talk) 20:18, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
For academics in a field where notability is attain by books, such as Aronowitz, we normally list all the books,. If there are many, we can separate the ones authored from the ones edited, which are usually a little less significant. I think it generally wrong to include book chapters and journal articles in these fields, for they are considered less important. We would almost never include books reviews and lectures. If the person is famous, which in general means people outside their field will know about them, we can be a little more expansive. For the very few who are world-famous possibly a separate article is justified.
None of this applies to people who are creative writers or artists or musicians or film-=makers, and the like. . There we follow the practice of their field and include everything significant, or in some cases everything, and if they are reasonably well-known, it may well take a separate article. Nowadays, such people often hold academic positions, but they should be judged by the creative work. (A few very rare people have had substantial creative and also academic careers.)
In this particular case, we have someone in a field dependent on books, and only the books should be included. He has written enough of them to make the notability very clear. All the other sections do not belong here. And I do not see the case for a separate article. DGG ( talk ) 08:46, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Delete, nac, SwisterTwister talk 06:08, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Barbato[edit]

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Poorly cited BLP article that leads to a wikia. Although I am familiar with Paul Barbato's work on YouTube, he probably fails to meet WP:N for now. Classicwiki (talk) (ping me please, I don't watch pages) 05:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:47, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2016 Air New Zealand incident[edit]

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Does not appear to be a notable aviation incident; the only coverage it received was the usual routine coverage. Has not appeared to have any long-term effects on the industry. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Finland. (non-admin closure) feminist 16:53, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Finnishness[edit]

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trivial word definition, no information and still stub after 9 years Volunteer1234 (talk) 04:36, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. SouthernNights (talk) 00:23, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John Arthur Bayley[edit]

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A biography of a person who does not meet WP:GNG or the more specific requirements of WP:SOLDIER, this article attempts to inherit notability from members of the regiment he served with.

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All in all, this is pretty routine, run-of-the-mill stuff for any army officer of the period. My WP:BEFORE searching confirms that there is none of the significant coverage in reliable, independent sources that the GNG requires. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:43, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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If that's only based on his one book, and that book passes the GNG, then there's a possibility for an article about the book - but there's no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources about him. Exemplo347 (talk) 01:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, before a misguided pile-on starts, let me point out that the GNG supersedes WP:SOLDIER, and the article is about the person, not his book. Exemplo347 (talk) 08:15, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • My position is based upon our deletion and editing policies which are superior to such guidelines. My !vote stands. Andrew D. (talk) 05:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, neither of those policies state that articles about subjects which meet none of Wikipedia's inclusion criteria should be kept just for the sake of it. Exemplo347 (talk) 08:12, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
A straw man can't bludgeon effectively. My !vote stands. Andrew D. (talk) 23:22, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry Peterkingiron - it's self-published. He published it himself, and any reprinting is simply the result of an on-demand reprinting service. And WP:AUTHOR doesn't support your assertion that it's better to have an article about the author rather than the book. Nothing you've said here is based on Wikipedia's policies.Exemplo347 (talk) 22:23, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
For God's sake, "self-published" in 1875 carried an entirely different significance than it does today. Poe self-published, as did William Morris, Lawrence Sterne, and Lord Dunsany. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 12:51, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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To be clear, I'm not saying that his self-published memoir is notable (I don't think it is), and I've stated my deletion rationale in the nomination above. Exemplo347 (talk) 12:59, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how a pamphlet he wrote himself is evidence that Bayley is recognized by their peers as an authoritative source on military matters/writing per WP:SOLDIER. Exemplo347 (talk) 18:32, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Something the subject himself wrote probably couldn't, but a review of the pamphlet usually can, and that is the evidence I'm presenting. Smmurphy(Talk) 19:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's immaterial anyway, the GNG supersedes WP:SOLDIER (even if we take a wild leap and say that somehow, a pamphlet review automatically means someone passes WP:SOLDIER) and there's no evidence of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. The bar isn't as low as everyone seems to think it is. Exemplo347 (talk) 20:41, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Well, I'm still waiting for someone to demonstrate how this passes WP:GNG. Exemplo347 (talk) 19:19, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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This is getting ridiculous now. How many more non-policy-based Keep !votes are we going to get? This is basically WP:ILIKEIT. As for the "well-verified" part - if the sources that don't meet WP:GNG were removed (which I should have done before starting this discussion really) there'd be no article. I hope that the person who closes this gives the correct level of weighting to any !vote that isn't based on WP:GNG. Exemplo347 (talk) 21:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Before renominating, consider merging/redirecting. SoWhy 08:53, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017 Intrust Super Premiership NSW[edit]

