(Posted) RD: Joan Micklin Silver

Nominator's comments: Needs a good amount of work. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:23, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. In good shape now. Innisfree987 (talk) 05:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Article is ready for MP. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:33, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 08:40, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: Dick Thornburgh

(Posted) RD: Jolanta Fedak

Nominator's comments: Polish member of parliament; article updated and sourced MurielMary (talk) 21:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – article is concise but past stub class. It is also well referenced. TJMSmith (talk) 04:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. Stubby, some possible translation infelicities. There is nothing about her career outside politics, and what she did in office when she achieved it. Also no personal life at all (spouse, children). The date of her post-grad study would be useful (at least was it immediately after her undergrad education or later). Plenty to time to expand. I can't assess the given sources, which are nearly all Polish language. Espresso Addict (talk) 07:00, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some details have been added. MurielMary (talk) 11:21, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted Stephen 00:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Stephen, Another case of starting from the top when we have discussed starting from the bottom might be the more optimal way to post. Ktin (talk) 00:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Stephen, and, fwiw -- this article was NOT ready. It clearly fails the Spencer test. The article is just a listing of political offices and elections contested. There is absolutely nothing about the Fedak's political career in terms of work done, topics and policies advanced. Ktin (talk) 00:53, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Spencer's views on how much detail is necessary in a political biography are not shared by all of us here and should not hold up posting an item that meets the RD criteria.P-K3 (talk) 14:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Pawnkingthree, water under the bridge now, but, expecting an article to have details about the work that a person did rather than just a listing of positions / elections seems reasonable to me. That said, other than that vital detail, this article is clean and meets hygiene requirements for homepage / RD. While I continue to maintain that this posting was rushed and also that was posted from the top rather than the bottom, I do not / will not make a case for removing this article from homepage. I would also want to acknowledge MurielMary and TJMSmith 's efforts in shaping the article. Onwards and upwards. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 14:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: MF Doom

Nominator's comments: British rapper, songwriter, and record producer. UncomfortablySmug (talk) 21:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – The death has also been reported by HipHopDX and XXL. According to his family and current reporting, Dumile died on 31 October; however his death was not publicly disclosed until today, 31 December. —BLZ · talk 21:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose – The article is currently very bad. Lots of uncited claims. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 21:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Need lots of citation work - uncited claims and citations to unreliable sources - and reads like a prose-ified discography atm. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 22:10, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  It's gotten substantially better, but there's still a ways to go, I think. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 02:51, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Support. I've cleared out the last of the ((cn)) tags, and I think it's ready to go. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:21, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Comment – I know I'm at risk of being "that guy" by saying this, but this isn't a recent death, and that fact won't change no matter how good the article gets. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 22:29, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  AllegedlyHuman, in the recent death procedure page, it says "Any items older than 7 days from the date of death (or occasionally the date of announcement) are not eligble for posting." This is one of the occasions where the bolded clause is relavent. --Rockin (Talk) 22:44, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  RockinJack18, thanks for pointing me to that. I still agree with others that the page could use some work, but it's definitely gotten closer to main page quality. Sad news to hear. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 22:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – An important figure in hip-hop, article seems to have be of acceptable quality. –DMartin 06:57, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - He was a fairly major name in hip-hop. Article can definitely be improved though. Basil the Bat Lord (talk) 08:24, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support – One of the most important experimental hip hop artists ever.--Catlemur (talk) 09:01, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak oppose - a handful of citations needed before this goes onto the main page. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:04, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Support good to go, nice work on the updates. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:58, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – No cn tags currently on the page. Article is of satisfactory quality. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 18:07, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 21:14, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Narendra Kumar (mountaineer)

