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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:16, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Diamond Cancer Foundation[edit]

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Non-notable charitable foundation. PepperBeast (talk) 17:11, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 20:57, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo Air Force[edit]

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Plain and simple, this is not a real organization. The vast majority of the references in this text are either 1.) unrelated to the subject of any military air assets in Kosovo, 2.) SELFPUB that make no direct mention of a "Kosovo Air Force" (and are apparently authored by the editor behind this article), or 3.) are citations to Wikipedia itself. Altogether, this might even qualify as a WP:HOAX. For this reason, I don't see it as a suitable merge/redirect candidate. ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:49, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It would make more sense to split off the entire "Equipment" section if the article became too large, but I'm not sure it's reached that point yet. - ZLEA T\C 15:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please give us an example of a reliable source that states that there is a branch of the KSF called the "Kosovo Air Force" or "Forca Ajrore e Kosoves"? Just one source will do. - ZLEA T\C 01:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no reliable sources given and the logo purportedly uploaded by the Defense Ministry appears to be a badly done MS Paint job. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 02:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 20:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Monsterland and Monster Island[edit]

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Can't seem to find any sources that really discuss this subject in depth beyond plot summaries of movies it appeared in. The article is currently very poorly sourced, and the situation doesn't seem like it can improve. Not sure on an ATD to this, given it's a very general location, and not really discussed on the series page. Pokelego999 (talk) 23:44, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of minor planets#Main index. as suggested by the nominator. Liz Read! Talk! 20:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

155142 Tenagra[edit]

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Fails WP:NASTRO; (re-)redirect to list   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  23:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri and MB: pinging contributors since last redirect.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  23:39, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure (2022–present). Liz Read! Talk! 21:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Novyi Korotych post office attack[edit]

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I wondering if this on it's own article is right. I would assume there is a better article to merge and redirect this too. However I am unsure, I simply don't feel this little bit (stub) need a separate article. The information should be added somewhere else, but I am unsure where. Maybe other participants can suggest a better venue for the content to be and redirected too, hence this nomination. Govvy (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, or merge into Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure (2022–present).  —Michael Z. 17:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Arms (video game). Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 21:05, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Min Min (character)[edit]

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This is one I had to look at deeply, but in all honesty it fails SIGCOV and notability. All the coverage is minor quotes and no real in-depth analysis or discussion outside of possibly Gavin Jasper's statement, and not much indication why Min-Min is any more important than another other character from ARMS, let alone notable as a fictional character.

Trying to find additional sources discussing the subject turned out fruitless also, outside of a lot of articles mentioning she exists. Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ADDENDUM: While there are additional sources in the previous AfD, I will argue that they don't offer enough, as they're isolated to gameplay of that particular Smash Bros. title and not really much even then.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:01, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • But those are due to being in Smash Bros, and are the same level of commentary any Smash Bros. character received. It doesn't display actual importance or commentary on her, especially when compared to Twintelle, who came from the same games but actively received analysis. It's refbombing with small quotes instead simply because she was in Smash.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    But not all the Smash characters received IGN reviews, not even all the DLC characters. Coverage pertaining to her appearance in Smash Ultimate does not and should not negate her notability. These sources pass what we look for in WP:GNG, that being significant coverage. If multiple in-depth articles for her isn't significant coverage, then I don't know what is. MoonJet (talk) 07:48, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. I'm not seeing a strong rebuttal to the provided sources. An individual is not required to pass topic-specific guidelines if they clear GNG. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bushra al-Tawil[edit]

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Nominating this page for deletion as it does not fall under WP:N guidelines, especially as a biography of a living person. None of the following information that the article presents is significanct to warrant an entire wikipedia article dedicated to this living person:

1. She is a journalist and human rights activist - her contributions to the field to do not satisfy WP:JOURNALIST.
2. Her father and husband are Hamas terrorists who have spent time in prison - neither are relevant to her notability as per WP:INVALIDBIO.
3. She has been arrested numerous times - The perpetrator of the crime is not a renowned national nor international figure, and the motive of her crimes (although poorly documented) is unlikely to be unusual. Therefore this is also not satisfactory under WP:CRIMINAL.

Given the article cannot establish her notability, I am suggesting that this article be deleted until (if) she does something noteworthy. Dazzling4 (talk) 19:39, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Nomination focuses on all the wrong things here. The notability for this biography is clearly based on WP:GNG and WP:SUSTAINED, rather than a particular vocation - news hits for the individual are prolific and span many years, as is plain from even a brief search. The nominator's POV language, "Hamas terrorists", and evident fixation on this page, having previously nominated the page for deletion when not EC (resulting in a procedural close), before diving right back into an AfD nomination after passing the 500/30 mark, do not inspire confidence here at all. Iskandar323 (talk) 04:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As you correctly pointed out, the previous nomination resulted in a procedural close. The validity of the AfD nomination did not play a role in its closure.
Please refrain from personal attacks by claiming I have some "fixation" on the page or disparaging my edit count. Dazzling4 (talk) 13:40, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I merely stated fact: you returned here immediately post-500 edits. And while the validity of your arguments may not have played a role in the previous close, your opening statement here is clearly not neutral, per MOS:TERRORIST, but leans on a POV. Are other editors meant to turn a blind eye to this? Iskandar323 (talk) 14:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How does this fact contribute to the discussion? My edit count and EC status are not relevant to Bushra al-Tawil's notability. Dazzling4 (talk) 14:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Use of "Hamas terrorist" is also irrelevant to this discussion since talk pages are not subject to NPOV. Not to mention that the source used to include her family in Bushra al-Tawil#Family describes Hamas as a "terror group." Dazzling4 (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Worth noting that this page currently exists in five languages on Wikipedia. The subject has a profile on Addameer in Arabic, and there is generally voluminous coverage in Arabic. Iskandar323 (talk) 05:58, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I also noticed that at the end of September 2023, Israel was holding 1,310 people in administrative detention, based on [2], so being detained seems to be relatively common. Marokwitz (talk) 21:10, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you explain how exactly are repeated arrests of a journalist, spaced over a course of more than 10 years, constitute only "one event"? We have multiple sources giving her WP:SIGCOV over a period of more than 10 years. And even if you're right, then isn't that cause to keep this article and move it to Arrests of Bushra al-Tawil? VR talk 04:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Her arrests are covered in Palestinian prisoners in Israel. But, other than being arrested and released multiple times, she doesn't seem much different from many other people. No evidence of notable journalism works; It is not clear what she was accused of, no details of her trial are presented. If she was a notable person, then surely reliable sources would cover such basic things? That's what 'significant coverage' requires. Marokwitz (talk) 14:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"It is not clear what she was accused of, no details of her trial are presented." - welcome to the Israeli justice system and the wonderful world of administrative detention. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
She had a trial in 2011 and was then sentenced again by a court in 2015, so there was at least some judicial process here . Marokwitz (talk) 15:06, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete She served in Israeli prison, is the daughter of a senior Hamas member... I don't see what else is notable... I do agree that its best she be merged into another article. How about the Palestinian prisoners in Israel ? Homerethegreat (talk) 10:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
She is already covered there. Marokwitz (talk) 08:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. I've ignored the potential sock puppetry and canvassing, but what's left is a growing opinion that there are sufficient sources to improve the article, and therefore it shouldn't be deleted. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Porter[edit]