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Fails WP:SPORTSEVENT. - MrX 11:49, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If that's true, it seems to fail WP:NSEASON, not to mention WP:NOTSTATS (Excessive listings of unexplained statistics).- MrX 13:50, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - it would not fail based on season, and the stats angle would see it requiring context for the initiated, along with explanatory text for all, not deletion.Fleets (talk) 17:19, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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International media attention is a little more than requested, but hopefully should satisfy any lingering doubts.Fleets (talk) 11:38, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is a start but it is only really a mention of the competition. It would be a better reference for the player, Kato Ottio. I still think we need a lot more. Aoziwe (talk) 12:56, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you are of that opinion, then please do make the effort to improve the article, as it now has been shown to have sources available via easy searches and now is now a well written article.Fleets (talk) 08:39, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I would try to improve the article if I could find some, any, suitable sources. The article is currently 5 sentences and a couple of tables, one table which is a complete and exact duplicate of a table in Intrust Super Premiership NSW. It is not a well written article, but that is not a reason to delete it. The problem is the lack of independent reliable sources. At the moment I can not argue via WP:NEXIST. Two of the current references are the League's own "news", one is a club "news", and the fourth is an "industry" specific publication. The PNG reference you give above, while better than the first three in the current article, is about the player and only mentions this comp as one of several topics related to the player. If you can give me a list of appropriate references, I will be happy to use them to contribute to the article. Regards. Aoziwe (talk) 11:54, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a range of sources to the article and expanded it a bit. While I don't think any are a "silver bullet" source that I want to single out here, I think in combination they point towards notability via GNG. Part of the reason for the struggle to find sources is the competitions name change from "NSW Cup", which has not been universally adopted by all of the media. Mattlore (talk) 23:26, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Changing my opinion to weak keep. There is now probably sufficient WP:NEXIST to demonstrate GNG. While a lot of the new references are in-house, and another lot are very local publications, there is also a decent enough smattering of main stream independent sources. Thanks Mattlore. Aoziwe (talk) 12:41, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep in one form or another. Despite a long discussion, there is no consensus whether to keep as a stand-alone article or to merge it to TripAdvisor, but a merge proposal can and should be discussed at the talk page anyway.

Despite being often cited, none of the sections of WP:NOT mentioned (e.g. WP:NOTPROMO, WP:NOTGUIDE) actually prescribe deletion as the only way to handle such content. On the contrary, per WP:WHATISTOBEDONE, deletion is only one possible way to handle it, with editing to remove the problematic content (in line with WP:PRESERVE and WP:ATD) being mentioned first.

As for the WP:INDISCRIMINATE argument, that section of WP:NOT does not actually talk about some kind of coverage but instead talks about how content is presented here. I think what SwisterTwister means is the WP:SPIP section of WP:N, however, there is no consensus that his analysis of the sources is correct. SoWhy 08:52, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FlipKey[edit]

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Last AfD was deleted, and still we are here with this. Routine coverage, non notable startup. usual for promotion alone. Previously done A7/ G11. Deleted earlier and created again. Salt and Definite spam. Light2021 (talk) 20:27, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • FlipKey passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. There is enough information from the sources for a standalone article.

    Contrary to what editors say above, there is much negative material about FlipKey. Sources have information like:

    Given these terms, the Haggler would be reluctant to rent from FlipKey, which is owned by TripAdvisor. But what gives the Haggler real pause is that the Better Business Bureau currently gives the company an F rating, along with an average customer review of 1.01 out of five stars.