Nominator's comments: Indian mountaineer. Article requires some work on sourcing, but, doable in case someone can get to it before me. Else, I will get to it sometime this afternoon. Comprehensive rewrite of the article completed. Took a little longer due to my off-wiki commitments. But, the article is well sourced and is ready to go. Ktin (talk) 18:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose in the current state, problems with neutrality (eg in the lead) and tone as well as sourcing. Espresso Addict (talk) 06:52, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Espresso Addict, No one has worked on the article yet. I was to work on it. Managed some sourcing before having to attend to off-wiki stuff for most of the day. Too late now for the day, so, maybe tomorrow. If you have some time and want to attack the sourcing and / or the tone go for it. Both need to be addressed. Ktin (talk) 06:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you are expert on Indian issues, it would probably be best if you work at it first. I've hacked a bit out of the lead on neutrality grounds. Probably wise to run it through Earwig before working on it, chunks probably originated elsewhere. Espresso Addict (talk) 07:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Espresso Addict, Ktin Yeah, Earwig does not look good at all. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's looking better now, but there are still multiple small copied phrases. I've purged those from two sources but they're still coming up from other places. Not looked at this in detail otherwise, but just to start with the list of awards in the lead could do with pruning to the most prestigious and the tone is still a bit too laudatory. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Espresso Addict, please tone down the snark re: the text in the parenthesis. Ktin (talk) 02:55, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There was no intentional snark, sorry. I've removed the irrelevant aside. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Espresso Addict, I have removed three awards from the lede, though I think that was not necessary. The latest Copvio report is here. I do not see any more reasons to hold this article back. Ktin (talk) 03:02, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As I said above, there is still copying from sources. Walking away from this. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:08, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Comprehensive rewrite of the article completed. Here's the Copyvio report link. Article is well sourced and good to go. RIP. Ktin (talk) 21:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Great job as per usual, Ktin. Any admins patrolling ITNRD: probably worth some revdels, if they're not too complicated? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 23:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Please can I get an additional pair of eyes on this one? The latest Copyvio report can be accessed here. There are two direct quotes that are hits, as expected, but, with the rewrites done, this should be good to go to the homepage. Ktin (talk) 03:16, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Ktin, if it helps, I think for instance it’s things like this where the phrasing about absolving responsibility had been a quotation and then was lifted into the article without quotes. It’s a drag when that happens, tedious to locate and remove once already well into editing process. (I will go fix this one, it’s just as a for-instance. I did not look at the rest, Earwig kept timing out on me.) Innisfree987 (talk) 03:34, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  You beat me to it :) Innisfree987 (talk) 03:38, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Innisfree987, Thanks :) The latest Copyvio report is here Ktin (talk) 03:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  I’m unfortunately still wrestling with Earwig due to connectivity issues—could another editor lend us a hand? Thanks all. Innisfree987 (talk) 04:33, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I am working on this article. DTM (talk) 08:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Espresso Addict, Ktin, AleatoryPonderings, Innisfree987: I request everyone to reconsider this nomination following the changes I have made. Please see if the article is now suitable for RD. I know more can be done, but do let me know if you spot any glaring issues. DTM (talk) 17:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Looks fine from a copyvio perspective: highest hit in Earwig is 13.8%. I've lost track of all the various versions, but perhaps revdelling before 17:32, 1 January 2021 (which is apparently when I ran the problematic Earwig report) would be wise. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:18, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  AleatoryPonderings, whatever earwigs is catching now isn't a problem as you also point out. Previous copyvios are have been sorted. I have not introduced any intentional close paraphrasing. DTM (talk) 13:45, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Nicely done DiplomatTesterMan in expanding the article and categorizing it as well. I toned down the language and made a few minor copyedits, otherwise it looks good. Latest link to CopyVio report is here. Just for the record, this article was ready as of this revision with the corresponding CopyVio report here. This article should not have had to wait an extra day. But, anyways here we are, and the article expansion is definitely a positive. Nicely done. Ktin (talk) 20:30, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Ktin, so all that is left to do is wait, right? DTM (talk) 13:46, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I have Earwig back online (ish) so I’m going through and will check back when finished, hopefully not too long. Innisfree987 (talk) 20:06, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Okay I’ve been through all the Earwig pings (two searches, one of cited sources and one of web broadly), removed three small phrases, and now I find only the kind of matching titles and other proper nouns you would expect. Looks ready to me. Innisfree987 (talk) 20:29, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 09:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  @Stephen, Dumelow, Black Kite, MSGJ, and Amakuru: - Admins, please consider restoring this article on the RD carousel and temporarily going to a count of 7. This article spent less than 10 hours on homepage / RD and has just fallen off the carousel. Greatly appreciate your consideration. Ktin (talk) 20:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

