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Mike Harper (journalist)

Mike Harper (journalist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 22:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Lunathi Mdatyulwa

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 22:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 13:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2023 Mableton mayoral election

2023 Mableton mayoral election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Local election for a small suburb. It has not been covered by any media outside of the Atlanta metropolitan area, failing WP:GEOSCOPE and WP:GNG. Previous discussion was closed because it was still linked from the Main Page. SounderBruce 22:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep By number of sources alone and prominence of the election (first in 110 years after re-incorporation), I think it certainly does merit an article mention, and I'm not liking the 'still gonna nom this the exact moment after it drops off the main page' rationale at all, because it's obvious if it gets main page mention that we found it very notable based on that alone. Nate • (chatter) 23:02, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • The DYK process does not always produce articles that survive tests of notability, especially since there's only a handful of eyes who might see it before it makes the Main Page. All of the sources about the election itself are from the Atlanta metropolitan area, not a single one from the rest of Georgia let alone the country (note that the Yahoo sources are all reposted from local newspapers). SounderBruce 00:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep per above. Also it is not really small, the new city is much bigger than the previous unincorporated area and has a population of between 40-80 thousand people (see talk page discussion). Comparing it to similar sized cities (see this essay about "other stuff exists" arguments), there is the 2022 Bellevue mayoral election (64,000 people), 2022 Pensacola mayoral election (54,000), 2021 Hoboken mayoral election (60,000), 2021 North Miami mayoral election (60,000), 2021 Burlington mayoral election (44,000), 2012 Cheyenne mayoral election (65,000), 2020 Wilmington mayoral election (70,000), 2017 Lancaster, Pennsylvania, mayoral election (58,000), etc. Sahaib (talk) 23:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is an argument to avoid. Many of those articles should also be nominated for deletion or merged into listicles, as they have zero outside sources and certainly none that would cover the election's lasting impact. SounderBruce 00:14, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete and strongly - hyper local election with no lasting impact and only 6,113 votes being cast - even the voters for this municipality didn't care! Surprised this made it to the main page, we probably need to figure out what went wrong there. Fails WP:NOTNEWS. SportingFlyer T·C 23:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Karachi Football League

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 22:06, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete: Concur that it fails WP:GNG. Also a regular target of disruptive editing. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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• Redirect to Pakistani football league system as possible search term. GiantSnowman 13:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  This is a good WP:ATD. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Comment To be honest I am not sure I truly understand this nomination, there are lots of different sources for the league, databases, primary news sourcing, teams, sponsors, other stuff. Google had lots of different things for a 21 year period of history. So I am myth'ed by the nomination. I feel it is better to redirect points to this article. And the article could possibly be expanded on. Govvy (talk) 14:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Comment Also, why would you redirect an article that already has some sourcing to an article with no sourcing at all. I don't get that logic either. Govvy (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Leven distillery

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It doesn't seem like this distillery is independently notable, either delete or (preferably) redirect to Diageo. BuySomeApples (talk) 21:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Marthal

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• Delete Not found in the 2011 Indian Census, cannot find any sources demonstrating WP:NGEO. Tooncool64 (talk) 02:16, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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• Comment. Appears to be contiguous with Thittuvilai. May once have been a separate settlement, but may not be any more. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Thittuvilai is not officially a settlement, either. Uncle G (talk) 09:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Merge? You can find it on Google maps. It does seem to now be a neighbourhood of Thittuvilai. You can also spot most of the mentioned landmarks. Most of the article are things that are nearby, which is just as relevant to the larger town. - SimonP (talk) 19:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • It is not a neighbourhood of Thittuvilai. And Thittuvilai is not a town. Neither this article nor your merge target are a village or a town, and both articles are misleading. The town here is Boothapandi (also spelled Bhuthapandy and Boothapandy), which is a town panchayat of Kanyakumari district according to the Census of India. It is not a panchayat union of villages, but a single statutory town. The Census divides it into 15 wards. The nominator is quite right. This whole thing is some counter-factual, perhaps nostalgic, wishful thinking from 2007. Uncle G (talk) 09:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Thittuvilai is very obviously a distinct settlement and is recognised as such, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Per WP:GEOLAND, Thittuvilai very clearly qualifies for an article (as a "populated, legally recognized place") even if Marthal doesn't. We also have to remember that if these settlements were ever recognised in their history then they also qualify per GEOLAND; it doesn't just apply to the present day. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • Your statement is contradicted by the Census of India. It's authoritative. You are not, nor is your bare assertion supported by anything at all. The place where this is is Boothapandi, and it is divided into wards, not villages. There is no legal recognition for either of these claimed villages. Uncle G (talk) 01:35, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• leaning delete It appears that Marthal is a something, but at this point all of us appear to be just reading maps. Right now the only verifiable and non-trivial information in the article is the names of the two churches, which I can (if I believe it) get from GMaps, but while the river encircling the place provides a natural division, it doesn't mean the humans respected that. It could be part of Thittuvilai, or maybe not; it could be part of something larger. We need sourcing. Meanwhile, I could justifiably delete every line of the article for lack of same.