    And:

    Cons: Lodgings not inspected. A booking fee may be required. No concierge service.

    Cunard (talk) 01:08, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, the sole "criticism" would still actually violate the specific policy WP:Wikipedia is not a travel guide, since this isn't the place to host whatever the customer ratings were; the only best place for that is either the relevant travel agency or the company website. Also, not only given the other policies against the clear promotionalism, but this one criticism wouldn't be enough to outweigh it. SwisterTwister talk 03:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:48, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Making Evening and Night[edit]

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Non-notable. No coverage or reviews. Redirect if need be, which I would but the creator would just revert it. Jennica / talk 03:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  09:45, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of participants at the Second Extraordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops[edit]

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List of participants of a non-notable meeting that does not even have an article. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:21, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It IS a notable meeting, an article has not been made yet but i plan to make one. See the Third Extraordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops and its accompanying list of participants. Jgefd (talk) 16:44, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As of now, there is a page for the synod: Second Extraordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops Jgefd (talk) 17:17, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. No further discussion despite two relists SoWhy 08:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Collaborator (software)[edit]

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Contested prod. Non-notable product, failing WP:GNG Andyjsmith (talk) 19:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Power~enwiki. I have recently added an independent Analyst Note (source 3) for additional validation of Collaborator's notability. In addition, please view the "List of tools for code review" article on Wikipedia for an understanding of how Collaborator is the name of the software and SmartBear is the maintainer, therefore, I don't believe that merging the two articles would be beneficial. If you have any suggestions on how I can further update this page, please let me know. Thank you! Eugene450 (talk) 18:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. A redirect/merger can always be discussed on the talk page if required. SoWhy 08:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sunshine Coast University Hospital[edit]

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Local hospital servicing Sunshine Coast in Queensland, Fails WP:ORG, author may have a COI. Redirect to affiliated University of the Sunshine Coast was reverted. Atsme📞 📧 17:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • comment - let's not forget WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Local coverage is normal - there are thousands upon thousands of local hospitals and they don't all deserve a stand alone article because then you're getting into policy re: WP:NOT. There are probably far more local schools and hospitals around the world than anything else so please let's not make WP a directory listing of them all. To be included in the encyclopedia, they have achieved notability for something - not just because they are a hospital that got a write-up during construction. Notability is not temporary. Atsme📞📧 00:26, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. SoWhy 07:41, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Marta Felicitas Galedary[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG.Thee books in the sources covers a lot of persons/characters. That hardly makes them notable. No independent discussion about the subject. Winged Blades Godric 15:52, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Books/news about social-scapes frequently covers/discusses about the life of some selected individual people.The topic is notable but the subject is not!She along with several others have been profiled w.r.t to the subject in every news.That hardly makes all of them encycloepadic!Winged Blades Godric 06:41, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:49, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Show-Score[edit]

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Non notable, typical coverage, nothing significant. Just 2 sentence? Purpose is mere promotional in nature. Light2021 (talk) 03:51, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 07:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Haridas (director)[edit]

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Fails WP:BASIC notability. The sources cited are do not discuss the subject in any depth, and some do not appear to be reliable. I am unable to find other usable sources. - MrX 18:26, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:50, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

جرثومة المياه[edit]

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Seems to be entirely based on original research, lacks citations, and is generally not in WP:MOS. Classicwiki (talk) (ping me please, I don't watch pages) 03:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Vidya Bharati. (non-admin closure) feminist 16:52, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shishu Shiksha Samiti, Assam[edit]

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A trust that is not notable at all. Fails WP:GNG, has been tagged with refimprove for more than 18 months. —usernamekiran(talk) 10:46, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't Delete. There are five reliable sources:
  1. The Official Website of Shishu Shiksha Samiti,
  2. The Official Website of Vidya Bharati,
  3. News published in Assam Tribune,
  4. News published in Hindustan Times, and
  5. News published in Times of India. - দিব্য দত্ত (talk) 09:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@দিব্য দত্ত: hi. Kindly stay calm. It will not be deleted hastily. Before nominating for deletion, I searched online, but I couldnt find any reliable sources. Unfortunately only Assam tribune is a useful source here, as the first two are primary sources, and the other two make a passing reference. —usernamekiran(talk) 13:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Usernamekiran, I have added another source. Please search here. -দিব্য দত্ত (talk) 16:09, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:51, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The PRS Group, Inc.[edit]