   Done. No guarantee on how long he will stay there though — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:36, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  MSGJ, Thanks much for trying Martin. Much appreciated. The article stayed on for 2 more minutes before being reverted. Please pardon my emotions seeping through the text. I worked ~5-6 hours between new years' eve and new year day, taking time away from family, to get this article to the state that it could be posted to homepage. I am sure other editors here including DiplomatTesterMan invested a good amount of time in working this article. That the article spent less than ~10 hours on the RD carousel is demotivating. Thanks again for attempting to restore. Much appreciated. Ktin (talk) 22:09, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  If I interpret Stephen's revert summary correctly then there were several other entries which had more reason to be re-added, i.e. other entries that spent even less time on the main page. Is that correct? How many entries would we have needed in this case to give everything 24 hours exposure? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:46, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  There's been 4 more RDs posted since (and it's been 23h), so the list would hypothetically be at 11.—Bagumba (talk) 08:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Ktin: It's frustrating when one sees "their" nomination get less time than they think it deserves. On the positive side, this same nomination would likely have already been stale with the previous sorted post model. In the new model, this still qualified and was posted, albeit less time than you might think is fair. The issue is that there is no consensus yet on the minimum post time, or if there should even be a minimum at all. In the meantime, each poster is applying their individual best judgement, which also varies. —Bagumba (talk) 09:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Tommy Docherty

Nominator's comments: Former Manchester United manager, aged 92, sources need some work which I will get to later JW 1961 Talk 16:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Once more sources are cited, support. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 17:14, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  TuckerTVG, I think, with the help of a few others, that the article is well sourced now JW 1961 Talk 18:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Joseywales1961 Yup, article looks good now! Support. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 18:47, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Quite a few uncited statements, especially in the "Later career" section. Black Kite (talk) 20:03, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Black Kite, Can you re-visit at some stage please, "Later career" tidied up with sources and some content removed, thanks. JW 1961 Talk 21:57, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Black Kite (talk) 01:39, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:07, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:14, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UNAMID

Nominator's comments: UNAMID, begun in 2007, was one of the largest and most controversial UN peacekeeping missions. Its mandate expires on 31 December, beginning a six-month drawdown period. In common with much of our UN coverage, the article is unfortunately not in a good state and needs quite a bit of TLC. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• With the state the article is in, probably not ready to post. Also, just the mission ending (with the transition period) probably does not make a good ITN story. I'd support if there is any further development, such as mission renewal or restructuring. --Tone 11:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose – Based on an arbitrary date. If there were to be notable consequences, reconsideration might be advisable. – Sca (talk) 13:20, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Sca. Old mandate expires, with no notable consequences as of now. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 18:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The mandate expires, so UNAMID itself expires? That is a notable consequence. It will explicitly not be replaced, and its activities are now restricted to securing its own withdrawal. Please actually read the links before voting. —Brigade Piron (talk) 21:36, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support It's the end of a notable UN mission, who cares if the end date is arbitrary. The notable consequences are that the mission is ending. What more do you want? Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 04:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - insufficient reader interest, article has not been updated. Levivich ^harass/_hound 19:08, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Roy B.B. Janis

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 06:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose needs work on the prose and referencing. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Support vastly improved. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Yep, this one needs a lot of work. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 16:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment @The Rambling Man and TuckerTVG: How about now? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 16:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment @Jeromi Mikhael: Looks good now. Great work! Support. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 16:36, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:10, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Muladi

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 06:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose awards section unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  @The Rambling Man:  Done and translated the names of the award to English.Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 16:21, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:11, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Checks the boxes. Albertaont (talk) 00:25, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: Alto Reed

(Closed) RD: Samuel Little

(Posted) RD: Aldo Andretti

Nominator's comments: The other half of the patriarchs of the famous Andretti open-wheel and NASCAR racing dynasty alongside his twin brother Mario. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:18, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:14, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 00:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ronald Atkins

Nominator's comments: British politician, former Member of Parliament (1966–1970, 1974–1979), dies at age 104. Longest-lived former MP. Davey2116 (talk) 19:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose couple of citations needed there. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:17, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted, now cited Stephen 19:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: Indira Joseph Venniyoor

(Posted) RD: Dawn Wells

Nominator's comments: Best known as Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island. Sourcing problems in article. Masem (t) 19:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak support Figure is notable, but needs a lot of referencing. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 21:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Career & Filmography needs some more sourcing, will change to support when they are fixed JW 1961 Talk 21:24, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Lots of unsourced text in the body too. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:49, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Question: Other than the filmography (presumably), what are the other parts of this article that people think need citations? I don't see any cn tags there right now. KConWiki (talk) 01:59, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remaining CN's have been resolved - thanks Ktin for marking. Can someone check this? Joofjoof (talk) 19:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 19:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2020 Aden airport attack