  More and more I'm finding WP:TNT to be the solution to articles like this. If someone comes along with decent sourcing that characterizes the place clearly, and recreates the article with citations, nobody is going to move to delete it. Mangoe (talk) 21:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I and the nominator are the only ones not reading maps, I think. I'm reading the Census of India, which I checked to check out the nominator's claim. And xe's right. The town where this supposed village is, that occupies the very space pointed to, and its 15 wards are on page 296 of that part of the Census, which covers Kanyakumari district. There are no villages inside town panchayats. There is no village of Thittuvilai. There is no village of Marthal. Here's another list of the 95 panchayat villages in Kanyakumari. No Thittuvilai nor Marthal there. The map-readers going on about legal recognition are looking at a place that is legally recognized as Boothapandi TP. Uncle G (talk) 01:35, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    There is a placed called "Thittuvilai" in Kanyakumari district. [1] The heading on [2] reads "Tamil Nadu Government Cooperative Department, Kanyakumari District, Name of the Society : Y.61 Thetuvilai Primary Agriculture Cooperative Credit Society, Beneficiaries Eligible for Tamil Nadu Government Loan Waiver Scheme 2021". Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Redirect/Merge to Thittuvilai. A settlement not being listed in the latest census is not per se a reason for deletion and does not necessarily imply a named settlement has no legal recognition at the date of the latest census nor in prior censuses. Because a settlement's local government is within a separately named place shouldn't be interpreted that the named settlement doesn't exist. Reliable maps can be used for verification, but not notability. Thittuvilai is the village used for this survey [3] and mentioned, if not more here:[4] and in many other books, so could likely pass the coverage requirements of the GNG. Haven't found anything of note on Marthal though and so may not pass the GNG or have presumed notability. For this reason a redirect/merge to the adjoining settlement of Thittuvilai may be the best solution — at least the name Marthal is included as part of the name for the churches etc so is a valid search term. Rupples (talk) 09:02, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Libya–Mauritania relations

Libya–Mauritania relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No sourcing, and no indication that sourcing exists establishing significant information about their relations but creator prefers mainspace so we're here. Star Mississippi 14:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• keep WP:BEFORE should have been used here "The minimum search expected is a normal Google search, a Google Books search, a Google News search, and a Google News archive search; Google Scholar is suggested for academic subjects." A simple Google search reveals widespread discussion about this relationship: in this book. this article, this article, this article, this article and many more.--User:Namiba 15:02, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• One leader visiting/helping a country does not speak to broader relations, which are not addressed in any sourcing that I found. I could have made my nom more clear but no indication that sourcing exists came from my BEFORE. Star Mississippi 15:16, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Here are two quotes from a scholarly article in 2001: "For example, when oil revenues started to fall in 1985, Libya expelled or laid off more than 100,000 foreign workers from Mali, Mauritania, and Nigeria." "For example, in November 1995, in response to Mauritania's decision to recognize Israel, Libya recalled its ambassador and announced that it was severing all economic assistance to the country and 'dispensing' with Mauritanian workers in Libya." ^[1] The content here clearly demonstrates extensive economic and political ties. =Executive-level state visits, high-profile payoffs, extraditing and harbouring leaders: this is the stuff of international relations, all of which are demonstrated in the previous sources you dismissed.--User:Namiba 15:32, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Any chance of this being added to the article? Geschichte (talk) 17:13, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep based on sources found by Namiba. LibStar (talk) 12:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete Sorry, but as the article currently stands, there's barely anything there and no assertion of notability. Little more than a dicdef. Thanks to Namiba for finding a few sources, but even if this info was incorporated into the article, all we would have is WP:SYN, in violation of WP:NOR. Until secondary sources have addressed this topic directly and in detail, we shouldn't have an article about it. Yilloslime (talk) 03:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What original research are you referring to? Incorporating information from sources is not original research. It is the basis of an encyclopedia.--User:Namiba 04:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Comment I have semi'ed this to stop the socking. If this is seen as too involved as Nom, feel free to revert me. Star Mississippi 19:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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GoTo (Israeli company)