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Unsourced biography that has been bouncing back and forth from a stub without sources to a redirect. Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. At best, return to a redirect to Sean Combs#Family and protect. Geoff | Who, me? 23:17, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single purpose accounts and IP addresses contributions prior to this being semi-protected to avoid disruption. Daniel (talk) 19:06, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the page. She is someone that was a celeb in her own rite and connected to a lot of celebrities. 104.136.7.126 (talk) 02:41, 22 November 2023 (UTC) 104.136.7.126 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
    I agree that Ms. Kim Porter's Wikipedia page should remain intact. Ms.Porter is a separate individual from Mr. Combs who is deserving in her own right to be remembered. Please do not redirect Ms. Porter's page to Mr. Combs. Nuqueendna (talk) 07:18, 22 November 2023 (UTC) — Nuqueendna (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]


  • Keep: The page is basic biographical information. Considering that the subject was with a celebrity and existed around celebrities, all of the sources are legitimate. The media sources are from mainstream media magazines.PushinUpdates (talk) 02:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC) — PushinUpdates (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
    • Keep: The page consists of legitimate biographical information regarding the celebrity. Different sources online prove it is legitimate. Looking up the individual, her information from Wikipedia is completely gone.
    Resources101 (talk) 03:06, 22 November 2023 (UTC) — Resources101 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Comment Resources101, do you know PushinUpdates? Or any other current or former editors? Just wondering how you both found this AFD discussion on your first day as an editor. Liz Read! Talk! 03:46, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You should be ashamed for trying to take down this page. She was not married to Sean Combs. The page should not be linked to Sean Combs. He did not treat her well and should not control what people know about this beautiful woman. Leave this site alone. 104.186.234.36 (talk) 05:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC) 104.186.234.36 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Just discuss the sources please, I don't care for the rest of it. Oaktree b (talk) 15:19, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please Don't Erase Kim Porter from Wiki. She is an important person loved by millions. It's hard enough knowing she's passed away. Please do not wipe away information about her and who she was.A Loving Mother, Model, Entrepreneur, daughter, sister and friend. Why are you even considering this, its hurtful. She's a shining example of love to the African American community and those who honor and love her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.188.252.70 (talk) 17:51, 22 November 2023 (UTC) 99.188.252.70 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete - That said, the Personal life section in the article does not confer any notability on Kim Porter. That leaves the Career section, and there's just no substance there to give her notability. All these instances of "appeared in" could be nothing more than small parts, or walk-ons. This just doesn't look notable to me. — Maile (talk) 03:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Maile66: Even setting aside the WP:NOTINHERIT argument, there's just no substance there isn't how notability is assessed: see my comment above, the Jet cover story and Source article in particular. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 16:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thanks for your input. — Maile (talk) 20:29, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Not seeing independent notability from these sources. JoelleJay (talk) 05:04, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT: Weak keep. The Jet magazine spread wasn't loading more than one page for me earlier, which made it seem much less comprehensive than it is. That said, I'm generally hesitant to attribute much weight to celebrity-oriented magazine stories that are based around interviews. JoelleJay (talk) 04:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The erasure of Kim's page will play into the narrative that Sean "Diddy" Combs is trying to cover up something nefarious. Let's not turn Wikipedia into a gossip rag. Her page should NOT be deleted as she's a significant figure in the world of Black American celebrities as both a model, a wife/girlfriend, and a mother to children who are now famous themselves. Also, per her status, sources will be media magazines and other smaller publications most likely, which tracks as non A-list ethnic celebrities generally aren't covered by mainstream media. — J (talk) 00:15, 26 November 2023 (EST) Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Chaoticdiva (talkcontribs) has been canvassed to this discussion.
  • Keep. She was a model for decades that turned into acting. Her death was covered by every major publication there is. If necessary it could be an actor/model stub but a complete deletion is not needed. Dam!ta (talk) 16:33, 26 November 2023 (UTC) Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Dam!ta (talkcontribs) has been canvassed to this discussion. [reply]
    I've not canvassed this discussion. I was shocked to see she would even be up for deletion. She's been on the cover or major magazines, an acting career, a notable model. Dam!ta (talk) 04:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    A three-month gap of editing to come back and immediately and only !vote here seems questionable. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Diddy, Kim Porter have been in the news a lot over the last few weeks. I'm not sure how that's questionable. 14:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC) Dam!ta (talk) 14:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tomar Khola Hawa[edit]

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WP:MILL coverage, no claim to notability. Sohom (talk) 20:34, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 02:41, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Spender[edit]

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WP:BLP of a fundraiser, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria. Apart from stating that he exists, the only other attempt at a notability claim here is notable relatives -- but notability is not inherited, so just being related to famous people isn't enough in and of itself. The only sourcing present here, however, is a staff profile on the self-published website of his own employer, which is not a notability-making source.
As I don't have solid access to archived British media coverage beyond what I could find in a simple Google search, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better access to such resources can find enough to salvage it -- but all I get on Google is more primary sources that aren't support for notability, and nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have more than just primary sources. Bearcat (talk) 01:18, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. A redirect discussion, if needed, can continue editorially. Star Mississippi 02:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Achdus[edit]