Nominator's comments: Developing. Sherenk1 (talk) 15:03, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose For now, article is a tiny stub with little to no information on the attacks themselves. Support If article is cleaned up, already 16 deaths and it's only been about an hour or two. Gex4pls (talk) 15:46, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose on length and quality but support on importance. Last I saw, deaths were up to 22. --Masem (t) 17:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article is in sufficient shape for posting. --Masem (t) 05:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait – Pending details, expansion of article. Guardian puts toll at 26, Reuters says 50 wounded. – Sca (talk) 19:18, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait per Sca. We need more details about the event. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 20:21, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Obvious support At least 20 dead and growing... There's some hope the Saudi ambassador was killed as well. CoronaOneLove (talk) 21:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's some hope the Saudi ambassador was killed? "Hope"? Seriously? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:14, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support altblurb now that article has been improved. Levivich ^harass/_hound 04:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support -- this is notable and the article has been improved to the point that it is worthy of being in ITN. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 05:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support obviously notable, have heard this at a midnight broadcast on my local television channel in Indonesia. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 07:29, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 08:10, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Post-posting comment. I've reduced the injuries count to >50 as latest BBC this morning states that. The AP source used for 110 is dated yesterday. I think it's better to be conservative here. Espresso Addict (talk) 08:24, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Abortion in Argentina

(Posted) RD: Agitu Ideo Gudeta

Nominator's comments: Ethiopian refugee farmer who was killed in Italy on December 29. TJMSmith (talk) 17:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. The article is well-referenced and covers the scope of her life in due weight (IMO). Innisfree987 (talk) 05:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:20, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• @Stephen, Bagumba, Black Kite, Dumelow, MSGJ, and Amakuru:, pardon the intrusion, this article was on the homepage for ~13 hours. Ktin (talk) 01:16, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• @Espresso Addict: who seems to be online right now. This article should be restored on the carousel in good faith. 13 hours. Ktin (talk) 01:16, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored this to the 7th item for now. What would be nice is some automated tracking of how long each RD is up for to get an idea of what the new expected dwell time is; 24 hours might not be achievable. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: John Paul Jr.

Nominator's comments: Death from Huntington's Disease of 1980s-1990s Indianapolis 500, IndyCar Series, 24 Hours of Le Mans and 24 Hours of Daytona driver with two IndyCar wins and two 24 Hours of Daytona wins, in addition to being notorious for his involvement in the 1980s drug trade. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:12, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak support There's one citation needed tag but it should not hold up the article. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done @Hanif Al Husaini: - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. Not checked in detail but the first paragraph of the Away from the track section may need better sourcing. The prose style is also very choppy with short paragraphs, a timeline feel and some informal writing. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:14, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done @Espresso Addict: While both Car and Driver and (especially) Sports Illustrated are reputable sources I've added a few extra sources including a Chicago Tribune article. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose I find it hard to believe that a satisfactory search for a free image for such a prominent individual has been conducted, so cannot support while the "fair use" image is in place. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @The Rambling Man: @Amakuru: I'm not sure what you would consider a "satisfactory search", but my searching has only turned up "all rights reserved" i.e. fully copyrighted photos. Regardless, I have removed the photo from the article. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:26, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Support now good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per TRM. Fair use pictures should not be used on so recent a death, when there's every prospect that someone has a free photo of him.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted now the NFC issue is resolved. Black Kite (talk) 20:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Lorraine Monk

Nominator's comments: Canadian photographer and contemporary history chronogropher. Death announced on this date. Article requires good amount of work. Will get to it this evening. Done and done! Happy with the way the article has shaped up. For someone who led all those photography initiatives, it is a bit of a sad note that we do not have a photo of hers. RIP Ms. Monk. I am calling it a day, but, do not foresee major edits on this article. Good to go imo. Article now has images added. Looks beautiful. Great partnership AleatoryPonderings and Masem. Thanks folks. Ktin (talk) 22:36, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - referenced and updated. MurielMary (talk) 03:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Coin (talk) 05:39, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support article in good nick. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:08, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Posted—Bagumba (talk) 10:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Elaine McCoy