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Fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Insufficient in-depth coverage in independent RS. Article is highly promotional with peacock language and external links (5 in the infobox alone). Google search turns up very little. MB 02:57, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Dark Sun. SoWhy 07:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Athas[edit]

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This doesn't establish notability. The "reception" consists two trivial lines from reviews that obviously put no particular emphasis on this topic. TTN (talk) 12:53, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Both are extremely trivial and provide no weight for the topic. The second is literally just a single mention without even a descriptor. Neither meet the threshold. TTN (talk) 20:10, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. WP:SOFTDELETE Ks0stm (TCGE) 00:52, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sturgeon Aquafarms[edit]

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Notability to justify the inclusion of this start-up company is not established by the poor sources in the page, nor – it would seem – by any others. Page created by a COI editor, apparently unambiguous promotion. Merely in passing, I note that we do not have a page on the Agroittica Lombarda, which really is a major producer in the sector (but even so, possibly still would not pass our notability threshhold). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:50, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 08:39, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Climeon[edit]

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Non-notable company. Sourcing available is either non-reliable sourcing in the form of blogs, press releases, or recycled press releases by trade publications. Delete per failing WP:N. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:36, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • In 2015 Viking Line installed a pilot Climeon Ocean for a test period.[6]
  • In 2016 Virgin Voyages announced a partnership with Climeon and the use of the Climeon Ocean on three of their cruise ships.[7]
  • In 2016 SSAB installed a Climeon system for a pilot run. The system is supposed to save 1 to 1.5 million kWh per year!
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The result was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ansh666 18:53, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notaker[edit]

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Per WP:COIN, non-notable music artist; sources do not meet WP:NMUSIC. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 18:01, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Withdrawn by nominator - There are now enough sources available to establish notability. Sources are given below. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 03:00, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Rae Sremmurd. (non-admin closure) feminist 16:49, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Slim Jxmmi[edit]

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I am nominating the following related pages because we may as well adjudicate both as this other has been referenced for redirect. Sorry for the inconvenience:
Slim Jxmmi discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Quis separabit? 15:14, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO (has not charted or won an award solo, is only part of one notable group). Chris Troutman (talk) 23:18, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Jax 0677: I hadn't noticed it. I came across this page via NPP. I wasn't looking for related pages. Dependent on the outcome here I'll look at that one, too. I don't want to add the discography to this as editors have already weighed in on only this biographical article. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Jax 0677 -- shouldn't the two be kept together? Quis separabit? 22:18, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ummm, how would one go about doing that? Quis separabit? 22:44, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Despite some sources provided, consensus is that those sources are insufficient to establish notability, mainly for the reasons pointed out at WP:SPIP. SoWhy 10:48, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Earlybird Venture Capital[edit]