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An obscure and not notable political party that participated in two elections gaining no seats. Previous version incorrectly stated that it gained three seats in the parliament (which would imply notability), but according to well regarded biographical dictionary of Seimas members, it was another Jewish party that gained three seats. Source: Ragauskas, Aivas; Tamošaitis, Mindaugas, eds. (2007). Lietuvos Respublikos Seimų I (1922–1923), II (1923–1926), III (1926–1927), IV (1936–1940) narių biografinis žodynas. Didysis Lietuvos parlamentarų biografinis žodynas (in Lithuanian). Vol. 3. Vilniaus pedagoginis universitetas. ISBN 978-9955-20-345-2. Renata3 03:52, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, it seems that the party was notable, it was part of the parliament. 1922 Lithuanian parliamentary election article clearly says that the party had three MPs. Also later members of this party were on the list of the Minorities Electoral Bloc, so that's why it seems that Achdus didn't have any MPs in 1923 elections, but they had for example Isaak Holcberg. Marcelus (talk) 23:07, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcelus: Achdus did not have 3 seats in the Seimas. That is an error (since 2012!). I fixed one table but not the other. The 3 seats were actually another Jewish party (Zionist group For the Nation and Autonomy). Renata3 23:16, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Achdus still had their deputies, but as a part of largel minorities bloc Marcelus (talk) 08:51, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My Jealous God[edit]

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They existed, but I couldn't establish that they meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. Boleyn (talk) 22:38, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dingbat the Singing Cat[edit]

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A song with absolutely no notability that I can discern; the only sources online are simple lists of songs or lyric websites with no news, reviews, or anything similar out there that I can find. CoconutOctopus talk 22:30, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Had a look on Archive.org and found reviews from Down Beat, Cash Box, and Variety. Those three are plenty enough. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 00:09, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Four paragraphs of coverage in the "Sydney Diary" column in The Sun, so it got some mainstream attention as well as industry. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 00:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Texas Longhorns#Facilities. Liz Read! Talk! 21:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chaparral Ice[edit]

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It exists, but I couldn't establish that it meets WP:N, and I wasn't convinced on any particular merge/redirect target. Boleyn (talk) 21:10, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Let'srun (talk) 01:58, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Catholic–Gallaudet rivalry[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. This is not a notable rivalry. It's been a totally one-sided series between two lower-level programs in which Catholic has won 21 games to one game for Gallaudet. There are random passing references to a "rivalry" (e.g., here), but nothing in independent, reliable sources that deals with the series in depth -- and certainly no SIGCOV of a "rivalry". Cbl62 (talk) 20:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how wrestling, boxing, and bike racing rivals have any relevance here, and there are no stand-alone rivalry articles on those pairings in any event. But my contention is this: Competitiveness isn't determinative by itself, but it absolutely should be one of the factors we consider in deciding whether a series of college football games has risen to the level of a notable rivalry that is worthy of a stand-alone encyclopedia article. The depth of SIGCOV is, of course, the most important issue, but in close cases, other attributes may factor into the assessment as well, e.g, competitiveness, geographic proximity (schools with geographic proximity and especially bordering states more likely to generate animosity that makes for a notable rivalry), the existence of a rivalry trophy, frequency of competition (teams that face each other every year are more likely to be rivals). In this case, there is no in-depth coverage of this series as a rivalry, and the other factors support the conclusion that this is not a Wiki-notable rivalry. Cbl62 (talk) 22:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For example, the LSU Tigers and Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns have played each other 22 times dating back to 1902, and LSU has won all 22 matches, mostly by huge margins. See here. Despite the geographic proximity within football-crazed Louisiana, the one-sided nature of the series makes it hard for followers to develop a true rivalry. Cbl62 (talk) 23:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cbl62 - I would personally rank SIGCOV as the most important above all. The problem with competitiveness is results change (see Michigan-Ohio State where Michigan was undefeated early) and with proximity, you get situations like Notre Dame and USC, which are nowhere close to each other. I do also think rivalries in general are partly a media narrative than anything else.KatoKungLee (talk) 02:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, SIGCOV is the paramount touchstone. The other factors shed light in close cases. Cbl62 (talk) 02:26, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Brain Bowl (MIT–WPI)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG as lacking WP:SIGCOV in multilple, reliable, independent sources discussing this series in depth as a "rivalry". My WP:BEFORE search didn't find anything. Article has been tagged for lack of sourcing since 2018 with no improvement having been made. Cbl62 (talk) 20:39, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 21:05, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ri Hyong-jin[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 20:53, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Holy War (Merrimack–Holy Cross)[edit]

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Not a notable series. The teams have only played two games. There are other rivalries known as the Holy War (e.g. Holy War (Boston College–Notre Dame)), but this one is not notable. Cbl62 (talk) 20:18, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to MIDI beat clock. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 22:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pulses per quarter note[edit]

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WP:NOTE and could be reasonably covered under an appropriate article of broader topic Pdubs.94 (talk) 18:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the "Pulses per quarter note" article in Wikipedia needs to be expanded a little bit, in my opinion this page should not be deleted as it tells information about time division in midi files. 192.68.163.180 (talk) 17:45, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I've added citations to three books, two of which (Anderton and Rumsey) have enough information that they should be considered SIGCOV. I have some concerns that the main body of the article (the long 2nd paragraph discussing feel) is basically original research, whose ideas are supported by the texts but not really in those terms. That notwithstanding, there's sufficient mention of this concept to merit inclusion. Oblivy (talk) 00:35, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge so it seems there is value in having this content remain. Does it make sense to merge with MIDI beat clock or roll up into MIDI? Pdubs.94 (talk) 16:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge as article has been around since 2009 and barely squeaks by WP:SIZERULE guidelines. could easily be covered under MIDI beat clock Pdubs.94 (talk) 02:03, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with MIDI beat clock. Changing my vote. I've made the argument for keep but the merge target is really a good option.Oblivy (talk) 02:22, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Philip J. Williams[edit]

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I nominated this article for deletion because it lacks sufficient reliable sources that are independent and secondary in nature, which are necessary to verify the content and establish the subject's notability as per Wikipedia's guidelines. The article currently does not meet the Wikipedia's criteria for verifiability and notability. --Muchasz (talk) 17:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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10-Pin Bowling (video game)[edit]

The result was speedy keep. Withdrawing my nomination as sources were found. (non-admin closure)NegativeMP1 21:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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WP:N failure. I couldn't find any sources for it besides listings and the IGN review already in the article, and one review is not enough to satisfy notability. NegativeMP1 17:31, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Theatre Brook[edit]

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Tagged for notability since 2010. Fails the general and band-specific notability policies. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:14, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keith Tucker[edit]

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Tagged for notability since 2010. Greatest claim of notability is a song that charted; I not that makes the song notable, not the musician. Fails the general and musician-specific notability policies. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:08, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: If deleted, then Keith Tucker (footballer) should be moved into its place. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:09, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia–Kentucky football rivalry[edit]