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Unremarkable car hire business. TheLongTone (talk) 15:39, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• TheLongTone. Why would this company be unremarkable? Did you note that there are many RS in the references? gidonb (talk) 04:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep. "Notable" does not mean "Remarkable". The citations seem to indicate significant coverage by major reliable sources at a national scope over a significant duration of time, and it is a publicly traded company which is very likely to be notable, per WP:LISTED. Marokwitz (talk) 21:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep I don't understand the point behind this nomination. Raymond3023 (talk) 08:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep by NCORP and as a "remarkable" car hire business. gidonb (talk) 09:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete. Fails NCORP: An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability. Take out the primary sources and the listings and you're left with a few secondary sources, some of which are trivial mentions that seem to be little more than regurgitated press releases. Oh look, smiling people holding social media hashtag signs in front of their product... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:13, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep – Yeah, a creative marketing effort, but sources are there. TLA (talk) 04:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• keep The article was written by me. This is an article about an important public company traded on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. I have written other articles about companies as well Three were draftified - Draft:D-ID (company) - Draft:Perplexity.ai - Draft:Holmes Place - and now we're discussing the deletion of this one. I understand there may be concerns that I have a motive to promote certain companies. However I am contributing in good faith as an educator simply seeking to share knowledge on new technologies in my spare time. My goal is to continue writing more articles for Wikipedia when I can. I hope that through my sustained contributions it will become evident that my intentions are positive. to add value to this collaborative resource. Please know I aim to follow Wikipedia's guidelines and improve as a contributor. I believe this article and others I write have a place here.Galamore (talk) 09:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  The article does not look overly promotional in my view. In general, publicly traded companies are very likely to be notable per WP:LIST. Specifically I think that Holmes Place Group is a notable company (publicly traded, international business, 40+ year history), but you should remove the citations to youtube , instagram and the company website, and add citations for additional WP:RS that cover the company history in depth such as [5]. I'm also pinging @Ratnahastin: to add their thoughts. Marokwitz (talk) 09:57, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Note that Galamore's post here seems to have been written by a large language model. jp×g🗯️ 03:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  How can you tell? Marokwitz (talk) 09:24, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Delete: Spam article about a non-notable company written by an undisclosed paid editor. The coverage seems to consist of passing mentions in WP:MILL sources. jp×g🗯️ 03:22, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Note: After reviewing this user's contributions I have blocked them as an undisclosed paid editor. jp×g🗯️ 04:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Delete - the article is written in a highly promotional manner, and is based on the sourcing that looks like a lot of regurgitated press releases. If decent sourcing can be found, I guess this could be re-written from scratch, but as it stands notability has not been established and WP:TNT would apply. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep per TLA. Eladkarmel (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep per Marokwitz, TLA and others. S5A-0043^Talk 01:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete Most of the sources are in a language I don't speak, but they're clearly either based on company PR or routine finance coverage. Googling for sources hampered by a German company which also used to be known by the same name. Every revision of the article tainted by COI. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:18, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability and the sources I can find all rely on company PR. HighKing⁺⁺ 21:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep A company listed on a national stock exchange will have sufficient sourcing, which this article seems to have. Per WP:LISTED, "However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above." Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Putting the NYSE and the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange in the same class is somewhat of a stretch, I think. NYSE is two orders of magnitude larger. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:35, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Georgian campaign against the Eldiguzids