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Mostly promotional in content and lacking in references and value. FockeWulf FW 190 (talk) 00:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I didn't even mention "corpdepth"—I'm talking general notability guideline. Those four articles (+ the listing of more) are all reliable, secondary sources with dedicated articles for the topic, more than sufficient for writing a detailed encyclopedia article that does justice to the topic without reaching into primary sources. If you want an acronym, WP:ORGCRITE is a virtual repeat of the general notability guideline. I don't know how you could argue that these citations lack "depth"—they are not passing mentions and each discusses the company's actions as the subject of the article. I am no longer watching this page—ping if you'd like a response czar 14:35, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Czar, maybe you misunderstood but you are ignoring the criteria for establishing notability for companies/organizations which specifically disqualifies certain types of articles such as ones that rely on material produced by the company or stories that rely on quotations from company officers. Once you exclude those types of articles for consideration from the list you produced, how many articles are left? The articles you have listed can be used to "flesh out" an article but only *after* the topic has passed the criteria for notability (which is the existence of a minimum of two references that pass the criteria for establishing notability). -- HighKing++ 12:02, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Trees for the forest? You're referring to a list of examples meant to exclude "trivial coverage": brief listings, barely repackaged PR, or anecdotes in a piece that has no depth. But these sources aren't trivial—they're reliable and substantial enough to write an article on the company's basic activities if I were so inclined (this is the essence of the GNG). czar 16:05, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The full opening description of WP:ORGIND states A primary test of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or its manufacturer, creator, or vendor) have actually considered the company, corporation, product or service notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial, non-routine works that focus upon it.. Trivial doesn't mean a "short" article, it refers to the amount of "consideration" the people who wrote the article have "independently" given to the subject. An article that simply regurgitates company-produced material without providing any analysis or "independent" thinking is indeed trivial (and intellectual drivel) and fails the criteria for notability. Using your own terminology, those article are indeed "barely repackaged PR". -- HighKing++ 13:24, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I'm sticking with WSJ, TechCrunch/VB, and The Next Web being as reliable as it gets in this department. I have no issues with their independence from the company or their editorial process in choosing what you consider "regurgitation". czar 16:25, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Two of the sources are actually simply rehashings of the company's own financial gains and 2 others are actually personally supplied interviews by an employee, that wouldn't be significant coverage if the company motivated it, regardless of publisher since GNG strongly says independent is key. SwisterTwister talk 20:17, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Earlybird hired LinkedIn co-founder Konstantin Guericke as a venture partner in 2012 to facilitate the global expansion of Earlybird’s portfolio companies!" (emphasis mine)
There's nothing to talk about -- it's not surprising, as I don't find the sources to meet WP:CORPDEPTH: there's no transformational analysis, just routine corporate news. Nothing stands out about this subject; hence the directory listing vibe.
Here's the relevant wording from CORPDEPTH:
  • "Deep coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond routine announcements and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about an organization."
We have a "very brief, incomplete stub" -- thus I still advocate deletion. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:56, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It would be easy to expand further from the sources—I only cleaned up what was once there. It's a VC firm. It's going to be dry. Not sure why "corpdepth" is coming up again, as the GNG trumps that. "corpdepth" is mainly to ensure that routine blurbs about a company don't become a case for notability. But we're talking dedicated articles from national sources. AfDs pass easily every day with far worse sourcing than the articles I linked. czar 05:18, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
GNG is not policy and has the exact same standing as CORPDEPTH and ORGIND. One does not "trump" the other. Also, CORPDEPTH makes it clear that "quotations from an organization's personnel as story sources" does not meet the criteria for notability. Finally, a reliable source can still be regarded as completely reliable by dutifully and accurately attributing every "fact" to company sources or company-produced material (which is what is happening here). A source that is "independent" from the topic company does not simply mean that the source is not owned by or affiliated in some way to the company - it means that what is being written is "intellectually independent". An article that doesn't deviate from company material or provide any independent opinions or views fails notability criteria. Similarly an article that relies on quotations/interviews with company officers fails notability criteria. Whereas, an article that uses material but goes on to express an independent opinion or commentary on what has been quoted would pass. -- HighKing++ 16:22, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GNG is not policy and has the exact same standing as CORPDEPTH and ORGIND