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While I found a couple passing references to a "Georgia–Kentucky rivalry" on Newspapers.com, I don't believe this matchup has received sufficient sustained coverage to qualify as a rivalry worthy of a stand-alone article. Jweiss11 (talk) 16:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 07:02, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Latham Park[edit]

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No independent RS on the page. Nothing to suggest that the stadium has much notability outside of Newtown_A.F.C. but possibly could be merged as an AtD JMWt (talk) 16:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:44, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Babatunde Bayo Lawal[edit]

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A BEFORE gives me interviews from reliable sources thus failing the independent and in-depth coverage criteria needed to establish notability. Others are press releases. Nothing secondary or independent found. PS: Article was previously draftified by Jamiebuba. Reading Beans (talk) 16:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Leaning delete because most of the references are interviews which make the article fails WP:GNG. Ezra Cricket (talk) 18:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ephraim Heller[edit]

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An IP user claiming to be the article subject has requested deletion of this biography per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. According to the IP editor they have retired and "no longer want or need a profile". It was also recently blanked by a different IP. As nominator I am neutral unless I comment below. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Doctor Who: The Monthly Adventures#2000 as a viable AtD Star Mississippi 02:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Fearmonger[edit]

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I am nominating this article for not having significant coverage and failing to meet general notability guidelines. There is a lack of reliable sources for this article online, and it only contains an external link to the production company's website. List reference to this article is at Doctor Who: The Monthly Adventures. Torpedoi (talk) 16:00, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Land of the Dead. Star Mississippi 02:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Land of the Dead[edit]

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I am nominating this article for not having significant coverage and failing to meet general notability guidelines. There is a lack of reliable sources for this article online, and it only contains an external link to the production company's website. List reference to this article is at Doctor Who: The Monthly Adventures. Torpedoi (talk) 15:58, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Complex/Rational 17:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yair Lemos[edit]

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Very poorly sourced BLP with no signs of passing WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. Appears to have only had 90 minutes of play time in 2011/2012 in the second level of the Uruguayan football league system. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 21:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ariel Giles[edit]

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Unreferenced non-notable association football player bio. Article does not meet WP:SPORTSBASIC or WP:GNG and there does not appear to be WP:SIGCOV on the subject. Highest level of play was the second level of the Chilean system and third level of the Argentina system. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:43, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 21:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oscar Gualdoni[edit]

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Unreferenced non-notable association football player bio. Article does not meet WP:SPORTSBASIC or WP:GNG and there does not appear to be WP:SIGCOV on the subject. Highest level of success appears playtime at the second level of the Chilean system and third level of the Argentine system. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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University Heights (film)[edit]

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn as Cunard has located a number of reliable sources via Newspapers.com. Notability has been clearly demonstrated. (non-admin closure) Sock (tock talk) 15:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)‎[reply]


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The lone source for this article is a university news site that doesn't even mention the film by name. I entered various combinations of the film's name and year of release and found nothing on Google, Google Books, Google News, or Google News archives. The majority of results point to the cities of the same name. Given that there do not appear to be any reliable sources available that cover the film, this article clearly does not meet WP:NFO. Sock (tock talk) 15:29, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cunard: I stand corrected! I don't personally have access to Newspapers.com, and honestly I'm not sure I would've thought to check it even if I did. Thank you for informing me of an extremely helpful resource I'll need to look into in the future and for finding those sources. Given the clear demonstration of notability, I've withdrawn this nomination. Sock (tock talk) 15:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. It's snowing. ❄️ plicit 00:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Super Mario Wiki[edit]

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Repeated recreation of a non-notable topic, as proven from this Google search, this one, and this one (Further evidence of this at the article logs). Davest3r08 >:) (talk) 14:59, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Ice hockey at the 1998 Winter Olympics – Women's team rosters#China. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Liu Chunhua (ice hockey)[edit]

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stub on an unnotable sportsperson. sourced to a database. fails general notability guideline. ltbdl (talk) 14:52, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Withdrawing and collapsing comment. These sources are for a different person, Liu Hongmei. I was confused by this edit, which had incorrectly added "刘红梅" to the lead but had correctly added "刘春华" (Liu Hongmei) to the infobox. Cunard (talk) 11:18, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to List of Three Angels Broadcasting Network affiliates. plicit 14:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Tower Radio[edit]

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG as a network of radio stations due to a lack of significant, independent coverage. Let'srun (talk) 13:57, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CorpWatch[edit]

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No sources on the article, no sources from a search. However, it is frequently used as a source, see Newspapers.com for example. Would like to see what others think. Sungodtemple (talkcontribs) 13:57, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Charity Clarity[edit]

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Source review: 1 is forbes contributor, 3 and 6 are non-indpendent, 7 is probably unreliable, 5 does not have significant coverage. 4 and 2 written by Pratik Dattani, listed as a Huffington Post Contributor. A Google search doesn't provide any major sources. Sungodtemple (talkcontribs) 13:35, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to List of Marvel Comics characters: B. signed, Rosguill talk 20:02, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Burglar (character)[edit]

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Non-notable character. I couldn't find non-trivial mentions of this guy anywhere. Industrial Insect (talk) 12:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 18:53, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CESRA[edit]

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Bon courage (talk · contribs) prodded this with:

Reliant on itself for sourcing.

All current references are to CESRA or directory to conference proceedings linked to CESRA; I have not attempted to assess notability on my own. This doesn't mean that CESRA fails notability since WP:NEXIST, but deprodder Headbomb (talk · contribs) committed the WP:OLDSUBJECT fallacy: not a reason to delete, this is a 50+ y.o. professional associaton, obviously notable.