Georgian campaign against the Eldiguzids (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This article was created in October 2023 by CU blocked sockpuppet Nugoooo.[6] The original creation of the article dates back to 2018 by a blocked user named Georgiano, but it was deleted in 2020 due to various violations of core policies, including instances of copyright infringement, among other issues[7]-[8]

Following a hiatus of 3 years, the article now reappears on Wikipedia, under the watchful eye of another batch of WP:NOTHERE accounts and IPs. Subsequent edits to the article of significance are obvious IP socks linked to the original sockmaster, as well as new sockpuppets (such as user:Caucasian127). Strangely, the prevalence of sock and meatpuppetry did not suffice as a reason to accept the CSD 5 request.[9]

Similar to its previous iteration, the article is marred by violations of Wikipedia's policies on original research (WP:OR), as well as those on verifiability (WP:VER) and reliable sourcing (WP:RS). There is also a likelihood of copyright violations. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Comment can't this be speedied if it was created by a banned user?Oaktree b (talk) 00:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Dan-O

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Most statements in article are sourced to the author's website, another to an article that mentions him, and another to IMDB. Searching only turns up results for "Dan O Seasoning" and the General Hospital writer, Dan O'Connor. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 20:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Abdul Maroof Gullestani

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I wasn't able to find any evidence of WP:SPORTBASIC #5, which would be the minimum requirement. This included a search in his native language (عبدالمعروف گلستانی). The best that I could find was a single passing mention in Dawn. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:24, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 13:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

EnergyCS

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Fails WP:NCORP and the general notability guidelines. The only dedicated coverage this company ever received by reliable sources was about its 2011 acquisition by the now-defunct Coda Automotive. (NCORP specifically mentions acquisitions an example of trivial coverage). Other than that, the company received only passing mentions by news articles about the electric vehicle industry in the 2000s. Tserton (talk) 19:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Georgetown football, pre–1890

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Subject does not meet the WP:NSEASONS overall as these seasons lack the WP:SIGCOV and many of them are not even recognized by the school. Per WP:NOPAGE, this content can be trimmed down and be found at Georgetown football. Let'srun (talk) 19:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• What the hell... NSEASONS states that seasons can be grouped if lacking individual notability - I do, as an ATD for the 1881 season article (which you seem to really not like for some reason), this article on the first 16 years of Georgetown football - and within minutes of finishing you AFD it. I can add the next five seasons to this if it helps, but why are you now so much against merger articles when they're created by me, when you've done the exact same before for arguably less notable groupings (DelState)? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Let'srun: How many seasons do you think need to be added for this to be notable? Through 1894? Through 1900? More? I will tell you this, though: I oppose in the strongest possible terms a "trim-down to Georgetown football", as that would just either (a) result in a load of WP:UNDUE content or (b) result in near-total erasing the first 16 years of the team's history, which need to be mentioned somewhere at Wikipedia. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Keep, per Cbl62 and Jweiss. This is a valid split, something Let'srun has been supportive of in the past when others have done such actions (even doing it himself). Futhermore, his lack of a reply to my above comment (how many seasons would equal notability) while actively editing elsewhere indicates that this is simply an WP:IDONTLIKEIT nomination / nomination due to it being my work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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• Comment: I do not think WP:NOPAGE applies here as the nominator suggests, as Georgetown Hoyas football is not an appropriate WP:ATD for this type of merge. More reasonable would be expanding the scope of this page to 1894, as Category:Georgetown Hoyas football seasons indicates that was the last season prior to a rebranding. Curbon7 (talk) 22:06, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep. This is a legitimate combined article on the early years of a notable football program. Combining multiple years in this fashion is valid per WP:NSEASONS ("In cases in which the individual season notability is insufficient for an article, multiple seasons may be grouped together in a single article."). Debates as to which years should be included or excluded is a WP:CONTENTDISPUTE that should be discussed first at the article's talk page. However, such a disagreemen is not a proper basis IMO for taking the article to AfD within minutes of creation (and without any discussion or dispute resolution), as was done here. Cbl62 (talk) 00:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep per Cbl62. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Small Planet Airlines (Cambodia)