No, it actually doesn't. Look, it isn't productive to quote guidelines at someone who has already demonstrated an understanding and reasoned disagreement with your position, particularly on points of significant coverage. But in the interest of consensus, the more convincing argument would be that TechCrunch/VB should be thrown out as a source, which would leave too few sources with which to write an article. I don't necessarily agree with that position, especially relative to the rest of sourcing used on WP, but am sympathetic and could be swayed. I agree that these TC/VB pieces are mediocre cases of journalism, but I find your above, out-of-hand dismissal of all sources listed (including the WSJ's?) to be unreasonable. By comparison, almost all reliable video game journalism is dressed-up PR—even more so than these—but we keep articles all the time for having even less coverage than this AfD has, because notability only asks whether the source is reliable (sound editorial judgment, pedigree for accuracy) and not about its quality. So on principle, if TC/VB is going to be passable in AfDs ever, then it needs to be now, but if TC/VB is going to be a line in the sand for unacceptable quality and exclusion at AfD, then there needs to be a greater consensus so it can apply not only to this discussion. czar 17:34, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Czar The Village pump discussion argues that NSPORT is too inclusive of sources that would otherwise be excluded by GNG. That's pretty much the opposite of what I've said which is that all guidelines have equal footing when it comes to *excluding* sources. Just like the Village Pump discussion, if a reference is excluded because of one guideline, it can't then be argued to include it under another. The WSJ article is 1) a Blog, which is normally excluded since it is user-generated and not under any editorial control and 2) relies on quotations from the company or a company officer for information/facts. I'm not trying to change your mind - I'm happy if you have all the information and then decide how you want to !vote. If you can point me to some information or data in the WSJ article that isn't attributable to company-produced material, then perhaps the WSJ article is "intellectually independent" with independent substance and I'll have a rethink. -- HighKing++ 15:52, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Try the first bullet of that VP discussion: "There is clear consensus that no subject-specific notability guideline, including Notability (sports) is a replacement for or supercedes the General Notability Guideline." On your other point, business journalism is fundamentally based on reports from companies & their employees, unless every article you consider worthy at AfD has been the subject of investigative assignment. The WSJ report is based on an interview with a partner of the firm, showing that the WSJ deems the company worthy of extended coverage. I don't see why the WSJ needs to run a separate market analysis next to the article to prove that the report was worthy of publishing—they already exercised their editorial discretion by choosing what to publish. czar 17:07, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Czar, again with a strawman argument. Nowhere have I stated that CORPDEPTH or ORGIND "supercedes" GNG (or vice versa for that matter). They're complimentary and CORPDEPTH et al simply expands on GNG and provides additional explanation specific to interpreting sources to establish the notability of corporations. I acknowledge your point that a lot of business journalism is based on reports from companies and their employees but I disagree that those sources are acceptable for the purposes of establishing notability (and only that purpose - once notability has been established, those sources can be used to establish facts). There are many examples of articles that don't rely almost exclusively on company sources and information and these are acceptable. An article cannot be "independent of the subject" if all it does is repeat what a company or company officer/employee says without providing any analysis or comment on the quotes, which is the case for the sources provided for this topic. GNG also essentially states the same thing: "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent. and CORPDEPTH and ORGIND simply provides more in-depth explanations (for a reason). -- HighKing++ 19:32, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
??

Nowhere have I stated that CORPDEPTH or ORGIND "supercedes" GNG (or vice versa for that matter).

GNG is not policy and has the exact same standing as CORPDEPTH and ORGIND
— two responses earlier

And re: WSJ's source independence, I can't be any more clear or cogent on my disagreement, so I suggest either taking the impasse to a wider forum or dropping it. czar 19:56, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with this excellent analysis of WP:GNG, WP:CORPDEPTH, and the sources by Czar. That The Wall Street Journal chose to cover this firm strongly establishes notability.

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@SwisterTwister, on what basis is WSJ's Tech Europe "not one of their main stories ... part of their PR-founded business section"? czar 22:55, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Because the WSJ Europe blog actually says in a specified section down the page, that it services the businesses and the people who support those businesses, therefore it cannot be guaranteed as actually independent, whatever the publisher may be, since it's the contents that count and it's something we've always acknowledged in AfDs or else simply accepting any bare article would be WP:Must be notable. SwisterTwister talk 18:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@SwisterTwister, I don't see where it says that anywhere on the main or individual pages—do you have a quote? czar 20:39, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. SoWhy 07:28, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Marco Palladino[edit]

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A WP:PROMO page on an unremarkable entrepreneur; significant RS coverage not found. What comes up is trivial mentions, PR-driven or related to Mashape (which itself may not be notable). Created by Special:Contributions/Wolf5555 with no other contributions outside this topic. First AfD closed as no consensus due to low participation. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:51, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. SoWhy 07:24, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cornubia City[edit]