Nominator's comments: C class article on Canadian Senator; updated and fully referenced MurielMary (talk) 11:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose missing refs, no prose mention of her death, bare URLs. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:04, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment death is now mentioned, and I note from the guidelines on article quality for RD that "one or two "citation needed" tags may not hold up an article" therefore the missing refs shouldn't prevent this nomination from being posted. MurielMary (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. There's one remaining ((cn)) which I can't quite verify, but it's by no means critical to the article and can just be cut if others can't verify. Otherwise ready IMO. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 20:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong support Looks much better than most RDs recently. Article is incredibly sourced and written. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 21:17, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, the article is well sourced. Alexcalamaro (talk) 21:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 01:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Howard J. Rubenstein

Nominator's comments: American PR mogul - Dumelow (talk) 08:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak support for such an influencer, not a lot in there, but probably adequate for RD. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:02, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Coin (talk) 05:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Posted—Bagumba (talk) 10:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Luke Letlow

Nominator's comments: U.S. congressman-elect from Louisiana's fifth congressional district. UncomfortablySmug (talk) 02:47, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Well-sourced short article. One of the higher-profile COVID-19 deaths of the year. BD2412 T 03:20, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support a bit short but fully sourced; still some editing being done but it's good enough now. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:36, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - Seems good to go. Fully sourced. High profiled Covid-19 death.BabbaQ (talk) 03:46, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Posted—Bagumba (talk) 05:29, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Josefina Echánove

Nominator's comments: Mexican television and film actress MurielMary (talk) 00:48, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Short, but extremely well-referenced. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:11, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose several films and television appearances unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:41, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment all film and television appearances in the article are now referenced. MurielMary (talk) 09:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Article will need to be expanded before it can be ready for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 11:32, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you clarify which part of the guideline on the quality of RD articles you consider has not been met, with regards to the guidelines here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news#Article_quality ? TIA MurielMary (talk) 11:34, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MurielMary, other than the filmography (set of bullets) this article is currently a stub. We have not promoted articles of a stubby nature to homepage / RD in the past. Ktin (talk) 11:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. It is under 1500 characters of prose per the DYK counter. I'd expect more on a selection of her notable film roles from reviews or similar. There isn't even a comment on her two award nominations, beyond the fact of the nominations, and those films are not listed in the filmography. Not an expert in fair-use custom here (it's a lot stricter than the UK norms), but we've often held off putting such images into articles until a few months after death, to allow a full search to be made for free images. @The Rambling Man: for an expert opinion. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Well yes, it seems unlikely that in the time between her death and the upload of the image that a satisfactory amount of searching and requesting for a free image has been conducted. I would oppose all the while that non-free image is there. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:18, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Amelia Lapeña-Bonifacio

Nominator's comments: Filipino playwright, puppeteer, and educator. Article needs some work. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 16:51, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - Have given the article a thorough overhaul and I think it's now ready for the main page. MurielMary (talk) 04:01, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose citations needed. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - all statements now referenced. MurielMary (talk) 10:10, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support It's good enough for the main page. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 21:19, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - looks like citation issues have been resolved. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:55, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 01:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2020 Petrinja earthquake

 Sherenk1 (talk) 13:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• For the reference, we posted the one in Zagreb in March. This one was stronger but away from Zagreb or other big cities, so the damage will likely be smaller overall. The town of Petrijna was hit hard, though. The article still needs some expansion. --Tone 14:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait – Pending details. – Sca (talk) 15:30, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support in principle. The strongest quake was reportedly even stronger than the one that hit Zagreb in 1880, which would probably make it the strongest in the country's history on record. There's a rising death toll and many buildings were damaged in the nearby cities, including Zagreb where power outages and other problems have occurred as a consequence.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:56, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment – AP, BBC, Reuters update toll to seven – dozens missing. – Sca (talk) 22:41, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support The death toll is definitely higher than the one in Zagreb, it's receiving a lot of coverage in various news outlets and the article seems referenced as well. Scaramouche33 (talk) 06:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Prominent coverage in UK news, article now appears of adequate quality. Espresso Addict (talk) 07:02, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posting. --Tone 08:21, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Pierre Cardin