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Fails WP:NCORP. scope_creep^Talk 18:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Stuart N. Brotman

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The article was created by Gbrotman (talk · contribs) in 2009, so there is likely COI. The article is heavily promotional in tone, and lacks citations to reliable sources that would indicate a WP:GNG pass. Looking on scholar [10], I'm just not seeing enough citations to pass WP:PROF. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete. No pass of WP:Prof or WP:GNG. This extraordinarily bloated and vainglorious BLP needs immediate extirpation. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]
• Delete: Concur with the above. Fourteen days would have been too much for this pure vanity article. Fourteen years is just absurd. Ravenswing 16:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

BAA Training

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Fails WP:NCORP. Refs are routine business news and annoucements scope_creep^Talk 18:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Warren Franklin

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve this. Boleyn (talk) 15:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete - He's done cool projects, but there's no evidence of notability. Llajwa (talk) 21:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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English Jamaicans

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Renominating this per @Liz's advice.

This should be deleted OR redirected to British Jamaicans. What little info is on here is likely already in that article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:28, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete or possibly redirect. No good reason for this fork. JMWt (talk) 10:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Redirect to British Jamaicans – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 14:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete Too short and not enough reliable sources.

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• delete The redirect is a problem because, as it stands, the two phrases mean reversed things: one is about people in the UK, and the other is about people in Jamaica. They aren't claimed to be synonyms, so we shouldn't make a redirect that says they are. And this article really says nothing about people of English descent in Jamaica, so it needs to go. Mangoe (talk) 20:26, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Specialty Publications

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:N. Possibility of redirect to one of the magazines, but either might be chosen, and it is an ambiguous title. Boleyn (talk) 17:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Linwood, Iowa

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Converted to a redirect to a township article which does not mention this spot, I've restored it so it can be deleted properly this time. It's the same story as before: we have no information about the spot except it appeared on an old map, which isn't good enough. There is no reason to redirect to the township because the latter's article has nothing to say about the spot, which is, after all, because we don't know anything about it except the location of a name on an old map. We need to stop this lazy solution for making these redirects as they do next to nothing for the reader; we need to just admit that there's not enough information for an article and delete it. Mangoe (talk) 17:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• I'd rather pages may be redirected and links to them removed. I continue to appreciate your extensive efforts in tackling mass-created place articles, but there's not enough manpower to discuss each one of them. Even if not mentioned in the main article (sometimes perhaps it should be), leaving this record may be appropriate when there's at least some source on it, even if not enough for notability. Reywas92^Talk 19:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Redirects get AfDs closed because they satisfy the inclusionists, but the problem with these "redirect to the larger area" pages is that they are misleading. We shouldn't try to trap searches for places we cannot tell anything about: in this case, we don't even have evidence good enough to say that Linwood was a real place of any kind, as we've found far too many such dots on maps that were entirely spurious. And while it would be nice to delete these redirects directly, often enough the people in the redirect reviewing side force them to be pushed through AfD again anyway in order to get rid of them. I hate to "waste" time on this too, but if we didn't have these IMO bad AfD outcomes— or I could just stop caring about the matter at all, which is a state I keep getting driven to by the way some of these discussions go— less time would be wasted all around. Mangoe (talk) 20:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Redirect, as before. I've added a bit in the Summit Township article. Firsfron of Ronchester 21:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete I agree with Mangoe. We already know these post offices are sometimes not located in towns or populated areas. Presence of a post ≠ populated place. Sometimes the post office is just somewhere in the middle of nowhere central to several communities, and provides shelter along the postal route. The claim is that nobody can find any info about the location. I agree with that, and the claim we don't need to redirect this to the township. What's the point in redirecting it anyway?James.folsom (talk) 22:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete per nom..."shown on maps in 1905" is not the same thing as "unincorporated community", let alone notability per WP:GEOLAND. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 00:38, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Readers looking for the railway station that served the mine of the Linwood Stone & Cement Company, later the Dewey Portland Cement Company, at Linwood, Iowa, would likely be mis-served by a redirect for a barely documented post office in the wrong county. Of the two Linwoods, the railway station and mine is the one that is in the history books, such as William John Petersen's The Story of Iowa: The Progress of an American State (Lewis, 1952). This should be a redlink until someone writes about the one of the two Linwoods that we have more than 1 sentence ("a discontinued postoffice") about to go on. Uncle G (talk) 02:13, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Simon Apple