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Article about a construction project. Fails [{WP:GNG]]. - MrX 12:06, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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comment - I agree in part, Bejnar, but our job is not to "predict" what the current article could be/should be/would be, but rather what it is now. Quite simply it doesn't not pass GNG as a promotion piece. If the article creator wants to write a different article about the location itself per your comment that it should be completely rewritten, then whoever submitted it should start over from scratch going through our customary AfC process. Creating a new article from an article that fails GNG should not be the job of our volunteers. For the good of editor retention, and to protect the quality of WP articles and the integrity of the encyclopedia, we should be warding off promotional pieces and denying publication of those articles that clearly do not meet GNG rather than encouraging the practice by allowing them into mainspace with hopes they'll be rewritten. All that does is encourage more of the same. Atsme📞📧 16:07, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Atsme: Take a look at the revised lead. I do not believe that that reflects a promotional piece, and I found a fair number of independent sources, as well as reliable. albeit not independent, municipal sources. If you wish to delete the remainder of the article, or those portions that you perceive as "promotional" please do so. Writing the Wikipedia is a cooperative project. This passes GEOLAND. --Bejnar (talk) 04:38, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In addition see the policy at WP:ATD : If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page --Bejnar (talk) 06:41, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, the revisions made a difference, and with the completed residential development and school, it passes per WP:GEOLAND. However, I did just nominate the Cornubia Shopping Mall for AfD as it is a commercial promotion and part of the projected 30-year development project. Atsme📞📧11:14, 6 July 2017‎ (UTC)[reply]
I still see no evidence of notability. Others have cited WP:GEOLAND, but for a subdivision, the notability guideline defaults back to WP:GNG. I would want to see at least three independent sources that have written feature articles on the subject. So far we have a newsletter, and tech news/advertising website, and the developer's website.- MrX 11:14, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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comment - Hi, MrX - I found a description (government source) of the development which states: "eThekwini Municipality is the primary developer for the low-income and subsidized housing, as the development is a state initiative." [38] We'll be seeing more articles like this this one which should satisfy the citing of 3rd party independent sources. I did find some secondary sources like this article which is published by Business Media Mags which is a Times Media Portal. Colliers International thought it notable enough to feature it in their "Featured Industrial Developments" report, and there's also this article in Estate Living, "which communicates the value of residential community living in South Africa to a domestic and foreign market." There are other similar articles, so I'm of the mind that Cornubia "is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list" per GNG. I'm also thinking a name change to Cornubia Settlement Project (short for Cornubia Integrated Human Settlement) may be more appropriate than Cornubia City since it is not officially a city and the title is misleading. Atsme📞📧 16:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK Atsme, those additional sources do seem to move the needle toward keep.- MrX 17:43, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was already speedily deleted by User:Bbb23. Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Black Teenager[edit]

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Article doesn't show the significance of the black teenager as a sociological topic. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 00:56, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 07:23, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Richard A. Coyle[edit]

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Tagged for CSD, but was declined because he has worked on notable films. He is a prop maker who worked on movies/tv during the 80s and 90s, particularly with Star Trek movies and TV shows. The references used are his personal website, an IMDb link, and jobshadow.com which is a site for requesting to be interview to have information about yourself published. His website does provide a copy of an article from the Arizona Republic [39]. Unable to find any other coverage of him. Added BLP Primary sources tag, but no improvements in a week so now am nominating as doesn't pass WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER WikiVirusC(talk) 00:50, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:52, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

J. B. Rainsberger[edit]

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The subject is not sufficiently notable. A single published programming book is not sufficient (See the first criteria of WP:ACADEMIC, significant impact needs to be proven.) Also, The Gordon Pask Award mentioned in the article is not prestigious enough. It looks like the award is no longer being awarded as I couldn't find any mention post-2010 and it's website www.paskaward.org is not available. Finally, the few mentioned articles and his work as a consultant are obviously not enough to establish notability. Lmbro (talk) 22:02, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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