About 90% of this page was authored by page creator Sjyu1988 (talk · contribs), and the majority of edits by that user are to this article, with most of the rest being creations of redirects to towns and all remaining edits related to CESRA, including a deleted draft on the same topic, some non-free files, and these edits that got reverted. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 15:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Agreed - this is just enough to justify the article. I changed my vote accordingly.
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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Darren Clarke (snooker player)[edit]

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The only source currently in the article is a blacklisted one. My WP:BEFORE search of web and newspapers.com sources found lots of passing mentions of results and of a disciplinary incident in 1999, but nothing that I considered really contributed to notability. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:31, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Doctor Who: The Monthly Adventures as a viable ATD. Star Mississippi 02:45, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Twilight Kingdom[edit]

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No significant coverage in reliable sources. Does not meet the general notability guideline. Heavy Grasshopper (talk) 12:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Unless someone can show that this got independent coverage, it doesn't need its own article. Even if someone does, this can likely be included in the Doctor Who article under spin-offs or another appropriate section.Cortador (talk) 12:55, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:57, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chainsaws in popular culture[edit]

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Entirely WP:OR. It seems to fail WP:GNG as well. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 19:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There does seem to be some coverage about this topic, as seen in [[23]] and [[24]]. If this article is kept, it will need a major rewrite. Let'srun (talk) 20:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Doctor Who: The Monthly Adventures as a viable ATD Star Mississippi 02:45, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Creed of the Kromon[edit]

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Lack of SIGCOV for this Big Finish Doctor Who production. One can find Doctor Who fan blogs with reviews, but I don't see sigcov in reliable sources, and therefore this fails the GNG. Heavy Grasshopper (talk) 12:10, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 12:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Himanshu Singhal[edit]

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Article about a lesser-known entrepreneur, with routine/promotional sources cited as sources. Does not meet WP:GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 12:09, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Article author appears to be a prolific creator of these things. Fermiboson (talk) 11:41, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Noting that the subject of the previous AFD is different from this one. plicit 12:13, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

David McDonnell[edit]

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Currently unsourced BLP. I did not nominate for BLPPROD as there are sources that confirm the subject's existence, but my searches of the web and of newspapers.com did not identify any coverage that would help demonstrate that the subject meets WP:GNG. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:06, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Ace Attorney characters#Pearl Fey. plicit 12:18, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pearl Fey[edit]

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Besides the one Game Informer article, shown here, I am not convinced that Pearl Fey is notable and would have to agree with Kung Fu Man on this one. I'd suggest she be merged to the character list, but she is not sufficiently notable to merit a standalone article at this time and is only a minor character who pops up in select games, compared to Maya. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 11:26, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Gabriel & Dresden. plicit 12:19, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gabriel & Dresden (album)[edit]

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Unsure of the reliability of most of these sources (aside from the obvious unreliable ones like Discogs and the Amazon review), but they don't seem very promising. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:08, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 12:19, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Cross Drive, Canberra[edit]

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Had PROD removed. Fails WP:GEOROAD. TarnishedPathtalk 10:43, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kodi Medeiros[edit]

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Non-notable career Minor League baseball player. Nearly all sources are trivial mentions of transactions or statistics; Wikipedia is not a baseball fansite (where an article like this might belong). Anonymous Contributor 012786 (talk) 10:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was deleteand SALT. There is no need to draftify as there's an existing draft which can be improved and run through AfC. Star Mississippi 02:47, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Franco Lino[edit]

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It wasn't even a month after consensus at the last AfD discussion led to the article being draftified‎ that it got pushed back into mainspace. Still WP:TOOSOON. Still fails WP:GNG.

If the result of this discussion is a delete again, can I suggest that Draft:Franco Lino also be deleted in order to prevent a repeat of this behaviour. TarnishedPathtalk 10:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Nigel Marven#Filmography. Star Mississippi 02:49, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My Family & Other Turkeys with Nigel Marven[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. Unlikely that a 1 hour documentary on British TV meets the notability standards on en.wiki JMWt (talk) 10:23, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would gladly expand the article, if it is necessary. Blogorgonopsid (talk) 23.36, 22 November 2023 (GMT+1) — Preceding undated comment added 22:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please explain how you think it meets the GNG. JMWt (talk) 10:03, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hard Rock Cafe locations[edit]

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WP:NOTDIR, we are not the yellow pages or a travel directory. Fram (talk) 08:35, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. A discussion to move can be had outside of this deletion debate. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Myōjinyama[edit]

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It seems to exist, but I couldn't establish that it meets WP:GEOLAND, WP:GEONATURAL or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 08:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎: withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 05:59, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

山州[edit]

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This page has only one valid entry per MOS:DABRED and should be redirected to Yamashiro Province per WP:PRIMARYRED. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 08:42, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result was no consensus‎. No prejudice to an immediate re-nomination. Daniel (talk) 21:27, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sunny Ali[edit]

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Subject fails WP:GNG. References on the page and in a WP:BEFORE found nothing in-depth, fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA, or talk about his company. I did find this which isn't real flattering but still does not add up with others for notability. CNMall41 (talk) 06:15, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Goldsztajn:, it isn't about where the person is from, but where the publication is from. And, I think that section needs updating as it applies to other countries as well. Many publications listed in that guideline do not discriminate based on nationality as I have seen people from the United States with references from those publications. It all comes down to analysis of each source. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:39, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fully agree that online business media (among others) worldwide have problems of advertorialism and should be treated with healthy doses of skepticism; however, with NEWSORGINDIA I think best not to apply the specific circumstances that arose in one country to another. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So none of the sources used are useful then. We can't keep the article if that's the case. Oaktree b (talk) 16:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The effect of my statement is the need for specific source analysis, nothing more. In the absence of that, there's only assertions. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 19:38, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I do not see how the references were improved as none were added that I can see. Can you point out the specific references out of the "10" which are in-depth and do not fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA? I would be glad to have another look. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:57, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We are supposed to assume good faith unless there is clear evidence to the contrary. I am afraid we are risking getting stuck on WP:NEWSORGINDIA here and NOT show due respect to the thousands and thousands of legitimate newspapers both in India and Pakistan in business for many many decades!!! Let us leave it to the Wikipedia community to decide which sources are unreliable and can not be used as references on Wikipedia.
The above article already has 10 newspaper references that are considered 'reliable sources' per WP:PKRS. I ask the nominator to please take another look...Ngrewal1 (talk) 18:04, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It was already decided by the Wikipedia "which sources are unreliable and can not be used as references." This is why NEWSORGINDIA exists. It is something that was decided by WP:CONSENSUS. Also, no one said the references are not from "legitimate newspapers." That is not the purpose of NEWSORGINDIA. According to that guideline, we should be careful about blindly accepting references from legitimate newspapers and look deeper into each one. For example, The Express Tribune appears to be a reliable source ("legitimate newspapers" as you say). So we assume good faith (not blind faith) that the references from this publication are good. However, NEWSORGINDIA suggests looking deeper so while looking at this The Express Tribune reference used on the Wikipedia page for Sunny Ali, you can see that the byline is "Tech Desk" (not a staff writer which indicates it is regurgitation of a press release or paid content). An online search also shows this reference which is similar in tone (as if a press release) and marked as a "sponsored post" (also posted exactly one day apart). These are all signs that this particular reference from The Express Tribune is a sponsored post and should not be considered for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:04, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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For NEWSORGINDIA, I consider this to apply to the entire Indian subcontinent. As far as the sourcing, I would agree with your assessment of Rest of World piece you linked to being extensive and detailed and helps establish notability, assuming that publication is considered a reliable source. That would make a single source assuming other would agree with us. Here is an evaluation of the other sourcing on the page and unfortunately do not see anything in-depth that would allow for page cleanup. There is overlapping of sources as well. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1. The Express Tribune, While this shows a byline, the article is an interview. The article is about his advice to youth. There are only four sentences “about him” in the entire article.
2. The Express Tribune, Byline on this is “Tech Desk” which indicates either churnalism or paid media. It is also about the company where he is CEO, not about him.
3. Business Recorder, churnalism and about the company. Sunny Ali gives a quote but there is nothing about him in the reference.
4. Aurora, Interview with the subject. Simple Q&A with no depth about the subject. Cannot be used to establish notability.
5. Rest of World, A single sentence saying he runs a Facebook group that offers paid ecommerce training.
6. The Express Tribune, reference is churnalism or paid as it shows a byline of “Our Correspondent” which a deeper search reveals it is based on this press release.
7. Daily Times, link times out so I cannot view the source.
8. Associated Press of Pakistan, quote from the subject, not “about” the subject. Also churnalism as this is printed in a few other publications such as here and here.
9. PT Profit, more quotes and advise from Sunny Ali, but not “about” Sunny Ali.
10. Daily Times, link times out so I cannot access it, but based on the title and the other sources in this assessment, I am going to assume it is more quotes from the subject since the headline is not about him.
11. Phone World, subject isn’t even mentioned in this reference.
12. Nation, written by a business partner of Ali and is basically a glowing recommendation of Ali. Nothing I would consider independent.