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:NBAND or WP:GNG, or find a good WP:ATD. Not on a major label, no significant success. Boleyn (talk) 16:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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List of races at the Nürburgring

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Do we need another list of winners when each articles about races taking place there have their own list, thus making this completely unnecessary. Unnecessary WP:FANCRUFT list that is only good for the most obsessive motorsport fans, also WP:LC and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete Yes, looking like a fancruft. Azuredivay (talk) 05:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2005 UAAP Women's Volleyball

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Draftify unsourced article previously deleted. No text, violation of WP:NOTDATABASE at WP:What Wikipedia is not. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 16:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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List of Participated Countries Statistics in Mister International

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Fails WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NLIST, these statistics don't seem to have been the subject of much if any attention Fram (talk) 14:45, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete: agree that this is a lot of detailed stats for a beauty pageant, or any competition. To justify a table like this we'd need sources that discuss the numbers in detail, not just the winners.

Also note the same table appearing at Mister International. Could be deleted from there too, along with a few other tables. Are the raw stats the only available material about this topic from reliable sources? Wizmut (talk) 18:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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1904 Toledo Athletic Association football team

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG or WP:NSEASONS because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 14:54, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete per nom. No SIGCOV. Only references are routine coverage/game reports. Frank Anchor 17:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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• Delete. This was created as part of a campaign by User:Murphanian777 to create articles on every opponent of Notre Dame. The only SIGCOV cited in the article focuses on the Notre Dame team with only passing reference to the TAA team. Notability is not inherited by virtue of having played a game against Notre Dame. Moreover there is zero SIGCOV about any of TAA's other games or any other aspect of its season. Cbl62 (talk) 01:33, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ali Akbar Ghelich

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Fails WP:GNG/WP:NSINGER. No indication of notability or coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources to denote notability. nearlyevil665 14:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Comment. This person is not only because of his activities in the field of music, but also as the presenter of a program on Iranian television that was simultaneously broadcast on two national channel 2 [11] and Nasim TV [12], and was also welcomed. It can help to find more comprehensive information on the Internet. In addition, his program was not segmented and had 30 episodes and was a complete television program. And in Iran, he seems to be one of the popular presenters.Google Trends Search -- Meyboad (talk) 15:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Tuko.co.ke

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All the sources are very base: Business exists, business does business things. No notability. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:34, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep because this project has dozens of sources which are recognizable and noteworthy. Obviously has made significant contributions in its home country. International and regional notability is still notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathantx (talk • contribs) 15:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Please list WP:THREE sources (and no more) that pass WP:SIRS. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Bhoj Raj Seth

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Selected publications are not indicative of an acceptable margin of h-index, fellowships do not seem to qualify under C3 of WP:NACADEMIC. Additionally, there is a discrepancy regarding the Eular Medal; it is claimed to have been awarded in 1958, but records suggest that it did not exist until 1993. nearlyevil665 14:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep: Analyzing Wikipedia:Notability (academics);