(Posted) RD: H. Jack Geiger

Nominator's comments: Doctor who pioneered social medicine; cofounded two physicians’ groups that won Nobel Peace Prizes. Innisfree987 (talk) 04:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• @Innisfree987: have you got a RS for the date of death? It says Dec 18 in the body (which would make this nomination stale) but in the lead Dec 28. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:17, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  The NYTimes article affirms the 28th. --Masem (t) 16:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks Masem, I see that now.  Posted. Fantastic work with this one Innisfree987! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:22, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Oh, thank you very much Martin! And thank you Masem for the date check. Much appreciated! Innisfree987 (talk) 16:32, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Adele Rose

Nominator's comments: Longest-serving scriptwriter for Coronation Street - MurielMary (talk) 12:40, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose It's well referenced but very stubby, could support if expanded a wee bit JW 1961 Talk 14:54, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment has been expanded as more obituaries published in the last few hours. MurielMary (talk) 19:07, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Changing to Support as sufficiently expanded for RD JW 1961 Talk 21:41, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Currently trying to expand, there's another reliable obituary in The Guardian just out. (There's more detail in Manchester Evening News, but I'm not sure how reliable that is after it split from the Guardian group.) Her other two series might well be notable despite the lack of articles. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @Espresso Addict:, An article that was marked 'ready' before this article is still pending a posting. Ktin (talk) 02:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: I was working from the bottom, per recent exhortations as well as past practice. This was marked ready before I commented; I don't track the order of marking as ready, there are better uses of time. I never post anything without reading it carefully and at least spot-checking the sources, which often results in substantive editing and a lot of nitpicking and back & forth. Black Kite posted several while I was working on this one; I don't know why they didn't post yours. Which is it? Espresso Addict (talk) 02:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Espresso Addict:, Indira Joseph Venniyoor. Black Kite posted the one before this and the one after this. Ktin (talk) 02:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Romell Broom

Nominator's comments: American murderer on death row. There's a couple of dead links that could do with replacing and perhaps some more detail would be beneficial - Dumelow (talk) 08:36, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Reluctant support don't keen on the idea of promoting these individuals but RDs are RDs. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:49, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I always find it interesting when looking over the RD page that the average article on a criminal tends to be so much better than that of artists, politicians, businesspeople. Articles on sports people tend to be either one-line sub-stubs or mammoth unsourced musings - Dumelow (talk) 11:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I must admit, I'm sad that Barbara Rose, a life full of interest and achievement, is likely to be dropped off for this. Espresso Addict (talk) 12:05, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Probably because criminals are a more sensitive subject, so uncited content gets removed quickly. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 12:08, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Short but well referenced article JW 1961 Talk 14:50, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Paul-Heinz Dittrich

Nominator's comments: Influential German composer, trained in the East, but not ready to compromise, so earlier performed in the West, studies at IRCAM in Paris, teacher in the U.S., Israel, South Korea. - The article was there, but practically without inline citations. Created this year, better than only after he died. Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:07, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Good enough for RD. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support satis. Good to go. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:50, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Posted - Dumelow (talk) 11:47, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dumelow, Thanks. We could have let the carousel go to 7 for a bit here. Ktin (talk) 11:50, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ktin, the displaced RD K. C. Jones had been up for 23 hours which I consider sufficient to not break the guideline. I appreciate people's opinions on this vary and am more than happy if another admin wants to re-add Jones - Dumelow (talk) 12:09, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dumelow, fair enough. I guess I have been greedily hoping for 36 hours (or at least 24 hours). Anyways, onwards and upwards. Thanks for your note and for all that you do. Ktin (talk) 12:12, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Fou Ts'ong