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You can take your concerns to ANI if you feel I am in the wrong. However, you continue to assert as if I have a bias against Indian news publications which is not the case. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I cannot find a policy or guideline that says something is notable if it has 10 sources. Also, "extensive" is subjective. Reasoning was given above so feel free to refute it using policy-based reasoning. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:05, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Went back and took another good look at the article. Cleaned up and removed some promotional content. Sunny Ali and his company have received significant coverage in reliable sources from many major English-language newspapers of Pakistan which is the requirement for WP:GNG. All of the newspaper articles address Sunny Ali and his company directly and in detail which is the requirement for WP:SIGCOV...Ngrewal1 (talk) 02:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to David Range. Daniel (talk) 21:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hordern Gap[edit]

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Another place in uninhabited Antarctica which only exists on a map and is only referenced to a database/map. Not all geographical features on maps of Antarctica are notable. JMWt (talk) 11:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, the first is clearly unusable for notability. Otherwise every national report naming features anywhere in the world would be notable. Which is the same as saying every feature on every map produced by an official national body is notable. Which is ridiculous.
The second might be considered to be secondary and independent (laying aside the issue of whether there is "substantial" coverage on the pages noted above). But the fact that the territory is uninhabited and in dispute seems highly relevant - a source simply listing features on disputed land as determined by one party to the dispute would/should not be considered notable in my opinion.
Finally I think we have to seriously question the whole concept of notability and how it applies to the uninhabited continent. Other than in encyclopedic lists of names of features which seek for completeness, who has noted these minor features? Other than a handful of scientists, nobody. There are no books or newspaper articles or anything which cover these things in substantial depth because why would there be? JMWt (talk) 17:04, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Wikipedia may serve as a gazetteer, with lists of features, some of which have their own article. WP:GEONATURAL says an article may be suitable if there is information beyond statistics and coordinates: enough verifiable content for an encyclopedic article. The entries in Geographic Names of the Antarctic meet that definition. It is irrelevant whether anyone lives there, whether it is in disputed territory, and how mny people are interested in it. A crater on the moon may have an article if there is enough to be said about it. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:31, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Well that's all your opinion. I don't believe that the encyclopedia you cite meets the standard of substantial coverage - but even if it does, we need multiple sources - usually 3 WP:3REFS - which we simply don't have for an unimportant geographical feature on an uninhabited continent. The fact that one country in a territorial dispute has named multiple features doesn't give notability in itself, particularly when that naming has been roundly ignored by everyone else in every possible form of published media.
    Comparisons with the moon are interesting - because of course there are many named features on the moon. But there the features are a) very large and b) referred to repeatedly in many sources. The fact that they have been named and exist is not enough.
    Also: WP:NOTMIRROR "Wikipedia articles are not merely collections of: 3 Public domain or other source material such as entire books or source code, original historical documents, letters, laws, proclamations, and other source material that are useful only when presented with their original, unmodified wording." and WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE "To provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources. As explained in § Encyclopedic content above, merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia."
    JMWt (talk) 19:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    "Wikipedia may serve as a gazetteer" - a gazetteer is a geographical dictionary. WP:GEONATURAL on the other hand says explicitly that our goal is to write encyclopaedia articles, which are necessarily more in-depth than a mere gazetteer entry, or even list of gazetteer entries.
    "The entries in Geographic Names of the Antarctic meet that definition" - I disagree. The entries in that book are geographical dictionary entries, not encyclopaedic coverage, which is essentially a summary of what secondary sources have to say about a topic. Wikipedia is both not a dictionary and not a directory, but these listings of features would be essentially akin to dictionary/directory content.
    In other areas of Wikipedia (books, music, films, biographies etc.) we have not generally taken this kind of short-paragraph coverage as significant coverage of the topic. FOARP (talk) 20:43, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"WP:5P1 says Wikipedia is, among other things, a gazeteer. That is, special rules apply to geographical articles. The information on geographical items may be presented in container articles, perhaps in list form, or in stand-alone articles. The main consideration in choosing the format is how much reliable information is available. In this case, there is enough to warrant the stand-alone format. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:55, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm interested to know more about where this quote comes from because WP:5P1 says "Wikipedia combines many features of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers." - which isn't the same as what you quoted. JMWt (talk) 07:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it comes from the essay WP:GAZETTEER. Of course there is also the essay WP:NOTGAZETTEER, which says:
Wikipedia's Five Pillars, which is a non-binding summary of some of the guidelines and policies of Wikipedia, presently states that "Wikipedia combines many features of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers".
However, this should not be misunderstood as stating that Wikipedia IS a gazetteer. Wikipedia is very different from, for example, GNIS, or the National Land and Property Gazetteer, in that it does not simply include articles on every single place, populated or not, regardless of the notability of the location. Wikipedia policy specifically excludes that it should be a "indiscriminate collection of information", "dictionary", or a “directory”, which is what it would be if it simply included the kind of information that a classic gazetteer such GNIS does, since a gazetteer is ultimately a "geographical dictionary or directory used in conjunction with a map or atlas."
The idea that Wikipedia is a gazetteer is not something that has ever been confirmed by any consensus anywhere on Wikipedia. Every time it has been discussed no such conclusion has been reached. FOARP (talk) 12:17, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: the essay quoted above was written by the person who’s quoting it. As is clearly stated, it has not necessarily been vetted by the community. Djflem (talk) 16:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Which is great, because the essay that says the thing I'm responding to is equally also not vetted by the community. FOARP (talk) 21:26, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What’s great about presenting a block quote in green lettering when you’re quoting yourself? Djflem (talk) 19:12, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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FOARP Why not open an RFC to see what the community generally thinks about having articles on verifiable geo landmarks which are in dictionaries and encyclopedias. Nobody wants stubs, but I think you'll find that more people support them as article subjects than oppose. I fully agree with you on the concept of "inherent notability", I hate that term too, but the original objective of Wikipedia is the "sum of all human knowledge". We are worse off not having any mention of these features than we are having them, even as stubs. The issue that that we shouldn't really be copying from this resource, and the information is poorly presented in masses of different articles at an inconvenience to our readers. Merging the scraps of information we have to parent articles which cannot be disputed to be notable is the way to go. I would actually support a bot which nukes many of the Antarctica stubs and merges the information we have into readable prose in more notable parent articles which may be stubs or undeveloped too, but I know the community wouldn't support it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am planning open a RfC after the current AfDs have closed. Happy to cooperate with others here on the wording of a proposal and counter-proposal. JMWt (talk) 09:56, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"I think you'll find that more people support them as article subjects than oppose". As encyclopaedia article subjects, yes. Not as mere single-sentence entries, which are not encyclopaedia articles. FOARP (talk) 12:20, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A gazetteer often combines list and text format. An article like List of lakes in Foo County might have some general text on hydrography of the county followed by an alphabetic list giving name, coordinates, elevation and area. Some of the lake names would have links to articles giving more detail. In this case, the topic has too much verifiable detail to be stuffed into a list entry, which would look terrible on a phone. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This section should have been a level 4 header like the previous one, not a level 3, which is the header level of the entire AfD discussion. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 01:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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If a redirect points to an anchor in front of a section on the feature within the parent article, the effect is much the same as with a stand-alone article. The user enters the feature name and is taken to text that describes it. A benefit of the merge approach is that the user sees context and related features, and so is encouraged to browse. A drawback is that there may be more than one possible parent, so there may be a risk of forking.
Perhaps we should refer this to Wikipedia:WikiProject Antarctica, so we can get a consistent approach to these features. I would be inclined to say that:
1) If the feature is in Geographic Names of the Antarctic, it should have a section or article. If it is not in Geographic Names of the Antarctic, it probably does not belong.
2) If the available text would easily fit on a phone screen, and there are no obvious sources for expansion, it should be merged to a section in a parent.
3) the parent should be a mountain range if applicable, failing that a peninsula, failing that an archipelago, failing that an ice sheet ...
4) links from possible parents to the parent section that holds the text are encouraged, and will help avoid forking.
Aymatth2 (talk) 15:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My honest view is that locations in Antarctica, along with sub-sea formations (which includes rocks), belong in the same category as astronomical features (i.e., they are features that have never conceivably been inhabited that are highly unlikely to generate coverage and should not have any presumption of notability) and should be handled the same. I don't think there is any need to redirect them and we are kidding ourselves by thinking that people find these redirects useful, as well as greatly complicating the problem of cleaning up failing article by turning every AFD into a hunt for redirects/merges that are typically quite forced. FOARP (talk) 16:35, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am less anthropocentric. Inclusion of articles on people or their works must be subject to proof of notability, given the risk of abuse. Even with these, projects may define special criteria for politicians, athletes, populated places, and so on, allowing articles on topics that may not pass WP:GNG. With natural or scientific topics, there is far less risk of abuse, and projects often define special criteria such as WP:GEONATURAL. These topics may only be of interest to a limited audience, but there is plenty of room in Wikipedia. I suspect that more readers will be interested in natural features of Antarctica, which are associated with hardy explorers, than in articles on obscure beetles or minerals. Aymatth2 (talk) 18:03, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As we’ve noted above, these articles were rapidly created by importing a dataset. There is very little chance that anyone would find them interesting because we lack the data to say anything interesting about them. It’s hardly “anthropocentric” to say that some geographical entities lack sources and therefore lack notability. JMWt (talk) 19:37, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also I’d add to this that pretty much the only sources of the names of the features are a) expeditions b) a gazeteer of geographic names and c) national mapping agencies - then pretty much the only way that a reader on en.wiki would know to search for them would be if they’d already read those (most likely c) and have already seen 90-100% of all the information that exists and is likely to exist on en.wiki
Note that I accept that there are features in Antarctica where there is more to say, for example where there are research stations or big colonies of penguins. I’m only talking about the geological/geographical features where there is essentially nothing to say other than they exist and have been named. JMWt (talk) 19:34, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding this quote from Aymatth2 above “3) the parent should be a mountain range if applicable, failing that a peninsula, failing that an archipelago, failing that an ice sheet ...”
I submit that this makes no logical sense. Basically we are saying that on the page for Framnes Mountains which is a big range of mountains there’s this other range called the David Range (which is non-notable and we have little to say about it) and two of the non-notable peaks within that range are Mount Coates and Mount Hordern (nothing much to say about them) and between them is a gap, but that’s also not notable and we have little to say about it. We’d end up with fractal sections on the page of cascading non-notable unimportance right down to “and in this non-notable bay, around the corner of this non-notable headland lies a non-notable island. A couple of miles away is this non-notable rock.” JMWt (talk) 20:06, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:GEONATURAL is the relevant guideline for information on natural geographic features, not WP:GNG. This AfD discussion is not the place to propose changes to WP:GEONATURAL. We should be concerned only with compliance of Hordern Gap,and perhaps of similar articles, with that guideline.
That said, a parent article for WP:GEONATURAL purposes will often describe a significant feature that also passes WP:GNG. The proposed David Range merge target certainly does. The description of David Range can obviously give detail on sub-features that are not themselves notable in the WP:GNG sense. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:57, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, hence the need for a RfC. JMWt (talk) 15:10, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I pumped up David Range. It could use much more detail on climate, geology, exploration etc., but is now structured so it would be easy enough to merge in articles on the features. The more I read about this rich topic though, the more I feel it would be better to expand the feature articles, which mostly have plenty of sources for more material, and to leave the parent as a summary. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You may well be right about the individual features but redirects at least leave open the possibility for future expansion. Good work on David Range, especially the image showing where the features are in relation to each other. Rupples (talk) 02:42, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I suppose if a section on a feature gets too big, the redirect can easily be turned back into a stand alone article. Restarting an article that had previously been deleted would require more confidence.
The nearby Mawson Station is a busy year round research centre, and scientists often visit the David Range to study geology or glaciology, to service equipment, or just for recreation. So most of the features are well documented. But getting plain English out of scientific papers is far from easy. It could take time before the content is expanded. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:46, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. I see a consensus here to Keep this article, such as it is. If you are interested in converting this page to a Redirect, you can start a discussion on the article talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 05:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Terrisa Bukovinac[edit]