1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.
2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level. Sources which were written by scholars addressed he won the Leonhard Euler Gold Medal in 1958.
3. The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers or Honorary Fellow of the Institute of Physics). He was elected as a Fellow of Indian National Science Academy as well as Indian Academy of Sciences (1936) with well relaible sources. (See here)
4. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions: The subject was the pioneer vice chancellor of Dibrugarh University, a public university in 1966 which already qualifies notability.
5. The person has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon. According to the article, He was a professor of Engineering whose life spanned through mathematics and added impact to science. The article states; Seth was a lecturer of applied mathematics who taught in IIT Kharagpur and was considered a notable impact to that field in the 20th century (see it here
6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society. Already a Pioneer vice chancellor!
7. The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.Already had publications on notable academic papers and books. Search Google and books to see more of his books, that's why the article bears, Selected publications. (See here)
8. The person has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area. The article again goes; He was the editor of Journal of Science and Engineering Research of the Indian Institute of Technology with a verifiable source. Otuọcha (talk) 14:51, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Comment. If we can indeed establish from a reliable source that he won the Leonhard Euler Gold Medal, would indeed satisfy C2. I am unclear what a "pioneer vice chancellor" is but if this is equivalent to being the president of a university, it would meet C6 as well. If this can be clarified by someone, it would be appreciated. Unfortunately I disagree with Otuọcha about his meeting the other criteria (for example the Journal of Science and Engineering Research of the Indian Institute of Technology is probably not a "major, well-established academic journal") but it would not matter, since meeting only one criterion of WP:NPROF is sufficient. Qflib (talk) 20:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  In retrospect, subject may indeed meet C3 if he is a fellow of the Indian Academy of Sciences. Qflib (talk) 20:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Yes, Vice Chancellor is equivalent to President. He's not in the right field for the ICA Euler medal that the article links to; this INSA obit says it was the Euler medal of the USSR Academy of Sciences (and he wasn't the only recipient of it that year, at least). Adam Sampson (talk) 01:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  I strongly believe C6 already passed him since it was correctly sources. For the award, was backed also with a reference from Google books, it obviously needs additional back up but from the website of a notable science academy, it was clearly written, so it's is reliable source. More researches need to be made on that award in general, cause I am seeing it went on defunct after the 1957 award till after ten years, could that be correct? Otuọcha (talk) 06:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  But a journal or publication of a National society is also notable.... Otuọcha (talk) 06:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Her Royal Harness

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Fails WP:GNG. Could not find significant coverage in English language sources and I doubt any exists in Norwegian ones either. Keivan.f^Talk 09:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Comment. 6 hits in Norwegian. They are actual reviews, but woefully few. Geschichte (talk) 11:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Any "significant" coverage in sources though? Maybe even the Norwegian ones? Because if none exists then it does not meet the notability criteria. Keivan.f^Talk 22:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Angola–Peru relations

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Article based on a number of primary sources. The relations lack elements that typically make notable relations such as embassies, state visits, significant trade or migration. The one bilateral agreement is extremely minor. LibStar (talk) 12:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete, no embassies and the rest is a collection of info from here and there, failing WP:SYNTH. Geschichte (talk) 19:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete Not seeing anything that makes this relationship notable. Yilloslime (talk) 16:32, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fresh (company)

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I didn't find reliable sources per WPNCORP. Crunchbase and moslty similar websites only. Ne (00) olli (talk) 13:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Redirect to LVMH (its parent company) – there are a few sources on Fresh itself, but mostly passing mentions or very short pieces [13] or fluff pieces [14]. Tserton (talk) 20:17, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Keep - The existing article, though lacking extensive references, provides a foundational framework for future expansion. Also, while "reliable" sources might be scarce due to the company's newness, online sources like news articles, social media trends, and industry analyses demonstrate Fresh's rapid rise to prominence. Ignoring the most recent changes and additional citations, as the company matures and traditional sources emerge, the article can be enriched and substantiated, becoming a valuable resource for researchers and the general public. Deleting the Fresh page would be premature and detrimental to Wikipedia's comprehensiveness.ToranL7231 (talk) 20:47, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech Bureau

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Not meeting WPNCORP, only 3 sources with routine coverage of stolen money case. Not in-depth, not reliable independent. Ne (00) olli (talk) 13:26, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Cazals (band)

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve this. Boleyn (talk) 08:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep per reviews in Spin (magazine) (rather short), Allmusic.com (rather short) as well as [15] Time Off, [16] DIY (magazine), [17] Drowned in Sound, Spectrum Culture as well as the sigcov intro to this interview in Dazed (magazine). Geschichte (talk) 19:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete - thanks to Geschichte for finding these reviews but they basically just register that an album was released, or else they say the music is bad. One ([18])begins "Oh. Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear." This was a band who released a record but did not attain notability. Llajwa (talk) 21:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• A band doesn't have to be good to be notable Geschichte (talk) 21:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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The Heart Beats