Nominator's comments: Internationally renowned Chinese-born pianist; died of COVID-19 today in London. I did some work on the article, and it should be ready to go. Zingarese talk · contribs 04:57, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Just a very quick note, one of the refs is currently showing as undefined. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:17, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On further reading, I agree with AleatoryPonderings that the tone is too promotional. Espresso Addict (talk) 06:52, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Short but to the point. Espresso Addict (talk) 06:01, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Rather a promotional tone at present. Hopefully someone can neutralise it a bit. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 05:19, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  @AleatoryPonderings: Care to elaborate? I think this article presents the information in RS in a very neutral way.Zingarese talk · contribs 05:48, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  I find sentences like Noted by The New York Times for his "sensitive ear for color", "elusive gift of melody", and his "impetuous spirit", Fou was one of the first Chinese-born pianists to achieve international fame and A performing and teaching career that took him throughout the world continued, and he was acclaimed not only for his interpretations of Chopin, but many other composers, including Haydn, Mozart concerning. The NYT bit in particular strikes me as undue, and reads rather like album liner notes. There is also the (currently error-flagged) quote, apparently from a primary source, describing him as one of the greatest pianists of our times. In my view, that would have to be backed up by a secondary source to be of appropriate weight. (It is also not especially informative; what makes one a "great" pianist, in context?) I would also like to know what persecuted means in the personal life section, but that's obviously not a promo issue. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  couldnt disagree more with you.It wasn’t just some random people who said these things; they were music critics from the world’s biggest newspapers. Look at the GA Radu Lupu for example. Also the quote from Argerich, Fleisher, and Lupu is just their opinion and their declaration. But since they are among the most important musicians of their generation, it’s a very notable thing to include. Also,if you look into it, Fou’s parents faced political persecution by the CCP during the Cultural Revolution , leading them to die by suicide. Zingarese talk · contribs 06:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @AleatoryPonderings: @Espresso Addict: I've attempted to alleviate your concerns; please let me know if this suffices. I still disagree with the view that this article's tone was promotional to begin with, but I will happily compromise, especially if it means not killing this article's chances of being featured in RD. Zingarese talk · contribs 22:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  My promo concerns have been addressed. Sourcing looks good too, although I don't read Polish and so am unable to evaluate some sources. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 23:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC has deigned to notice his passing now, though the Guardian is still silent, so I'll have a look and see if I can improve further. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:50, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @AleatoryPonderings: as far as I can see, there are only three Polish-language sources in the article - and they all serve to verify his death from the coronavirus. Zingarese talk · contribs 01:53, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  I wasn't suggesting they were suspect; I was just noting I was unable to evaluate them myself. Certainly did not mean to imply otherwise. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 01:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. Zingarese, Espresso Addict, and I have been over this with a fine-toothed comb in the past few hours and I think it's ready to go. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 05:19, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Dear @AleatoryPonderings: and @Espresso Addict:, thank you so much for your help with this article. I appreciate it so much! Zingarese talk · contribs 06:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted despite being a supporter, as no-one objected. Espresso Addict (talk) 09:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Martin Lambie-Nairn

Nominator's comments: Noted graphic designer. Died on Christmas day but only announced today. yorkshiresky (talk) 15:42, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak oppose a few unreferenced claims. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 18:14, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Support satis. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Looks like the claims have been referenced now. yorkshiresky (talk) 09:45, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Stale) RD: Armando Manzanero

(Stale) RD: Mahinder Watsa

(Posted) RD: Yuichiro Hata

Nominator's comments: COVID-19-related death of a Japanese representative and former MLIT Minister.  ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:49, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 12:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Robin Jackman

Nominator's comments: Indian-born English and South-African cricketer. Much loved for his commentary. Article was in a very good condition. Needs sourcing across the board, which I will work on in the next couple of hours. Sourcing is complete. Did not have to do any content edits. If someone wants any other edits incorporated, please let me know. RIP. Thanks for all the memories. Ktin

• Support much improved. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 09:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support decently referenced article, suitable for RD JW 1961 Talk 12:56, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 13:46, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Phil Niekro

 – Muboshgu (talk) 17:53, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support sourcing looks good thanks to Muboshgu's efforts. The fourteen navboxes at the bottom are silly, but not a reason to oppose this. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support A bit wacky his photo has him as a Yankee, but (unfortunately) that's not a barrier for posting. Nohomersryan (talk) 21:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Nohomersryan, don't hate on the best franchise in sports. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support adequate for ITN. Good to go! The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:42, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Posted—Bagumba (talk) 01:09, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Brodie Lee

Nominator's comments: Professional wrestler (real name Jon Huber) with two of the biggest promotions in the United States. GaryColemanFan (talk) 01:57, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - One cn tag, but very good article. I'm ready to change it to support as soon as this small issue is resolved.--SirEdimon ^Dimmi!!! 03:07, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I believe I've dealt with these. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:17, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Too damn young to burn up, but too damn good to fade away. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:40, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]