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Delete. There appear to be two claims to fame here. Running against Joe Biden and being the executive director of Democrats for Life. Candidates do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates per se — the notability test at WP:NPOL is holding a notable office, not just running for one. There is no evidence that Bukovinac's candidacy will meet any sort of historic record or ten year test. It's raised funds equal to the value of a half-decent used car. The second claim to notability would be as the executive director of Democrats for Life. I don't believe being the executive director of the organization itself warrants notability given their form 990 cited on Wikipedia gives them annual revenues in the 5 figure range which much like figures of major parties turned minor parties, does not meet GNG and warrant an article. Mpen320 (talk) 04:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Soft keep. She borderline meets WP:GNG but it's close. ~Politicdude (About me, talk, contribs) 19:17, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I believe she meets the criteria for notability. DocZach (talk) 02:50, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Discussion has gone stale, clear consensus to keep. (non-admin closure) Schminnte [talk to me] 18:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hunter Fejes[edit]

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Contested WP:PROD. As I noted there, non-notable ice hockey player who fails WP:NHOCKEY and WP:GNG. Several years in the minor leagues and lower-level European leagues with no individual awards are not enough for the new notability standards. Kaiser matias (talk) 04:32, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As the WP:NSPORT page you link to clearly states: "Please note that the failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted". Indeed, the rule that applies, as per WP:BASIC, is as follows: "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject."
Here is a list of a bunch of such sources, all easily Googlable:
I understand and appreciate the need to keep Wikipedia clear of pages about random people that are of interest only to a few readers. However, stretching the Wikipedia rules to an absurd extent to justify deleting a page covering one of the biggest current stars of the Slovak highest professional ice hockey league that has been covered by full page articles in national press seems like borderline vandalism to me. Why not contribute something of value instead? Newklear007 (talk) 14:58, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2017 IWBF Asia-Oceania Championships[edit]

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Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. This article relies almost entirely on associated (non-independent) sources). Our article on Wheelchair Basketball World Championship shows limited notability from outside the organization, itself, so I can't see notability of an individual season from an individual part of the world. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:40, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 06:26, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Imen Mchara[edit]

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The subject, a Tunisian women's footballer, has not received sufficient in-depth coverage and thus fails WP:GNG. The most I was able to find was this interview. Redirect to List of Tunisia women's international footballers. JTtheOG (talk) 04:48, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Monk (TV series). (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 04:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Emmy Clarke[edit]

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Delete. Emmy Clarke had two supporting roles in movies and was in three television shows, only one of which in a reccuring capacity. As an actress, she does not meet GNG. I also think a redirect to Monk (TV series) could be appropriate. Mpen320 (talk) 03:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A redirection to Monk (TV series) would be most appropriate. Her participation in the series has been her only relevant role. BrookTheHumming (talk) 14:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gymnastics at the Russian Championships – Women's individual all-around[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. Nothing to suggest a national championship is notable JMWt (talk) 22:39, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Gabriel & Dresden. plicit 03:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dangerous Power[edit]

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Prodded but got deprodded with the edit summary "relevant" (?). Should be absolutely uncontroversial given the lack of sources online and the fact that notability isn't inherited, but I have to start this discussion per WP policy so here we go. Anonymous 03:01, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect: found no additional coverage. Chart is a small one in the grand scheme of all of Billboard's coverage, so the number one placement doesn't mean as much as it may seem to. Gabriel & Dresden (album) would be the best target, but I suspect that's also non-notable and will be starting an AfD for it as well momentarily. If it does go down then redirect this to the band page instead. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:06, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 03:40, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Brandon Herrera[edit]

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Subject does not appear to be notable. Only one source in the article is to a reliable source publication, but it's labeled as "opinion/commentary" and it's all that I see through a search. Otherwise, it's mostly cited to his YouTube channel. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:32, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Graham (footballer, born 1997)[edit]

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Fails GNG with a lack of significant coverage. There is another Jordan Graham (ex Wolves/Birmingham) just to confuse matters while searching. Dougal18 (talk) 14:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per sources below which show notability. GiantSnowman 21:47, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 00:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Carol Baumgartner[edit]

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG as a beauty pageant contestant. Some non-RS coverage exists for her Miss Brazil USA victory but even if RS was available WP:BLP1E would apply. Let'srun (talk) 01:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: She does not meet the WP:GNG, lacks cover from credible sources. Micheal Kaluba (talk) 13:17, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 01:40, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Little Rock Indian School[edit]

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A search for sources only found routine coverage like a student winning an award. Nothing to meet WP:NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 00:56, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 01:34, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Runcorn Indians[edit]

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WP:NTEAM. A low-level club with no indication of notability. A few notable players have passed through, but as stated in WP:NTEAM: the notability of an athlete does not imply the notability of a team or club. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:36, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - agree with the lack of notability (many of the refs are primary, external links are dead, etc.) for the club rather than the players. Kazamzam (talk) 12:35, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. plicit 00:16, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Julie Zeilinger[edit]

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Non notable journalist who wrote a few minor articles in 2012-2014. GeorgeMisty (talk) 00:03, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

She's published two books. One is in it's third printing. 82.12.128.180 (talk) 15:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP as everyone is saying above. She's accomplished quite a lot and has published two books and multiple articles. The woman did a phenomenal interview with Gloria Steinem when she was a teenager! Not many people can say that! SammyCarmichael (talk) 15:44, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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