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:NBAND or WP:GNG, or find a good WP:ATD. It metions Happening 68, a show they apparently won, but the link is a redirect elsewhere, it isn't a notable show. Very promotional article too. Boleyn (talk) 12:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Philippa Hall

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG, or find a good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 12:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• No comment on the notability, but for others researching this, it seems she presented a television show, Farmers Apprentice, run by Farmers Weekly starting in 2015. See these pages from the Farmers Weekly website [19][20], as well as these articles she penned for The Daily Telegraph [21][22][23]. Best, Bridget (talk) 15:45, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

HMF Engineering

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:ORG or WP:GNG, or find a good WP:ATD. Previous AfD was withdrawn just because there was an issue with so many open AfD discussions and the system being a bit overloaded; it is no reflection either way on the notability of this article. Boleyn (talk) 12:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Jeff Dieschburg

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I am failing to find indication that this painter meets WP:NARTIST nor WP:GNG. The coverage is not significant, and mostly what he is known for is a case of possible plagiarization of another artist's work on social media. I'm not finding a track record of notable exhibitions, reviews or permanent collections in notable museums that we would normally find. Perhaps it is TOOSOON. Netherzone (talk) 02:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Dieschburg is pretty known in Luxembourg for his skills in oil painting, a craft that he honed since being a little child (shown in a news coverage available on Youtube). It drew attention fast and a quarrel, often in public, between him and contemporary and avant-garde artists started.

His works featured in newspapers, publications, and catalogues. The whole copyright law case only came later and went viral in social media because of misinformation, racism and sexism allegations against the painter, regarding his work Turandot. The enormous amount of hate he received led him to close his social media (as stated by RTL). It is true that most Internet searches point to the court case, however he won it.

I think the page about him contains good information and I don´t see why it should be deleted. He is young, the page will probably grow within the next years. JdAlembert (talk) 11:33, 18 January 2024 (UTC) — JdAlembert (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Reply[reply]

• Delete The article's references are largely trivial mentions, often one or two sentences[24] or even less,[25] with at least one reference that doesn't even include this person's name a single time.[26] Despite unsupported claims like "pretty known in Luxembourg" and "vastly discussed in social media," there is no sign that a single event of an art student getting caught copying from other's work is an event of encyclopedic notability, let alone one that would make the student themself meet the notability guidelines of WP:NARTIST or WP:GNG. Elspea756 (talk) 15:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep: There's coverage of the copyright case [27], [28], appears to have some lasting effect. Oaktree b (talk) 15:42, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Comment: Article also contains a copyvio of one of his paintings, perhaps ironically. Oaktree b (talk) 15:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep: Dieschburg is a known artist in Luxembourg because he is the only one in the country who really wants to paint like the masters from centuries ago. He is still very young and his art undeniably draws attention ^[1]. As someone already pointed out, he is not appreciated by everyone, especially the more contemporary school of thought in art reject him. However that is no reason to ignore him. There absolutely is information around him, not only in the context of the copyright case (that he won). The Luxembourgish Doctor of Law, author and philosopher Gaston Vogel said Dieschburg was very important painter for Luxembourg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JangdeBlannen (talk • contribs) 17:46, 18 January 2024 (UTC) — JangdeBlannen (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Reply[reply]

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Ju Ju Wilson

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A gnews search yields 1 hit. Australian search engine trove comes up mainly with small 1 line mentions. Does not meet WP:ARTIST. Hardly any articles link to this. LibStar (talk) 23:31, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Comment - LibStar, I think there is a possibility that this Indigenous Australian elder artist is notable. She is in the collection of the National Gallery of Australia (added that info + citation to the article.) We need more than one notable collection to pass NARTIST, but I'm also finding a few hits on her work as a director. Not ready to !vote yet without deeper inquiry. Netherzone (talk) 02:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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